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In essence? The reservoir gets eradicated at every turn.

No Gorillas. No Chimps. No cows. No pigs. No ANYTHING. Human to human and it stays inside the human's own sphere.
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Yeah this is completely wrong. Omicron can infect MORE species, not fewer, including chickens. It’s literally crossed into an entirely new class of animals, making the situation in regard to eradication that much more impossible.

You speak with such unwarranted certainty about these things.
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Also, as long as you don’t buy into the whole “the spike is a secret prion weapon” thing, then there’s no reason to think this will be any better in terms of the long term health complications outside the lungs (which do appear to fare better).

The virus ages you by like 5-10 years in terms of immune system health, and can still infect neurons, and appears to do all the same sorts of tissue damage. At best we’ve gone from 1% of people dropping dead right away to half those people dying and the other half dying a little later.

In the meantime, the virus now has the ability to replicate far faster, exploring its evolutionary space that much quicker, has more species available to infect, and has a new cell entry route. Widespread infection will likely lead to more of a “lull” afterward this time (unless we have a significant variant in that time), but antigenic drift will be strongly selected for due to wider immunity.

As for being more mild, it is somewhat, but you may not have noticed hospitalizations are at an all time high. This is the magical solution we’re given?

I really wish you’d stop with this game of pretending we’re in a spy thriller, and that you have the secret inside scoop. If you have ideas feel free to share them, but do it with a little humility and realism please.

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Uncle Doom,

I was AMAZED - literally amazed whn I ran the psike through the PLAAC and PAPA algos for prion-genic sites.

ALL the dangerous sites had been scrubbed from the spike.

On this front, what I am still concerned about is the Nucleocapsid which - when I looked at Wuhan-1 - still had a huge prion propensity.

Do you have any thoughts on the above?

Apart from this, the change to endosomal infection from ACE2/TMPRSS2 seems to be KEY to lowering pathogenicity in the lungs, and giving the body time to react properly in the upper-respiratory (tonsils?). If HCQ is an endosomal infection inhibitor (it is, afaik) then what about a re-evaluation of HCQ?

e.g.:
I think am on to something with the Glasgow Preprint.
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The lack of cell fusion as an entry mechanism by Omicron is documented in the preprint..Page 17:
Omicron spike has switched entry route preference
See Figure 6A.

The other known mechanism of entry (endocytosis) is shown to be used much better by Omicron. (aside: This explains the lower involvement of the lungs in Omicron infections..).

BUT most importantly, the endocytosis route has blockers that can be considered for use.. "Cathepsin blockers".

This paper is older; from when Sars-COV-2 was using the TMPRSS2+Furin Cleavage Site, as well as endocytosis.
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Targeting TMPRSS2 and Cathepsin B/L together may be synergistic against SARS-CoV-2 infection
Drugs targeting Cathepsin B/L are under development.
Hydroxychloroquine is thought to act against SARS-CoV-2 via several mechanisms, including blocking the endocytic pathway.; it suppresses clathrin-mediated virus uptake and also prevents endosomal acidification, the latter required for Cathepsin B/L activity.

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After one year of COVID-19 Pandemic and Hundreds of Suggested Drugs, Will Cathepsin L Inhibitors be the Solution?


Stock up on HCQ??
How crazy would it be to find that HCQ really is a solution to this part of the puzzle?
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Unfortunately, TMPRSS-2 is no longer necessary for viral entry for omicron, as it utilizes a route 2 infection. So this won’t be all that helpful.
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Just a FYI. Received an email at work yesterday stating they highly recommend another booster shot. With this they stated that the J and J would not be available to our state as the state is refusing it. This is in Pennsylvania.
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Unfortunately, TMPRSS-2 is no longer necessary for viral entry for omicron, as it utilizes a route 2 infection. So this won’t be all that helpful.
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d_senti - I am aware of the two routes - Omicron has swapped over to using endosomal 'Route2', as you call it.. which means in theory it does not affect the lung tissue (ACE2+TMPRSS2) so much. More upper respiratory infection, sure.

AFAIK, endosomal 'route 2' still uses ACE2 to grip on, but does not lyse with TMPRSS2.

Omicron also *now* more susceptible to Route2 blockers, like HCQ. Cathepsins too.
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Unfortunately, TMPRSS-2 is no longer necessary for viral entry for omicron, as it utilizes a route 2 infection. So this won’t be all that helpful.
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d_senti - I am aware of the two routes - Omicron has swapped over to using endosomal 'Route2', as you call it.. which means in theory it does not affect the lung tissue (ACE2+TMPRSS2) so much. More upper respiratory infection, sure.

AFAIK, endosomal 'route 2' still uses ACE2 to grip on, but does not lyse with TMPRSS2.

Omicron also *now* more susceptible to Route2 blockers, like HCQ. Cathepsins too.
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I missed the Cathepsin part completely; you are correct! In theory it could be used as a treatment.
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I would be curious to see the same graphic, but with the surgical mask down below the nose versus a N95 as this is what I most often encounter every day...

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