Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,398 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 47,473
Pageviews Today: 132,850Threads Today: 41Posts Today: 1,049
01:54 AM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
We're in the middle of a literal genocide, let's worry about stuff which involves math & geometry too complex for most people to handle AFTER we've defeated the jabbers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76118793


Its very important to distinguish between, floating in space insignificant, and being on a flat earth observed by something. Maybe many somethings...

If it were not important, why does NASA with a budget in the billions continue to lie?

Why do you continue to support NASA while all this is going on?

Think about the implications my friend... Its all about the implications.
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/24/2021 11:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
OP,

as a space conspiracy fan, I can agree with you that NASA has told some whoppers.

that however does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

also the notion that living on a sphere somehow means that we are not "special" in a religious sense is just as much of disconnect.

A god could not have created a SPHERE for us to be special on?

The heliocentric model cleans up after itself, meaning all required forces are accounted for.

The FE model requires numerous force inputs (what moves the moon around? what moves the sun?) and even if those force inputs are granted, it still does not explain observed reality (southern VS northern stars for example)


OH AND ALL GLP AND ALL AC READING!
remember: NEVER click on any videos found in any FE threads. talk, argue, whatever but DO NOT CLICK

by refusing to click on the offered videos, the monetization NEVER HAPPENS.

the vast majority of FE posting amounts to a part time job as video clicks are collected for $ by assholes who dont even believe the BS they spout

edit to say 3 videos already in thread at time of this post

Last Edited by Uwascallywabbit on 11/24/2021 11:21 PM
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Why do people believe the gubbermint tells the truth, and not believe the Bible to be true?

I don't get it!


scratching
 Quoting: eversoclear


The gubermint is on TV and God, while present, is an allegory in our experience. Gubermint has taught us coincidences, are coincidences, and not God presenting himself to us.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
OP,

as a space conspiracy fan, I can agree with you that NASA has told some whoppers.

that however does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

also the notion that living on a sphere somehow means that we are not "special" in a religious sense is just as much of disconnect.

A god could not have created a SPHERE for us to be special on?

The heliocentric model cleans up after itself, meaning all required forces are accounted for.

The FE model requires numerous force inputs (what moves the moon around? what moves the sun?) and even if those force inputs are granted, it still does not explain observed reality (southern VS northern stars for example)


OH AND ALL GLP AND ALL AC READING!
remember: NEVER click on any videos found in any FE threads. talk, argue, whatever but DO NOT CLICK

by refusing to click on the offered videos, the monetization NEVER HAPPENS.

the vast majority of FE posting amounts to a part time job as video clicks are collected for $ by assholes who dont even believe the BS they spout
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


I agree with some of your assertions... however, the implications of NASA (multi billion dollar funded organization) lying... are quite huge... I implore you to rethink your logic.

Not only has NASA told "whoppers" all their footage is faked and photoshopped... How does that not make you go hmmmm?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80690731
United States
11/24/2021 11:22 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
...


This thing ain't real like you think it is. It could be either, or both, then neither. People don't even notice when major organs or bones move, shape of this spirit matrix?

Whatever it is when you're there. That's about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80690731


Well its as real as your perspective makes it and diving into these topics, as stated in other replies, is important.

Im not trying to make an overarching theme, im simply asking a simple question that is interesting and relevant. How real this experience is, its almost irrelevant, because we are indeed having it! At least i am... and I want to know, so here I am.

Whether its real or not, that is what is irrelevant... claiming its not real, so everything else is irrelevant, is kind of pointless. Playing a video game and not trying to win, because its just a video game... well then why play at all? Why are you bothering to make this comment? Why try to assert your ideas onto others, if its all meaningless? Think about that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


I have. It's simple.

Until we have real freedom, especially from the always lying controllers, we can't know anything. So don't be a selfish twat, be polite, and when tyranny rises.

Stomp it the fuck out.

Humanity needs to grow from slaves to free people. The only one who can do it, is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80690731


I dont disagree with you, but the thing is... You cant really wake people up... You can't. Let this take its course... If they want to die and/or be controlled, let them... If the Earth is Flat, then all of this is being watched, all of this means something... but still, youre not saving anyone by driving yourself crazy... focus on your own understanding. Go deeper and deeper.

Truth be told. We all need to be leaders and many, most, will never and cannot be. They will need to die before those that can become leaders, can see clearly.

Its a tough tough thing to accept... but beating your head against the wall is helping no one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


I promise you. We will all, ALL, be given the choice of slave or free being. The vaxxed already made theirs. The war is spiritual. Will you comply out of fear.... Again?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:27 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
...


Well its as real as your perspective makes it and diving into these topics, as stated in other replies, is important.

Im not trying to make an overarching theme, im simply asking a simple question that is interesting and relevant. How real this experience is, its almost irrelevant, because we are indeed having it! At least i am... and I want to know, so here I am.

Whether its real or not, that is what is irrelevant... claiming its not real, so everything else is irrelevant, is kind of pointless. Playing a video game and not trying to win, because its just a video game... well then why play at all? Why are you bothering to make this comment? Why try to assert your ideas onto others, if its all meaningless? Think about that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


I have. It's simple.

Until we have real freedom, especially from the always lying controllers, we can't know anything. So don't be a selfish twat, be polite, and when tyranny rises.

Stomp it the fuck out.

Humanity needs to grow from slaves to free people. The only one who can do it, is you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80690731


I dont disagree with you, but the thing is... You cant really wake people up... You can't. Let this take its course... If they want to die and/or be controlled, let them... If the Earth is Flat, then all of this is being watched, all of this means something... but still, youre not saving anyone by driving yourself crazy... focus on your own understanding. Go deeper and deeper.

Truth be told. We all need to be leaders and many, most, will never and cannot be. They will need to die before those that can become leaders, can see clearly.

Its a tough tough thing to accept... but beating your head against the wall is helping no one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


I promise you. We will all, ALL, be given the choice of slave or free being. The vaxxed already made theirs. The war is spiritual. Will you comply out of fear.... Again?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80690731


While this is not the topic of the thread, it is relevant... No. I will lie down a guillotine before I submit to a DNA altering vaccine... by people who are quite obviously lying and smirking as they give their televised performances... It baffles me that people dont see it, but I am not God... This all has its purpose.

I must focus on my actions and my character. What others do and why, and the confusion and pain it causes me, are not my concern, only a distraction. I must find and know the truth...
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:32 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
I was hesitant to post this because its very convincing and I after much research, I dont necessarily agree with all of his assertions...

I figured, f it, why not...



[link to www.bitchute.com (secure)]

Again, I dont agree with all of this guys assertions, but it was quite the interesting watch - 20+ hours later, I still conclude that it was worthwhile.
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/24/2021 11:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
OP,

as a space conspiracy fan, I can agree with you that NASA has told some whoppers.

that however does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

also the notion that living on a sphere somehow means that we are not "special" in a religious sense is just as much of disconnect.

A god could not have created a SPHERE for us to be special on?

The heliocentric model cleans up after itself, meaning all required forces are accounted for.

The FE model requires numerous force inputs (what moves the moon around? what moves the sun?) and even if those force inputs are granted, it still does not explain observed reality (southern VS northern stars for example)


OH AND ALL GLP AND ALL AC READING!
remember: NEVER click on any videos found in any FE threads. talk, argue, whatever but DO NOT CLICK

by refusing to click on the offered videos, the monetization NEVER HAPPENS.

the vast majority of FE posting amounts to a part time job as video clicks are collected for $ by assholes who dont even believe the BS they spout
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


I agree with some of your assertions... however, the implications of NASA (multi billion dollar funded organization) lying... are quite huge... I implore you to rethink your logic.

Not only has NASA told "whoppers" all their footage is faked and photoshopped... How does that not make you go hmmmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


there's nothing to rethink in what i wrote, NASA lying DOES NOT automatically mean that earth is flat, that is a HUGE leap of faith. That is a logical error called non-sequitur where B does not follow A but is presented as if it does.

edit - video count up to 4 now, DO NOT CLICK

Last Edited by Uwascallywabbit on 11/24/2021 11:37 PM
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
OP,

as a space conspiracy fan, I can agree with you that NASA has told some whoppers.

that however does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

also the notion that living on a sphere somehow means that we are not "special" in a religious sense is just as much of disconnect.

A god could not have created a SPHERE for us to be special on?

The heliocentric model cleans up after itself, meaning all required forces are accounted for.

The FE model requires numerous force inputs (what moves the moon around? what moves the sun?) and even if those force inputs are granted, it still does not explain observed reality (southern VS northern stars for example)


OH AND ALL GLP AND ALL AC READING!
remember: NEVER click on any videos found in any FE threads. talk, argue, whatever but DO NOT CLICK

by refusing to click on the offered videos, the monetization NEVER HAPPENS.

the vast majority of FE posting amounts to a part time job as video clicks are collected for $ by assholes who dont even believe the BS they spout
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


I agree with some of your assertions... however, the implications of NASA (multi billion dollar funded organization) lying... are quite huge... I implore you to rethink your logic.

Not only has NASA told "whoppers" all their footage is faked and photoshopped... How does that not make you go hmmmm?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


there's nothing to rethink in what i wrote, NASA lying DOES NOT automatically mean that earth is flat, that is a HUGE leap of faith. That is a logical error called non-sequitur where B does not follow A but is presented as if it does.

edit - video count up to 4 now, DO NOT CLICK
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


Go through this thread and count how many times i've stated, NASA lying does not mean flat earth...

But NASA IS LYING! and there are implications... You disagree?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 79421927
United States
11/24/2021 11:43 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
.
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/24/2021 11:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Go through this thread and count how many times i've stated, NASA lying does not mean flat earth...

But NASA IS LYING! and there are implications... You disagree?


i just went through the thread and the only time you state that "NASA lying does not mean flat earth..."

is right there

so the answer would be 1 time, just now.
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80982509
United States
11/24/2021 11:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


there is no discussion.. cold space makes planets and suns with hot cores into spheres... this ought to be EASY.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Oblate spheroid.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/24/2021 11:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Go through this thread and count how many times i've stated, NASA lying does not mean flat earth...

But NASA IS LYING! and there are implications... You disagree?
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


i just went through the thread and the only time you state that "NASA lying does not mean flat earth..."

is right there

so the answer would be 1 time, just now.


youre going to make me copy and paste? Anyone with any sense, who has read the thread till this point, knows that I have stated numerous times... The only thing im 100% sure of, is, NASA IS LYING

idk if youre doing this on purpose or not, but until you make a statement thats not designed to trigger me, im not replying anymore.

Either you dont want to see, or you are paid not to... either way, i have nothing more to say to you. Anyone paying attention knows you are being disingenuous.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:01 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


there is no discussion.. cold space makes planets and suns with hot cores into spheres... this ought to be EASY.
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Oblate spheroid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80982509


Thats possible. Despite your lack of evidence, as someone who can type things into a search engine, yeah, thats certainly possible... Why cant we go into Antarctica? Maybe there are lands beyond that?
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/25/2021 12:10 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
its all already been typed, anyone can do as i did and simply re read it, you are "triggered" because im not buying into the open ended illogical argument that NASA lying has "implications" that support your theory.
NASA lying could be to cover up that space is chock full of alien vessels..
NASA lying could be to cover up that the tech they use is too good to show to the general public.
NASA lying could be to cover up concave earth, or "big-ball" earth.

but the real problem with FE theories isnt even additional force input, as many FE believers think its a required part of a religious point of view, so the "extra" force inputs are the power of god and dont require explanation..

the realest problem with FE is academic ego. To hold FE as a "hidden reality" we have to believe that in the entire march of science, NO ONE in the last 2k plus years has reached for this low hanging fruit.
sounds like a great thesis. If its so easy to prove write it up, launch a best seller, and tell the world how simple this "truth" really is.

many of us are tired of these threads because they represent a perversion of conspiracy theory (chasing the truth instead of swallowing BS) AND they represent an abandonment of the march of science.

in the dark ages, when the church was burning people alive for having their own notions, the idea of an independent, publicly reproducible well of knowledge that anyone could tap into via education was seen as a way OUT of the maze of power and disinformation that culture was trapped in.

I for one, am not willing to toss that all away just because there still fools and shit heads among us.

is our government always honest? NO
does that invalidate the history of science? NO

Last Edited by Uwascallywabbit on 11/25/2021 12:10 AM
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
JoeM170

User ID: 78014095
United States
11/25/2021 12:15 AM

Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
NASA = Money Landery Got it?
Once you realizing this Perhaps since all nasa does is lie just like the Evil Vile Lefties The earth just might be flat .
Never Trust a White Liberal .
McCarthy was right !!!!
Democrats are pure evil and so are the republicans .
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
its all already been typed, anyone can do as i did and simply re read it, you are "triggered" because im not buying into the open ended illogical argument that NASA lying has "implications" that support your theory.
NASA lying could be to cover up that space is chock full of alien vessels..
NASA lying could be to cover up that the tech they use is too good to show to the general public.
NASA lying could be to cover up concave earth, or "big-ball" earth.

but the real problem with FE theories isnt even additional force input, as many FE believers think its a required part of a religious point of view, so the "extra" force inputs are the power of god and dont require explanation..

the realest problem with FE is academic ego. To hold FE as a "hidden reality" we have to believe that in the entire march of science, NO ONE in the last 2k plus years has reached for this low hanging fruit.
sounds like a great thesis. If its so easy to prove write it up, launch a best seller, and tell the world how simple this "truth" really is.

many of us are tired of these threads because they represent a perversion of conspiracy theory (chasing the truth instead of swallowing BS) AND they represent an abandonment of the march of science.

in the dark ages, when the church was burning people alive for having their own notions, the idea of an independent, publicly reproducible well of knowledge that anyone could tap into via education was seen as a way OUT of the maze of power and disinformation that culture was trapped in.

I for one, am not willing to toss that all away just because there still fools and shit heads among us.

is our government always honest? NO
does that invalidate the history of science? NO
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


You literally chose to double down, which is odd to me...

Again - NASA IS LYING... that doesnt prove a flat Earth and i never said that. I said the flat Earth assertions are compelling and backed with evidence.

Are you choosing to be dense? Or what...

Seriously, this is my last reply to you... you seem to be on a program that ignores new input. How many times do I need to reiterate the same thing?
NASA IS LYING!!!That's all I know for sure! Flat earth theorists make compelling arguments, not straw man bullshit like you are doing.

NASA is lying... They are 100% lying. They are faking things. Doesnt mean the Earth is flat, but NASA IS LYING!

Be dense or fake or whatever it is you are doing...
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
NASA = Money Landery Got it?
Once you realizing this Perhaps since all nasa does is lie just like the Evil Vile Lefties The earth just might be flat .
 Quoting: JoeM170


Thats something, maybe it is money laundering... where is all this money going? and obviously they are paying their actors well... what is the purpose?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80574883
11/25/2021 12:25 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


Here are all the facts. Watch and learn. Only after watching this video will you have the questions that have no answers.

Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:27 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


Here are all the facts. Watch and learn. Only after watching this video will you have the questions that have no answers.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574883


watched his whole series, posted it a few posts back, but thanks for chiming in.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80574883
11/25/2021 12:28 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Go through this thread and count how many times i've stated, NASA lying does not mean flat earth...

But NASA IS LYING! and there are implications... You disagree?
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


i just went through the thread and the only time you state that "NASA lying does not mean flat earth..."

is right there

so the answer would be 1 time, just now.


Watch this video before you open your mouth to shove in your foot.

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80574883
11/25/2021 12:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


Here are all the facts. Watch and learn. Only after watching this video will you have the questions that have no answers.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574883


watched his whole series, posted it a few posts back, but thanks for chiming in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


If you did, and it was watched, then there is no discussion. Yanno?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 80433300
United States
11/25/2021 12:29 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


If space is real in the sense that you think it is, then it would make the most sense that gravity would pull and condense everything into spheres.

There is however, no reason to believe that space is what the propaganda says it is.... Most religions talk about there being water above us which is why if the heavens open up the earth gets flooded with water.

A beautiful thought is that if the earth is just a cell in a larger body, then it would make sense that space would be liquid like our blood that pushes living cells around.

But your question wasn't about space, it was about the shape of the earth. To answer your question about why NASA is lying, most likely the earth is round, but there may be extra land that "they" don't want you to know about. Just like admiral Byrd said.

I can't prove what I am about to say, but I really believe the earth's atmosphere is much bigger than we are led to believe. I think that satellites are not in space, but still in our atmosphere. Most likely the earth's atmosphere extends to the moon as well. (And if you're talking about space anomalies the moon is a big one appears to have been brought here and hollow)

I don't know if the sun is in our atmosphere or not, but you should really consider that the atmosphere is much bigger then they say and when they tell you they are going into space they may not really be......

The moon appears round, the sun, the planets, I think it's plausible that the earth is round. The satellites are high up enough that they can take images of earth they are not lying about that. I think it would be too big of a lie to pull off faking all those pics and there is also live video feeds you can watch like from the space station.
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/25/2021 12:30 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
its all already been typed, anyone can do as i did and simply re read it, you are "triggered" because im not buying into the open ended illogical argument that NASA lying has "implications" that support your theory.
NASA lying could be to cover up that space is chock full of alien vessels..
NASA lying could be to cover up that the tech they use is too good to show to the general public.
NASA lying could be to cover up concave earth, or "big-ball" earth.

but the real problem with FE theories isnt even additional force input, as many FE believers think its a required part of a religious point of view, so the "extra" force inputs are the power of god and dont require explanation..

the realest problem with FE is academic ego. To hold FE as a "hidden reality" we have to believe that in the entire march of science, NO ONE in the last 2k plus years has reached for this low hanging fruit.
sounds like a great thesis. If its so easy to prove write it up, launch a best seller, and tell the world how simple this "truth" really is.

many of us are tired of these threads because they represent a perversion of conspiracy theory (chasing the truth instead of swallowing BS) AND they represent an abandonment of the march of science.

in the dark ages, when the church was burning people alive for having their own notions, the idea of an independent, publicly reproducible well of knowledge that anyone could tap into via education was seen as a way OUT of the maze of power and disinformation that culture was trapped in.

I for one, am not willing to toss that all away just because there still fools and shit heads among us.

is our government always honest? NO
does that invalidate the history of science? NO
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


You literally chose to double down, which is odd to me...

Again - NASA IS LYING... that doesnt prove a flat Earth and i never said that. I said the flat Earth assertions are compelling and backed with evidence.

Are you choosing to be dense? Or what...

Seriously, this is my last reply to you... you seem to be on a program that ignores new input. How many times do I need to reiterate the same thing?
NASA IS LYING!!!That's all I know for sure! Flat earth theorists make compelling arguments, not straw man bullshit like you are doing.

NASA is lying... They are 100% lying. They are faking things. Doesnt mean the Earth is flat, but NASA IS LYING!

Be dense or fake or whatever it is you are doing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


ok so thats out of the way then, we both agree that even IF NASA has lied (they have) then that does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

i would ask you then in good faith which bits of FE info you found to be compelling evidence?
please note that i will not click on a video to get an answer. when the movement first broke a few years back, I looked into some of their dogma and was not moved.
but maybe it was me, maybe i was having a bad day.

so which FE assertions did you find to be compelling and "backed with evidence"?

edited - video count now up to 5 DO NOT CLICK

Last Edited by Uwascallywabbit on 11/25/2021 12:40 AM
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:40 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
its all already been typed, anyone can do as i did and simply re read it, you are "triggered" because im not buying into the open ended illogical argument that NASA lying has "implications" that support your theory.
NASA lying could be to cover up that space is chock full of alien vessels..
NASA lying could be to cover up that the tech they use is too good to show to the general public.
NASA lying could be to cover up concave earth, or "big-ball" earth.

but the real problem with FE theories isnt even additional force input, as many FE believers think its a required part of a religious point of view, so the "extra" force inputs are the power of god and dont require explanation..

the realest problem with FE is academic ego. To hold FE as a "hidden reality" we have to believe that in the entire march of science, NO ONE in the last 2k plus years has reached for this low hanging fruit.
sounds like a great thesis. If its so easy to prove write it up, launch a best seller, and tell the world how simple this "truth" really is.

many of us are tired of these threads because they represent a perversion of conspiracy theory (chasing the truth instead of swallowing BS) AND they represent an abandonment of the march of science.

in the dark ages, when the church was burning people alive for having their own notions, the idea of an independent, publicly reproducible well of knowledge that anyone could tap into via education was seen as a way OUT of the maze of power and disinformation that culture was trapped in.

I for one, am not willing to toss that all away just because there still fools and shit heads among us.

is our government always honest? NO
does that invalidate the history of science? NO
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


You literally chose to double down, which is odd to me...

Again - NASA IS LYING... that doesnt prove a flat Earth and i never said that. I said the flat Earth assertions are compelling and backed with evidence.

Are you choosing to be dense? Or what...

Seriously, this is my last reply to you... you seem to be on a program that ignores new input. How many times do I need to reiterate the same thing?
NASA IS LYING!!!That's all I know for sure! Flat earth theorists make compelling arguments, not straw man bullshit like you are doing.

NASA is lying... They are 100% lying. They are faking things. Doesnt mean the Earth is flat, but NASA IS LYING!

Be dense or fake or whatever it is you are doing...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


ok so thats out of the way then, we both agree that even IF NASA has lied (they have) then that does not automatically mean that the earth is flat.

i would ask you then in good faith which bits of FE info you found to be compelling evidence?
please note that i will not click on a video to get an answer. when the movement first broke a few years back, I looked into some of their dogma and was not moved.
but maybe it was me, maybe i was having a bad day.

so which FE assertions did you find to be compelling and "backed with evidence"?
 Quoting: Uwascallywabbit


thats fair

Based on their mathematical calculations of Earth, objects at distances should obscured by the curvature of the Earth.

Why, with the satellites that are supposedly in orbit, do we not have a non-photoshopped picture of Earth?

The explanation of seasons, makes much more sense on a flat Earth model.

A poster on this thread, stated that liquid congeals in orb form, and I agree, it does. But in that same vein, when things are spun on Earth, they are forced out, they dont suck in.

I could list other, less relevant evidence, but I dont even want to prove a flat Earth, thats not my objective. What I do want to know though, why is NASA lying?

Why do we not have not even ONE photo of Earth that is not phtoshopped? Why do we not even have one... please in your reply, asnwer this question. Why do we not have one photo of Earth from space, that is not photoshopped... Not one..
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:43 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


Here are all the facts. Watch and learn. Only after watching this video will you have the questions that have no answers.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574883


watched his whole series, posted it a few posts back, but thanks for chiming in.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


If you did, and it was watched, then there is no discussion. Yanno?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80574883


Humans be humans... Why they take a shot thats proven to kill them? Iunno my friend, I do not know.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 12:55 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
Besides the usual, "obviously its a sphere, idiot" rhetoric. Let's discuss the merits of both models, using actual evidence and counter evidence.

Im perfectly fine to believe either, as long as it is the truth.

First and foremost, all supposed pictures of the Earth of space, are admittedly (by those that created the images) photoshopped. Lets start here and see where we go.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


If space is real in the sense that you think it is, then it would make the most sense that gravity would pull and condense everything into spheres.

There is however, no reason to believe that space is what the propaganda says it is.... Most religions talk about there being water above us which is why if the heavens open up the earth gets flooded with water.

A beautiful thought is that if the earth is just a cell in a larger body, then it would make sense that space would be liquid like our blood that pushes living cells around.

But your question wasn't about space, it was about the shape of the earth. To answer your question about why NASA is lying, most likely the earth is round, but there may be extra land that "they" don't want you to know about. Just like admiral Byrd said.

I can't prove what I am about to say, but I really believe the earth's atmosphere is much bigger than we are led to believe. I think that satellites are not in space, but still in our atmosphere. Most likely the earth's atmosphere extends to the moon as well. (And if you're talking about space anomalies the moon is a big one appears to have been brought here and hollow)

I don't know if the sun is in our atmosphere or not, but you should really consider that the atmosphere is much bigger then they say and when they tell you they are going into space they may not really be......

The moon appears round, the sun, the planets, I think it's plausible that the earth is round. The satellites are high up enough that they can take images of earth they are not lying about that. I think it would be too big of a lie to pull off faking all those pics and there is also live video feeds you can watch like from the space station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80433300


Well, while a lot of what you have said is perfectly plausible.

The ISS videos are faked... watch the videos I posted... You can see the lines. You can hear them say we have never been out of low Earth orbit. So this is not open to discussion. NASA IS LYING. But yes, maybe Earth is still an Orb, maybe the moon is hollow... I really dont know. But NASA is LYING!!! and there is PROOF! So do your research before commenting. I posted videos. and its not about believing the videos... its their videos... it shows them suspended on cables... it shows their hair is held in place with products (hair spray) like these things i wont debate... you can view it! if you refuse to believe your eyes, well thats on you, we only have our senses to judge and observe the world... We can meet no common ground if you dont trust your senses and just believe what you are told.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
User ID: 80406901
United States
11/25/2021 01:11 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
ill reiterate...

NASA IS LYING

I do not know the sape of the Earth, BUT

NASA IS LYING!
Uwascallywabbit

User ID: 78423040
United States
11/25/2021 01:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
well as i mentioned, Im a space conspiracy guy, i vastly prefer those ideas to political conspiracy ideas. i expect politics to be dirty, but i expect space to be filled with mysterious discoveries that certain parties may wish to keep private for their own benefit.

Why no pictures? i can speculate a few ideas, im not married to any of them, its brainstorming..

1 aliens are all over our system. have been for thousands of years. gov wont tell because it represents a power greater than gov. gov also fears a meltdown among the religious who may not be able to keep their cool in the face of such an idea challenge to their established world view. i know you dont like NASA but have you listened to any of the apollo recordings where astros say things like "they're still here watching us? i cant believe how big they are" etc?

2 no aliens just our seriously embarrassing space trash. After so many launches by so many countries over 50+ years there is an alarming amount of trash in earth orbit. (that part is real, my interpretation is only my idea). so much so that if photos were taken of it, it would alarm the folk below as none of the junk is auto correcting and as the orbits decay, a series of minor impacts is likely. add to that the fact that a bunch of the junk is classified. a bunch of the non-trash junk is also classified

3 secrets on the surface. the photos arent all the way real for the same reason that so much of google earth is fuzzed out. there are things on this planet that TPTB dont want folk looking at. are they ruins from atlantis? are they nazi bases in antarctica? alien bases on secret un charted islands? we dont know because we arent allowed to look

4 reality. the earth is really big, getting it all into the frame means being much farther away than low earth orbit. since apollo, most missions are in the 1500 mile range, while estimates for the photo that you want range from 2200 to 4k miles up. so a series of lower altitude pictures are stitched together to form the images that are here being griped about

5 marketing. like playboy magazine found out, some photos are just more marketable when altered.

so the best chance we had for these pics was during apollo, which had a different focus, with all that buzz about moon moon moon, no one bothered to build such a photo into the program, unless it was destroyed with some other apollo data for being "useless"
but my money is on aliens, because i think it is very unlikely that god created an empty universe and only gave life to us, i think it is more likely that it works like our deep oceans.. no matter how anti-life we think the environment might be, something has specialized to fill that niche, because god is a master creator with very deep foresight.
wouldnt the secret space program have such photos?
sure, but then we would start asking what kind of ship was used to collect them, and that might blow the SECRET side of the program
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 81242898
Mexico
11/25/2021 01:22 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: EARTH - Flat or Globe - discussion
It is also possible to shoot high altitude video of the earth and map that section of video onto a sphere to make it look like you’re looking at it from space.

You can also shoot video of astronauts under water against a green screen and then combine that video with the aerial footage described above.

You have to take their word for it that it’s real since it can’t be independently verified.
 Quoting: Sensible Coward


and theres lots of video evidence proving that the ISS live feeds are faked...

Im not sure of anything, other than NASA lying, but the evidence for a flat plane is pretty convincing.



[link to www.bitchute.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901


For fuck sakes, plot the planets, study moon cycles, eclipses, etc. You realize flat earth dipshits have no mathematical models for anything in Astronomy 101.





GLP