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Tornado Disaster Timing 12-10-2021? Ophiuchus was ERASED from the Greek Zodiac by a Roman Emperor! Now we can understand WHY?

 
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With the very tragic news this morning concerning the HISTORIC
tornado outbreak in several states last night. The outbreak not ONLY hit multiple states...destroyed an entire town (Mayfield, Missouri)
...leveled a nursing home and collapsed a huge Amazon Warehouse
...trapping workers inside even NOW (a terrible developing news story today)...
Thread: SHTF: AMAZON warehouse collapse: Hit by tornado/straight line winds. Edwardsville, IL. CLIMATE CHANGE in 5...4...3


NOW perhaps we can finally understand
why
the ancient fathers decided to ERASE the sign of Ophiuchus
from the Greek ZODIAC and create a new one without HIM (the "Tropical Zodiac.")

Below is only ONE ancient piece of artwork among 1,000s--evidence of this agenda to alter a sacred Zodiac which had been in place since Egyptians invented it at least 12,000 years ago. This incredible life-like Helenistic sculpture of the "Agony of Ophiuchus" (which the Vatican calls "Laocoon and sons"--probably to distance themselves from the Zodiac and Ophiuchus) was deliberately buried by the Romans:


:PrintLaocoon:
Info about the sculpture:
[link to pictura-prints.com (secure)]
Lithograph version of Ophiuchus as "Laocoon & Sons"
standing prominently in front of the famous architecture
of Greece...The ruler following them--The Romans--deliberately
BURIED the sculpture and erased the sign it was designed
to portray in AGONY!


We currently have registered 35 "OPHIUCHUS watch MATCHES" for
unprecedented "bad news"
during what is considered historically
to be the OPHIUCHUS-EFFECT-TIMELINE in my thread link
below--AND WE STILL HAVE A WEEK PLUS TO GO IN "O":
Thread: Update Pg. 9: THE SUN? BRACE!...brace!...brace!...Mars squares Saturn w/"Ophiuchus Effect" now thru Easter!


END EDITS

eqeqeq
HEY! What was THAT? Did you guys feel that?
Was it the West Coast "big one" finally hitting us?
ANSWER:
"No...Not the West Coast quake (but standby...we are
in OPHIUCHUS and anything can happen!) It's the accumulation
of THIRTY-FIVE and counting "BAD news items" and a
TORNADO hitting Amazon being the latest!"


I have been researching the history of zodiac sign "Ophiuchus"
for the last week--plus making updates on the WATCH thread
for Unusual "dark news items due to Ophiuchus influence"
but had to post this thread this A.M. with the news of this
horrific tornado "event" just breaking news this morning.
Greeks KNEW ABOUT this timeline (Nov-Dec.) and embraced the
"doom" with the Ophiuchus sign. But...some after them were
NOT so much into providing their citizens with WARNINGS.

DID THE ROMANS HOPE TO "ESCAPE AGONY" BY ERASING OPHIUCHUS?

"AGONY" can only describe what humanity has witnessed
since the beginning of November 2021 and going into
the END OF DECEMBER. Is there some kind of strange "energy"
associated with this timeline? We have 35 matches to
the thread "WATCH" for the influence of Ophiuchus on news
items for 2021...I think there is NO DOUBT the O-effect
is a negative one!


Do we NOW FINALLY understand why the Romans decided to
DELIBERATELY BURY images and sculptures depicting
"OPHIUCHUS" when they ERASED it from the Tropical Zodiac?

OphiBURIED
Thread: Does the Bank of America Mural (with "a predictive message") have a "cousin Mural?" Let's Look!

This image created by Benjamin Long, Jr.--the famous artist who created the
Bank of America Mural (BOA Headquarters in Charlotte, NC)--
called "ART WITHIN ART" is found at the Wingate University Museum
in N.Carolina. You can see the farmers in the 1500's
Italy vineyard digging up the statue of Ophiuchus (which
was supposedly named "Laocoon and Sons") after the Roman
Caesar Augustus ordered it buried and Ophiuchus ERASED from
the former Greek Zodiac.

Look at the far RIGHT SIDE of the mural image:
OphiBURIED
"Art within Art" by Benjamin Long, jr.
Ophiuchus sculpture is discovered BURIED by farmers
in the 1500's...The sculpture was purchased by the
VATICAN around 1509! They surely knew this "influence!"
Related GLP thread on this mural:

Thread: Does the Bank of America Mural (with "a predictive message") have a "cousin Mural?" Let's Look!

The Ophiuchus-influence window (between November and late
December of the year)...was historically filled with such
"AGONY" they went so far as to create a brand new ZODIAC
to get rid of it! Augustus called this new one the "Tropical Zodiac"
as opposed to its "original Greek zodiac called "The Sideral Zodiac" containing O.)

UNTIL I was able to actually "track" the news items in
this thread of the "Ophiuchus-Effect" (this year including
Mars Square Saturn and Saturn square Uranus)...I didn't
really GRASP how really "doomy" the Ophiuchus timeline
really CAN BE! JFK was assassinated in the O-effect...as
was the bombing of Pearl Harbor. THE ROMAN WERE RIGHT TO
ERASE THIS GUY...He is NASTY!

This is how the ancient Greeks SAW THE OPHIUCHUS TIMELINE
(late November into mid-December--our current timeline...Uh oh!):

OphiuchusSNAKE
This is the sculpture of an agonizing Ophiuchus
which was deliberately BURIED by the ancient Romans
following their erasing the zodiac sign 2,000 years ago.

Perhaps Augustus had good intentions...after all you really
don't want to celebrate Christmas with such a "doomy"
figure in the wings. Maybe it was the coming Christianity
which was the motivation to erase Ophiuchus--we will never
be told. But I would be much more cautious about these
weeks in late November/December than I had before.

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So, We have another WEEK in Ophiuchus (Sidereal Zodiac)
sign...DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE REALLY BAD NEWS?


And...we have a "SATURN SQUARE" coming up Christmas Eve.
Any ideas ON THAT ONE?

Just curious!

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EDITED: 12-11-2021

With the very tragic news this morning concerning the
tornado outbreak last night that not ONLY hit a nursing
home...but took down an Amazon Warehouse in Mo...trapping
workers inside (a developing news story today)...
Thread: SHTF: AMAZON warehouse collapse: Hit by tornado/straight line winds. Edwardsville, IL. CLIMATE CHANGE in 5...4...3

Maybe we can finally understand why the ancient fathers
decided to ERASE the sign of Ophiuchus from the ZODIAC
and create a new one without HIM! Below is only ONE ancient
sculpture of the "Agony of Ophiuchus" (which the Vatican
calls "Laocoon and sons"--probably to distance themselves
from Ophiuchus) deliberately buried by the Romans:

:PrintLaocoon:
Lithograph version of Ophiuchus as "Laocoon & Sons"
standing prominently in front of the famous architecture
of Greece...The ruler following them--The Romans--deliberately
BURIED the sculpture and erased the sign it was designed
to portray in AGONY!


We currently have registered 35 "watch MATCHES" for
unprecedented "bad news" during what is considered historically
to be the OPHIUCHUS-EFFECT-TIMELINE in my thread link
below--AND WE STILL HAVE A WEEK PLUS TO GO IN "O":
Thread: Update Pg. 9: THE SUN? BRACE!...brace!...brace!...Mars squares Saturn w/"Ophiuchus Effect" now thru Easter!
END EDITS

eqeqeq
HEY! What was THAT? Did you guys feel that?
Was it the West Coast "big one" finally hitting us?
ANSWER:
"No...Not the West Coast quake (but standby...we are
in OPHIUCHUS and anything can happen!) It's the accumulation
of THIRTY-FIVE and counting "BAD news items" and a
TORNADO hitting Amazon being the latest!

DID THE ROMANS HOPE TO "ESCAPE AGONY" BY ERASING OPHIUCHUS?

"AGONY" can only describe what humanity has witnessed
since the beginning of November 2021 and going into
the END OF DECEMBER. Is there some kind of strange "energy"
associated with this timeline? We have 35 matches to
the thread "WATCH" for the influence of Ophiuchus on news
items for 2021...I think there is NO DOUBT the O-effect
is a negative one!


Do we NOW FINALLY understand why the Romans decided to
DELIBERATELY BURY images and sculptures depicting
"OPHIUCHUS" when they ERASED it from the Tropical Zodiac?

:OphiBURIED:
Thread: Does the Bank of America Mural (with "a predictive message") have a "cousin Mural?" Let's Look!

This image created by Benjamin Long, Jr.--the famous artist who created the
Bank of America Mural (BOA Headquarters in Charlotte, NC)--
called "ART WITHIN ART" is found at the Wingate University Museum
in N.Carolina. You can see the farmers in the 1500's
Italy vineyard digging up the statue of Ophiuchus (which
was supposedly named "Laocoon and Sons") after the Roman
Caesar Augustus ordered it buried and Ophiuchus ERASED from
the former Greek Zodiac.

Look at the far RIGHT SIDE of the mural image:
:OphiBURIED:
"Art within Art" by Benjamin Long, jr.
Ophiuchus sculpture is discovered BURIED by farmers
in the 1500's...The sculpture was purchased by the
VATICAN around 1509! They surely knew this "influence!"
Related GLP thread on this mural:

Thread: Does the Bank of America Mural (with "a predictive message") have a "cousin Mural?" Let's Look!

The Ophiuchus-influence window (between November and late
December of the year)...was historically filled with such
"AGONY" they went so far as to create a brand new ZODIAC
to get rid of it! Augustus called this new one the "Tropical Zodiac"
as opposed to its "original Greek zodiac called "The Sideral Zodiac" containing O.)

UNTIL I was able to actually "track" the news items in
this thread of the "Ophiuchus-Effect" (this year including
Mars Square Saturn and Saturn square Uranus)...I didn't
really GRASP how really "doomy" the Ophiuchus timeline
really CAN BE! JFK was assassinated in the O-effect...as
was the bombing of Pearl Harbor. THE ROMAN WERE RIGHT TO
ERASE THIS GUY...He is NASTY!

This is how the ancient Greeks SAW THE OPHIUCHUS TIMELINE:

:OphiuchusSNAKE:

I'd say that SCULPTURE (from approx. 300 A.D.)
about sums it up!

cheers
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Thank you I needed to understand this so much!

Excellent post. Your helping some of us out here. Thank you.
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The problem with trying to obliterate suffering by removing the sign, is it doesn't really stop the force, it just buries it where it festers.

One of the main problems of the modern economic and governmental systems is there is no jubilees, no resets of the debt, no times of misrule. The kings, merchants and priests, think it can go on forever, ever upward and it will never come down.
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”

Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs
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In the end every living being has to pay Saturn; the reapers, due. Except maybe for enoch; they say.
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”

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The problem with trying to obliterate suffering by removing the sign, is it doesn't really stop the force, it just buries it where it festers.

One of the main problems of the modern economic and governmental systems is there is no jubilees, no resets of the debt, no times of misrule. The kings, merchants and priests, think it can go on forever, ever upward and it will never come down.
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wOW! Great post...you are so correct.

You know that the solar system RECEIVES energies
from the in-flow of "intergalactic winds"--making this
area along the Milky Way's Dark Rift particularly
important. Ophiuchus is the THIRD CONSTELLATION in the
triangle the "pointing constellations" of Sagittarius,
Scorpius and Ophiuchus triangulate as you can see below:

inflow

I'm thinking that PART of the reason the timeline for
Ophiuchus was ERASED (and the Vatican bought up all the
image/artwork including "Laocon and his Sons Sculpture")
...was ALSO because they know that the probable timeline for
the Earth's next poleshift and solar micro-nova is during
the weeks of OPHIUCHUS. It has happened before and some
ancient writings and myths have survived (EXCEPT FOR THE
SPECIFIC DATES!)

Douglas Vogt explains how this solar micro-nova has been
rediscovered (although he doesn't mention Ophiuchus)...
you might want to check this video out:

Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 hr. plus. (First 5 minutes will tell you ENOUGH
to keep watching!)

Just a thought!

Thanks for your excellent comment!

cheers
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In the end every living being has to pay Saturn; the reapers, due. Except maybe for enoch; they say.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


True story there...

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The problem with trying to obliterate suffering by removing the sign, is it doesn't really stop the force, it just buries it where it festers.

One of the main problems of the modern economic and governmental systems is there is no jubilees, no resets of the debt, no times of misrule. The kings, merchants and priests, think it can go on forever, ever upward and it will never come down.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


wOW! Great post...you are so correct.

I'm thinking that PART of the reason the timeline for
Ophiuchus was ERASED (and the Vatican bought up all the
image/artwork including "Laocon and his Sons Sculpture")
...was ALSO because they know that the probable timeline for
the Earth's next poleshift and solar micro-nova is during
the weeks of OPHIUCHUS. It has happened before and some
ancient writings and myths have survived (EXCEPT FOR THE
SPECIFIC DATES!)

Douglas Vogt explains how this solar micro-nova has been
rediscovered (although he doesn't mention Ophiuchus)...
you might want to check this video out:

Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 hr. plus. (First 5 minutes will tell you ENOUGH
to keep watching!)

Just a thought!

Thanks for your excellent comment!

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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I am not really sold on the pole shift idea or that it will be as dramatic as people think, if it did, but I will check it out. Thanks.

cheers
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”

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Very interesting O's! Wish we could go back in time and find out what really happened in earth's history!
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Very interesting O's! Wish we could go back in time and find out what really happened in earth's history!
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Maybe we really don't want to KNOW the whole story,
BigD!

The Romans decided SOMETHING was bad enough in our history
that they decided to ALTER THE ZODIAC (which had been
sacred for 100's of years BEFORE them.)

Then there is Velikovksi's theory that the human race
has deliberate "amnesia" because some of our space weather
history was SO GRIM that people "...made themselves FORGET."
(This is on the "collective scale" of humanity...much like
the mind will BLOCK OUT events which the mind cannot deal
with--either temporarily or permanently.)

Here is a video of that great "rogue scientist" of the
50's/60's who made HUGE WAVES in the science community
but was essentially SHUT OUT:


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
FairUSE (Education/discussion)
The entire video is well worth watching. I would
recommend the first 20 minutes, then skip over to
the last 8 minutes from the 49:00 min mark.


Fast-forward to the 49:00 min mark to listen to Dr.
Immanuel Velikovsky (in his own words) explain the critical
importance for humanity to recognize the collective "trauma of our past
in the 9,500 b.c. catastrophe." (Doulas Vogt has since come FORWARD 2018
with what exactly that 9,500 b.c. "event" really involved in his
"Solar Micro-nova Theory.)

Velikovsky explains at that 49:00 min mark that even
though this is long long past history--even CURRENT HUMANITY
has a "genetic memory" OF THE GREAT DISASTERS to which he
speaks...and he believes this is WHY humanity is so violent.
In his theory...he explains that just like in ANY "repressed"
memory of the human mind, we will attempt to REPEAT the
event in our lives until we can finally integrate that
event into our psyche. It is why we go to WAR over and over
--so to come to some kind of resolution about the repeated
violent RESET of this planet into which we are BORN.
(Now...THAT IS SOME THEORY, alright!)



More here in my 2015 thread:
Thread: Was it Carl Jung's Dying Wish to Support "Rogue Doom Scientist " Velikovsky with Secret Book? Big Up-date Pg.5! Videos

Thanks for the post--and HI!

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The problem with trying to obliterate suffering by removing the sign, is it doesn't really stop the force, it just buries it where it festers.

One of the main problems of the modern economic and governmental systems is there is no jubilees, no resets of the debt, no times of misrule. The kings, merchants and priests, think it can go on forever, ever upward and it will never come down.
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


wOW! Great post...you are so correct.

I'm thinking that PART of the reason the timeline for
Ophiuchus was ERASED (and the Vatican bought up all the
image/artwork including "Laocon and his Sons Sculpture")
...was ALSO because they know that the probable timeline for
the Earth's next poleshift and solar micro-nova is during
the weeks of OPHIUCHUS. It has happened before and some
ancient writings and myths have survived (EXCEPT FOR THE
SPECIFIC DATES!)

Douglas Vogt explains how this solar micro-nova has been
rediscovered (although he doesn't mention Ophiuchus)...
you might want to check this video out:

Thread: Greatest Secret of the United States, Causes of the Ice Age and Nova,


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
1 hr. plus. (First 5 minutes will tell you ENOUGH
to keep watching!)

Just a thought!

Thanks for your excellent comment!

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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I am not really sold on the pole shift idea or that it will be as dramatic as people think, if it did, but I will check it out. Thanks.

cheers
 Quoting: themessengernevermatters


Next post (under yours) might help you with that...

cheers
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Here is another source--besides just the "general doom
timeline for Ophiuchus"--that being an excellent analysis
of the DECEMBER zodiac charts (both with and without
Ophiuchus.) You might want to dive into this a little
deeper if the WILD WEATHER EVENTS are affecting you this
week. It explains a great deal.


NOTE:
The "parting thoughts" from Chris McCleary's video
below..."DECEMBER IS GOING TO GET "UGLY!" (Be sure
to get EXTRA SLEEP during December's bad news...and
remember to be "the observer" as much as po0ssible to
keep from being dragged into the "negative VIBE coming in!")
(Good idea!)



[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
At the 8:40 min mark the Narrator for this very
accurate astrology site talks about THIS WEEK IN
PARTICULAR being pretty chaotic. He says..."WATCH
OUT BETWEEN DECEMBER 11TH THRU CHRISTMAS..."
BE SURE TO CHECK OUT HIS COMMENTS FOR "JUST BEFORE
CHRISTMAS" 1/2-way thru the video. At 31:00 min mark
--bringing in the ICHING and the "Sidereal Astrology"
(that's the one that INCLUDES Ophiuchus)...he shows us JANUARY 7TH
ends the "SATURN SQUARE" (CHAOS) INFLUENCE...
IMPORTANT STUFF ALSO HERE AT 12:00 MINUTE MARK! WOW!

You can check out Chris McCleary's Youtube channel
Below is the LINK:

Chris McCleary's "Cerf" (as in Surf) report:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Some very interesting information about mid-December
from Chris and an actual presentation of the ASTROLOGY
CHART (Tropical Astrology, not the "Sideral Astrology"
which includes the sign Ophiuchus.)

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Oh yeah...This will end up badly...A COMET in the
timeline of Ophiuchus?...WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

Thread: Once in A lifetime View of Comet Leonard This Weekend !

LOUISfacepalm

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This is just unbelievable. Tornado damage right now in
Kentucky--Drone fly over.


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4 Minute duration.

Generous folks on GLP might wish to check this out
(REMEMBER that the "FEMA folks" didn't show up for a
few of the last disasters in the U.S....Many of these guys
are going to be "on their own.")
:
Thread: Affected by 12/10 tornado? Need help? Check in here.

verysad
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Published December 8th...an UPDATE from the video
narrator in my above post:


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Chris McCleary gives us another update to the
December "dark winter" astrology--and our need to
be INFORMED...but AT PEACE (be the "observer" he says)
with what Ophiuchus and the Saturn Square is going to
throw our way.

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Re: Tornado Disaster Timing 12-10-2021? Ophiuchus was ERASED from the Greek Zodiac by a Roman Emperor! Now we can understand WHY?
So, We have another WEEK in Ophiuchus (Sidereal Zodiac)
sign...DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE REALLY BAD NEWS?


And...we have a "SATURN SQUARE" coming up Christmas Eve.
Any ideas ON THAT ONE?

Just curious!

cheers
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Mt Isis is in the first letters of the lines this musical observer wrote on what they think will happen, or want to happen, maybe it's their religion or what happens when they are losing their religion,

Saturn is orbiting nothing
is off on its own
is breaking from home.
Saturn return when you chase down its moons
Throw them into a new gravity.


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A grand dream to remember,here am I, a mere member.

A me remember, lol. :)
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So, We have another WEEK in Ophiuchus (Sidereal Zodiac)
sign...DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE REALLY BAD NEWS?


And...we have a "SATURN SQUARE" coming up Christmas Eve.
Any ideas ON THAT ONE?

Just curious!

cheers
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 Quoting: The Oracle's Cookie


Mt Isis is in the first letters of the lines this musical observer wrote on what they think will happen, or want to happen, maybe it's their religion or what happens when they are losing their religion,

Saturn is orbiting nothing
is off on its own
is breaking from home.
Saturn return when you chase down its moons
Throw them into a new gravity.


-REM
A grand dream to remember,here am I, a mere member.

A me remember, lol. :)
 Quoting: FrankveryFrank


Interesting, Frank!...

That's just ALL we need right now is for Saturn to
"break free" of its current orbit and go "rogue!"

Velikovsky theorized that Venus has actually left its
orbit before (don't know if THAT was ever confirmed or
not.) Here is a report on that from the BBC in the 1970's
when they started to realize some of what this great
"rogue scientist/psychiatrist"--a friend of Carl Jung's
(but kept a secret)--for decades.


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
(BBC Presentation on Immanuel Velikovsky)
Venus is mentioned at the 1:15 Min Mark in
the introduction. Narrator calls it "...a cosmic
billiard shot in the Heavens." (Wonder if that happened around
Nov/December in whatever year that would have been!)
This supposedly happened around 4,000 years ago. The
Solar Micro-Nova happened 12,000 years ago--so was a
different "cosmic disaster" than Doug Vogt theorized
about.


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Great thread, O's C!! I remember you wondering about that half buried statue in Long's mural at Wingate U.

I dabble in several methods of astrology, specialize in one and so my knowledge of Ophiuchus is scratch-the-surface. Especially as to why it was dropped. What you laid out makes total sense and yet as another discerning commenter said that just b/c you choose to ignore doesn't mean it just goes away. Hell, that last part pretty much puts it all in a nutshell as to the masses right now walking the globe unfortunately.

I was up after midnight tracking those killer twisters. Got kin out in Arkansas and TN areas but they got lucky last night.

Funny how I have been thinking about the destruction out there from last night and how Doug Vogt was in one of those videos (and I think in his old book you have now, too) the spooky physics of tornadoes. Like on a quantum level. Which I've seen firsthand shit confirming the craziness of how tornadoes act. Science and meteorology still can't figure out these totally but have gotten better w/ warning systems over the decades.

As to whether last night was all 100% Mother Nature or was given a helpin' hand from evil people, we'll really never know for sure. But I can tell you that I drank heavily and smoked like a chimney tracking late last night. All the while thinking about how this sort of shit is just gonna' be par for the course from here on out. Weather everywhere going wild-weasel.

In fact, watch for same sort of weather to the west and north of me now in NC. Everyone today was commenting that today it felt like twister weather.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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So, We have another WEEK in Ophiuchus (Sidereal Zodiac)
sign...DO YOU THINK THERE WILL BE MORE REALLY BAD NEWS?


And...we have a "SATURN SQUARE" coming up Christmas Eve.
Any ideas ON THAT ONE?

Just curious!

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
 Quoting: The Oracle's Cookie


Mt Isis is in the first letters of the lines this musical observer wrote on what they think will happen, or want to happen, maybe it's their religion or what happens when they are losing their religion,

Saturn is orbiting nothing
is off on its own
is breaking from home.
Saturn return when you chase down its moons
Throw them into a new gravity.


-REM
A grand dream to remember,here am I, a mere member.

A me remember, lol. :)
 Quoting: FrankveryFrank


Just thought this would be a good tune for the thread:

R.E.M. "Everybody hurts...sometime."


[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
R.E.M. live in London 2003. Words to take
to heart during these weeks ahead...

cheers
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Great thread, O's C!! I remember you wondering about that half buried statue in Long's mural at Wingate U.

I dabble in several methods of astrology, specialize in one and so my knowledge of Ophiuchus is scratch-the-surface. Especially as to why it was dropped. What you laid out makes total sense and yet as another discerning commenter said that just b/c you choose to ignore doesn't mean it just goes away. Hell, that last part pretty much puts it all in a nutshell as to the masses right now walking the globe unfortunately.

I was up after midnight tracking those killer twisters. Got kin out in Arkansas and TN areas but they got lucky last night.

Funny how I have been thinking about the destruction out there from last night and how Doug Vogt was in one of those videos (and I think in his old book you have now, too) the spooky physics of tornadoes. Like on a quantum level. Which I've seen firsthand shit confirming the craziness of how tornadoes act. Science and meteorology still can't figure out these totally but have gotten better w/ warning systems over the decades.

As to whether last night was all 100% Mother Nature or was given a helpin' hand from evil people, we'll really never know for sure. But I can tell you that I drank heavily and smoked like a chimney tracking late last night. All the while thinking about how this sort of shit is just gonna' be par for the course from here on out. Weather everywhere going wild-weasel.

In fact, watch for same sort of weather to the west and north of me now in NC. Everyone today was commenting that today it felt like twister weather.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


Hey Zen!

Yeah...I hear ya.

We have BLIZZARD WARNINGS up for tonight and tomorrow
in NW Montana...so the weather is going to be "wild"
all over the U.S.A. this weekend. And then there's a
COMET heading our way...so lots on our plates!

Good to see ya--and YES! We did talk about what the
"digging" deal was in that right side of the Benjamin Long
Mural when we looked into that artwork awhile back.

Here it is again:

OphiBURIED
The "Agony" sculpture is in a trench below
the farmers at far right of the image. I had NO IDEA
when I first looked at this artwork that it had
anything at all to do with Ophiuchus. The images in
the mural are all "buried history" images...The burning
of the Library of Alexandria (by Julius Ceasar)...the
cave paintings in France (said to have been painted by
the survivors of the last solar micro-nova who WERE
"modern" even 12,000 years ago)...the TSUNAMI at the
bottom of the painting...and the statue on the right.
Very interesting symbolism.

Long painted the image as a 3-in-1 mural just like
he did the Bank of America mural. He patterned it after
Davinci, actually who was into the "Triptych" of the
3-in-1.

Thanks for the post...GLAD YOUR RELATIVES "LUCKED OUT"
WITH THE TORNADOES. Going to watch National News tonight
and see what they say about it--should have video footage
for sure. (It's going to be really bad when they finally
get all the info together on this event.)

We had a BIG gamma ray burst today as well...could have
explained the massive amount of geomagnetic energy in the
atmosphere last night, too. Here's the info:
[link to earthboppin.net]
and
[link to gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]


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Soo I am trying to figure out how to pronounce "OPHIUCHUS" and decided the best was "OH FUCK US" as in we be fucked.
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I was happy with being on the cusp of Sag. Ten years ago found myself to be a Snake with Scorpion traits.
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I was happy with being on the cusp of Sag. Ten years ago found myself to be a Snake with Scorpion traits.
 Quoting: Zeldannie


Well...Don't feel badly...

If I had been "clued-in on the OPHIUCHUS traits" I
probably would never have married my 1st husband!
Seriously!

WreckONaWreck

The folks in this sign (NO OFFENSE if you are Ophiuchus)
have "magical charm and charisma"...seem to be really
deeply caring/compassionate...yet for whatever reason their stuff
ALL GOES "SOUTH" eventually.
I used to call our marriage
"A WRECK on a WRECK" because of the Ophiuchus influence
as well as (both of our) personal "flaws."

OPHI13

Of all the Sidereal Zodiac Signs...it is Ophiuchus who has the MOST
WORK to do on their consciousness (but also have the greatest
talents to be ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IT in one lifetime
.) I
speak from experience--not from book learning about it.

I believe some of it is "personal"...but I ALSO believe
that Ophiuchus folks carry the "atmosphere" of Ophiuchus
with them into their daily lives (unless they KNOW about
the sign and WORK THRU it's challenges in a deliberate
conscious way.)

Good luck with your "journey" as an Ophiuchian!
I would love to hear any other personal experiences either
AS a Ophiuchian...or personal contact with a person of
that sign.

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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Soo I am trying to figure out how to pronounce "OPHIUCHUS" and decided the best was "OH FUCK US" as in we be fucked.
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Bwhaaaaaaa!!! Don't care who you are, that's funny shit!! Thx for that, AC. If we didn't LOL once in a while we'd be crying in our cups all the time.

I think I will always pronounce it that way from here on out!
lolsign
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Soo I am trying to figure out how to pronounce "OPHIUCHUS" and decided the best was "OH FUCK US" as in we be fucked.
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First of all...as I explain in the post above...
NO ZODIAC SIGN whether "Tropical Zodiac" or the
one containing the Ophiuchus sign "Sidereal Zodiac"
is F'd. (Unless you believe yourself to be so.)

,...And next...pronounce the word "Oh...FEW...U...CUS"
not...Oh...what you said.

Always the aspect of ANY SIGN has its POLARITY. You can
be the sign of Gemini (which I believed I was for years
and years until I found out I was adopted...how fun is that?)
...and believe you are the POSITIVE traits of the Gemini
sign---adaptable, able to see BOTH SIDES of an issue...
look for the "good" in people to the point of being gullible
...OR THE NEGATIVE ASPECTS...Prone to being a "drama queen"
...having shallow relationships, etc. Those are EXTREMES
of the sign.

Ophiuchus as has really POSITIVE aspects as well...
you need to do some research into this if you are curious.
(I won't give you a print-out...part of the joy is learning
this yourself.)

cheers
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Soo I am trying to figure out how to pronounce "OPHIUCHUS" and decided the best was "OH FUCK US" as in we be fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80551139


Bwhaaaaaaa!!! Don't care who you are, that's funny shit!! Thx for that, AC. If we didn't LOL once in a while we'd be crying in our cups all the time.

I think I will always pronounce it that way from here on out!
lolsign
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Zenobia...don't pander!

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I was happy with being on the cusp of Sag. Ten years ago found myself to be a Snake with Scorpion traits.
 Quoting: Zeldannie


Well...Don't feel badly...

If I had been "clued-in on the OPHIUCHUS traits" I
probably would never have married my 1st husband!
Seriously!

:WreckONaWreck:

The folks in this sign (NO OFFENSE if you are Ophiuchus)
have "magical charm and charisma"...seem to be really
deeply caring/compassionate...yet for whatever reason their stuff
ALL GOES "SOUTH" eventually.
I used to call our marriage
"A WRECK on a WRECK" because of the Ophiuchus influence
as well as (both of our) personal "flaws."

:OPHI13:

Of all the Sidereal Zodiac Signs...it is Ophiuchus who has the MOST
WORK to do on their consciousness (but also have the greatest
talents to be ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH IT in one lifetime
.) I
speak from experience--not from book learning about it.

I believe some of it is "personal"...but I ALSO believe
that Ophiuchus folks carry the "atmosphere" of Ophiuchus
with them into their daily lives (unless they KNOW about
the sign and WORK THRU it's challenges in a deliberate
conscious way.)

Good luck with your "journey" as an Ophiuchian!
I would love to hear any other personal experiences either
AS a Ophiuchian...or personal contact with a person of
that sign.

cheers
The Oracle's Cookie
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Ophiuchus here....
Learn by making mistakes, the hard way.
Lots of broken bones, lots of stitches, lots of accidents.
Choose a hermetic lifestyle after 50 to find some rest.
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Soo I am trying to figure out how to pronounce "OPHIUCHUS" and decided the best was "OH FUCK US" as in we be fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80551139


Bwhaaaaaaa!!! Don't care who you are, that's funny shit!! Thx for that, AC. If we didn't LOL once in a while we'd be crying in our cups all the time.

I think I will always pronounce it that way from here on out!
lolsign
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Re: Tornado Disaster Timing 12-10-2021? Ophiuchus was ERASED from the Greek Zodiac by a Roman Emperor! Now we can understand WHY?
Interesting that this comes very soon after the Julian calendar is introduced by his father (if my speed-research is accurate... within a few decades?). And of course... the switchover from BC to AD.

All of these changes together serve to confuse the timeline quite considerably.





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