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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79578855 ![]() 12/24/2021 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel. Quoting: McKracken If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually. The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason. Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here: The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision. All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare. I've never in my life seen aspiration used during a vaccination injection. This is complete bs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75474423 ![]() 12/24/2021 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. what? Even junkies aspirate to make sure they are in a vein... lol ALL intramuscular injections REQUIRE aspiration to make sure they are NOT in a vein. Yet somehow, this one, which is DEADLY if it gets into your bloodstream, doesn't require aspiration? -sigh- No they don't. I used steroids for 20 years I know damn well what I'm talking about. A vein will collapse before any appreciable amount of air can enter. Like I said, it would take a 60cc syringe of pure air into an artery (a vein would collapse). Any modern doctor knows this. There is no need to aspirate. That's medieval thinking. Junkies are TRYING to hit veins. You're ass backwards. Yes, BUT....it's still proper etiquette/procedure to ALWAYS aspirate....UNLESS starting a line or hitting a large veseel such as Ext/Internal Jugular/Subclavian/Femoral....or doing an IC/pericardiocentesis with pressures. Now...if the patient is in arrest, aspiration may help with proper placement of a line....ie no blood flow. The REAL reason for aspiration is SOME drugs/dosages are NOT to go in a bloodstream.....such as the VAX |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80144523 ![]() 12/24/2021 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In countries following the CDC vaccination guidelines, which already existed pre 2019, aspiration is not applied anymore in general during the injection. That means during the injection no direct check is done to verify that the vaccine is not entering the blood stream and stays intramuscular like the vendors absolutely require. Only indirect mitigations are done, like using the correct needle length or selecting a spot with low probability of hitting a blood vessel. Quoting: McKracken If the vaccine enters the blood stream, it is often a critical and potential life threatening situation as blood clots can form on the vaccine micro particulates. Most TV snippets showing injections now show clearly a direct one way push, no slight pull on the syringe plunger as it was done pre-2017 usually. The vendors don’t add the strict requirement for intramuscular injection without reason. Dr. Campbell, retired Nursing Teacher in the UK, repeated about this topic several times already on his channel. Most recently here: The CDC guideline from 2017 where it changed to no aspiration: [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] I have read somewhere that already around 2005 was a similar change published, but couldn’t find it. There is strangely not much foundation in references given in public about this CDC decision. All this together makes it for informed self-thinking citizens even more difficult to follow the vaccine story. This combination appears like a Kafkaesk nightmare. work at hospital in s georgia some years ago one practice was to withdraw blood from healthy people a pactice that go back centurys with leeches an opening a vein those ol farmers swore by it ![]() i was a modern day medieval physician ![]() take thet fauci |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81576802 ![]() 12/24/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting fact... Aspiration of vaccines into muscle probably stopped 20+ years ago when injecting babies in the thigh, as it caused unnecessary added pain. A baby thigh muscles arteries are undeveloped at such an early stage. Aspiration gradually dropped from use. Covid19 jabs have been given by hurriedly trained staff, many of which have been government employees such as civil servants. They are not clinicians of ANY kind other than 20 minutes on-the-job training sticking needles into people. Governments and their medical advisor have gone so far in on this experimental gene therapy, they need to keep the lies going at the risk of another modern day Nuremberg Trial. |
McKracken (OP) User ID: 77750652 ![]() 12/24/2021 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've never in my life seen aspiration used during a vaccination injection. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79578855 It's barely visible when done by a professional as the syringe is not moved during it, just a bit on the plunger. This friendly lady from India Today explains it: Dr. Moran tells about aspiration on his channel: "COVID Vaccine | Are poor injection techniques causing blood clots and myocarditis?" Training video dated 2012 from Oxford University Medical School showing proper aspiration: Last Edited by McKracken on 12/24/2021 06:16 PM |
NotToBeReadAloud User ID: 72249097 ![]() 12/24/2021 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. If they aspirated it and blood was drawn back out it would immediately clot. Quoting: EndItNow They'd have to throw out that vaxx because it would clog Not necessarily with all the vit c and solvents in it. Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz Well you're not working for me ever. Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz even a capillary will fuck you up I can't believe you wouldn't aspirate just to be sure? I've had patients 40 years and I think that claim is new and bullsh*t to go along with medical immunity and depopulation Last Edited by NotToBeReadAloud on 12/24/2021 06:16 PM There's more visci than sua "It would have been so easy to be a saint" AmHealer at priest com |
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McKracken (OP) User ID: 77750652 ![]() 12/24/2021 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've had patients 40 years and I think that claim is new and bullsh*t to go along with medical immunity and depopulation Quoting: NotToBeReadAloud It's indeed strange, especially as many other countries have rejected that detail of the CDC guideline. Next to Denmark, for example also Taiwan. And to avoid accusing medical professionals in the US in general: There are reports about people having received the mRNA shots with proper aspiration at CVS, Walgreens , Walmart and other similar places. |
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me777 User ID: 80289431 ![]() 12/24/2021 06:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Currently the shots are like russian roulette, or even if you're on a list or the giver doesn't like you, intentional homicide. Something like 20% could be having immediately life threatening results from the way its given. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn Though it still leaves the muscles according to scientists who have studied it, and circulates and large amounts are found in reproductive organs for example, vascular system. This is more about the immediate injuries and death some have had, immediate reactions. Long term isn't good and people who have taken this need to treat themselves as if they have HIV and really take a lot of supplements including zinc, curcumin, D3, C, quercetin, NAC, msm sulfur, dandelion leaf and root, cannibinoids, glutathione, selenium, reseveratrol, oil of oregano, quinines, and ivermectin if possible. Also pine needle or fennel or star anise for the shikimic acid. ![]() Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75014569 ![]() 12/24/2021 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just chiming in as I have been a nurse for going on 30 years-- you do not need to aspirate an injection into intramuscular or even intradermal. We are given solid guidelines for where to inject intramuscular needles so that you are not hitting a vein. The deltoid muscle in the upper arm is one place. There are no major veins there to hit. Quoting: Jewlz even a capillary will fuck you up I can't believe you wouldn't aspirate just to be sure? I do with my own shots I have to take... or redraw the syringe to be minus air in it. This has nothing to do with air in the syringe. Only in determining if it is installed and artery or a vein. I am a former nurse who gave a lot of injections... and air is an issue if installed accidently in the either a vein or artery/ .... You must check that... and there is no way 100% possible to be sure if your needle is in a vein or artery if you do not check... I know this from experience. you must look for blood return . You must aspirate to be sure where the tip of the needle actually is.. Period. You have no way to be sure otherwise. there is not only air but many meds should not be accidentally placed in vein or artery. the absorption of said medicine can be affected with adverse effects... DO NOT ARGUE THIS WITH ME.. I KNOW. to the deltoid post above.. that is a powerful muscle and it can have veins and arteries big enough to present risk.. where are your brains people.. absent? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79211509 ![]() 12/24/2021 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ even a capillary will fuck you up I can't believe you wouldn't aspirate just to be sure? I do with my own shots I have to take... or redraw the syringe to be minus air in it. This has nothing to do with air in the syringe. Only in determining if it is installed and artery or a vein. I am a former nurse who gave a lot of injections... and air is an issue if installed accidently in the either a vein or artery/ .... You must check that... and there is no way 100% possible to be sure if your needle is in a vein or artery if you do not check... I know this from experience. you must look for blood return . You must aspirate to be sure where the tip of the needle actually is.. Period. You have no way to be sure otherwise. there is not only air but many meds should not be accidentally placed in vein or artery. the absorption of said medicine can be affected with adverse effects... DO NOT ARGUE THIS WITH ME.. I KNOW. to the deltoid post above.. that is a powerful muscle and it can have veins and arteries big enough to present risk.. where are your brains people.. absent? soon they will taze or put the dog on you and inject your eye until they puncture theeeee 3rd eye..watch your 6!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81644691 12/24/2021 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. Noone said anything about air bubbles. This is about making sure the vaxx is administered into muscle tissue and not directly into blood stream. My nurse friend 100% was taught to always aspirate intramuscular injections when in school. She claims when she got her xovid shot the nurse did aspirate. She was shocked when I told her the cdc recommended not too anymore. She works in an administrative position. Because not enough people are stupid and/or desperate enough to get the jabbs so they gotta increase the numbers of deaths, somehow ^^^^^ CDC is EVIL |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 81644691 12/24/2021 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. what? Even junkies aspirate to make sure they are in a vein... lol ALL intramuscular injections REQUIRE aspiration to make sure they are NOT in a vein. Yet somehow, this one, which is DEADLY if it gets into your bloodstream, doesn't require aspiration? -sigh- No they don't. I used steroids for 20 years I know damn well what I'm talking about. A vein will collapse before any appreciable amount of air can enter. Like I said, it would take a 60cc syringe of pure air into an artery (a vein would collapse). Any modern doctor knows this. There is no need to aspirate. That's medieval thinking. Junkies are TRYING to hit veins. You're ass backwards. It's not being injected directly in the blood stream and it would take 60cc's of pure air into an artery to even have a chance of anything happening. Veins carry deoxygenated blood and air bubbles will readily be absorbed. Quoting: GodisImagination You're touting a DARE myth to scare people out of using heroin. No one aspirates with a brain. what? Even junkies aspirate to make sure they are in a vein... lol ALL intramuscular injections REQUIRE aspiration to make sure they are NOT in a vein. Yet somehow, this one, which is DEADLY if it gets into your bloodstream, doesn't require aspiration? -sigh- No they don't. I used steroids for 20 years I know damn well what I'm talking about. A vein will collapse before any appreciable amount of air can enter. Like I said, it would take a 60cc syringe of pure air into an artery (a vein would collapse). Any modern doctor knows this. There is no need to aspirate. That's medieval thinking. Junkies are TRYING to hit veins. You're ass backwards. you are misunderstanding...this talk is not about air bubbles, please read the original posts... not about air, about getting toxic dangerous hazardous syringe contents accidentally directly into bloodstream |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81644691 12/24/2021 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are so fucked. Any words of reassurance for a regular person? I'm really feeling the pressure now. 26/M/UK Quoting: Sivv we've always been effed at least you're cognizant of it at the moment. next life man. next life. enjoy orientation. this is closer to hell than you'll ever be again. woo woo! I'm pretty sure this IS Hell... |
26Degrees User ID: 81031998 ![]() 12/24/2021 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I ever have any injections again and that is highly unlikely as they're so keen to get SOMETHING into all of us, Ill tell them to aspirate and watch and if they don't I'm taking that as attempted murder. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80484156 I would be willing to guess that is you use that particular word...most of those fake nurses doing the injections won't even know what that word means. That is even a better test or a duel check. |
McKracken (OP) User ID: 77750652 ![]() 12/24/2021 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Possibly, eespecially when reading some comments below the youtube videos where people report about their experience at public vax stations. Some vax-providers in those reports mistook the word for verification that no air is in the syringe. Checking about no air in the syringe is of course also important, but at least that's still done everywhere. Last Edited by McKracken on 12/24/2021 10:11 PM |