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Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO

 
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Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
The British Empire at its height couldn’t do it and nor could the Soviet Union. Now Washington’s efforts in Afghanistan are faltering as the western allies begin to bicker


Germany Rejects U.S. Request for More Afghan Troops
Andreas Cremer and Patrick Donahue – Bloomberg February 1, 2008

The German government rejected a U.S. request to provide more troops to combat Taliban insurgents in southern Afghanistan, saying that ministers were ``surprised'' by the demand.

``The letter came as a surprise to us,'' Ulrich Wilhelm, Chancellor Angela Merkel's chief spokesman, told a regular news conference in Berlin today. ``The government has made clear that the existing mandate provides the basis for our engagement.'' The government ``has no plans'' to change the mandate as approved by the lower house of parliament, or Bundestag.

Germany has explained to its partners in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization that its mandate limits military involvement to northern Afghanistan, Wilhelm said, adding that the terms of German involvement in the country is ``not negotiable.''

Wilhelm's comments follow a report in the Sueddeutsche Zeitung newspaper today that U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates wrote to his German counterpart, Franz Josef Jung, last week asking for additional combat troops and helicopter support in southern Afghanistan.

``I keep to the view that we should continue and fulfill our mandate in Afghanistan,'' Jung said today in a televised statement. ``I believe our focus should continue to be in the north.''

Seeking Help

NATO allies such as the U.S., U.K., the Netherlands and Canada, whose troops are stationed in the more violent south, have stepped up calls to other alliance members to send in more combat troops. Last month eight countries with troops in the south met in Edinburgh to discuss getting more contributions from other nations.

``I'm not here to name countries who aren't pulling their weight – I think people know who they are and they know who they are and I'd rather leave it to others to identify them,'' Australian Defense Minister Joel Fitzgibbon told reporters after the meeting, adding Australian forces wouldn't leave before 2010.

Germany's presence in Afghanistan hinges on parliamentary mandates on the troop presence in the north under the command of NATO's International Security Assistance Force, the deployment of six Tornado surveillance jets and a special-forces unit to assist the U.S.-led counter-insurgency operation.

New Mandate

Any alteration of Germany's presence would require a new or an adjusted mandate by lawmakers in the lower house at a time when most Germans reject sending more soldiers to the country.

Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said the U.S. request for troops was made in some form to all countries involved in the conflict and was not specific to Germany.

Steinmeier said that he briefed U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice last week on Germany's actions to enhance its forces in northern Afghanistan.

``We have accentuated and expanded our civil and military engagement once again,'' Steinmeier told reporters after meeting with Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt in Berlin. ``I believe that will be recognized in the U.S. and so I have no concerns about the way the current discussion is being carried out.''

Jung will explain Germany's position to NATO defense ministers meeting in Vilnius Feb. 7-8, Wilhelm said.

``The chancellor, in all her meetings in parliament and with partners, has made clear that for us the existing mandate is the basis for action,'' Wilhelm said. ``We're carrying out an important job there that is demanding a lot of us.''
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
Maybe it would be fair to ask Israel since it is their territory of concern ...
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02/01/2008 04:21 PM
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
Maybe it would be fair to ask Israel since it is their territory of concern ...
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*GASP*
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02/01/2008 04:27 PM
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
jk FF

so far Britain and Germany has said no? aren't these the same ones asking for more war with other countries? France?
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02/01/2008 04:30 PM
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
WHERE ARE ALL THE "ALLIES" CALLING FOR MORE WAR BUT CAN'T BACK IT UP?
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
Yes ask the French besides Israel themselves ...

I heard their leaders are closely connected anyway, lol.
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02/01/2008 04:46 PM
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
Canada wanted nothing to do with this war in the first place now it looks like the "allies" will leave them hanging


TIME FOR A PULL OUT!
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
one can wonder what the americans are doing there, after the search of herr laden bin did not bring results. at the moment we hear that mostly kids are shot down.
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one can wonder what the americans are doing there, after the search of herr laden bin did not bring results. at the moment we hear that mostly kids are shot down.
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have u ever heard of....poppy?
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
They are all for tightening the screws on Iran.

Germany has called on the other permanent members of the UN Security Council (UNSC) to discuss the imposition of new sanctions on Iran.

German Foreign Ministry Spokesman Martin Jaeger said Berlin believed a new resolution was necessary.

Jaeger said German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his counterparts from the five permanent members of the UNSC were expected to take part but added that no final decision had yet been made.

In his Thursday visit to Vienna, Steinmeier is expected to ask Mohamed ElBaradei about the details of his last week two-day trip to Tehran, during which Iran and the IAEA chief secured a deal to clear up the outstanding questions over a one month period.

[link to www.presstv.ir]
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one can wonder what the americans are doing there, after the search of herr laden bin did not bring results. at the moment we hear that mostly kids are shot down.

have u ever heard of....poppy?
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yup canadians were only there with nato till Harper got in and sent more troops in
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Afghanistan Opium Crop Sets Record
U.S.-Backed Efforts At Eradication Fail

By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 2, 2006; Page A01

Opium production in Afghanistan, which provides more than 90 percent of the world's heroin, broke all records in 2006, reaching a historic high despite ongoing U.S.-sponsored eradication efforts, the Bush administration reported yesterday.

In addition to a 26 percent production increase over past year -- for a total of 5,644 metric tons -- the amount of land under cultivation in opium poppies grew by 61 percent. Cultivation in the two main production provinces, Helmand in the southwest and Oruzgan in central Afghanistan, was up by 132 percent......
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
The German army is bound by constitution to defense only.
This was demanded by the winners of WWII.
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The German army is bound by constitution to defense only.
This was demanded by the winners of WWII.
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Yes that explains the official surprise ...
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Re: Germany 'surprised' by US requests to send more troops to Afghanistan to combat the Taliban, says NO
I recently saw John Kerry saying the perpetrators of 9-11 are regrouping on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border.

So these discussions are the reason we're having Taliban == al Qaeda shoved down our throats again.

Aussie Defense Minister Joel Fitzgibbon gave a hint towards where loyalties of Australia's new KRudd government stand when he said, ``I'm not here to name countries who aren't pulling their weight – I think people know who they are and they know who they are and I'd rather leave it to others to identify them,'' ... adding Australian forces wouldn't leave before 2010.

Looks like the Western swing to the "left" is just going to be more of the same, if not worse.
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