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S-man User ID: 80945710 01/13/2022 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects I guess I need to add this to the laundry list. I will do it... No long-term adverse effects from Omicron or the vaccines on the immune-systems of both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. EDIT I am really concerned by the ability of the jabbed to deal with future variants and other respiratory illness due to priming and general reduction of immunity???? Quoting: ParamedicUK I think this is point 4. And I will add ADE/ OAS Last Edited by S-man on 01/13/2022 02:43 PM |
S-man User ID: 80945710 01/13/2022 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects LAUNDRY LIST. I am hoping the following is true: 1. The population at large has at least some immune exposure/memory to the Nucleocapsid, E & M proteins as well as Spike. 2. The broader exposure (i.e. immune system has 'seen' this virus as a whole, not just the volatile spike.. will do better for future immune memory than the injections. 3. The selection pressure induced by a Spike-only approach may have gone, for now. The virus will be forced to play by Nature's rules. 4. The vaccinated have an immune response which is as good for future variants in the longer term as the unvaccinated (this needs to be true, even for unvaccinated people, to keep a 'herd' immunity situation in play). EDIT: This includes no ADE, OAS or pathogenic priming. 5. I want to see some Official results and recommendations for theraputics; in particular HCQ and Cathepsin-blockers. 6. I want to see some evidence that the virus has significantly lower propensity to infect (at least) Kidney, Heart cells. 7. I am still concerned about the Nucleocapsid which - when I looked at Wuhan-1 - had a huge prion propensity. Bigger even than the spike.. I have not yet run the Omicron version of this protein through PLAAC. (The spike now looks ok in PLAAC). Nucleocapsid: [link to www.nature.com (secure)] (see the plot on Page 3, top-left.) 8. Shedding. I will be avoiding vaccinated people for some time. EDIT: 9. No long-term adverse AIDS-like effects from Omicron or the vaccines on the immune-systems of both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Feel free to add to this. Last Edited by S-man on 01/13/2022 02:42 PM |
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Roughwildfly User ID: 67714230 01/13/2022 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects By that i mean even influenza depletes your immune system for sometime Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45660458 There is no evidence covid lingers in your cells destroying t cells https://twitter.com/_/status/1481699182654238724 I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81775844 01/13/2022 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects For the ones that think its over. Quoting: Roughwildfly The first phase migt be, but long term looks grim. And brings us back to the start, how many times did we all mention its ariboune aids. The evidence is shaking https://twitter.com/_/status/1481683717785624577 https://twitter.com/_/status/1481689949065949190 The evidence is flimsy No. It’s not. The RSV waves of spring and summer confirm the T cell issues. But whatever helps you sleep at night. |
d_senti User ID: 80631376 United States 01/13/2022 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects By that i mean even influenza depletes your immune system for sometime Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45660458 There is no evidence covid lingers in your cells destroying t cells https://twitter.com/_/status/1481699182654238724 There’s actually a lot of evidence of chronic infection for some people at this point. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be AIDS of course. But it’s not ruled out either. They’ve detected residual RNA in multiple organs and in multiple samples in multiple studies. The virus absolutely does persist at least for a time in at least some people. Now, it may simply be going dormant. Viruses do that. It doesn’t prove anything either way. Given the mutation rates we see, it seems unlikely to me that high viral replication is taking place in individuals. That doesn’t preclude low levels of replication. But the virus DOES persist in the body for many people. We don’t know how many. Maybe 1%, maybe everybody. But it’s one possible explanation for a type of long Covid. Last Edited by d_senti on 01/13/2022 03:40 PM |
S-man User ID: 76596995 United States 01/13/2022 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects UK Plot: Cases-vs-admissions 5 days later (admissions up to 9th Jan, INCLUDES OMICRON PEAK.) [link to ibb.co (secure)] Three new points added to plot. Peak at 218,724 cases (reported on 4-Jan), coresponding to 2,184 hospital admissions five days later on 9th Jan. Dashed lines were added Dec 29th. Peak was dead-centre to the prediction. Last Edited by S-man on 01/13/2022 03:42 PM |
Roughwildfly User ID: 67714230 01/13/2022 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Worth reading the whole tread. https://twitter.com/_/status/1481717108211810304 I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
Lago User ID: 81536351 United States 01/13/2022 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects TheSeeker268: "Omicron variant infections were associated with 52%, 53%, 74%, and 91% reductions in risk of any subsequent hospitalization, symptomatic hospitalization, ICU admission, and mortality, relative to Delta variant infections." Quoting: S-man [link to twitter.com (secure)] TheSeeker268: New study by US CDC finds that, as compared with the Delta variant, Omicron variant infection were "associated with substantially reduced risk of severe clinical endpoints and shorter durations of hospital stay." [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)] ITS OVER I wish. This is really sad.."Insult and injury to overwhelmed NHS staff".. [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] "We were called heroes last year'... [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Lago |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78714632 United States 01/13/2022 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects For the ones that think its over. Quoting: Roughwildfly The first phase migt be, but long term looks grim. And brings us back to the start, how many times did we all mention its ariboune aids. The evidence is shaking https://twitter.com/_/status/1481683717785624577 https://twitter.com/_/status/1481689949065949190 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81710718 Dominican Republic 01/13/2022 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects No. It’s not. The RSV waves of spring and summer confirm the T cell issues. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Flimsy is an understatement. Let me guess, the whole world is infected and everyone has issues at this point. They are all missing and having organ failure. Nobody is battling father time, nobody retired early and everyone was healthy pre 2020 CV 19. Sounds about right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81775844 01/13/2022 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects No. It’s not. The RSV waves of spring and summer confirm the T cell issues. But whatever helps you sleep at night. Flimsy is an understatement. Let me guess, the whole world is infected and everyone has issues at this point. They are all missing and having organ failure. Nobody is battling father time, nobody retired early and everyone was healthy pre 2020 CV 19. Sounds about right. You keep trying to oversimplify old problems. You can’t avoid infections any longer. |
S-man User ID: 78011624 01/13/2022 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects New UK HSA report; [link to assets.publishing.service.gov.uk (secure)] has it been a week already?!?! Page 43: case rates higher for vaccinated people in all age-groups 18 and over. COVID Deaths higher for unvaccinated. Will try to make graphs tomorrow. |
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lightning1977 User ID: 44316514 United Kingdom 01/13/2022 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Healthy debate is good. What is not under debate now is that dear leader Johnson has had the knives out for him for sometime. Today though tptb have put the knives away and pointed the antiaircraft weaponry at him. The Torygraph of all the papers has a story about more alleged misdemeanours https://twitter.com/_/status/1481741337951195136 https://twitter.com/_/status/1481756552713445380 Serious games at play |
d_senti User ID: 46495973 United States 01/13/2022 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects We all know you are eager to have that human Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80843233 If you think a virus that has killed 20 million people and will kill millions more, that causes T cell depletion, that does widespread organ and neuro damage, and that has potentially disabled 50 million more, isnt a big deal, then maybe she’s not the problem. Maybe you’re a f**king psychopath. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81775844 01/13/2022 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects Oh. I know you don’t. And that is your own problem. But I will put it out there because I did give the warnings. Quoting: CleverCreator I wash my hands. Oh, do please, tell us more, ole wise one. After two years your scare tactics have the same overly dramatic rhetoric. Please tell us again and again. Keep giving us that teenage girl mentality and respond again. You gonna get it right one of these years. But lets just use the 60 day calendar again for the 12th time. 2 more months. You can’t see it. Not my problem. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81775844 01/13/2022 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects We all know you are eager to have that human Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80843233 If you think a virus that has killed 20 million people and will kill millions more, that causes T cell depletion, that does widespread organ and neuro damage, and that has potentially disabled 50 million more, isnt a big deal, then maybe she’s not the problem. Maybe you’re a f**king psychopath. I was as scared of this virus as much as the pussy covidtards on here but I grew up and its time they did to. I am not scared. Your ignorance is selfish and pathetic. Has been for two years. I didn’t come for the conversation. And I love that you think I am lazy. That just proves my point. YOU FAILED. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78865055 United States 01/13/2022 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects We all know you are eager to have that human Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80843233 If you think a virus that has killed 20 million people and will kill millions more, that causes T cell depletion, that does widespread organ and neuro damage, and that has potentially disabled 50 million more, isnt a big deal, then maybe she’s not the problem. Maybe you’re a f**king psychopath. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13027853 United States 01/13/2022 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects For the ones that think its over. Quoting: Roughwildfly The first phase migt be, but long term looks grim. And brings us back to the start, how many times did we all mention its ariboune aids. The evidence is shaking https://twitter.com/_/status/1481683717785624577 https://twitter.com/_/status/1481689949065949190 The evidence is flimsy I tell you what AC, how about you debate AJ? I would love to see it. lol Call your account GLPFlimsy so we know it's you. I would love to watch him shred you. |
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General Thade User ID: 41996781 United States 01/13/2022 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects So the jig is finally up about the hiv with covid, nearly everybodypeople didnt pay attention to the university in india that first published the findings but now its going to go all over the internet. Ive posted this many times before but dont forget to burn your sage at home. |
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JAZZz50 User ID: 77771189 United States 01/13/2022 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects wait til they make the sex mandate. this will stir some thing up. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
JAZZz50 User ID: 77771189 United States 01/13/2022 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: FOR CORONACOASTER: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects i wanta see the college protest video. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |