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RP's Intelligent Discourse or Huckabees delusional idiocies.
Choose Wisely Pundits-

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"America became the greatest, most prosperous nation in history through low taxes, constitutionally limited government, personal freedom, and a belief in sound money. We need to return to those principles so our economy can thrive once again.

Other candidates talk a lot about stimulus packages, but my record stands alone. I have fought for these measures in Congress as the Ranking Member on the House Financial Services Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade and Technology, and as a member of the Joint Economic Committee, and will fight for their passage as president.

My plan entails four points: Tax Reform, Spending Reform, Monetary Policy Reform, and Regulatory Reform.

Tax reform means reducing the tax burden and eliminating taxes that punish investment and savings, including job-killing corporate taxes. If we cut spending to the level it was at under the Clinton administration, we can permanently do away with the income tax and the IRS. No true conservative would say that government was too small during the Clinton years!

There are several steps we can take to immediately ease the tax burden. I have proposed H.J. Res 23, which would repeal the Sixteenth Amendment and thus eliminate income, estate, and capital gains taxes. H.R. 191 would repeal President Clinton's 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits, while H.R. 192 would repeal all taxes on Social Security benefits. I also support legislation to accelerate depreciation on investment and end the practice of taxing forgiven mortgage debt.

In the area of spending reform, I want to eliminate wasteful spending, reduce overseas commitments, and freeze all non-defense, non-entitlement spending at current levels. I never vote for pork-laden bills, and I will veto them and any unbalanced budget as president. We need to refocus our national defense so that we guard our own borders, instead those of other nations. We can save billions if we stop subsidizing our trading partners in Europe, Japan, South Korea and other nations. Congress does not have the constitutional authority to send out foreign aid, and our current foreign policy of nation building is bankrupting us.

Monetary policy reform means expanding openness at the Federal Reserve and requiring the Fed to televise its meetings, as well as returning to sound money. Washington's disastrous fiscal policies, marked by shameless deficit spending and Federal Reserve currency devaluation, are some of the greatest threats facing our nation today. It is this one-two punch - Congress spending more than it can tax or borrow, and the Treasury printing money to make up the difference -- that threatens to impoverish us by further destroying the value of our dollars. It's time to end the fiat money system, legalize competing currencies, and restore soundness to our dollar.

Finally, we need to institute true regulatory reform by repealing Sarbanes/Oxley's regulations that push companies to seek capital outside of U.S. markets. Congress' rush to action after the Enron scandal gave us a bill that has heavily burdened small businesses and driven companies offshore. I also support repealing federal regulations that prevent financial institutions such as independent and community banks and credit unions from fostering economic growth.

A true package to stimulate the economy not only puts money back in Americans' pockets, it deals with the underlying causes of our current situation - an out-of-control foreign policy, runaway deficit spending, and currency devaluation brought on by the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. When enacted, my plan will provide both short-term stimulus and lay the groundwork for long-term prosperity."
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Huckabee is funnier, though.
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Huckabee is funnier, though.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


Funnier looking too. Like a wall-eyed Gomer Pyle.
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[link to thinkprogress.org]

Good thinking Rev... we can all have a good laugh as a religious lunatic leads us to annihilation via his religious fantasies and self imposed delusions of Armageddon.

Might as well support Charles Manson for office.
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I definitely would vote for a Huckabee/Paul ticket!
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Huckabee is funnier, though.


Funnier looking too. Like a wall-eyed Gomer Pyle.
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Yep. He looks like Jim Nabors with bigger ears, all right.

But it's the things that come out of his mouth...

"You don't change the word of God. You change the constitution to match the word of God."

(I can't remember the exact wording, but that's the gist of it.)
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[link to thinkprogress.org]

Good thinking Rev... we can all have a good laugh as a religious lunatic leads us to annihilation via his religious fantasies and self imposed delusions of Armageddon.

Might as well support Charles Manson for office.
 Quoting: Godot


Naw. Charles "Anything For A Laugh" Manson thinks too small.

And you are acting as if Huckabee has a chance to get elected. Hell, talking about Paul & Huckabee is like talking about fantasy football, rather than the real thing.
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Huckleberry is History.
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And you are acting as if Huckabee has a chance to get elected. Hell, talking about Paul & Huckabee is like talking about fantasy football, rather than the real thing.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


Granted... Duncan and his boys have wanted Hillary or Obama all along which is why we have seen nothing but strawdogs supported by the party shills.

Huck was never more than a dancing clown intended to distract the party faithful from the facts.
Ron is another matter... as your well aware.
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It's kinda funny I was just a few mins. ago watching the round table on a show called "This Week". And they were talking about how no candidate has been addressing the economy very much. Ron who?
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Huck was never more than a dancing clown intended to distract the party faithful from the facts.
Ron is another matter... as your well aware.
 Quoting: Godot


Neither one is going to win. That was my point.
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Neither one is going to win. That was my point.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


Rev, life is not a fashion statement.
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Huck was never more than a dancing clown intended to distract the party faithful from the facts.
Ron is another matter... as your well aware.


Neither one is going to win. That was my point.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger

So you don't vote on your ethics and principles>? you just vote on popularity then.

HAHAHA. Again , just showing the GLP people how smart you are....
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Neither one is going to win. That was my point.


Rev, life is not a fashion statement.
 Quoting: Godot



WTF? What the hell are you jabbering about now?
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So you don't vote on your ethics and principles>? you just vote on popularity then.

 Quoting: GraffixMMW


Where did I say that?

Oh, yeah. I didn't. You just lied.
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HAHAHA. TGRR is soooo S-M-R-T, smart smart smart!
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HAHAHA. TGRR is soooo S-M-R-T, smart smart smart!
 Quoting: GraffixMMW


So you have nothing. You're just a troll.

Later.
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Where did I say that?

Oh, yeah. I didn't. You just lied.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


No he didn't Rev. You express your shallowness and superficiality loudly and clearly in 90% of your postings.
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Where did I say that?

Oh, yeah. I didn't. You just lied.


No he didn't Rev. You express your shallowness and superficiality loudly and clearly in 90% of your postings.
 Quoting: Godot



And so far, you're batting 100%. I bring up something you can't answer, and you turn it into a flamefest.

You have nothing, Godot. No argument, no integrity, and no credibility.
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I will not vote for the 'Huckster.' I will not vote for a man who used Arkansas taxpayer funds via a Mexican consulate to assist illegal immigrants. I will not vote for a man who was charged with 14 ethics violations. Rather than confront and address these charges; he sued the group who brought forth the violations. Twice! I will not vote for a man who upon being asked at a debate a question about the country of Iran being a threat, etc. - he answers: Our military will take care of them and send them ' staight to the Gates of Hell.' And this person is supposed to be a spiritual, religous " Man of the Cloth?" He is a judgemental hypocrite. If the leader of any other country on this planet had been asked the same question and responded with that same answer, the Huckster and all of his ilk would have been in an uproar !


CONGRESSMAN RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT - '08


p.s. A vote for McCain,Huckabee,Romney,Hilary,Obama will
bring the same neocon NWO shite we have had for the last 7 years. Period


RP '08
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Naw. You leave.

Since you have avoided my points about Ron Paul's claims of being a "constitutionalist", and instead engaged in nothing but personal attacks, it is pretty plain that you are not prepared to offer any serious discussion.
 Quoting: The Good Reverend Roger


Your points exist only in your own mind.
Go soil your own thread you freakin wacko.
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Naw. You leave.

Since you have avoided my points about Ron Paul's claims of being a "constitutionalist", and instead engaged in nothing but personal attacks, it is pretty plain that you are not prepared to offer any serious discussion.


Your points exist only in your own mind.
Go soil your own thread you freakin wacko.
 Quoting: Godot


TRANSLATION: You have no argument. You are no better than a common troll; your only response to anything you disagree with is the personal attack.

When I first got here, you seemed reasonable enough. Too bad you turned out to be a whackjob with nothing to say, and an obsession to say it.
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I will not vote for the 'Huckster.' I will not vote for a man who used Arkansas taxpayer funds via a Mexican consulate to assist illegal immigrants. I will not vote for a man who was charged with 14 ethics violations. Rather than confront and address these charges; he sued the group who brought forth the violations. Twice! I will not vote for a man who upon being asked at a debate a question about the country of Iran being a threat, etc. - he answers: Our military will take care of them and send them ' staight to the Gates of Hell.' And this person is supposed to be a spiritual, religous " Man of the Cloth?" He is a judgemental hypocrite. If the leader of any other country on this planet had been asked the same question and responded with that same answer, the Huckster and all of his ilk would have been in an uproar !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 344760


A prudent analysis AC. Words like "straight to the gates of hell" are symptomatic of a Madman.
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Choose Wisely Pundits-

-recent message from RP-
"America became the greatest, most prosperous nation in history through low taxes, constitutionally limited government, personal freedom, and a belief in sound money. We need to return to those principles so our economy can thrive once again.

Other candidates talk a lot about stimulus packages, but my record stands alone. I have fought for these measures in Congress as the Ranking Member on the House Financial Services Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, Trade and Technology, and as a member of the Joint Economic Committee, and will fight for their passage as president.

My plan entails four points: Tax Reform, Spending Reform, Monetary Policy Reform, and Regulatory Reform.

Tax reform means reducing the tax burden and eliminating taxes that punish investment and savings, including job-killing corporate taxes. If we cut spending to the level it was at under the Clinton administration, we can permanently do away with the income tax and the IRS. No true conservative would say that government was too small during the Clinton years!

There are several steps we can take to immediately ease the tax burden. I have proposed H.J. Res 23, which would repeal the Sixteenth Amendment and thus eliminate income, estate, and capital gains taxes. H.R. 191 would repeal President Clinton's 1993 increase in taxes on Social Security benefits, while H.R. 192 would repeal all taxes on Social Security benefits. I also support legislation to accelerate depreciation on investment and end the practice of taxing forgiven mortgage debt.

In the area of spending reform, I want to eliminate wasteful spending, reduce overseas commitments, and freeze all non-defense, non-entitlement spending at current levels. I never vote for pork-laden bills, and I will veto them and any unbalanced budget as president. We need to refocus our national defense so that we guard our own borders, instead those of other nations. We can save billions if we stop subsidizing our trading partners in Europe, Japan, South Korea and other nations. Congress does not have the constitutional authority to send out foreign aid, and our current foreign policy of nation building is bankrupting us.

Monetary policy reform means expanding openness at the Federal Reserve and requiring the Fed to televise its meetings, as well as returning to sound money. Washington's disastrous fiscal policies, marked by shameless deficit spending and Federal Reserve currency devaluation, are some of the greatest threats facing our nation today. It is this one-two punch - Congress spending more than it can tax or borrow, and the Treasury printing money to make up the difference -- that threatens to impoverish us by further destroying the value of our dollars. It's time to end the fiat money system, legalize competing currencies, and restore soundness to our dollar.

Finally, we need to institute true regulatory reform by repealing Sarbanes/Oxley's regulations that push companies to seek capital outside of U.S. markets. Congress' rush to action after the Enron scandal gave us a bill that has heavily burdened small businesses and driven companies offshore. I also support repealing federal regulations that prevent financial institutions such as independent and community banks and credit unions from fostering economic growth.

A true package to stimulate the economy not only puts money back in Americans' pockets, it deals with the underlying causes of our current situation - an out-of-control foreign policy, runaway deficit spending, and currency devaluation brought on by the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. When enacted, my plan will provide both short-term stimulus and lay the groundwork for long-term prosperity."
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