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XcDayStaR User ID: 73485913 United States 11/25/2021 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | behold the irrational cultists trying to explain and defend the so called Christ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80262380 face it...you been had and it is a terrible faith anyways....Jesus forgives your sins. So long as you say he is your savior any crime can be pardoned. Even if you are evil 99% till the day you die, but you confess and repent on your deathbed and you go to heaven. You guys are wrong. Jesus didn't come to be your personal life jacket. He came to show the way to making your own life jackets, but you keep grabbing for his. Silly people. You throw pearls to Swine! And it beautiful.... |
XcDayStaR User ID: 73485913 United States 11/25/2021 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | behold the irrational cultists trying to explain and defend the so called Christ Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80262380 face it...you been had and it is a terrible faith anyways....Jesus forgives your sins. So long as you say he is your savior any crime can be pardoned. Even if you are evil 99% till the day you die, but you confess and repent on your deathbed and you go to heaven. You guys are wrong. Jesus didn't come to be your personal life jacket. He came to show the way to making your own life jackets, but you keep grabbing for his. Silly people. Truth couldn't slap you in the face any harder with out decapitation! It brings tears when you know....wow |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80562797 United States 11/25/2021 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 KING JAMES VERSION Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Here Jesus specifically said SOME(not one person) OF THOSE WHO ARE STANDING HERE(people that he was speaking too at that time 2000 years ago) WOULD NOT TASTE DEATH (these people would NOT die) UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN (the son of man is Jesus) COMING IN HIS KINGDOM!(this means the kingdom of GOD! It cannot be any more clear people! Jesus told his disciples that he would come back in HIS KINGDOM before some of his disciples would die 2000 years ago! He never came back! And that means he is not ever going to! We are not in the biblical "end times" so get over it Just the opposite those people never died. Matthew 26:64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Same language, same imagery. Royalty, Kingdom of Heaven. Caiaphas is still alive, and others like him. Who do you think runs the world? . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80750453 United States 11/25/2021 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 KING JAMES VERSION Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Here Jesus specifically said SOME(not one person) OF THOSE WHO ARE STANDING HERE(people that he was speaking too at that time 2000 years ago) WOULD NOT TASTE DEATH (these people would NOT die) UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN (the son of man is Jesus) COMING IN HIS KINGDOM!(this means the kingdom of GOD! It cannot be any more clear people! Jesus told his disciples that he would come back in HIS KINGDOM before some of his disciples would die 2000 years ago! He never came back! And that means he is not ever going to! We are not in the biblical "end times" so get over it You are a Jesus killer, you'll always be a Jesus killer, why not just admit it! |
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Goldenboyz12 (OP) User ID: 75488957 United States 11/25/2021 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It refers to the transfiguration, the next event to happen. Quoting: Confederate Soldier Those apostles did not have to taste death before seeing Yahushua in His Kingdom. What you are saying here makes no sense. Here is the SAME WORD used for the disciples so it has no special connotation. Matthew 16:5 GRK: Καὶ ἐλθόντες οἱ μαθηταὶ KJV: disciples were come to So the word just means erchomai: to come, go Original Word: ἔρχομαι Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: erchomai Phonetic Spelling: (er'-khom-ahee) Short Definition: I come, go Definition: I come, go. To come….or go….lol But none the less it still doesn’t fit with the transfiguration as you said…. 3445 morphoó: to form Original Word: μορφόω Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: morphoó Phonetic Spelling: (mor-fo'-o) Short Definition: I form, fashion, shape Definition: I form, fashion, shape, mold. Transfigured just means to change form or fashion or shape. It only is in the new testament twice and no other places… so there is nothing to compare it to any where else… so it has NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS SUPPOSED RETURN! |
dogman17 User ID: 80888081 United States 11/26/2021 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus the human was probably a real person, but Gospel writers 50 to 100 years later embellished the story and made him into a God. Quoting: dogman17 JESUS CHRIST IS ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING AND WAS NEVER A HUMAN BUT A MAN AND GOD THE STORY WAS EMBELLISHED BY SATAN TO TRICK BELIEVERS INTO A FALSE BELIEF SO TYPICAL OF SATAN THE LIAR AND DESTROYER OF LIFE AND THE AUTHOR OF DEATH If it's in capital letters it must be true. Just don't make anything up. |
abbabdon444713 User ID: 81283047 United States 11/26/2021 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you idjuts were asked to leave a throne of ultimate power for the sake of a brother archangel wanting to give Adamas and mankind a chance against Satan , - the only catch was you had to leave your throne, go down and be killed by fleshbag dimwits - pretty sure u all would shite ur pants and stay about the 7th veil... And He heaved sighs over him daily, saying, "If I put breath into this man, he must suffer many pains." And I said unto My Father, "Put breath into him; I will be an advocate for him." And My Father said unto Me," If I put breath into him, My beloved Son, Thou wilt be obliged to go down into the world, and to suffer many pains for him before Thou shalt have redeemed him, and made him to come back to his primal state." And I said unto My Father, "Put breath into him; I will be his advocate, and I will go down into the world, and will fulfill Thy command." The Lord is gracious and sincere; therefore will he instruct sinners in the way. He will guide the tender-hearted in the judgment For my brethren will herald it among the race of men, so that they may hear and repent and be saved from the violent judgments of the evil rulers and go to the Height and inherit the Light-kingdom; because, my Lord, we are compassionate not only towards ourselves, but compassionate towards the whole race of men, so that they may be saved from all the violent judgments. are you tender-hearted ? if not ur the same reason why the nephilim still plague and pummel every1 here to this day..sorry 2 say Cowards. Pistis sophia's el'eleth - Daveithai's zoe |
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abbabdon444713 User ID: 81283047 United States 11/26/2021 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | be careful what you wish for, and opinions are like a$%^&*() every1 has em and they all stink. would be very very bad for those given to wickedness in spite of faith if the faithfuls prophecies came true tho, wouldnt it ? Pistis sophia's el'eleth - Daveithai's zoe |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77058818 France 11/26/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 KING JAMES VERSION Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Here Jesus specifically said SOME(not one person) OF THOSE WHO ARE STANDING HERE(people that he was speaking too at that time 2000 years ago) WOULD NOT TASTE DEATH (these people would NOT die) UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN (the son of man is Jesus) COMING IN HIS KINGDOM!(this means the kingdom of GOD! It cannot be any more clear people! Jesus told his disciples that he would come back in HIS KINGDOM before some of his disciples would die 2000 years ago! He never came back! And that means he is not ever going to! We are not in the biblical "end times" so get over it he was referring to the progeny of whites and he did come back as the noble wolf of germany the world blew it now you pay until you become skint and wither away |
Goldenboyz12 (OP) User ID: 81296969 Brazil 11/26/2021 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said it wouldn’t be in their lifetime Quoting: burneracct Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Unless you are reincarnated you cannot see the kingdom. I can prove how long Jesus meant when he would return and come "in his kingdom" here and here is how! Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Matthew 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: So when did Jesus say he was going to come in his glory and with the angels? Well it is easy lets go back to previous verses I have stated over and over… Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Again Jesus says here that some of the people he is speaking too will NOT DIE UNTIL THEY SEE the son of man come in glory with all the angels and to judge men in his kingdom! This was supposed to happen 2000 years ago! Because some of those people he was speaking too would die and some would still be alive in THAT TIME OR GENERATION! And when was that last generation? Well Jesus tells everybody so it should be obvious... what generation was an evil generation ? Luke 11:9 As the crowd pressed in on Jesus, he said, “This evil generation keeps asking me to show them a miraculous sign. But the only sign I will give them is the sign of Jonah. The generation that was alive when Jesus supposedly was on earth as the above verse proves But Jesus give other clues also... |
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Strait legg bastard User ID: 81068331 11/27/2021 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He came back and ruled for 1000 years as per revelation, 100-200 years ago our history was reset as Satan was released from the pit, we are at the very end of revelation not the beginning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81229045 That is exactly what my gut feeling is saying.. never believed anything. Now its the only explanation i can find. |
Goldenboyz12 (OP) User ID: 81296969 Brazil 11/27/2021 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said it wouldn’t be in their lifetime Quoting: burneracct Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Unless you are reincarnated you cannot see the kingdom. Mark 13:30 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Jesus tells people living 2000 years ago that this generation the generation he was speaking to 2000 years ago will see all these things happen I think people have a hard time understanding the context and English these verses clearly state that the generation that was supposed to see Jesus come in his kingdom in all power and glory and with all the signs lived 2000 years ago!!" Not today Acts 2:40 With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." Paul tells the people 2000 years ago save yourselves from THIS corrupt generation. Paul was not referring to a generation 2000 years in the future he was talking to the people right then and there ....you people need to learn to read some English(and greek)... Even more proof that Jesus was supposed to come back in the lifetime of his disciple and didnt! |
Goldenboyz12 (OP) User ID: 81296969 Brazil 11/27/2021 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 Just the opposite those people never died. Matthew 26:64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.” Same language, same imagery. Royalty, Kingdom of Heaven. Caiaphas is still alive, and others like him. Who do you think runs the world? . lets look at John 21:18-24 again. And I will show how this PROVES my point about Jesus and WHEN he said he was coming and what his followers believed! John 21:18-24 18 “I tell you the truth, when you were young, you were able to do as you liked; you dressed yourself and went wherever you wanted to go. But when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and others[f] will dress you and take you where you don’t want to go.” 19 JESUS SAID THIS TO LET HIM KNOW WHAT KIND OF DEATH HE WOULD GLORIFY GOD. Then Jesus told him, “Follow me.” So Jesus said this to Peter to let him know how he would die and it may not be how he wants die! So we are talking about death! 20 Peter turned around and saw behind them the disciple Jesus loved—the one who had leaned over to Jesus during supper and asked, “Lord, who will betray you?” 21 Peter asked Jesus, “What about him, Lord?” Peter is asking about John and how he would die. What kind of death would he die is what Peter is asking here...And if it would be a martyr death or not?!?! 22 Jesus replied, “IF I WANT HIM TO REMAIN ALIVE UNTIL I RETURN, WHAT IS THAT TO YOU? As for you, follow me.” 23 So the rumor spread among the community of believers[g] that this disciple wouldn’t die. But that isn’t what Jesus said at all. He only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?” So essentially Peter is asking if John is going to die soon and if it is a death to glorify god. Jesus said back to Peter that IF HE(i.e. JESUS) WANTED TO KEEP JOHN ALIVE UNTIL HE COMES BACK(remember his coming in clouds, in power and glory with angels, etc. etc.) THEN WHAT IS THAT TO PETER? In other words its none of your business Peter. WHy would Jesus even say anything about his coming back if it was not expected with the lifetime of his followers? THE FACT IS HE WOULDNT BECAUSE JESUS SAID HE WOULD RETURN IN THE LIFETIME OF HIS FOLLOWERS! AND PETER NEVER QUESTIONED IT AND NEITHER DID THE WRITER JOHN! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63927796 United States 11/27/2021 12:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The idea that following Jesus shared anything with crucifixion—the tortuous, humiliating, violating death on a cross—would have shocked the disciples. Still, He has said anyone who would follow Him must deny himself and take up his cross (Matthew 16:24). Jesus had not yet revealed that He would die on a cross, though He will include that later in His teaching (John 12:32–34). Instead, He presented this as the most vivid of metaphors. Those who followed Him would have to willingly die to every bit of their own agenda, their own identity, their own approach. Now Jesus becomes even more clear that He is describing the death of self: whoever would save his or her life will lose it. However, those who willingly lose their lives for His sake will find true life. In saying this, Jesus changed the stakes. Death to self is required to follow Him, yes, but it is also required to find the life that is truly life. In other words, Jesus says that following Him comes at the terrible cost of losing oneself, but the alternative is to permanently lose one's life. Jesus will make clear in the following verses that this loss of life for those who do not take the hard path of following Him will come at the judgment by Jesus and His angels (Matthew 16:27). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69408373 United States 11/27/2021 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've wondered about that. Quoting: Peepaws It seems that he said he would be back soon rather than a couple thousand years, but people will say he meant something else. Of course! Just as the universe/world was created in 6 days. Oh wait, it wasn't. So, god days are different. As various biblical claims are shown false, you either reject the claims or keep changing a word(s) or phrases meaning. Got to keep the tale alive by any means...if you don't a lake of fire awaits you. Threats to keep skeptical folks in line. It works for some. Go love and worship a being that is burning your children in a lake of fire for declining belief. Its sick and thankfully just another tale like all god tales are. Its just your god tale so it must be true. Just ask the Neptune believers. It never ends. People in government are raping your kids your neighbor is a pedo you ain't doing shit about them so what do you care what God does? |
Goldenboyz12 (OP) User ID: 80720333 Guatemala 11/28/2021 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 KING JAMES VERSION Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Here Jesus specifically said SOME(not one person) OF THOSE WHO ARE STANDING HERE(people that he was speaking too at that time 2000 years ago) WOULD NOT TASTE DEATH (these people would NOT die) UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN (the son of man is Jesus) COMING IN HIS KINGDOM!(this means the kingdom of GOD! It cannot be any more clear people! Jesus told his disciples that he would come back in HIS KINGDOM before some of his disciples would die 2000 years ago! He never came back! And that means he is not ever going to! We are not in the biblical "end times" so get over it No one has debunked or shown where I am wrong in my analysis of the "coming of the son of man" i.e. Jesus. Thats because I am right. Jesus is not coming back folks. Your on your own! |
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936432979 User ID: 76832232 United States 11/28/2021 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus told his disciples when he was going to come back and he never did! Quoting: Goldenboyz12 KING JAMES VERSION Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom." Here Jesus specifically said SOME(not one person) OF THOSE WHO ARE STANDING HERE(people that he was speaking too at that time 2000 years ago) WOULD NOT TASTE DEATH (these people would NOT die) UNTIL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN (the son of man is Jesus) COMING IN HIS KINGDOM!(this means the kingdom of GOD! It cannot be any more clear people! Jesus told his disciples that he would come back in HIS KINGDOM before some of his disciples would die 2000 years ago! He never came back! And that means he is not ever going to! We are not in the biblical "end times" so get over it No one has debunked or shown where I am wrong in my analysis of the "coming of the son of man" i.e. Jesus. Thats because I am right. Jesus is not coming back folks. Your on your own! You are correct he will not return again. He returned to them after being crucified, but not as a King or conquering Messiah and did not restore their kingdom. So it is both a fulfilled and a failed promise/prophecy. And where he went when he ‘ascended into Heaven’ is where we (everyone) goes after death. He proved to them that the soul/spirit lives on after death and does not die. |