Why no proper aspiration used for the jab? Unnecessary potentially life threatening risk. | |
Xuki User ID: 72417015 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:42 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I honestly didn't want anything to do with this medical experimentation. I resisted as long as I could before succumbing to the pressures exerted on me by the many facets of my duties on the job. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537298 It boiled down to the vaxtards telling me I would not longer be able to perform my duties in their units unless I was vaccinated. My boss pressured me since the beginning to be vaccinated but I resisted. But after reviewing much data over a year I relented and got my first dose. The initial symptoms were odd. I felt disconnected from reality and intellectually stunted. I had no pain at the injection site that everyone else had said was the case. These symptoms went on for 5 days before I woke up that morning and nearly called the local hospital for an ambulance. I have never felt so close to death as after this injection. I was so weak and disoriented that I could not stand and was shaking so uncontrollably that I couldn't even go to the bathroom. I crawled into the kitchen and urinated on the tile floor. Like I said, zero shoulder pain at the injection site. My second dose saw some discomfort in my shoulder for about five days but no serious side effects. A bit of fatigue and fever for a couple of days. I believe that they should aspirate the needle. I believe that this toxic garbage went directly in to my bloodstream and nearly killed me. I can understand why many others have had serious complications from it. Though being a bit older I have been a top level athlete in many disciplines over the years and can see how many people have succumbed to the horrible effects of this directly being injected into the blood stream. First you fell into the vax trap and now you are being told to blame it on the shot givers and POOOOF! IT'S NOT THE VAX OF DEATH! IT'S ALL THE DOCTORS FAULT! ![]() Imhotep. Imhotep. Imhotep. Imhotep. Imhotep. "If you gotta eat a turd eat it fast." |
beeches User ID: 78973486 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:44 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. Noone said anything about air bubbles. This is about making sure the vaxx is administered into muscle tissue and not directly into blood stream. My nurse friend 100% was taught to always aspirate intramuscular injections when in school. She claims when she got her xovid shot the nurse did aspirate. She was shocked when I told her the cdc recommended not too anymore. She works in an administrative position. I'm with her. She probably knows how to give a Z-track injection too, used for substances like iron that can be harmful (think corrosive) to subdermal tissues if leaked out. It involves offsetting the pinch of tissue you inject into. When you release it, the normally straight shot canal has a Z in it, which is supposed to make leaking much less likely. ![]() |
McKracken (OP) User ID: 80578548 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These symptoms went on for 5 days before I woke up that morning and nearly called the local hospital for an ambulance. I have never felt so close to death as after this injection. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537298 Are you feeling normal now again? The difficult question is now, who can be considered responsible for the wrong injection method used here most likely? The doctor or managed who taught the nurses to not aspirate anymore? Most likely not, as they can refer to the CDC guideline. The CDC could deny responsibility as they are only saying “not needed” but bot “don’t do it”. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537298 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To avoid confusion here: aspiration in this context is not about air, which the word may lure to as it sounds like breathing. It is the common practice to check that the end of the needle is not in a bloodvessel. The risk is low to hit it accidentally, but according to experience from doctors who used aspiration for decades, it may be between 1/1000 to 1/10000. Quoting: McKracken thank you Guess that I should have included that with my post as to avoid confusion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77128286 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To avoid confusion here: aspiration in this context is not about air, which the word may lure to as it sounds like breathing. It is the common practice to check that the end of the needle is not in a bloodvessel. The risk is low to hit it accidentally, but according to experience from doctors who used aspiration for decades, it may be between 1/1000 to 1/10000. Quoting: McKracken thank you really? then how do they ever get the IV in your veins? if it's 1/10,000? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537298 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These symptoms went on for 5 days before I woke up that morning and nearly called the local hospital for an ambulance. I have never felt so close to death as after this injection. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78537298 Are you feeling normal now again? The difficult question is now, who can be considered responsible for the wrong injection method used here most likely? The doctor or managed who taught the nurses to not aspirate anymore? Most likely not, as they can refer to the CDC guideline. The CDC could deny responsibility as they are only saying “not needed” but bot “don’t do it”. I didn't feel fine for a least three weeks. My intestines were routed and I couldn't even keep water in me without passing through virtually immediately. My liver felt swollen and my heart hurt from the dehydration of not being able to keep even water in my system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75569140 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To avoid confusion here: aspiration in this context is not about air, which the word may lure to as it sounds like breathing. It is the common practice to check that the end of the needle is not in a bloodvessel. The risk is low to hit it accidentally, but according to experience from doctors who used aspiration for decades, it may be between 1/1000 to 1/10000. Quoting: McKracken It's pretty clear the modern medical field bean counters decided those people affected are mere statistics and expensive modern medicine can not be concerned with such minor statistics. Er, cough, people. Too bad for their bad genes, eh? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75569140 ![]() 12/24/2021 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But yes, the big fault is the mad scientists believing they can do a better job than our Creator by changing our immune system and genetics. I'll stick with my God given operating system Version 1.0 Thank you very much. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537298 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really? then how do they ever get the IV in your veins? if it's 1/10,000? You win the retard of the day award! You should feel special as this award is not given out lightly. It takes a certain amount of complete stupidity to qualify for this prestigious accolade. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80144523 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel. Quoting: McKracken If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually. The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason. Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here: The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision. All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare. work at hospital in s georgia some years ago one practice was to withdraw blood from healthy people a pactice that go back centurys with leeches an opening a vein those ol farmers swore by it ![]() |
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Buck Fiden formerly Huck Fillary and Sum Tin User ID: 81115167 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | really? then how do they ever get the IV in your veins? if it's 1/10,000? You win the retard of the day award! You should feel special as this award is not given out lightly. It takes a certain amount of complete stupidity to qualify for this prestigious accolade. I think we can safely bump that all the way to "Retard of the Week". VERY prestigious. There're prizes and everything. And you get a t-shirt. Last Edited by Buck Fiden on 12/24/2021 04:07 PM |
Jewlz User ID: 78264972 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. |
NotToBeReadAloud User ID: 72251732 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. what? Even junkies aspirate to make sure they are in a vein... lol ALL intramuscular injections REQUIRE aspiration to make sure they are NOT in a vein. Yet somehow, this one, which is DEADLY if it gets into your bloodstream, doesn't require aspiration? -sigh- No they don't. I used steroids for 20 years I know damn well what I'm talking about. A vein will collapse before any appreciable amount of air can enter. Like I said, it would take a 60cc syringe of pure air into an artery (a vein would collapse). Any modern doctor knows this. There is no need to aspirate. That's medieval thinking. Junkies are TRYING to hit veins. You're ass backwards. You're upside down and azz backwards or just a flat liar? Aspiration is fundamental and the only reason they dropped it is because they are no longer liable for malpractice or murder and knowingly injecting that vax in a vein is murder. It doesn't have anything to do with air and the vax is taking care of the fkng medieval brained that forgot where they live There's more visci than sua "It would have been so easy to be a saint" AmHealer at priest com |
EndItNow User ID: 80070202 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:10 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz Yeah, but these are being given by the senile greeter at walmart |
TheExPatrioticGirl User ID: 36405926 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:17 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel. Quoting: McKracken If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually. The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason. Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here: The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision. All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare. The (German?) doctor who was recently murdered on the day his article about graphene oxide was due to come out stated that the method of injection (directly into the muscle or into a vein) decides whether you die later or immediately after, respectively. The method used would appear to depend on the talents of the injector. Is this what you are saying? It's all fun & games until the Dogman stands up Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy Shit! What a ride!" In times of trouble, I ask myself, "What would Sarah Conner do?" |
TheExPatrioticGirl User ID: 36405926 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:19 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. Noone said anything about air bubbles. This is about making sure the vaxx is administered into muscle tissue and not directly into blood stream. My nurse friend 100% was taught to always aspirate intramuscular injections when in school. She claims when she got her xovid shot the nurse did aspirate. She was shocked when I told her the cdc recommended not too anymore. She works in an administrative position. That's what I was referring to in my comment before this one. Everyone will die but if the injection is in muscle tissue it will be down the road...into the blood stream and it's very soon after. It's all fun & games until the Dogman stands up Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well-preserved body but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy Shit! What a ride!" In times of trouble, I ask myself, "What would Sarah Conner do?" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80144523 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel. Quoting: McKracken If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually. The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason. Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here: The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision. All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare. work at hospital in s georgia some years ago one practice was to withdraw blood from healthy people a pactice that go back centurys with leeches an opening a vein those ol farmers swore by it ![]() i was a modern day medieval physician ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73200178 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Interpretation: This first-ever demonstration in human beings shows that a prophylactic mRNA-based candidate vaccine can induce boostable functional antibodies against a viral antigen when administered with a needle-free device, although not when injected by a needle-syringe." Judging from these mRNA test results, they shouldn't be injecting it into the muscles at all. It should just be a poke just below the skin's surface. ![]() |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537298 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Noone said anything about air bubbles. This is about making sure the vaxx is administered into muscle tissue and not directly into blood stream. My nurse friend 100% was taught to always aspirate intramuscular injections when in school. She claims when she got her xovid shot the nurse did aspirate. She was shocked when I told her the cdc recommended not too anymore. She works in an administrative position. That's what I was referring to in my comment before this one. Everyone will die but if the injection is in muscle tissue it will be down the road...into the blood stream and it's very soon after. I would not be able to live easily if not for my job. I do not think these "vaccines" are nefarious. Just the politics behind them. Are they safe? Millions world wide have received them without ill effects. Even after many sensational people had said billions would start dropping dead by September. Now will all of the vaxed die of cancer in the next decade? No idea. But if we do our children will sort it out. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz even a capillary will fuck you up I can't believe you wouldn't aspirate just to be sure? I do with my own shots I have to take... or redraw the syringe to be minus air in it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz if they are teaching nurses that.. your teachers are full of shit.. OK. there are always capillaries and tiny veins in all tissues in the body. |
Macs Divoc DOOOOOOOOMMMM User ID: 79610236 12/24/2021 04:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't they have to abort the I.M. jab if they see blood and start all over? The fuckers are probably too cheap to waste the black goo. A human life<$30. Last Edited by Macs Divoc on 12/24/2021 04:58 PM "You're gonna miss Christianity when it's gone". Altiyan Childs Shoon, we will all have to make decisions that will change our destinies . Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78537298 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz even a capillary will fuck you up I can't believe you wouldn't aspirate just to be sure? I do with my own shots I have to take... or redraw the syringe to be minus air in it. This has nothing to do with air in the syringe. Only in determining if it is installed and artery or a vein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81625722 ![]() 12/24/2021 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. |
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Grey Eagle User ID: 61873366 ![]() 12/24/2021 05:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Someone here predicted quite awhile back that the people administering the shots would be held to blame. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80006240 Two words: PLAUSIBLE. - DENIAL. If it walks like a duck; if it quacks like a duck; if it acts like a duck ... :fireplace: "Remember when we used to treat colds and flu with chicken soup, saltwater gargles and warm tea instead of Communism?" |