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Boy, 11, who was deaf for NINE years regains hearing... after cotton bud pops out of his ear
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For nine years, Jerome Bartens had to cope with the handicap of being half deaf.

Ever since he was a toddler, the 11-year-old had been unable to hear anything on his right side and doctors said they were unable to help.

Then suddenly the reason for his problems became clear - when the end of a cotton bud popped out of his ear.

Jerome with the cotton bud that was stuck in his ear for nine years. It popped out while he was playing pool with friends

His family believe that he must have poked the bud in the ear at the age of two and the tip must have broken off the plastic stem.

The result was that he has always struggled at school, was constantly forced to turn up the volume of the television and music, and became used to everyone shouting at him.

But now he is waking up to a whole world of noise - while his father Carsten is demanding to know why medical experts failed to identify the problem for so long.

Cured: Jerome Barten can now hear perfectly
Yesterday Mr Bartens, 45, told how Jerome was playing with his friends in a church hall when he heard a popping sound in his right ear.

He put his finger in and found the tip of a cotton wool bud.

"It was just incredible - his hearing returned to normal in an instant.

"He was cured as suddenly as he became deaf. I had always suspected Jerome had stuck something in his ear when he was little and that was causing the problem.

"But the doctors and hearing specialists said it was wax and he would probably grow out of it.

"I am amazed they didn't spot something as obvious as a cotton wool bud."

Mr Bartens, an HGV driver from Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, has now complained to his GP and hearing specialists who examined Jerome over the years.

He said: "It has held Jerome back in school and caused him problems in communicating with his friends."

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The cause: Experts could not figure out why Jerome was deaf but a simple a cotton bud was to blame

Mr Bartens - who also has two daughters Takita, 16, and Tiffany, 14 - says he is "thrilled" that Jerome's hearing has come back.

He said: "If he was playing in the garden I would have to shout for him eight or nine times before he would respond.

"But now he has 100 per cent hearing and he's just a normal boy again."

Jerome is due to be examined by hearing experts this week - and his father is taking along the cotton wool bud as proof of his "miracle cure".

"I can hear much better now and I think I'll be much happier at school now my ear does not ache all the time," said Jerome.

"I was just playing pool in the church hall when my ear made a popping noise. It was very strange at first to be able to hear everything.

"But now I'm getting used to it - it's great that people don't have to shout to me and that I don't have to turn my head all the time."

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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
Mistakes never happen in the USA. Naaaaaah.

You think this article is a (good) reason to not have govt run health care? LOL.

The current system is working sooooooo well. Obviously. hiding
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If that were me or my family, I think I would spend the rest of my life figuring out how to kidnap and surgically make deaf every single person who had anything to do with that situation. Yet another reason why I will never see a doctor. My body is an amazing thing, it is incomprehensible to me how it works. That said, when it stops working, it can fuck off, that's my free ticket out of this ridiculous existence.
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
How the fuck did no one notice a cotton bud in his ear canal when they examined his ears?

Makes you wonder just how awake people really are in this fucking world. I mean jesus christ, this story takes the absolute fucking biscuit.. its beyond retarded.

Im happy for the guy definatly, but the doctors and people who examined his ears should be fucking fired from their positions for not actually doing their jobs properly..

They either;

a) Didn't see the bud because they have sight problems
b) Didn't see the bud because they didn't actually look
c) Didn't see the bud because they "looked", but weren't actually paying attention


Am i being too harsh, i mean honestly?
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I'm not much for socialized Anything....much less the so-called 'healthcare' in the US.
So, No!
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UK doctors are CRAP, all of them!

They play the numbers game. They look at your age and physical condition, and work out the ODDS of you having anything serious, I'm convinced they do. My daughter nearly lost her right leg 4 years back because she had a bone infection that they didn't take seriously. She was VERY lucky to not have any long term effects from that. She's right as rain now.

I am ill, and have been for years, and I've been TELLING them all the while.

I'm starting to go downhill now. Tired ALL the time. Pains in the left of my chest, weird heart rhythms, and lately I'm finding it hard to sleep what with the pain worsening. Going for a heart scan tomorrow, and if THAT don't pick up what is wrong with me I'm fucking giving up!

These docs in this country are doing nothing but ride the gravy train, simple as that!

Arseholes.

That family, delighted as they are about their kid, should sue the fucking doctors who looked at their kid, to compensate him for his lost childhood.
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Pac, just go away and die.
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I've known and spoke with many people from various locations on this planet, and though most would agree it's nice to have free medical (Gov. provided via taxes) the first complaint they have is the quality of care they receive.
anything after 'but' is bullshit!

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Do various research and become informed. For example, "Sicko" was interesting.
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Why was this such a problem if he had full hearing in the other ear? Many many people are deaf in one ear and can function just fine.
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I'm not much for socialized Anything....much less the so-called 'healthcare' in the US.
So, No!
 Quoting: ~Ajax~ 359231

Sorta reminds me of all the Unemployment tax that everybody pays but only a certain select ever get to draw unemployment benefits from.

How much Unemployment insurance Tax have you all paid in your life times, how much have you ever gotten back in Unemployment benefit? How may have paid in but don't qualify to receive unemployment benefits because you were forced for what ever aggression reason to only work part time the past year or two and now find you cannot collect any unemployment while you have been paying into it your all adult working life?

There used to be a call against Taxation without Representation. Now it seems we need a call of Taxation with services received.

Socialized Health Care will have the same sorts of disqualification for certain groups of people who will pay the whole adult working life into it only to find when they need it they somehow have fallen through the cracks and get little or no help at all from the social system.
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I've known and spoke with many people from various locations on this planet, and though most would agree it's nice to have free medical (Gov. provided via taxes) the first complaint they have is the quality of care they receive.
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn


I'm sure that about 50 million Americans would suffer through the "quality" problems. They would be happy just to get ANY health care.
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Meant to state: "Now it seems we need a call of Taxation withOUT services received.
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You know, there are people that honestly cannot help the ailments they struggle with on a daily basis complicated even further by no health insurance. Couple that with the OVERLY inflated prices of treatment and medicines, I can honestly see why this is a hot topic.....

but, people like that are a small percentage of the over all population. Universal coverage will cater mostly to those who DON'T take care of themselves; the alcoholics, the druggies, the obese, etc. These are people who suffer sickness because of CHOICES they make and us TAX payers would be paying for them to continue their bad habits.
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
ya,
stop being scared of the word "socialized".

it's been conditioned into you to hate the term.

here in belgium (socialist mainly), the doctors are mostly excellent, the roads are smooth, the trains run on time and you can have as many jobs as you want.

sounds like paradise, huh?

you can have your capitalist oligarchy in the states.
it's a shitty system that benefits only the richest of the rich.
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As a Brit who lived in the US for years, it was the US docs who nearly killed me twice and charged me a few hundred thousand for the privelege - no such thing happened in the UK.
So are we calling the US system UNsocialized medicine then?
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
More great news about socialized medicine! Cue the bad British teeth jokes.

More than seven million patients have been unable to see an NHS dentist for almost two years.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


Don't treat the old and unhealthy, say doctors.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
More great news about socialized medicine! Cue the bad British teeth jokes.

More than seven million patients have been unable to see an NHS dentist for almost two years.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


Don't treat the old and unhealthy, say doctors.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: mathetes


simple answer.

start refusing to pay national insurance contributions.

if you are refused treatment, refuse to pay your contribution.
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
Oh yeah, and that COULD NEVER happen here could it? You are still a shill for big pharma pac, everyone here knows they own you. STFU already with your horror stories, take the extreme profit out of the 'practice' of medicine and health will prevail. Go tell your boss that that thread didn't work either. The American public will soon be rid of the likes of you and those of us in the medical field with true intentions will be the cream that rises to the top. You, and yours will be forced to find another way to dupe the public for your fortunes. rant
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I'm not much for socialized Anything....much less the so-called 'healthcare' in the US.
So, No!
 Quoting: ~Ajax~ 359231

Hey, Healthcare in the US is called blood money.
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UK doctors are CRAP, all of them!

They play the numbers game. They look at your age and physical condition, and work out the ODDS of you having anything serious, I'm convinced they do. My daughter nearly lost her right leg 4 years back because she had a bone infection that they didn't take seriously. She was VERY lucky to not have any long term effects from that. She's right as rain now.

I am ill, and have been for years, and I've been TELLING them all the while.

I'm starting to go downhill now. Tired ALL the time. Pains in the left of my chest, weird heart rhythms, and lately I'm finding it hard to sleep what with the pain worsening. Going for a heart scan tomorrow, and if THAT don't pick up what is wrong with me I'm fucking giving up!

These docs in this country are doing nothing but ride the gravy train, simple as that!

Arseholes.

That family, delighted as they are about their kid, should sue the fucking doctors who looked at their kid, to compensate him for his lost childhood.
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You are a lying twat.

And why do Zionist Megaphonies always choose stories from the Daily Mail? Is it owned by the vile Zionazi with an agenda? ;)

My doctor is excellent.

In the USA doctors can kill. In the UK it is illegal for doctors to kill. In the USA doctors are greedy, consciousless fucks.
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I've known and spoke with many people from various locations on this planet, and though most would agree it's nice to have free medical (Gov. provided via taxes) the first complaint they have is the quality of care they receive.
 Quoting: Sireen-reborn

Quality of care my ass.

Check out the statistics for quality of care and you will find the US nearly bottom.

No-one is stupid enough in The West to accept the corrupt scheme of heathcare you yanks accept. Seriously.
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Pac, just go away and die.
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I so wish he would. I couldn't live in the same country with that prick. By all accounts there are many more just like him in the US!

You have my sympathy.
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Re: U really want Socialized Medicine? UK ~ Deaf boy cured when cotton ball falls out of ear. Doctors didnt notice it for 9 years.
You know, there are people that honestly cannot help the ailments they struggle with on a daily basis complicated even further by no health insurance. Couple that with the OVERLY inflated prices of treatment and medicines, I can honestly see why this is a hot topic.....

but, people like that are a small percentage of the over all population. Universal coverage will cater mostly to those who DON'T take care of themselves; the alcoholics, the druggies, the obese, etc. These are people who suffer sickness because of CHOICES they make and us TAX payers would be paying for them to continue their bad habits.
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God, I hate Repukes. Selfish and greedy bastards all.
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More great news about socialized medicine! Cue the bad British teeth jokes.

More than seven million patients have been unable to see an NHS dentist for almost two years.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]


Don't treat the old and unhealthy, say doctors.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
 Quoting: mathetes

Ah. So this IS a Zionazi Megaphony thread! I wonder how this helps your agenda?

Still sore that Israel is as popular as a wet fart in an astronaut suit here?

You guys are sooooo lame.
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As a Brit who lived in the US for years, it was the US docs who nearly killed me twice and charged me a few hundred thousand for the privelege - no such thing happened in the UK.
So are we calling the US system UNsocialized medicine then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 364207

That is what US doctors do... and they have Governmental backing. When you go to a doctor in the US they will steal your money and then spit on you.

The Repukes seem to like being treated like shit by authority figures.
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ya,
stop being scared of the word "socialized".

it's been conditioned into you to hate the term.

here in belgium (socialist mainly), the doctors are mostly excellent, the roads are smooth, the trains run on time and you can have as many jobs as you want.

sounds like paradise, huh?

you can have your capitalist oligarchy in the states.
it's a shitty system that benefits only the richest of the rich.
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Just mention HUMAN RIGHTS to indoctrinated Americans and they faint. The only thing they have been brainwashed to valure is WEALTH.

Haven't you noticed that they are absolutely obssessed with money?

Universal Healthcare for ALL!
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U really want Socialized Medicine?

Not at all.
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Not long ago I broke my leg, {I'm in the UK} After about I was tended to then put in a ward for about five days to keep the leg under observation. Believe it or not I was also fed and helped to the toilet and all for free, you will not find me complaining.
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Ah. So this IS a Zionazi Megaphony thread! I wonder how this helps your agenda?

Still sore that Israel is as popular as a wet fart in an astronaut suit here?

You guys are sooooo lame.
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Sounds like they got that High Quality Mental Heath workin too. Methadrine the prescription of choice for touretts nowadays?
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I am not a fan of anything with the name *social* in it but socialized medicine is a must for a country.

Example ?

Accident, left knee had to be operated.

Full narcose OP, 7 days hospital, 2 months without being able to go to work.

Costs for me:

About 100 Euro (hospital - daily fees) and about 150 Euro for medicine (5 Euro per prescription, to avoid abuse of meds)

And:

Could return to my job after 2 months .
Got money for the time i wasn´t able to make money.


Need a Dentist ?
0 Euro

Need a .... ?

Well, i have to admit, i (and my boss) pay around 300 euros per month for medicare.
Money i have to make for my company first !


But: A medical problem in a socialized system can never threaten your existence.

That is worth the money.

You can have an accident, need an op just tomorrow !
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