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FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// Era of Omicron!!!

 
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Yep. We have arrived at baked.
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I thought BA.2 already exist??

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COVID-19: New Omicron sub variant discovered in Israel
The sub variant is thought to have originated in India, and has been found in Canada, Denmark, Singapore, China and Australia.

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53 cases in UK.


Covid warning: New highly transmissible Omicron sub-variant in UK – 53 cases found

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Omicron should convey immunity tho right?
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Well, dare I say it: we treat HIV/AIDS with multi-drug combination therapy.

Perhaps we should consider the same for Omicron.
Perhaps we should have considered this from the start, ya think??

EARLY TREATMENT is key to this: back to normality, and pursue the people who suppressed it to the ends of the earth.
 Quoting: S-man 65294809


Early treatment ... so just randomly throw HIV-like drugs at people in case they go the route of depleted t-cells? lol ok, sure.
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No, you missed my point completely. You throw in antivirals early on.
- That gives your body the best chance of keeping down the nflammation.
- The inflammation is what allows the virus to infect more widely; e.g. cross the BBB.
- Keep it under control whilst your immune system wipes it out.
- The combination therapies mean it will have a very VERY hard time escaping the multiple modes of action applied to it.
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RWF: Looks more like Omicron is milder to me.

And the vaccines don't work at stopping transmission or infection (they seem to help it! Whether that is immunological or promiscuity driven is another debate..).

At best, the vaccines are a theraputic to lessen symptoms - but even there it seems there is a bill to pay after 3 months, where the chance of symptomatic infection goes over and above the unvaccinated chance.
 Quoting: S-man 65294809


So mild in fact, that the national guard has been called into many states. People gotta stop using that no meaning word "mild".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13027853


It is milder.

In the uk we have falling Mechanically Ventillated beds (777 yesterday, down from 900 on 4th Jan), despite our peak of 220k cases being 10 days ago (so those would be now registering, going in to hospital and some on vents)..

Hostpital beds are being freed up at roughly the same rate of admissions now, so we will soon have falling occupancy in the general COVID wards, too.

It infects via the endocytosis route; cannot enter lung cells very well - gets stuck in the upper respiratory area.

Probably won't cause the organ failure either as it can't use the ACE2/TMPRSS2 route well.

Still, I'll be watching for now. Not going licking doorknobs just yet..
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RWF: Looks more like Omicron is milder to me.

And the vaccines don't work at stopping transmission or infection (they seem to help it! Whether that is immunological or promiscuity driven is another debate..).

At best, the vaccines are a theraputic to lessen symptoms - but even there it seems there is a bill to pay after 3 months, where the chance of symptomatic infection goes over and above the unvaccinated chance.
 Quoting: S-man 65294809


So mild in fact, that the national guard has been called into many states. People gotta stop using that no meaning word "mild".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13027853


It is milder.

In the uk we have falling Mechanically Ventillated beds (777 yesterday, down from 900 on 4th Jan), despite our peak of 220k cases being 10 days ago (so those would be now registering, going in to hospital and some on vents)..

Hostpital beds are being freed up at roughly the same rate of admissions now, so we will soon have falling occupancy in the general COVID wards, too.

It infects via the endocytosis route; cannot enter lung cells very well - gets stuck in the upper respiratory area.

Probably won't cause the organ failure either as it can't use the ACE2/TMPRSS2 route well.

Still, I'll be watching for now. Not going licking doorknobs just yet..
 Quoting: S-man 81645476


Milder as in not on mechanical technology to survive? If we didn't have this technology, what people are experiencing would not be mild at all. They would be dead. Even those who are not hospitalized are not experiencing it as mild. We need to stop creating a scale based on the most sophisticated life saving technologies out there. Mild for people at home is 103-104 fever, sever body aches, severe soar throat, fatigue, GI problems, night sweats, etc. Mild is a hangnail.
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With the tory party chucking boris to the wolves and the BBC on the push for its over.

It really is over in the eyes of the government


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With the tory party chucking boris to the wolves and the BBC on the push for its over.

It really is over in the eyes of the government


 Quoting: Roughwildfly


With Covid.

Vaccine damage !
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……
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Yes! Dropper vids from China! not seen these in a while. Its 2020 all over again!


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Anti-coronavirus measures tightened across China... [link to www.miamiherald.com (secure)]
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Yes! Dropper vids from China! not seen these in a while. Its 2020 all over again!


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burnit
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Anti-coronavirus measures tightened across China... [link to www.miamiherald.com (secure)]
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How can people just ignore that - or is there something else going on like a mental health episode?
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……
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Yes! Dropper vids from China! not seen these in a while. Its 2020 all over again!


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burnit
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Anti-coronavirus measures tightened across China... [link to www.miamiherald.com (secure)]
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How can people just ignore that - or is there something else going on like a mental health episode?
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Uh.. well

Theres a pandemic going on.

Im not touching her either
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I thought BA.2 already exist??

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COVID-19: New Omicron sub variant discovered in Israel
The sub variant is thought to have originated in India, and has been found in Canada, Denmark, Singapore, China and Australia.

 Quoting: whitepiedtv

New highly transmissible Omicron sub-variant BA.2 now also in UK: 53 cases found.. [link to www.timesnownews.com (secure)]
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Thread: I HAVE OMICRON. IVE HAD HUNDREDS OF WORSE HANGOVERS. IVERMECTIN DESTROYED IT IN 12 HOURS.

Another Common Coronavirus Cold Victim. Covid equals common cold. People have been dying from Coronavirus types for many many years.

The only thing changed was China led a worldwide propaganda campaign that would prevent their economy from tanking.

Also, satans demonically influenced minions are causing fear. They have been working overtime
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You are an idiot

There are many types of Coronaviruses

Human coronavirus is nothing like a betacoronavirus

Some like MERS would wipe out humanity
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RWF: Looks more like Omicron is milder to me.

And the vaccines don't work at stopping transmission or infection (they seem to help it! Whether that is immunological or promiscuity driven is another debate..).

At best, the vaccines are a theraputic to lessen symptoms - but even there it seems there is a bill to pay after 3 months, where the chance of symptomatic infection goes over and above the unvaccinated chance.
 Quoting: S-man 65294809


should we define mild?

it may b mild if u get it the 1st time. if u had covid and get hit with OMI, u may find your have a much worse outcome.

try this- a paper cut is mild, hurts like hell thou. but if u continue to paper cut your arm, u will bleed to death after enuf of them.
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If you're on the margin of coming into a hospital with a chronic disease, covid will tip you over. Covid might not be as a reason for admission, but without covid there would have been no need for hospitalization. Massive surge of hospitalizations. These incidental infections are not so incidental for people with chronic conditions.



Map: Covid hospitalizations double in more than a dozen states in two weeks... [link to www.nbcnews.com (secure)]

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RWF: Looks more like Omicron is milder to me.

And the vaccines don't work at stopping transmission or infection (they seem to help it! Whether that is immunological or promiscuity driven is another debate..).

At best, the vaccines are a theraputic to lessen symptoms - but even there it seems there is a bill to pay after 3 months, where the chance of symptomatic infection goes over and above the unvaccinated chance.
 Quoting: S-man 65294809


So mild in fact, that the national guard has been called into many states. People gotta stop using that no meaning word "mild".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13027853


It is milder.

In the uk we have falling Mechanically Ventillated beds (777 yesterday, down from 900 on 4th Jan), despite our peak of 220k cases being 10 days ago (so those would be now registering, going in to hospital and some on vents)..

Hostpital beds are being freed up at roughly the same rate of admissions now, so we will soon have falling occupancy in the general COVID wards, too.

It infects via the endocytosis route; cannot enter lung cells very well - gets stuck in the upper respiratory area.

Probably won't cause the organ failure either as it can't use the ACE2/TMPRSS2 route well.

Still, I'll be watching for now. Not going licking doorknobs just yet..
 Quoting: S-man 81645476


Milder as in not on mechanical technology to survive? If we didn't have this technology, what people are experiencing would not be mild at all. They would be dead. Even those who are not hospitalized are not experiencing it as mild. We need to stop creating a scale based on the most sophisticated life saving technologies out there. Mild for people at home is 103-104 fever, sever body aches, severe soar throat, fatigue, GI problems, night sweats, etc. Mild is a hangnail.
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That's falling occupancy from Delta infections.
And here, the only treatment you'll be offered is when you're half-dead.
Omicron is less pathogenic.
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These things happen all the time. It's normal.

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Thread: I HAVE OMICRON. IVE HAD HUNDREDS OF WORSE HANGOVERS. IVERMECTIN DESTROYED IT IN 12 HOURS.

Another Common Coronavirus Cold Victim. Covid equals common cold. People have been dying from Coronavirus types for many many years.

The only thing changed was China led a worldwide propaganda campaign that would prevent their economy from tanking.

Also, satans demonically influenced minions are causing fear. They have been working overtime
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You are an idiot

There are many types of Coronaviruses

Human coronavirus is nothing like a betacoronavirus

Some like MERS would wipe out humanity
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nonsense -- there are other human betacoronaviruses.
e.g.: HCoV-OC43 HCoV-HKU1
None with a Furin Cleavage Site, I'll giv you that.
I'll also give you that this one has an engineered spike, which itself is pathogenic. BUT it has mutated into Omicron and become less-so.
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These things happen all the time. It's normal.


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The disbelief in the replies is astonishing.
Under 40y much more likely to be vaccine than COVID.
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Thread: I HAVE OMICRON. IVE HAD HUNDREDS OF WORSE HANGOVERS. IVERMECTIN DESTROYED IT IN 12 HOURS.

Another Common Coronavirus Cold Victim. Covid equals common cold. People have been dying from Coronavirus types for many many years.

The only thing changed was China led a worldwide propaganda campaign that would prevent their economy from tanking.

Also, satans demonically influenced minions are causing fear. They have been working overtime
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80087769


You are an idiot

There are many types of Coronaviruses

Human coronavirus is nothing like a betacoronavirus

Some like MERS would wipe out humanity
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nonsense -- there are other human betacoronaviruses.
e.g.: HCoV-OC43 HCoV-HKU1
None with a Furin Cleavage Site, I'll giv you that.
I'll also give you that this one has an engineered spike, which itself is pathogenic. BUT it has mutated into Omicron and become less-so.
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Hey everybody

Look at the dumbass comparing SARS and MERS to a common cold

Both are Coronaviruses...so they are just common colds right?

Spanish Flu was literally JUST A FLU

No biggie huh
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Thread: I HAVE OMICRON. IVE HAD HUNDREDS OF WORSE HANGOVERS. IVERMECTIN DESTROYED IT IN 12 HOURS.

Another Common Coronavirus Cold Victim. Covid equals common cold. People have been dying from Coronavirus types for many many years.

The only thing changed was China led a worldwide propaganda campaign that would prevent their economy from tanking.

Also, satans demonically influenced minions are causing fear. They have been working overtime
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80087769


You are an idiot

There are many types of Coronaviruses

Human coronavirus is nothing like a betacoronavirus

Some like MERS would wipe out humanity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45349758

nonsense -- there are other human betacoronaviruses.
e.g.: HCoV-OC43 HCoV-HKU1
None with a Furin Cleavage Site, I'll giv you that.
I'll also give you that this one has an engineered spike, which itself is pathogenic. BUT it has mutated into Omicron and become less-so.
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Hey everybody

Look at the dumbass comparing SARS and MERS to a common cold

Both are Coronaviruses...so they are just common colds right?

Spanish Flu was literally JUST A FLU

No biggie huh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45778613


You seem to me to be a little confused.
You understand that "Human Coronavirus" as you call it, contains four genera - of which beta-coronaviruses are just one.

I said there are other human beta-coronaviruses.
Some are more host-adapted, amd mild - like HCoV-OC43.

SC2, when it was brand-new new, was lab-engineered and extremely pathogenic.
But I have watched the spike evolve into Omicron, and a lot of its tricks are now gone.

It no longer uses the ACE2/TMPRSS2 route of cell entry.
All the Intrinsically Disordered Regions are gone from the spike, lowering it's prion-genic propensity.


And, even considering Omicron's huge transmissibility advantage, the bed occupancies (as a hangover of Delta) are falling.
Remember also, we are not treating it at all - until near death.
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Bah. Omicron is a pussy

I simply killed it with oil pulling and elderberry
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I killed it with running outside for 20 minutes in my shorts in 32 Degrees °F / 0°C.

Delta might have needed 30 minutes of running, who knows? We were in lock down under a programmed presumption.
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You are an idiot

There are many types of Coronaviruses

Human coronavirus is nothing like a betacoronavirus

Some like MERS would wipe out humanity
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I am sorry you are scared of the common cold.

If you have had common colds in the past, then you could have a certain immunity.


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After 2 years and you are still trying this bullshit angle? Just a cold? Man, some people are IMPOSSIBLE to educate.
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The study by scientists from Duke-NUS Medical School, in close collaboration with the National University of Singapore (NUS) Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine, Singapore General Hospital (SGH) and National Centre for Infectious Diseases (NCID) was published in Nature. The findings suggest infection and exposure to coronaviruses induces long-lasting memory T cells, which could help in the management of the current pandemic and in vaccine development against COVID-19.

The team tested subjects who recovered from COVID-19 and found the presence of SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells in all of them, which suggests that T cells play an important role in this infection. Importantly, the team showed that patients who recovered from SARS 17 years ago after the 2003 outbreak, still possess virus-specific memory T cells and displayed cross-immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

"Our team also tested uninfected healthy individuals and found SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells in more than 50 percent of them. This could be due to cross-reactive immunity obtained from exposure to other coronaviruses, such as those causing the common cold, or presently unknown animal coronaviruses. It is important to understand if this could explain why some individuals are able to better control the infection," said Professor Antonio Bertoletti, from Duke-NUS' Emerging Infectious Diseases (EID) programme, who is the corresponding author of this study.
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Although it takes the body time to produce T cells after exposure to the coronavirus, these soldiers have better memory than antibodies, which some COVID-19 patients don’t develop.

“Once the adaptive immune system has vanquished the invader, a pool of long-lived memory T and B cells are made. These memory lymphocytes remain dormant until the next time they encounter the same pathogen,” Dr. Raj Thaker, an immunology lecturer who studies T cells and B cells at the University of Essex, wrote in the Conversation.
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Remember back in summer of 2020 when the majority thought Fauci Assistant was telling the truth

lmao

Although it takes the body time to produce T cells after exposure to the coronavirus, these soldiers have better memory than antibodies, which some COVID-19 patients don’t develop.

“Once the adaptive immune system has vanquished the invader, a pool of long-lived memory T and B cells are made. These memory lymphocytes remain dormant until the next time they encounter the same pathogen,” Dr. Raj Thaker, an immunology lecturer who studies T cells and B cells at the University of Essex, wrote in the Conversation.

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The information in these two posts are in direct contradiction with information I received just last week from the lead microbiologist assisting Dr. Fauci. Go back several pages and you'll see her comments on immunity. In case you don't want to do that, I'll summarize: Natural immunity isn't going to happen. At least, not in our lifetime.
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