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Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.

 
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Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel.

If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually.

The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason.

Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here:


The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration:
[link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]

I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision.

All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare.
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Currently the shots are like russian roulette, or even if you're on a list or the giver doesn't like you, intentional homicide. Something like 20% could be having immediately life threatening results from the way its given.

Though it still leaves the muscles according to scientists who have studied it, and circulates and large amounts are found in reproductive organs for example, vascular system. This is more about the immediate injuries and death some have had, immediate reactions. Long term isn't good and people who have taken this need to treat themselves as if they have HIV and really take a lot of supplements including zinc, curcumin, D3, C, quercetin, NAC, msm sulfur, dandelion leaf and root, cannibinoids, glutathione, selenium, reseveratrol, oil of oregano, quinines, and ivermectin if possible. Also pine needle or fennel or star anise for the shikimic acid.
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
Professor Hoiby in Kopenhagen, who is often consulted by the Danish government-related health institutes, in a talk with Dr. Campbell 3 days ago explains how Denmark switched away from the CDC guidelines and are now doing correct aspiration before the intramuscular injection:



Further into the talk around minute 13, Hoiby points to statistical comparisons between myocarditis side effects after mRNA and Adenovirus injections in Norway compared to Denmark. Preliminary results apparently show a 3 times higher risk in the country where mostly no aspiration was done, Norway.

direct link to minute 13: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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When nursing students are learning how to give intramuscular and subcutaneous injections, they are taught to place the needle—stop—pull back on the plunger (aspirate)—if there is a blood return, withdraw the needle; if no blood return, proceed with the injection. THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL INJECTION PROCEDURE!
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Don't know the answer.

it is probably to make it easier for technicians and all to give the shot.


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it is probably to make it easier for technicians and all to give the shot.
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That may have been the hidden technical original reason for the CDC in 2017 to change it as today most injections are given with socalled auto-disable syringes where the cheapest models don’t allow for aspiration as their one-way mechanism prevents that. Auto-disables are used to prevent later resale/misuse in my understanding.

Why the CDC is not updating their 2017 recommendation is a mystery, especially now with Denmark and most likely also other countries having rejected that detail of the CDC 2017 guideline.
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Some day they will give us the choice to inject ourselves with vaccines if we want. I can’t imagine it’s too hard to give yourself a self injection
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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Yet another covid smoking gun. Why don't people have more self preservation?

You fools who trust the pharma whore medical community get what you deserve at this point.

If you aren't into natural medicine and diet and healthy living, you suck. hf
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When nursing students are learning how to give intramuscular and subcutaneous injections, they are taught to place the needle—stop—pull back on the plunger (aspirate)—if there is a blood return, withdraw the needle; if no blood return, proceed with the injection. THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL INJECTION PROCEDURE!
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I had a vet show me how to give a shot to my sheep and he even said to pull back and check for blood.

But that's too good for mere humans.


sheep
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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Trust me, Pfizer executives and minions are going down hard, and they will once again pay billions.
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Saw a video the other day of a Haitian being "coerced to take the jab. I'm pretty sure the guy giving it would have stuck the thing anywhere convenient just to get it done.
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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How did they decide they were qualified to give shots when they don't even know how to do it?

Bizarre
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They knew when they rolled this out that injecting spike proteins directly into the blood stream would be deadly.

By the time someone has had several boosters, at least one of them will have entered the blood stream directly using their new updated technique. It truly is a giant game of Russian roulette.
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
When nursing students are learning how to give intramuscular and subcutaneous injections, they are taught to place the needle—stop—pull back on the plunger (aspirate)—if there is a blood return, withdraw the needle; if no blood return, proceed with the injection. THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL INJECTION PROCEDURE!
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I had a vet show me how to give a shot to my sheep and he even said to pull back and check for blood.

But that's too good for mere humans.


sheep
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yoda
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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Could happen as the vendor clearly states m the vials to only inject intramuscular and the CDC guideline is only a guideline not saying to not aspirate.
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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How did they decide they were qualified to give shots when they don't even know how to do it?

Bizarre
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All the videos I've seen has all the nurses just throwing the needle into the shoulder like throwing darts and immediately injecting.

I guess the efficiency experts got to the nursing schools to reduce labor time and costs.

Retarded.
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There's only one reason not to aspirate and that's to increase risk. I know people that went for the jab and after I told them to tell the nurse to at least aspirate they said NO! I don't know what that is other than brainwashed/a.i. nano linked.
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If I ever have any injections again and that is highly unlikely as they're so keen to get SOMETHING into all of us, Ill tell them to aspirate and watch and if they don't I'm taking that as attempted murder.
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Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame.
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How did they decide they were qualified to give shots when they don't even know how to do it?

Bizarre
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The whole medical profession was built on a wing and a prayer. To think otherwise is NOT to have ever been around the medical profession… which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Vets always aspirate on animals, why don't the jab givers do so on humans?
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It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed.

You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain.
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But watch at 7:30. It does not REALLY matter.

The needed to avoid doctors injecting their own patients. You know, real doctors who actually care about their patients. The real doctors would have refused to do this to their own patients.

They needed monkeys with no clue. Hired from the street, a few hours "training", no clue about ethics, no skills to actually give the shots in these "vaccination" centers.
The monkeys giving the shots in the "vaccination" centers would faint if there was coming blood.

This is not about health or saving lives, it is most likely about controlled depopulation.
It has been planned very carefully and it executed very carefully. And it kills Anyways. It goes into the blood stream, into wherever in the body. Makes the cells produce the viral protein and attack from the inside.

If injected directly into blood stream it is very fast and dramatic, but these are too few cases for people to get really upset. They KNEW these statistics. They are fine with it.
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I will gladly die from any virus, than be the guinea pig for satanic, greedy, unelected, cockroaches.
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1 in 40,000 hit a vein so nurses were taught, too much time and effort.

The immediate toxic effect from the jab numbers are pretty close to that, considering the total number of jabs.

Feel lucky punk?
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed.

You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain.
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Noone said anything about air bubbles. This is about making sure the vaxx is administered into muscle tissue and not directly into blood stream. My nurse friend 100% was taught to always aspirate intramuscular injections when in school. She claims when she got her xovid shot the nurse did aspirate. She was shocked when I told her the cdc recommended not too anymore. She works in an administrative position.
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed.

You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain.
 Quoting: GodisImagination


air is not the problem.

IMs are called intra-muscular for a reason.

IM injections are intended to go into muscle tissue only.

not into veins, arteries, organs etc.



The reason is the MUCH SLOWER ABSORBTION FROM MUSCLE

as opposed to other injection sites. Think of it as a depot of drug that slowly joins the body.

injecting it into the blood - game over.

It is spread immediately to the tissues.

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The worm is turning, and doctors will be the scape goat for the vax deaths. This script is already gaining traction.

It cannot be the vax now can it. It cannot be the elites of the world that wants to reduce the population. It cannot be the government officials with overflowing pockets being bought off. It cannot be impending global doom. It cannot be the script that came out of John Hopkins. It cannot be that Fauci and crew bought and paid for the gain of function research. It just cannot be!

It is all the fault of the nurses and family practitioners. And it will be easy to demonize them because the channels this part of the script is circling in is the liberal vaxed channels. It cannot be that they were fooled, and government would not do that to us. It is the local health practitioners that will pay the price. The price of the mob's hatred will be harsh!
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed.

You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain.
 Quoting: GodisImagination


what?

Even junkies aspirate to make sure they are in a vein...

lol

ALL intramuscular injections REQUIRE aspiration to make sure they are NOT in a vein.

Yet somehow, this one, which is DEADLY if it gets into your bloodstream, doesn't require aspiration?

-sigh-
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No they don't. I used steroids for 20 years I know damn well what I'm talking about. A vein will collapse before any appreciable amount of air can enter. Like I said, it would take a 60cc syringe of pure air into an artery (a vein would collapse).

Any modern doctor knows this. There is no need to aspirate. That's medieval thinking.

Junkies are TRYING to hit veins. You're ass backwards.

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I honestly didn't want anything to do with this medical experimentation. I resisted as long as I could before succumbing to the pressures exerted on me by the many facets of my duties on the job.

It boiled down to the vaxtards telling me I would not longer be able to perform my duties in their units unless I was vaccinated. My boss pressured me since the beginning to be vaccinated but I resisted. But after reviewing much data over a year I relented and got my first dose.

The initial symptoms were odd. I felt disconnected from reality and intellectually stunted. I had no pain at the injection site that everyone else had said was the case.

These symptoms went on for 5 days before I woke up that morning and nearly called the local hospital for an ambulance. I have never felt so close to death as after this injection. I was so weak and disoriented that I could not stand and was shaking so uncontrollably that I couldn't even go to the bathroom. I crawled into the kitchen and urinated on the tile floor.

Like I said, zero shoulder pain at the injection site. My second dose saw some discomfort in my shoulder for about five days but no serious side effects. A bit of fatigue and fever for a couple of days.

I believe that they should aspirate the needle. I believe that this toxic garbage went directly in to my bloodstream and nearly killed me. I can understand why many others have had serious complications from it. Though being a bit older I have been a top level athlete in many disciplines over the years and can see how many people have succumbed to the horrible effects of this directly being injected into the blood stream.
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Re: Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk.
To avoid confusion here: aspiration in this context is not about air, which the word may lure to as it sounds like breathing. It is the common practice to check that the end of the needle is not in a bloodvessel. The risk is low to hit it accidentally, but according to experience from doctors who used aspiration for decades, it may be between 1/1000 to 1/10000.





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