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The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.

 
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The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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Scripture verses to support your 7 years, that Christians don’t go through tribulation and that it’s for the J people please.
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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Scripture verses to support your 7 years, that Christians don’t go through tribulation and that it’s for the J people please.
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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SAVED FROM WHAT????
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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that's what the word of GOD says ... thank you brother
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
We can know the season, though.
There's. A. H0le. In. The. Sky.
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We can know the season, though.
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THIS THIS THIS We know we are in the season. They are murdering people and no one seems to get it.
And now they are going to start murdering our children, all over a LIE!
We are in the season because there will be no one left the way this world is going.
Israel is a nation as if 1948, so we are a generation out, and waiting patiently. And yes, keep spreading the gospel until that last little bro or sis is found.
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HE TOLD YOU

WHAT I'M WORTH

TO HIM
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Daniel 8:23-25

King James Version

23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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Daniel 12:7

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7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.


Revelation 12:14

King James Version

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Revelation 20:4

King James Version

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

No pretrib rapture
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John 16:1-3

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16 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.

2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.

3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.

Matthew 24:9-10

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9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
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Daniel 11:33

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33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.

Daniel 12:10

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10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
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Matthew 24:15-16

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15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
NO pre-trib rapture.
Compare what Paul said to what Jesus said.

Both say coming in the clouds.

Paul says "those who are alive and remain"

Jesus says "those who endure / overcome".
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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Scripture says none of those things.
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
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Scripture says none of those things.
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The op wrote a comment that is mostly religious rhetoric. He/she sounds sincere. Using words to persuade - but it lacks content. It lacks sound doctrine.

Supposedly, the "early church fathers taught this obvious teaching" -- wait. Proving that - can only be done by weaving together different verses to make it say what you want.
THAT is making - a man-made doctrine.
Religious rhetoric.

Everyone is free to believe the popular & accepted 7 year plan. Most do. But, be careful of what popular preachers tell you - they'll give personal interpretations. Or, preach the accepted, popular beliefs of today. Some believers trust in tv preachers to explain what the Bible teaches.

Searching out this stuff takes time and effort.
Most won't do that, they trust in their religious leaders to explain it to them.

Jesus warned many times about false teachings that lead believers astray. The 'road to destruction' is the popular way. Most are on it. It SEEMS right.. and its the popular, accepted way.
These sheep are BEING LEAD astray by persuasion.

Its very hard to break away from popular, accept beliefs. Hard to leave the things you always accepted.
The church crowd will reject you. They think alike.
They will accuse you of being self-righteous or worse.

Following Jesus is a radical change.

The crowds turned away and rejected Jesus.
The crowds only wanted what He could do for them.

They left Him. The one's that He was sent to - He was their Messiah - they completely rejected Him.

That is what will happen to you if you depart from false teachings and the popular way of churchy-anity.

This is how it is supposed to be. To follow Jesus on the Narrow WAY that leads to everlasting life.
To leave the crowds. To depart from the wide road that leads to destruction.

To be the FEW who obey His words and follow Him.

Your church friends don't want you to leave. Crabs in a bucket don't want you to leave either.
LEAVE - DEPART from these harlot churches and ministries.

The deception and half-truths are so hidden in religious rhetoric and persuasive talk. Purposely hidden in the teachings. Those deceptions can lead a sheep - a believer - off a cliff.

Is the op's comment a cut/paste from John Hagee's "plain teaching"? He speaks in a way that influences the weak minded. Hagee is popular all over America.
Saying he is persecuted..

He is "persecuted" by scholars and others who reveal his errors. That's all. They attempt to try to help the foolish sheep in his church to THINK and move away from his false teachings.
There's no persecution when the preacher is in error.

He is simply being warned. Yes, there is anger.
Anger - because the foolish sheep won't listen.
They are in danger and reject Truth.

Sound doctrine is used to try to correct these kinds of ministries.
Hagee calls this persecution.
The deluded sheep of his church defend him. They will bare fangs to defend Hagee but they reject plain, sound doctrine. They made a choice.
They were told but refused to listen.
Begging them to seek Truth doesn't seem to work. They made a choice to believe deceitful religious leaders and the men who invented these lying doctrines.

The J..s love Hagee's church because his ministry sends prayers & money to build "The 3rd Temple".
They laugh at the people who buy into this doctrine. They do. They are ones who made that teaching popular.

TBN gushed over Jonathan Cahn & his series of books. He steered many to follow the "plan".
Along with the "plan" is a modified gospel that is taught by those deceitful preachers. It is more like an inflated insurance policy. "Just believe it" they say.

The foolish sheep trust in men to explain what the Bible says. They open the Bible and only see what they've been told to believe in.

Some search. Some find a way out.
They loved Truth more than men's doctrines.

That Hagee guy lives like a king.
His church is a little kingdom. Saw a vid once. They adore him. These preachers love the spotlight and the praise.
They get perks. That is what they traded for.
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rapture is impossible. it cannot exist.
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Re: The Rapture can't be dated. It happens when the last gentile in the age of grace gets saved. Stop guessing silliness.
Paul says that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in the age of Grace ends.

It is an event for the Bride of Christ, people who are saved and Holy Spirit filled. All the dead who were saved, their spirits are with Christ. They get new bodies and go up first. Those alive and remaining are then taken and their bodies are transformed into perfected bodies in the twinkling of an eye.

The 7 year Trib is not for the Body of Christ. It is for the J--s, to bring them to the knowledge that Jesus is their messiah.

The devil hates this plain teaching and thus used the RCC to spirtualize all of it. The early church fathers taught it, is is an obvious teaching. This is why there is so much mocking and scoffing, it is the Blessed Hope of the Body of Christ and the devil inspires demonically so that people attack it.

The people trying to date it do a disservice even though most who do that mean well. But the time is based on an event, not a festival or numerical equation.

Keep spreading the gospel and keep praying for those who persecute you. Follow Christ. He will take the bride when it happens, don't be anxious.

Maranatha!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80378338


Scripture says none of those things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77149635


The op wrote a comment that is mostly religious rhetoric. He/she sounds sincere. Using words to persuade - but it lacks content. It lacks sound doctrine.

Supposedly, the "early church fathers taught this obvious teaching" -- wait. Proving that - can only be done by weaving together different verses to make it say what you want.
THAT is making - a man-made doctrine.
Religious rhetoric.

Everyone is free to believe the popular & accepted 7 year plan. Most do. But, be careful of what popular preachers tell you - they'll give personal interpretations. Or, preach the accepted, popular beliefs of today. Some believers trust in tv preachers to explain what the Bible teaches.

Searching out this stuff takes time and effort.
Most won't do that, they trust in their religious leaders to explain it to them.

Jesus warned many times about false teachings that lead believers astray. The 'road to destruction' is the popular way. Most are on it. It SEEMS right.. and its the popular, accepted way.
These sheep are BEING LEAD astray by persuasion.

Its very hard to break away from popular, accept beliefs. Hard to leave the things you always accepted.
The church crowd will reject you. They think alike.
They will accuse you of being self-righteous or worse.

Following Jesus is a radical change.

The crowds turned away and rejected Jesus.
The crowds only wanted what He could do for them.

They left Him. The one's that He was sent to - He was their Messiah - they completely rejected Him.

That is what will happen to you if you depart from false teachings and the popular way of churchy-anity.

This is how it is supposed to be. To follow Jesus on the Narrow WAY that leads to everlasting life.
To leave the crowds. To depart from the wide road that leads to destruction.

To be the FEW who obey His words and follow Him.

Your church friends don't want you to leave. Crabs in a bucket don't want you to leave either.
LEAVE - DEPART from these harlot churches and ministries.

The deception and half-truths are so hidden in religious rhetoric and persuasive talk. Purposely hidden in the teachings. Those deceptions can lead a sheep - a believer - off a cliff.

Is the op's comment a cut/paste from John Hagee's "plain teaching"? He speaks in a way that influences the weak minded. Hagee is popular all over America.
Saying he is persecuted..

He is "persecuted" by scholars and others who reveal his errors. That's all. They attempt to try to help the foolish sheep in his church to THINK and move away from his false teachings.
There's no persecution when the preacher is in error.

He is simply being warned. Yes, there is anger.
Anger - because the foolish sheep won't listen.
They are in danger and reject Truth.

Sound doctrine is used to try to correct these kinds of ministries.
Hagee calls this persecution.
The deluded sheep of his church defend him. They will bare fangs to defend Hagee but they reject plain, sound doctrine. They made a choice.
They were told but refused to listen.
Begging them to seek Truth doesn't seem to work. They made a choice to believe deceitful religious leaders and the men who invented these lying doctrines.

The J..s love Hagee's church because his ministry sends prayers & money to build "The 3rd Temple".
They laugh at the people who buy into this doctrine. They do. They are ones who made that teaching popular.

TBN gushed over Jonathan Cahn & his series of books. He steered many to follow the "plan".
Along with the "plan" is a modified gospel that is taught by those deceitful preachers. It is more like an inflated insurance policy. "Just believe it" they say.

The foolish sheep trust in men to explain what the Bible says. They open the Bible and only see what they've been told to believe in.

Some search. Some find a way out.
They loved Truth more than men's doctrines.

That Hagee guy lives like a king.
His church is a little kingdom. Saw a vid once. They adore him. These preachers love the spotlight and the praise.
They get perks. That is what they traded for.
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This^^^

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