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We had COVID, here is what we did ... (They are lying about the Elderberry)

 
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Oatmeal = beta glucan

Eat oatmeal mixed with some elder berry syrup. Tastes great. Very good for you.
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I'll have to look up what beta-glucan is. Lol
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Beta-Glucans for:

Cytokine storm control

Coagulopathy control
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I caught Covid a a few months back and I am in my 60's and type 1 diabetic. I was ill for almost 4 weeks and my oxygen blood levels went down to 88% on one day.

I just got as much sleep as possible and tried to keep hydrated as I was off my food.

I take multivitamins and mineral supplements everyday and try to stay active by walking and cycling.

My immune system won over in the end as it will with most people, it was very much like a dose of the flu.

edit - forgot to say, I have had no vaccine as I would rather rely on my immune system.

Another 10 years and I might think differently and risk the jab.

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Re: We had COVID, here is what we did ... (They are lying about the Elderberry)
Elderberry is great for boosting the immune system. There is no reason to avoid it. The only reason people say to avoid it is because when COVID goes bad it's because of a cytokine storm, which is an overactive immune system.

But if you boost your immune system early, you avoid the cytokine storm. Also, the cytokine storm doesn't hit until around day 10 of symptoms. So take the elderberry early and stop after 5 or 6 days and then there's no chance of the elderberry making the cytokine storm worse.
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Too much sugar, high fructose in Store bought elderberry.

Can you recommend?
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Yeah I made some elderberry syrup, went WAY overboard with sugar. It is delicious though, was thinking of dumping it into a bucket and making wine but I still have several gallons of that so I'll hang on to it. It's canned in jars, it's not going to go bad.

Elderberries are a huge pain in the ass to clean though and if you simmer them you get the green slime. Vegetable oil is the ONLY thing I ever found that could remove it.
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Elderberry is contraindicated if you are already severely ill from a virus as it will promote the production and circulation of inflammatory cytokines at a time when that can hurt rather than help.

Elderberry is excellent in the beginning stages though, as OP has proven.
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This is so interesting to know !
I planted bushes and harvested my first batches this past summer . Knew how medicinal it , is but wondered why I never heard it included in the COVID arsenal
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You can stop wondering. It's bc they didnt want you to know. :(
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Oatmeal = beta glucan

Eat oatmeal mixed with some elder berry syrup. Tastes great. Very good for you.
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I'll have to look up what beta-glucan is. Lol
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Beta-Glucans for:

Cytokine storm control

Coagulopathy control
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Now THAT is some useful info! I'm worried about my mom and clots.

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5 out of the 6 members of my home got COVID.

My son's fiance visited from school a couple weekends ago. While she was here, she woke up sick. She left and was subsequently dx'd with COVID.

A couple days later, my son got sick. Not good bc he has Type 1 Diabetes. It quickly went from him, to my elderly father and mother, then my other son and lastly, my daughter. I seem to have been spared.

I think COVID is the Flu, so I treated it as such.

I immediately began them on a regimen of Oscillococcinum and Elderberry Syrup.

I know they recommend to not use Elderberry for COVID, but after researching it more, I felt comfortable using it. Also, I am at the point that if they tell me to go left, I'm going right. Lol

The Oscillo was VERY effective in reducing the severity of the symptoms. Some spent one day in bed, others two, but no more than that.

Bc of these products, for everyone (except my father) it was like a severe cold or a mild flu. Even for my Type 1 diabetic son, who has been hospitalized twice for the flu in the past.

About my father ... He REFUSED TO TAKE THE ELDERBERRY.

HE is the ONLY one that is not well and is now struggling with pneumonia.

Incidentally, not only is Elderberry very effective for the flu, but it is especially useful to prevent pneumonia. And the only one who didn't take it, GOT PNEUMONIA.

I have some more info to share, but I need to tend to some chores and wanted to get this post out there in case it is useful for anyone.
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I am so relieved you know it's just the flu. The flu has always been bad--are people really that forgetful?

Thanks for the elderberry advice!
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why in the hell wouldnt he have taken elderberry.

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5 out of the 6 members of my home got COVID.

My son's fiance visited from school a couple weekends ago. While she was here, she woke up sick. She left and was subsequently dx'd with COVID.

A couple days later, my son got sick. Not good bc he has Type 1 Diabetes. It quickly went from him, to my elderly father and mother, then my other son and lastly, my daughter. I seem to have been spared.

I think COVID is the Flu, so I treated it as such.

I immediately began them on a regimen of Oscillococcinum and Elderberry Syrup.

I know they recommend to not use Elderberry for COVID, but after researching it more, I felt comfortable using it. Also, I am at the point that if they tell me to go left, I'm going right. Lol

The Oscillo was VERY effective in reducing the severity of the symptoms. Some spent one day in bed, others two, but no more than that.

Bc of these products, for everyone (except my father) it was like a severe cold or a mild flu. Even for my Type 1 diabetic son, who has been hospitalized twice for the flu in the past.

About my father ... He REFUSED TO TAKE THE ELDERBERRY.

HE is the ONLY one that is not well and is now struggling with pneumonia.

Incidentally, not only is Elderberry very effective for the flu, but it is especially useful to prevent pneumonia. And the only one who didn't take it, GOT PNEUMONIA.

I have some more info to share, but I need to tend to some chores and wanted to get this post out there in case it is useful for anyone.
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


I am so relieved you know it's just the flu. The flu has always been bad--are people really that forgetful?

Thanks for the elderberry advice!
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It became especially clear when the Flu magically DISAPPEARED.
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5 out of the 6 members of my home got COVID.

My son's fiance visited from school a couple weekends ago. While she was here, she woke up sick. She left and was subsequently dx'd with COVID.

A couple days later, my son got sick. Not good bc he has Type 1 Diabetes. It quickly went from him, to my elderly father and mother, then my other son and lastly, my daughter. I seem to have been spared.

I think COVID is the Flu, so I treated it as such.

I immediately began them on a regimen of Oscillococcinum and Elderberry Syrup.

I know they recommend to not use Elderberry for COVID, but after researching it more, I felt comfortable using it. Also, I am at the point that if they tell me to go left, I'm going right. Lol

The Oscillo was VERY effective in reducing the severity of the symptoms. Some spent one day in bed, others two, but no more than that.

Bc of these products, for everyone (except my father) it was like a severe cold or a mild flu. Even for my Type 1 diabetic son, who has been hospitalized twice for the flu in the past.

About my father ... He REFUSED TO TAKE THE ELDERBERRY.

HE is the ONLY one that is not well and is now struggling with pneumonia.

Incidentally, not only is Elderberry very effective for the flu, but it is especially useful to prevent pneumonia. And the only one who didn't take it, GOT PNEUMONIA.

I have some more info to share, but I need to tend to some chores and wanted to get this post out there in case it is useful for anyone.
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl



You don't know what you had.
You realize the pcr test is 97% false positive right?
You most likely had the flu but they call it covid to scare people
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She knows.

I agree with you, too.

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Gin saves lives! I knew it!!
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Gin is from juniper berries.
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Gin and elderberries makes an elderberry tincture.
Most recommend vodka though.

Grandma sure seemed happy when she got sick.
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why in the hell wouldnt he have taken elderberry.

weirdo
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He said it didn't taste good. He accepted NO help and is on the way to the hospital camp now.
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Original Sambucol is from Isreal.

It's great stuff. Get the 25 dollar bottle for long lasting treatments. It's not sweet but you can add honey and lemon and drink it as a tea.
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Thank you for sharing that.
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Melatonin, people, look it up if you don't believe me, bats carry it in vast quantities and they also carry viruses but don't get sick.

Melatonin has been included in all the best protocols for almost two years and clinical trials have already shown good results.

Quercetin and Niacin flush can be used for delivery, as with zinc.

Just get some!
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have you all forgotten TAMIFLU?
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have you all forgotten TAMIFLU?
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No, but you need a prescription for that and I don't give pharma my money for something I can make myself that is better and doesn't give me side effects.

Also, the test was positive for COVID. Tamiflu isn't prescribed for COVID. For that reason alone, it probably does
work and also since COVID is likely the Flu.

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have you all forgotten TAMIFLU?
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No, but you need a prescription for that and I don't give pharma my money for something I can make myself that is better and doesn't give me side effects.

Also, the test was positive for COVID. Tamiflu isn't prescribed for COVID. For that reason alone, it probably works and also since COVID is likely the Flu.
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that's my point, they claimed it worked great against previous sars.. due to it avoiding they cytokine storm.

but somehow they didn't think of using it this time?
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Gin saves lives! I knew it!!
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You are thinking about juniper berry, that’s what gin is infused with
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Elderberry grows wild if your in Florida!
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have you all forgotten TAMIFLU?
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No, but you need a prescription for that and I don't give pharma my money for something I can make myself that is better and doesn't give me side effects.

Also, the test was positive for COVID. Tamiflu isn't prescribed for COVID. For that reason alone, it probably works and also since COVID is likely the Flu.
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that's my point, they claimed it worked great against previous sars.. due to it avoiding they cytokine storm.

but somehow they didn't think of using it this time?
 Quoting: notsofastmr


Lol ... gotcha!

They thought of it. They chose to not use it.

This is really getting disgusting.

They are disgusting people.

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Gin saves lives! I knew it!!
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I drink Jim Beam and I smoke cigarettes. I was the only one who didn't get it. Lol
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LOL
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I had it last year. Used quercetin and zinc, along with D3 and C. As well as asprin/tylenol for fever. Had it for a week, and then was fine. Did not know it was the virus. Thought it was the flu.

Then my husband got it. We ran out of quercetin. He ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Officially diagnosed with the virus. In the hospital for 2 days, fine now.

This year, his son got it and was back to work in four days. We used the ponie [email protected]

If they tell you it doesn't work, well, it probably works.
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Similar experience

I had the stock of recommended things and had written dosages and directions out on the boxes - in case it was me that got sick and hubby had to administer

He’s a tough guy and usually doesn’t say anything until he’s knee deep in pain or sickness

He came and said “What’ave ya got? My chest feels tight and pressured”

Well - he used to get pneumonia every year and never said THAT!

Back in early early Spring 2020

I gave him Pepcid .... (cytokines storms start with MAST CELLS made in the gut )

Then Zinc- Quercetin - Vit D3 - Vit C

Next day not better not worse but a few sniffles

Got out the Ivy - dosed him for 200 Lbs

And Z - Q-D-C same same (no more Pepcid )

Next day not worse and very slightly better

Same doses next day of all -I -Z-Q-D-C

Next day very slightly better



So heavy tight chest was his usual symptom for bronchitis or pneumonia - after a bout with colds and flu

That feeling STARTED this time

Stayed for 4 days of IVY and gone on 5 th - did one more day in case

Dosed myself for protection

This is a guy that’s had lung surgery and bronchitis and pneumonias every year

The Ivy pony paste is a miracle in our book

Cut off every cold and sore throat since in one day ... won’t ever be without it in this house

Don’t tell me neigh
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why the fuck r u speaking in fucking codes say the fucking names of shit
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Just got a good piece of advice. Don't take your Quercetin with your Ivermectin...it blocks absorption. You can take zinc with Ivermectin or Quercetin with zinc but don't take the Quercetin with Ivermectin...leave a gap of 12 hours apparently.
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Elderberry does not exacerbate a cytokine storm. Thats BS.

It assists in mitigating an inflammatory response..which is how you get pneumonia.

You should have your Dad walk around frequently and get a service to administer an IV drip of vitamins and NAD.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79231805


Thank you for the advice. After refusing ALL types of help and suggestions, he is going to the VA hospital on Baltimore.

I believe that this was my narcissistic father's intent all along. He was even refusing food and drink, and it's not bc he is sick. It's bc he wants to get worse for attention. He was thrilled when he was DXD with Pneumonia.

He has been complaining of chapped lips and he EVEN REFUSED CHAPSTICK offered by multiple people in the house, but kept complaining until my mother gave him chapstick and told him to shut up. Lol


He keeps saying he is at deaths door and coughing as loud as he possibly can. I didn't realize one can EMPHASIZE their cough like that. He is THAT desperate for my mother's attention that he won't even take a cough drop. But that's a whole nother thread. Lol

I just needed to vent bc I'm frustrated. I've gotten no sleep and been taking care of FIVE sick people doing my best that they wouldn't go to the hospital and here is my personality disordered father doing everything he could ensure he would go there.

He wasn't even told to go. He is making my mother take him.

She is SO MAD bc it's an hour away and she'll be sitting in the car while she is still getting better herself. He's such an ass sometimes.

Okay ... Rant over. Lol
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I’d drop him off and leave. Let him act like a child on his own time. Or tell him he can stay home and take his meds because she is too sick to take him. Dose him up with some Benadryl and milk and tell him to go to sleep.
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5 out of the 6 members of my home got COVID.

My son's fiance visited from school a couple weekends ago. While she was here, she woke up sick. She left and was subsequently dx'd with COVID.

A couple days later, my son got sick. Not good bc he has Type 1 Diabetes. It quickly went from him, to my elderly father and mother, then my other son and lastly, my daughter. I seem to have been spared.

I think COVID is the Flu, so I treated it as such.

I immediately began them on a regimen of Oscillococcinum and Elderberry Syrup.

I know they recommend to not use Elderberry for COVID, but after researching it more, I felt comfortable using it. Also, I am at the point that if they tell me to go left, I'm going right. Lol

The Oscillo was VERY effective in reducing the severity of the symptoms. Some spent one day in bed, others two, but no more than that.

Bc of these products, for everyone (except my father) it was like a severe cold or a mild flu. Even for my Type 1 diabetic son, who has been hospitalized twice for the flu in the past.

About my father ... He REFUSED TO TAKE THE ELDERBERRY.

HE is the ONLY one that is not well and is now struggling with pneumonia.

Incidentally, not only is Elderberry very effective for the flu, but it is especially useful to prevent pneumonia. And the only one who didn't take it, GOT PNEUMONIA.

I have some more info to share, but I need to tend to some chores and wanted to get this post out there in case it is useful for anyone.
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


Sorry that your family got sick; I agree, I believe *Covid* is the flu/severe cold as well. I even had a doctor friend confirm that.

Elderberry is fantastic to help lessen symptoms of viruses and colds, and is an excellent preventative. I take it daily (along with D3, C, probiotics, and some other stuff). Haven't been sick in over 3 yrs.

Literally everyone in my family has gotten both covid shots, boosters, AND flu shots this year. They have ALL had colds/
flu like illnesses several times already. And most of them complain non-stop about backaches and headaches, as well!

I don't believe they even realize they're complaining daily and they definitely do not associate their weird/frequent symptoms to the shots. They don't take vitamins, either.

SMH.

I'm glad your family is doing better, and I really hope your Dad improves as well. I understand what it's like to have stubborn family members who believe/trust the govt over their own flesh and blood.

This scam has made people both physically AND mentally ill. Divided a lot of good friends and families. Sad.

All the best to you and thanks for sharing.
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It is sad. My mom and dad are both vaxxed. She didn't want to, but he basically threatened her with everything and the kitchen sink. He is in denial, and she has regret.

I am upset with both of them, but especially my father.

My mother started to get a cramp in her left leg the day after her second shot. It was hard and warm to the touch. Comfrey salve got rid of the pain immediately and it was soft as usual when I checked 10 minutes later. I think it was a clot. Comfrey works for clots. I made her a whole jar of salve and triple infused the comfrey. She uses it whenever she gets the cramp. I am afraid for her and for my annoying father.

Thank God I don't have to worry about my adult children. We are of the same mind.
 Quoting: Fortunabeargirl


Your dad is a bully and your mom has enabled him by trying to keep the peace. Now he is a big problem. And everyone is suffering. Treat him like the big kid he is.
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Oatmeal = beta glucan

Eat oatmeal mixed with some elder berry syrup. Tastes great. Very good for you.
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I'll have to look up what beta-glucan is. Lol
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Beta-Glucans for:

Cytokine storm control

Coagulopathy control
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Good to know.
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Great stuff OP, thank you.

D3/K2 is what you want to be able to deal with cytokines. It is a regulator to mobilize Tcells. If you don't have enough D3, the cytokines just keep firing "help! help!" and replicating, hence the storm.

Source: Dr.Ted Broer.

K2 is to direct the D3 and any calcium around so it goes into bones and not inside the arteries.

Source: Dr. Eric Berg.
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why in the hell wouldnt he have taken elderberry.

weirdo
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He wants to get sick so he can get attention. They need to just put him in a room and ignore him.





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