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FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// Era of Omicron!!!

 
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Studies have found that wearing N95, KN95 or KF94 masks (the thicker, origami-style ones) offers more protection, with a spring 2021 study revealing that it would take 2.5 hours for a person with Covid-19 who wasn’t wearing a mask to pass it on to someone wearing a N95 mask, compared with just 30 minutes for someone wearing a surgical mask.
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CBS news said PREZ will get these to the American ppl by end of mth. i think they mean after he gets all those test kits delivered.

even the news didn't buy what they read off the telepropter.
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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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Omicron can make you contagious before you test positive, allowing for rapid spread
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Well, that explains the logarithmic rapid spread.
 Quoting: Lago


I thought ALL versions have done that
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The previous versions you were contagious before you had symptoms.

You would test positive if you were contagious, even if not symptomatic yet.

I think they're saying Omicron becomes contagious before it can be picked up by a test.
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Sorry it got you all, glad it was mild, do keep yourselves safe, prayers there's not a next time.
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I can assure you JC and HIS Word has our backs. Would not trust anything or anyone else.

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covid update

Not a lot to report.
Mrs still has a dull headache, ltf line less again today, so defo on its way out.

Im still clear, she cant have been spreading or its far to soon, which i dont think it is.

While she only tested on the sunday, pretty sure she had it at least sat.

Thats all, lucky all quiet
 Quoting: Roughwildfly


early yet. add 5 days at least. 2+ for her to show symptons and then for u to get it n show again.

i agree it is odd, but way things sound is u get it but don't show symptoms for a cpl days. i woulda assumed u could b contagious during those days thou.

when my step dad got it in OCT, he didn't know he was sick. tested for pre-op for a test. started having symptons before test results got back, so bout 3 days. when he tried to figure the timeline back to exposure was bout a week prior. wasn't OMI thou.

u can start to breath relief bout FRI. good luck to u.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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Summary -



Ivermectin as prophylaxis. If you 'get' Omicron, support your system at every turn. The virus IS still not a plesent one, but it is going to give your body all the natural assistance to create a sterilising immunity against the lab created horror show that is spiked protein hell.


In a time of total carnage, a road badly paved but leading to safety is a better route than staying put.


What you do NOT want to do is think you can tough it out. You cannot. Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Ivermectin.

Job. Done.

If it were deadly, and if it were a threat as the wuflu is, I would never, ever lead anyone into danger. Look at how I have spent the last 2 years.

PAPR and CRBN.

Omicron is why the elites are panicked right now - their plan has been fucked in the arse by an ad hoc lab in Africa whose designers look like they have 80 years experience of HIV work between them and a few PhD to boot.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78290832


I thought Omicron was gaining entry into cells via a different route than ACE-2. If that is the case, how could IVM work, as the way IVM works is to latch on to ACE-2 so the spike can't get in. If it has found another entry point, that should render IVM useless, right?
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Omicron can make you contagious before you test positive, allowing for rapid spread
 Quoting: whitepiedtv

Well, that explains the logarithmic rapid spread.
 Quoting: Lago


I thought ALL versions have done that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81828853


The previous versions you were contagious before you had symptoms.

You would test positive if you were contagious, even if not symptomatic yet.

I think they're saying Omicron becomes contagious before it can be picked up by a test.
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i agree with your thinking kinda. but that is not how it is being portrayed to the public. u can go to work or school less u test +. but then that depends if u had a vax to some places as well. they have confused the public.

we also know the tests were flawed. sometimes ppl tested neg/ pos when they were not.

i still like the 2 week rule. if u are possable exposed u hold your breath for 2 weeks and hope u didn't get infected. 2 weeks, u can breath a sigh of relief. during those 2wks depending on how bad the exposure might have been up meds and horsey paste accordingly.
JAZZZ50

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ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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I would be curious to see the same graphic, but with the surgical mask down below the nose versus a N95 as this is what I most often encounter every day...

Damned
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


I can tell you this: I was on a plane, and there was some douchebag guy with mask under his nose...sniffling, wiping snot all over his hands...I have no idea why they let him on the plane. But anyway, I made sure to sit way the fuck away from him, up front. He was coughing up a lung for about half the flight. I had an N95 with nose piece, plus just kept my reading glasses on the whole flight. I didn't get sick. I am ASSUMING this guy was infected by his symptoms, but even if it was some other crud, i dodged it!

I was in a metal tube with shared air with this guy for like 3 hours. I credit my mask for me not getting infected!

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SC, i woulda took a bleach bath and misted my nose and mouth with bleach steam. wouldn't been the 1st time either. when i had to go to the ER, i damn near jumped in with my clothes. plus went to horsey for few days.
JAZZZ50

2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out.

ARM like u never have before.
there is 1 force of magic left to counter whatever comes.

it is time to call GHOSTBUSTERS to build this city with rock n roll. turn every radio and stereo on in this whole damn world. mayb just mayb it works again.
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I would be curious to see the same graphic, but with the surgical mask down below the nose versus a N95 as this is what I most often encounter every day...

Damned
 Quoting: R. Wordsworth


N95 is good and best to have but still not 100%.

I remember someone in one of the Covid thread here are very careful and meet outside his house with N95 to sign some document and end up still get infected.

Anyone remember who is this member? Thanks.
 Quoting: whitepiedtv


That was my wife and I
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Oops, sorry for using you and your wife as example, stay safe stay healthy, thanks.
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SC, i woulda took a bleach bath and misted my nose and mouth with bleach steam. wouldn't been the 1st time either. when i had to go to the ER, i damn near jumped in with my clothes. plus went to horsey for few days.
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I did a Neti Pot as SOON as I got home! Forgot to add that in
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My wife had long Covid and killed herself.
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Chronic exhaustion, derailed lives and no way out. This is long COVID.
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Summary -



Ivermectin as prophylaxis. If you 'get' Omicron, support your system at every turn. The virus IS still not a plesent one, but it is going to give your body all the natural assistance to create a sterilising immunity against the lab created horror show that is spiked protein hell.


In a time of total carnage, a road badly paved but leading to safety is a better route than staying put.


What you do NOT want to do is think you can tough it out. You cannot. Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Ivermectin.

Job. Done.

If it were deadly, and if it were a threat as the wuflu is, I would never, ever lead anyone into danger. Look at how I have spent the last 2 years.

PAPR and CRBN.

Omicron is why the elites are panicked right now - their plan has been fucked in the arse by an ad hoc lab in Africa whose designers look like they have 80 years experience of HIV work between them and a few PhD to boot.
 Quoting: Uncle Doom 78290832


I thought Omicron was gaining entry into cells via a different route than ACE-2. If that is the case, how could IVM work, as the way IVM works is to latch on to ACE-2 so the spike can't get in. If it has found another entry point, that should render IVM useless, right?
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No, IVM works on like 6 or even 8 different levels it's an immune modulator in its` own right. When I was deep diving into medical journals to learn more I understood for the most part how it does what it does and it made sense.

I couldn't explain it to someone else though, too much scientific verbiage for me to try and retain.

In my little world we've gone to 3 x a week of IVM since December 1. My 1 son is out and about doing the uber work thing so lots of potential exposure day in and out.

He had the nasty delta in August and got us all sick, he was positive, my other son too, I chose not to be tested but was sick as a dog.

I've had the same damn thing again about Thanksgiving and suspect it might have been either RSV from the grandkids or this latest variant as this time there was no loss of smell or taste but the feeling of no air was even worse despite 95-100 oxygen saturation all along.

2 days of sustained fever, stiff neck feeling, headache, super heavy cold symptoms, weird heart and stomach flutters this time and overwhelming fatigue. Total loss of appetite and light continuous nausea for the week it was bad.

Definitely do not want it again, whatever it was. Gonna keep swimming shark
Working on it
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Conclusion
Subjects who apparently recovered from mild to moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection show signs of subclinical multi-organ affection related to pulmonary, cardiac, thrombotic, and renal function without signs of structural brain damage, neurocognitive, or quality-of-life impairment. Respective screening may guide further patient management.


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this is what the public doesn't know. cold or flu doesn't do that. and the damage is cummulative meaning each year u get it again and it adds to the damages. never fully recover like u do with a cold.

the opportunity to educate the public was there in 2020 but they wasted it arguing over impeachment and downplaying the virus.
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I really agree with you on that. They missed out on so many chances to properly educate the public. It seems they continue to misinform and misstate everything and the whole nation is suffering for it.
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Just putting this together - I believe this is VITALLY important!

Uncle Doom,

I was AMAZED - literally amazed when I ran the spike through the PLAAC and PAPA algos for prion-genic sites.

ALL the dangerous sites had been scrubbed from the spike.

On this front, what I am still concerned about is the Nucleocapsid which - when I looked at Wuhan-1 - still had a huge prion propensity.

Do you have any thoughts on the above?

Apart from this, the change to endosomal infection from ACE2/TMPRSS2 seems to be KEY to lowering pathogenicity in the lungs, and giving the body time to react properly in the upper-respiratory (tonsils?). If HCQ is an endosomal infection inhibitor (it is, afaik) then what about a re-evaluation of HCQ?

e.g.:
I think am on to something with the Glasgow Preprint.
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The lack of cell fusion as an entry mechanism by Omicron is documented in the preprint..Page 17:
Omicron spike has switched entry route preference
See Figure 6A.

The other known mechanism of entry (endocytosis) is shown to be used much better by Omicron. (aside: This explains the lower involvement of the lungs in Omicron infections..).

BUT most importantly, the endocytosis route has blockers that can be considered for use.. "Cathepsin blockers".

This paper is older; from when Sars-COV-2 was using the TMPRSS2+Furin Cleavage Site, as well as endocytosis.
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Targeting TMPRSS2 and Cathepsin B/L together may be synergistic against SARS-CoV-2 infection
Drugs targeting Cathepsin B/L are under development.
Hydroxychloroquine is thought to act against SARS-CoV-2 via several mechanisms, including blocking the endocytic pathway.; it suppresses clathrin-mediated virus uptake and also prevents endosomal acidification, the latter required for Cathepsin B/L activity.

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After one year of COVID-19 Pandemic and Hundreds of Suggested Drugs, Will Cathepsin L Inhibitors be the Solution?


Stock up on HCQ??
How crazy would it be to find that HCQ really is a solution to this part of the puzzle?
 Quoting: S-man

 Quoting: S-man 80505408



I missed the Cathepsin part completely; you are correct! In theory it could be used as a treatment.
 Quoting: d_senti



To recap: Omicron uses 'Route 2' endocytosis, NOT so much ACE2/TMPRSS2.
This means it is likely treatable with HCQ, Cathepsin-L inhibitors and such.


I also believe that Omicron will do less organ damage, Kidney, Heart, Brain/CNS/PNS, because it prefers 'Route 2' - not ACE2/TMPRSS2 entry. and on top of everything else, that 'Route 2' gives the body a warning period via the tonsils.

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Another Covid Update

Family of four with Omicron

1 Vaccinated - scratchy throat, little tired and sore runny nostril from test.

3 Unvaccinated - Dry throat for a few mornings.

14 days since Positive test, did not disrupt anything in our lives accept paid leave.
And defiantly No long Covid symptoms for the time being.

Source 55 year old from work came back from 2 weeks of sick leave, said lied that she only had bronchitis.

Did not take any vitamins, supplements or medicine.

Back to life.
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I hope you dont. But my LC took 3 months to show an issue
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'Omicron appears, after close scrutiny in the field, to be the best, worst case offering* that could have been created and released (in such a short window of time that their team had to hand) in order to act as a firebreak that is easily spread through all forms of close contact*. I applaud the effort, as Omicron is eminently treatable at all stages, and if a public-wide usage of prophylaxis were put in place? We would see an ending to most, if not all, restrictions and deaths.'




* That the creator designed this without utilizing the ferociously malicious coding originally provided to academia and research, is to be congratulated.


** R0 of similar, if not higher, reach than classical Measels.


^^^^


Mrs Doom's email to one of the people who retain her services.



Omicron is engineered. itis a fire break.
The best that could be done in such
a short space of time whilstremaining hidden from official view.

A fire break whilst a better, sterilizing effort can be created and distributed.



Writing on the phone so not the best im afraid. Much love


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I thought you were saying that this was the sneaky variant that went straight for the CNS and was causing horrible damage?

Have you changed your mind on that, or do you have new information?
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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My wife had long Covid and killed herself.
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Most of the deaths from Lyme and ME/CFS are suicides. It's terribly difficult to live in a body that debilitated with no real solution in sight.
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

Lenonard Cohen
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More scary looking videos from China



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Maybe useful for sman

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Possible Omicron with Stroke







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Maybe useful for sman

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Thanks, but Prof. Fenton has shown that the ONS have systematically mis-classified deaths by vax-status.. so our recourse now is to look at all-cause mortality alone.

Norman found some astonishing details - like:
"we have shown a range of fundamental inconsistencies and flaws in the data. Specifically.."
• In 2021 each age group has non-Covid mortality peaks for the unvaccinated at a different time, namely the time that vaccination rollout programmes for those cohorts reach a peak.
• The peaks in the Covid mortality data for the unvaccinated are inconsistent with the actual Covid wave.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
5m20s:
"UNVAXXED SEEM TO BE DYING AFTER NOT GETTING 1ST DOSE & 1ST DOSED PEOPLE DYING AFTER NOT GETTING 2ND DOSE."
-simple explanation is simple mis-categorisation of "freshly-vaccinated" as "unvaccinated".

6m20s:
"UNVAXXED DYING OF COVID WHEN VAX ROLLS OUT"
hmm!

Report:
[link to www.researchgate.net (secure)]


Concise presentation by Prof. Fenton:
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Looks like a scene from I Am Legend


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OT:

What does one do about red karma obtained for simply enetering into a civil discussion with Cannabis Kills People?
Can it be got rid of? Requested from a mod?

I only use my karma to pin threads here when they are of real importance (like the USMC docs, or Paramedic's "infection rates among vaxxed" thread)..

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OT:

What does one do about red karma obtained for simply enetering into a civil discussion with Cannabis Kills People?
Can it be got rid of? Requested from a mod?

I only use my karma to pin threads here when they are of real importance (like the USMC docs, or Paramedic's "infection rates among vaxxed" thread)..
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What bad karma?

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UPDATE: He Is RESIGNING!
-England's Deputy Chief Medical Officer AUTHORS paper on COVID Anti-Viral.. ....crickets! Where are the Journos?!

..the study, published in Viruses.
The chemical is Thapsigargin.
[link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

but here's the kicker:

authors:
Sarah Al-Beltagi 1 , Cristian Alexandru Preda 1 , Leah V Goulding 2 , Joe James 3 , Juan Pu 4 , Paul Skinner 3 , Zhimin Jiang 4 , Belinda Lei Wang 1 , Jiayun Yang 1 , Ashley C Banyard 3 , Kenneth H Mellits 5 , Pavel Gershkovich 6 , Christopher J Hayes 7 , Jonathan Nguyen-Van-Tam 8 , Ian H Brown 3 , Jinhua Liu 4 , Kin-Chow Chang 1

That name (Van-Tam) should be familiar to anyone in the UK.
He's one of the UK Government's "TV faces" of the pandemic!
He's the England's Deputy Chief Medical Officer.

Can ANY journalist worth their salt ask Van-Tam live on air what has happened to his broad-spectrum antiviral in the fight against COVID? The paper was published in February!

Are the UK Gov able to conduct and publicise research properly whilst contracting with Pfizer, AZ, Moderna etc.?
 Quoting: S-man


Looks like Van-Tam can't tolerate the Government's B.S. line of "vax-or-nothing" any more!

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