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La Palma volcano update:: Continued Updates & Discussion - 23 quakes today! 01/22

 
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Stopped my tukus….

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I sure was hoping it was done.
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Thanks for the new thread and will be following along too.
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Lots of smoke right now. Wait for the feed to show the vents. Still some day light.

This ain't over yet.
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Magnitude ML 3.2
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 13:24:56.0 UTC
Location 28.58 N ; 17.85 W
Depth 37 km

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Magnitude ML 3.3
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 13:35:16.6 UTC
Location 28.57 N ; 17.84 W
Depth 37 km

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Magnitude ML 3.4
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 15:32:20.5 UTC
Location 28.60 N ; 17.81 W
Depth 36 km

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Magnitude ML 3.4
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 16:47:09.6 UTC
Location 28.58 N ; 17.84 W
Depth 36 km

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Magnitude ML 3.3
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 18:45:29.4 UTC
Location 28.58 N ; 17.83 W
Depth 35 km

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Lots of smoke right now. Wait for the feed to show the vents. Still some day light.

This ain't over yet.
 Quoting: NEX


Sure doesn't look that way now. That was a lot of deep quakes!
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Re: La Palma volcano update:: Continued Updates & Discussion - 23 quakes today! 01/22
Hello Friends :) Just like I said I will help OP in updating the thread.There is currently frequent quake activity in odd places .Mostly two pointers and above in magnitude .In odd places like SW Brena Alta (few quakes today there).And that's closer to old caldera than other quakes. That makes me hmmm spock
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Thank you! hf
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According to Volcano Discovery, there have been 87 quakes today. Yet even on Twitter, everything says there has been no seismic activity. wtf

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According to Volcano Discovery, there have been 87 quakes today. Yet even on Twitter, everything says there has been no seismic activity. wtf

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Is there an eq magnitude threshold you are hovering over when searching?

Ie minimum magnitude 3.5+ when all of these were 3.4 or less.
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According to Volcano Discovery, there have been 87 quakes today. Yet even on Twitter, everything says there has been no seismic activity. wtf

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Is there an eq magnitude threshold you are hovering over when searching?

Ie minimum magnitude 3.5+ when all of these were 3.4 or less.
 Quoting: InfiniTea


That was total quakes. There have been 6 over 3.0.
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According to Volcano Discovery, there have been 87 quakes today. Yet even on Twitter, everything says there has been no seismic activity. wtf

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Is there an eq magnitude threshold you are hovering over when searching?

Ie minimum magnitude 3.5+ when all of these were 3.4 or less.
 Quoting: InfiniTea


That was total quakes. There have been 6 over 3.0.
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Depth for those?
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According to Volcano Discovery, there have been 87 quakes today. Yet even on Twitter, everything says there has been no seismic activity. wtf

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Is there an eq magnitude threshold you are hovering over when searching?

Ie minimum magnitude 3.5+ when all of these were 3.4 or less.
 Quoting: InfiniTea


That was total quakes. There have been 6 over 3.0.
 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Depth for those?
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They were all deep, 35 km and over.
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Is there an eq magnitude threshold you are hovering over when searching?

Ie minimum magnitude 3.5+ when all of these were 3.4 or less.
 Quoting: InfiniTea


That was total quakes. There have been 6 over 3.0.
 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Depth for those?
 Quoting: Humanitarianlike


They were all deep, 35 km and over.
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Thanks.
That potentially could work out to some level of eruptive activity a week from now.
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There's probably a lot of heat still coming off the cone.

This morning several dust devils of sand and ash were photographed on the southern slope of the volcanic building on the island of #LaPalma , a very common phenomenon in volcanic areas.


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Holy Cow! What a shot!

I was witness to the 1980 Mt. St. Helens volcano elruption
and I will NEVER FORGET how it "made its own weather!"

It was awesome and terrifying at the same time...the
power that Nature will sometimes display is humbling.
My 13 year old step-son wouldn't stop play his video game
though...lol!

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Our hero BushCraftBear reports that the scientists say
there needs to be a 10-DAY CALM before they can officially
announce the eruption is over.

I'm hoping it is over, personally....I do NOT want to
see BushCraftBear telling us to "bring in the TOMATOES!"

BushBTomatoes

Thanks for the new thread, Para...5 stars for you
and some "green!"

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Here's a thought. Based on nothing factual, just a casual musing.

Perhaps the more recent volcanic activity (last 5,000 years or so has always been headed to the main cone but came up in other locations due to weaknesses that developed in the main vent.

These weaknesses may not always be above but also horizontal and vertical in the downward direction.

The volcano may simply be done it this particular location as a new path has been found.
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"If, and this is maybe a likely scenario, most of the gasses have already left the system or if the remaining gasses can separate efficiently from the liquid (magma), and rise and degas at the vents and through the surface, the magma will slowly start cooling down and eventually crystallize over a very long period of time.
It is also very much possible that the current pause of the eruption leads to a blockage of the upper conduits, which disables the degassing process and generates conditions that could lead to sudden explosions and allowing probably smaller batches of remaining magma to erupt in short phases of re-activation.
Nobody knows for now - the situation remains volatile and care should be taken to make any predictions of whether activity will resume or not."

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Their mottos never let a tragedy go to waste.

Of course it is the calm before the storm.

Expect the worst, Peay for the best and warn the others. XOXO
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Here's a thought. Based on nothing factual, just a casual musing.

Perhaps the more recent volcanic activity (last 5,000 years or so has always been headed to the main cone but came up in other locations due to weaknesses that developed in the main vent.

These weaknesses may not always be above but also horizontal and vertical in the downward direction.

The volcano may simply be done it this particular location as a new path has been found.
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That makes sense. Most of these deep quakes are along the ridge line. Perhaps magma is moving further north?
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"If, and this is maybe a likely scenario, most of the gasses have already left the system or if the remaining gasses can separate efficiently from the liquid (magma), and rise and degas at the vents and through the surface, the magma will slowly start cooling down and eventually crystallize over a very long period of time.
It is also very much possible that the current pause of the eruption leads to a blockage of the upper conduits, which disables the degassing process and generates conditions that could lead to sudden explosions and allowing probably smaller batches of remaining magma to erupt in short phases of re-activation.
Nobody knows for now - the situation remains volatile and care should be taken to make any predictions of whether activity will resume or not."

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 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


Their mottos never let a tragedy go to waste.

Of course it is the calm before the storm.

Expect the worst, Peay for the best and warn the others. XOXO
 Quoting: AC 74824311


I believe that if TPTB can push this volcano into erupting again, they will! I hope the islanders aren't letting their guard down!

Last Edited by Paranoiaaaaa on 12/16/2021 04:14 PM
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I believe that if TPTB can push this volcano into erupting again, they will! I hope the islanders aren't letting their guard down!
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For once, TPTB cannot control this, even if they have tech we can't even dream about, because thank GOD solar 25 is in charge, and they just don't have all the tech to mitigate all that is coming.

Pay attn: Pacific ring of fire -> SOuth Sandwich -> up the Atlantic Ridge -> Canaries

Pay attn: Mediterrean "partial ring of fire" ->Atalanti fault -> Azores-Gibraltar transform -> straits of Gibraltar -> Canaries

Pay attn: Caribbean plate "ring of fire" connects with mid-Atlantic ridge -> Canaries

There are many more active major fault zones that connect to the Canaries.

Once it has been unleashed by this Sun Cyle 25, it takes on a life of its own, and no one can say anything is over.

They know this, why the Canaries have always been the ones to watch.

Since Atlantis.
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I believe that if TPTB can push this volcano into erupting again, they will! I hope the islanders aren't letting their guard down!
 Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa


For once, TPTB cannot control this, even if they have tech we can't even dream about, because thank GOD solar 25 is in charge, and they just don't have all the tech to mitigate all that is coming.

Pay attn: Pacific ring of fire -> SOuth Sandwich -> up the Atlantic Ridge -> Canaries

Pay attn: Mediterrean "partial ring of fire" ->Atalanti fault -> Azores-Gibraltar transform -> straits of Gibraltar -> Canaries

Pay attn: Caribbean plate "ring of fire" connects with mid-Atlantic ridge -> Canaries

There are many more active major fault zones that connect to the Canaries.

Once it has been unleashed by this Sun Cyle 25, it takes on a life of its own, and no one can say anything is over.

They know this, why the Canaries have always been the ones to watch.

Since Atlantis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80067033


I know Texan Buckeye always watched the Straits of Gibraltar quakes as she thought they were connected.

Thanks for the info!
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She is busy building an island.
Look at how large the first older volcanic mountain is on the map.

She is just getting ready to clear her throat but it should be awesome to watch if anyone is still alive there filming.
I feel bad for the roosters.
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Magnitude ML 3.6
Region CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
Date time 2021-12-16 22:29:07.4 UTC
Location 28.44 N ; 17.77 W
Depth 23 km

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This was off the coast of the eastern tip of the island.

Last Edited by Paranoiaaaaa on 12/16/2021 05:47 PM
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SO2 has been updated from <5t/d to 75t/d.

Non-eruptive, but active volcanoes (like this one currently) do emit gasses.
In fact, about half of the ~90 active volcanoes are non-eruptive with a portion of those emitting gasses.

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SO2 has been updated from <5t/d to 75t/d.

Non-eruptive, but active volcanoes (like this one currently) do emit gasses.
In fact, about half of the ~90 active volcanoes are non-eruptive with a portion of those emitting gasses.
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Yeah, I would expect it to be emitting gas for some time.
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Tremor dropped down some more. But if the deep quakes continue… I expect this to change or ground deformation to become extreme.

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Tremor dropped down some more. But if the deep quakes continue… I expect this to change or ground deformation to become extreme.

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It's a waiting game now.
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Thursday, December 16, 2021 23:50 GMT (108 earthquakes)

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Seismic Activity is all Tectonic

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