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| Inevitability Offer Upgrade  User ID: 80562719  United Kingdom11/25/2021 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Rick Deez Nuts User ID: 80507051 United States11/25/2021 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901 Not sure about them all but mana and gala popped in the last few days so of course they will look better against the stalwarts like BTC. I’d need to see a longer historical measure of the bots success. Took some nice gains of MANA yesterday |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901 If you use the 'AI strategy, it changes your hedge amount more in favor of usdt, so your portfolio is more stable over crashes and dips. If you set it to 0% hedge you can get crazy gains, but also crazy losses as with the markets. I used there 'AI automatic strategy' over the last dip and came out beating BTC by 8% Now I've got it set to 0% hedge and it is eating up gaming and metaverse coins and heading a green upwards trend. Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | what did it grow your 1500 initial investment into over that time? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80406901 Not sure about them all but mana and gala popped in the last few days so of course they will look better against the stalwarts like BTC. I’d need to see a longer historical measure of the bots success. Took some nice gains of MANA yesterday It rebalances and buys and sells as it sees fit. Last year Nov 2020 - 2021 it had an 8000% profit year. Read the site it's all there. Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atm I'm around 9% up on my investment, considering BTC divebombed it has navigated the market pretty well. It saves time, it constantly updates buys sells takes profits from the top 30 coins on binance, how many hours in a day would that take a person? Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numbers from there site: If you had invested $5000 in since 1st JAN - Now Stoic - $50,650 Crypto 20 - $38,150 Bitcoin - $22,050 Tesla - $15,100 S&P 500 - $6,950 Amazon - $5,500 Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81083046 United States11/25/2021 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81083046 United States11/25/2021 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai. |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Don't know if I understand you. You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas). Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make. You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading. Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:24 PM Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dont need AI bot to crush this market. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77994864 ENJ Dot Link UNI AVAX Loopring BAT Algorand NU Buy..HODL..See you next year. I got my bags separate, this is day trading for me with 0 effort. Just another lane of income. Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:24 PM Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai. I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess. Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 12:28 PM Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81083046 United States11/25/2021 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Don't know if I understand you. You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas). Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make. You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading. It is interesting and I appreciate the suggestion. Seems there is a pretty big downside but I'll investigate and run some calculations. |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Don't know if I understand you. You pay 5% on your initial fee. So if you want to trade with 2000, you need to have 2000usdt in binance and pay Stoic 100usdt separately (+ gas). Then whatever is in stoic in 1 years time should you choose to continue, you pay 5% of that amount. Obviously the more money in the account the more fees you pay, but also the more gains it can make. You can withdraw at anytime, as long as there is 1000usdt remaining it will continue trading. It is interesting and I appreciate the suggestion. Seems there is a pretty big downside but I'll investigate and run some calculations. I don't see any downside apart from the initial fee, which I've made back in less than a week. The time saved allows me to look into other projects instead of constantly checking prices and trading. That is worth it to me alone. Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81083046 United States11/25/2021 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai. I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess. Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others. Same as it ever was. |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80562719 United Kingdom11/25/2021 12:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4-5% annual fee up front cuts 10% gains to 5%. 5% loss becomes 10%. Then you pay the fee for the next year. On the full balance? Right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai. I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess. Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others. Same as it ever was. Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion. Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81083046 United States11/25/2021 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81083046 Good forbid it actually trades/swaps the cryptos because the taxes would be a killer. Idk, I think I'll just hold a bag and forgo the ai. I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess. Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others. Same as it ever was. Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion. I agree in principle, but it's a very idealistic way to look at it. When talking about real money, it's not a practical approach imo. To succeed with that mentality over the long term requires hiding in the shadows, laundering gains... John McAfee type of fate. Not the hill I want to die on. To each their own though. |
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| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 79702058 United Kingdom11/25/2021 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Inevitability I don't know how this works in the USA, if you pay taxes on your crypto then you're stuck being a slave I guess. Yes, tax strategy is important in the US. The strategy of "don't pay taxes" is not a winning one. And yes, we are all slaves in that regard. Those who are not slaves are prisoners. Some of us just have more money and work less than others. Same as it ever was. Privacy coins, I'm neither a slave or a prisoner. I'm just a free human being, I don't pay extortion. I agree in principle, but it's a very idealistic way to look at it. When talking about real money, it's not a practical approach imo. To succeed with that mentality over the long term requires hiding in the shadows, laundering gains... John McAfee type of fate. Not the hill I want to die on. To each their own though. Do you pay taxes on gambling winnings, lottery or competition prizes and such? I pay taxes from my job as do we all (apart from the super elite), which I don't agree with. That is theft in itself. But to pay taxes on crypto is ridiculous. Do they see it as an asset? What if you lose money, do they give you tax relief for that? What a load of shit. If you wanted to cash out $500000 to buy a house, yea, maybe pay housing taxes etc. But to charge you tax on 'theoretical' numbers is absurd. I started making money online playing poker years ago, all winnings were tax free. I apply the same model to crypto, I'm gambling my money that I earned so they're my winnings. Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 81257318 United States11/25/2021 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 79702058 United Kingdom11/25/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How's it perform vs Stoic? I might postulate you are dumb. Last Edited by Inevitability on 11/25/2021 02:17 PM Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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| Inevitability (OP) User ID: 80883816 United Kingdom11/25/2021 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your funds are on binance, you set up an API key and enable spot trading for stoic, but not withdrawals. Only you can withdraw funds. If you want to carry on trading separate from your stoic portfolio, you can also open a sub account on binance and carry on your own trades through that, keeping the funds separate (otherwise stoic uses all funds available to trade with). Fatality. Out of Sanity. Sublime Paragon. Transcendent Virtuoso. Marduk the Inimitable. Truth Ranger. Ipso Facto. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Truth is like the sun. You can shut it out for a time, but it ain't goin away. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
