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Fucking bombed my interview with the chaplain today | |
| Sp4c3m4n Offer Upgrade  User ID: 79588476  United States10/13/2021 02:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Whiskey*Tango User ID: 80491821 United States10/13/2021 02:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. In the fight on the airline side. I am starting to think none of this matters anyway. Unless Joe Biden is removed from office, he will continue to work at getting us all penetrated against our will. He will come for our children next. We have no choice but to fight, religious exemptions are just pacifiers at this point. Hold the line. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80098568 United States10/13/2021 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) you said too much for it to be a religious reason. 2) you said it wrong. If you truly believe you're exempt for a religious reason, I'd define that to a simplified single definition. Here's some help- "I was made in the perfect image of God....." Figure out the rest |
| roguetechie81 User ID: 79785318 United States10/13/2021 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. They're not going to give you a waiver. Now if you decide to say fuck it and stand on principal people at large will try to help you but times are about to get real hard for everyone. There's no avoiding that. My personal feeling, as long as you're still on the side of freedom and the Constitution however you choose to navigate this decision is entirely up to you. No one sane will think less of you no matter which path you take. I want to tell you to stand with the refusers but the stand hasn't quite solidified yet and there's nothing saying that because you took the shot you can't still stand with the refusers when the time comes. I don't envy the decision you have to make... Whatever you decide, make sure you can live with that decision and if possible even be proud of it. roguetechie |
| Depluribus Unum User ID: 80132745 United States10/13/2021 02:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. That's why it's important to not claim a specific religion. If you do, you're subject to the views of the leadership. Religion is a personal belief system, not subject to the consent of some human authority. Human organizations always succumb to corruption at some level. I have a higher loyalty than any institution of man, so I will never claim allegiance to a specific religion. I will never take the vaccine because it's against my beliefs. If I have to choose between my beliefs and a job, that's an easy decision. They will call what they think is my bluff, and I will have to suffer the consequences. I accept that. Last Edited by Depluribus Unum on 10/13/2021 02:54 PM From many, covfefe |
| roguetechie81 User ID: 79785318 United States10/13/2021 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. In the fight on the airline side. I am starting to think none of this matters anyway. Unless Joe Biden is removed from office, he will continue to work at getting us all penetrated against our will. He will come for our children next. We have no choice but to fight, religious exemptions are just pacifiers at this point. Hold the line. You're right. This isn't going to stop until we make it stop. It's been that way from day one. If we don't hold this line we'll be fighting a losing battle to hold the next line or the line after that one. This is the end game where any semblance of the old United States and the old American way of life WILL live or die in the next 4 years. The one thing I've been trying to point out to people is that we really do need to resist WHILE WE STILL CAN. Fighting against tyranny does you no good if people are too broke desperate hungry and etc to win the fight. There's a real danger that we could wait too long and the window of opportunity where we have a chance to succeed could pass before people are willing to fight. If that happens the United States as we know it will die or at least go into hibernation for potentially generations. roguetechie |
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| roguetechie81 User ID: 79785318 United States10/13/2021 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. That's why it's important to not claim a specific religion. If you do, you're subject to the views of the leadership. Religion is a personal belief system, not subject to the consent of some human authority. Human organizations always succumb to corruption at some level. I have a higher loyalty than any institution of man, so I will never claim allegiance to a specific religion. I will never take the vaccine because it's against my beliefs. If I have to choose between my beliefs and a job, that's an easy decision. They will call what they think is my bluff, and I will have to suffer the consequences. I accept that. Yes, at the end of the day people who are refusing because they think this has a spiritual component are either going to have to trust their god to give them a new path or give in. Those are the only two options in the end roguetechie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80899202 United States10/13/2021 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. Get a medical waiver and beat them at their own game. They are the ones deeming you a medical risk. Not you. They acknowledge you have a medical reason for discharge. Therefore if they let you go, it should be honorable or they need to leave medicine out of it. :idk: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80899202 United States10/13/2021 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. That's why it's important to not claim a specific religion. If you do, you're subject to the views of the leadership. Religion is a personal belief system, not subject to the consent of some human authority. Human organizations always succumb to corruption at some level. I have a higher loyalty than any institution of man, so I will never claim allegiance to a specific religion. I will never take the vaccine because it's against my beliefs. If I have to choose between my beliefs and a job, that's an easy decision. They will call what they think is my bluff, and I will have to suffer the consequences. I accept that. Creed is a better definition to use over religion. A creed is any belief even non religious and is equally protective of both. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80249769 United States10/13/2021 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Graboid_Hunter User ID: 80837100 United States10/13/2021 03:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n Sorry to hear that OP. Yes, I have been mentioning to people seeking a religious exemption that they mention NOTHING that could be taken as political or social or even scientific in their application for the religious exemption. You can say the great god Dawannajab came to you in a dream and promised you great blessings if you worship him and btw don't take the vaccine or you will be unclean in Dawannajab's sight... and that would be a religious reason. If you mention that reasoning, but add in "... and I don't trust that runt Fauci" then you give them a reason to deny citing political bias or questioning the authorities. If you give them any loophole at all they will take it and hang you with it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78225076 United States10/13/2021 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80249769 United States10/13/2021 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not very honest trying to hack the churches for your political views, my man. You ain't scoring points with the big guy, that way! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68174248 Fork que. God’s door is open to all, not just those who donate. When a priest tells a person god does not accept them, that priest should go talk to god personally about that. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80999834 United States10/13/2021 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Pilgrim001 User ID: 78018011 United States10/13/2021 04:34 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have to have a "good" reason other than I don't want it. period. I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you. Slake Blake |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78393032 United States10/13/2021 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come. He will glorify Me by taking from what is Mine and disclosing it to you. Everything that belongs to the Father is Mine. That is why I said that the Spirit will take from what is Mine and disclose it to you. I have spoken these things to you in figures of speech. An hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you this way, but will tell you plainly about the Father. 26In that day you will ask in My name. I am not saying that I will ask the Father on your behalf His disciples said, “See, now You are speaking plainly and without figures of speech. Now we understand that You know all things and that You have no need for anyone to ask You. Because of this, we believe that You came from God.” |
| PapaLung User ID: 11934135 Canada10/13/2021 04:37 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. You don't need approval from your church or whatever, Do some more reading. |
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| Sp4c3m4n (OP) User ID: 80957936 United States10/14/2021 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. In the fight on the airline side. I am starting to think none of this matters anyway. Unless Joe Biden is removed from office, he will continue to work at getting us all penetrated against our will. He will come for our children next. We have no choice but to fight, religious exemptions are just pacifiers at this point. Hold the line. I see what you mean. It's just not so simple it never is. In my heart I know I need to see this through and fight it through every avenue available but I can't even tell my wife what I'm really thinking. She seems to already have it in her mind that if I get discharged over this our marriage is unsalvageable. I joined because I had zero direction, couldn't hold jobs, and to save our relationship (engaged at the time). The universe keeps finding new ways to fuck with me it seems. I get my life on track then my convictions get thoroughly challenged in short order. |
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| Sp4c3m4n (OP) User ID: 80957936 United States10/14/2021 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He recommended that my Religious Waiver be denied. Apparently my views even that this is the mark or maybe a precursor to it aren't enough despite losing sleep over all this and praying every night for a good resolution. It all came down to the fact he thinks it's political because I ran my mouth that "these people don't have our best interests at heart" and that I said it's a mechanism of control. A rather large highlight of the interview is he didn't think it was religiously based because I have no churches I regularly attend and am not part of any faith groups. That's it? Fuck. Quoting: Sp4c3m4n I'm so fucking disillusioned with this entire process and all the bureaucracy. Fuck the US military and it's leadership for forcing the decision I'm pretty sure I'm going to make when they make the final determination on all of our waivers. The chaplain did say I could pursue a "moral waiver" or something of the sort but didn't seem to think that would work either. You don't need approval from your church or whatever, Do some more reading. It's from the Air Force that I need approval. I know well what I believe to be truth and I knew what to say before I went in then the realization dawned on me that this man will make my waiver or break it most likely and I just crumbled. He asked me to basically summarize my faith and I couldn't do it. Shortly after I thought about it to myself and it can all be summarized as "Jesus Christ is Lord and he died on the cross for our sins". That's all I had to say and anxiety got the better of me. |
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