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Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists

 
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Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet


Lou Whitworth



The Early Years


In this essay we will examine the life and work of Edgar Cayce, often called "the sleeping prophet." He was a demonically inspired prophet and healer very popular in the sixties and seventies. Today his influence is stronger than ever as he helped pave the way for the popularity of "channeling."


Edgar Cayce was born in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, in 1877. His family was ordinary in most ways, except for a current of demonic dabbling and occultism among the males. His grandfather was a water witch and unerringly accurate in dousing for water with the forked limbs of a witch hazel tree. Many of his acquaintances held that he was also able to make tables and brooms "dance." Edgar´s father was an unwitting Pied Piper of snakes. Apparently snakes loved him and followed him around and even wrapped their bodies around his hat brim if he put his hat down while working in the fields. It unnerved him so much that he moved from the farm into the city and eventually became a justice of the peace.{1}


Edgar Cayce´s childhood was very unique. As a boy he exhibited an occultic tendency to see and hear things that others didn´t see. For example, he had "little playmates" who disappeared when others came around. They always grew with him and stayed his size, but after the death of a neighbor girl who could also see them, they seemed smaller. He realized that he was growing up and would soon lose their companionship.{2}


As a young boy Edgar attended the Christian church and wanted to be a minister. He resolved to read the Bible through once for each year of his life. By age 13 he was working on his thirteenth reading in his favorite place, a playhouse by a creek in the woods, when he heard a humming sound. He looked up to see a woman in brilliant white clothing with wings on her back standing in front of him.{3} She said, "Your prayers have been answered, little boy. Tell me what it is you want most of all, so that I may give it to you." Though very frightened, he told her, "most of all I would like to be helpful to other people, especially children." Upon that the woman vanished.{4}


The next day in school Edgar couldn´t master his spelling words. His brother Lucian, the school teacher, felt that the boy needed more drilling, so he tutored him that evening at home. Still Edgar couldn´t spell the words. When boy said he was tired and laid his head on the spelling book, Lucian went into the kitchen to get a drink of water.{5} Edgar fell asleep and heard the voice from the day before saying, "Sleep and we will help you."{6} When Lucian returned, the boy had slept several minutes. He then woke Edgar up and immediately tested him on the words. To Lucian´s surprise Edgar knew those words perfectly as well as any words anywhere in the book. Edgar then began to tell Lucian which words were on which pages and even what pictures corresponded to what page numbers.{7} Apparently the female "angel" (unheard of in the Bible) was a deceiver from the evil realm and had given him the occultic ability called "remote viewing."


These events and the things that followed them clearly suggest that Edgar Cayce had inherited through his family demonic spiritual powers and occultic tendencies. Now we will focus on the young man´s development into a psychic, or more accurately, a spiritualistic healer.


The Development of a Spiritualistic Healer


Edgar Cayce´s involvement in healing was just as strange as the other events in his life. It began at school when he was struck from behind with a baseball. He acted unusual the rest of the school day and in the evening when he returned home. When he went to bed he asked his parents to make a poultice of corn meal, onions, and herbs. They thought it extraordinary but did as he asked and applied the poultice to the back of his head as per his instructions. When he woke the next morning he was back to normal but remembered nothing that had happened since being struck by the baseball. His family was amazed. This was the beginning of his cures--the first one on himself!


The second stage in his healing journey also included self diagnosis. It happened after he developed a throat problem which prevented his speaking above a whisper. The condition persisted for some months and nothing was able to help. Finally, "Dr." Al Layne, a local correspondence-school trained hypnotist and osteopath, convinced Cayce to let him try to help. Cayce stretched out and put himself to sleep. Then Layne suggested to the unconscious Cayce that he look into his own body and discover the source of the problem. He did and soon replied that the throat muscles were paralyzed and recommended increasing the circulation of blood into the area by mental suggestion. Layne took the cue and made the hypnotic suggestion. Soon afterward Cayce´s throat turned bright red. After about 15 minutes, the throat area returned to the normal pink color. He then woke up and spoke clearly for the first time in months.


The next day Cayce put himself to sleep and analyzed Dr. Layne´s stomach problems. Cayce´s diagnosis corresponded exactly with what various doctors had told Layne, but his recommended treatments were quite different. Once awake Cayce was as amazed as Layne because he had never heard of the medicines he had prescribed in his sleep nor could he even pronounce some of the medical terms he had rattled off in his trance. This is all the more amazing since Cayce had only an elementary school education. None of this mattered to Layne who said that if these recommendations worked, their fortunes were made!


They did work, but Cayce never made his fortune. He started giving these "health readings" regularly in 1901. In the beginning he worked as the healer for Dr. Layne. Layne would look into a medical need, get the facts on a case, and give these details to Cayce. Then he would put himself under and speak the diagnosis to Layne who recorded it. Layne would then present the "prescription" or recommended treatment to the patient as his own. But word got out as to what was going on, and Cayce´s fame spread. As it did, the people and the questions came in from further and further away. Cayce was "well packaged," to use a modern concept. Many who would ordinarily never have considered visiting a psychic and would have labeled such powers "of the Devil" were lulled into a false sense of complacency by Cayce´s gentle demeanor, lifelong church involvement, and daily Bible reading. In truth, he was ultimately far more dangerous than he appeared.


The Healer´s Fame Spreads


Cayce began his readings in 1901. Two years later, after a six- year courtship, he married his sweetheart, Gertrude Evans. She was very supportive of the "work," as they called the readings. They were usually not paid for the readings and were often on the verge of poverty. Living that way wasn´t easy, but because they both believed that the readings were God´s special calling for Edgar--his life´s work--they persisted. They were gratified by the fact that people were clearly being healed physically--usually people that other methods and medical authorities had been unable to help. Though Cayce held several different jobs to provide for his family, photography served as his principal financial resource. He returned to it again and again.


At this point we need to examine more closely Cayce´s health readings. His usual method was to put himself to sleep and have someone read to him the name and address of the person needing a reading. He did not need to have the person present; even if he or she were hundreds, or even thousands, of miles away, he could "find" the person. Shortly after putting himself "under" and being told the name and address of the person needing the reading, the sleeping Cayce would say, "We have the entity" as if looking directly at the person in question. Notice the word we; it hints at the presence of a spirit or spirits. His inner sight was apparently better than scopes, x-rays, or cat scans because not only did he visually observe the problem, but he also "received" the desired course of treatment. While still "sleeping," he then described the medical or psychological problem to whoever was assisting him and gave recommendations for healing.


Cayce was able to help eye problems, injuries that led to complications, cancer, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, arthritis, gall stones, kidney stones, hay fever, mental and psychological problems, digestive problems, epilepsy, hemorrhoids, ulcers, psoriasis, and countless other conditions. His remedies usually involved one or more of the following: natural foods, physical massage, various oil rubs, chiropractic adjustments, ointments of various kinds, medicines that were common, or those that were rare, in disuse, or forgotten. Sometimes the treatments were very messy, inconvenient, and time consuming, but Cayce´s followers maintained that his healing average was close to 90% for those who persisted in following his advice.


He frequently described how to make certain medicines and poultices and once was even able to "find" in his mind´s eye a certain medicine high on a drugstore shelf behind other bottles. This was in another state! He could "see it" and was able to explain to others how to find it. This practice is sometimes called "remote viewing" and is related to astral projection or soul travel. Though such "viewing" episodes occasionally occur naturally (because of stress or sickness), they are usually associated with occultism. This ability gives even more concreteness to the term seer than we usually think of. It also reveals a definite linkage with his ability to see and read (with covers closed) whole pages in his school books following his vision of the shining lady with wings at age thirteen.


From 1901 to 1922 Edgar Cayce´s readings were aimed almost exclusively at finding medical answers for hurting people. Though his motives were admirable, his methods were suspect biblically. There is an uncomfortable similarity here to what mediums and channelers do--practices expressly forbidden in Scripture (Lev. 19:31). In spite of his biblical knowledge, he was not sensitive enough to the parallels between what he was doing and occultic practices. Perhaps he was so enamored by the healings and so thrilled by the attention and admiration that he was unwilling to question seriously the source of his power early in his career. This failing, seemingly innocuous at the beginning of his health readings, became very critical when he began the "life readings" a much more blatant and dangerous spiritual threat.


The Life Readings


Cayce´s biographers generally attribute his healing powers to an ability to tap into what they called the "Universal Mind" or "Universal Consciousness." However, the alert Christian who knows the Bible, and something of the spiritual realm, can easily pick up from Edgar Cayce´s biographies another explanation of his powers--evidences of demonic activity in his life. It was probably more difficult for Cayce himself to see these clues. Nevertheless, Cayce was aware enough to be concerned at times about the spiritual source of all of these powers and strange events, and he occasionally expressed these concerns. Usually, however, he expressed these concerns within his family and was always assured that everything was okay.


Up until 1923 there were two sides to Cayce. There was the Cayce who was orthodox: a church going, Bible reading, Sunday school teaching man who would have steadfastly defended Christ as the unique Son of God, the Bible as the Word of God, the reality of heaven and hell, and so on. Then there was the Cayce who had a family heritage of psychic abilities, a person who saw visions, heard voices, and who performed trance-style medical readings that looked suspiciously like what mediums do.


Somehow all these disparate beliefs were held together in one person until Cayce did his first "life reading" in 1923. For 22 years his readings had been almost exclusively devoted to medical or health issues. But after Arthur Lammers asked Cayce to do a reading for him in 1923 things changed. What Lammers did was probe the sleeping Cayce about astrology, mysticism, reincarnation, yoga, alchemy, theosophy, the cabala, the mystery religions, previous lives, and many other things related to the occult. When the reading was over and Cayce was able to read the answers he had given to the questions put to him by Lammers, he was amazed and frightened. These new readings supported all sorts of occultic beliefs. Cayce said to Lammers:


But what you´ve been telling me today, and what the readings have been saying, is foreign to all I´ve believed and been taught, and all I´ve taught others, all of my life. If ever the Devil was going to play a trick on me, this would be it.{8}



Cayce was deeply concerned about all this and especially about reincarnation. His instincts, trained by years of reading the Bible through, resisted. "But instead of following this intuition, Cayce accepted Lammer´s explanations on reincarnation and other matters and turned away from a literal interpretation of the Bible. Cayce´s faith in the readings completed the transition."{9} He believed so strongly in the truth of the health readings, that he reasoned (falsely) the new information from what he called "life readings" must also be true.


Lammers was able to convince Cayce that reincarnation was compatible with the Bible, and soon Cayce had swallowed it all. Once Cayce embraced reincarnation, he accepted many other occultic beliefs. In fact, reincarnation became so central to what Cayce came to hold that his whole belief system would totally crumble if reincarnation were proven to be false. Like most cultists and occultists, Cayce came to believe that Jesus was not the unique Son of God. He also claimed that Jesus was reincarnated 30 times before He became "the Christ."


An Evaluation of Edgar Cayce and His Legacy


Readings


Cayce did over 16,000 readings between 1901 and his death in 1945. The first 22 years were almost exclusively given over to health readings. After 1923 he added life readings, or perhaps more accurately, "past lives readings," and came to accept reincarnation and many occultic beliefs.


Evaluation: Cayce was a very effective healer and helped many people physically. We must ask, however, how many Christians and non-Christians paid a price spiritually for their spiritualistic healing and how many non-Christians never came to saving faith because of Cayce´s influence.


Prophecies


There is not been enough time in this essay to deal with Cayce´s prophecies such as California falling in the sea, New York sinking beneath the waves, and the lost continent of Atlantis rising out of the ocean, and so on.


Evaluation: That is just as well; Cayce was an abysmal failure as a prophet and a false prophet by biblical standards.


Personal: Deceived and Deceiving


Reading Cayce´s biographies reveals that no one could have set a better trap for a sincere, but naive, young man. Satan gave Cayce enough rope to hang himself. In a statement intended to explain his dilemma, Cayce said: "The power was given to me without explanation. I´ve tried to discover what to do with it. It´s been hit and miss, trial and error....it was just an odd trait that was useful in medicine.... That´s what I always thought, and against this I put the idea that the Devil might be tempting me to do his work by operating through me when I was conceited enough to think God had given me special power".{10}


Evaluation: But Cayce chose not to pursue this line of thought. Satan had to wait 22 years to turn Cayce into a unabashed promoter of the doctrines of demons and a rejector of Jesus Christ as the unique Son of God, but it was worth the wait. Fascination with Cayce has pulled many naive dabblers deep into occultism.


Association for Research and Enlightenment


The organization Cayce founded, the Association for Research and Enlightenment, or A.R.E., to house his readings and research medical cures, has become a hotbed for practically every occultic idea imaginable.


Evaluation: The A.R.E. and Cayce´s life readings offer a theology that is basically a revised version of the mystery religions of ancient Egypt, Chaldea, Persia, India, and Greece with a hint of Christian flavoring for palatability.{11} There is no way to estimate the spiritual darkness spread through the influence of the A.R.E.


Books and Biographies


Most people "get into" Cayce through reading books on the occult or prophecy or through reading biographies on Cayce.


Evaluation: We advise people not to read these works unless there is a real need to do so because they are very deceptive, dangerous, and have been spiritually harmful to many curiosity-seekers.


Conclusion


A passage from Those Curious New Cults captures the tragic legacy of this well-meaning but misguided man:


For a good portion of his life, Cayce was a commercial photographer. He understood very well the mechanics of his trade. A blank film is inserted, the shutter is snapped, and then the film is developed in the dark. The nature of a photograph, whether it is a formal family picture or pornography, depends not on the film but on the photographer who uses the camera. During his trances, Cayce´s mind was like a blank film that would be developed in the dark. I believe that Cayce allowed his camera to get into the wrong hands.{12}

Notes

Thomas Sugrue, There Is A River: The Story of Edgar Cayce (New York: Dell, a new Dell edition, 1961), 14.
Ibid., 38-39.
Jess Stern, Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping Prophet (New York: Bantam Books, 1968), 26-27.
Sugrue, 27.
Ibid., 23.
Stern, 27.
Sugrue, 23-24.
Edmond Gruss, Ouija Board, Doorway to the Occult, Presbyterian & Reformed Publishing Company, 1994.
Gruss, 181.
Sugrue, 210.
Ibid., 305.
William J. Peterson, Those Curious New Cults,Keats Publishing, 1982, p. 46.


© 1996 Probe Ministries
Anonymous Coward
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christianity and the bible is just a big control tool.

some of the most hate filled folk i know are christians.
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Topic is Edgar cayce Jr.
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ac-you dont read do you?

>>In this essay we will examine the life and work of Edgar Cayce, often called "the sleeping prophet." He was a demonically inspired prophet and healer very popular in the sixties and seventies.
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They accused Jesus of being the devil for healing people. Sickness comes from sin. Jesus replied that a house divided does not stand, meaning that since evil brings the sickness it cannot also heal the sickness. However, the devil himself can appear as an angel of light.

The history of saints is the history of people afflicted by the demonic. It would not surprise me at all that Cayce had the gift of healing and was also somewhat led into the occult. I do not think we know today what was really on his mind or the nature of his spirituality; but it is quite something by today´s standards that he wasn´t getting rich off of sick people (like Jesus) and as we see the charlatan doctors and ministers are.
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Well, we just don´t know, do we?

There are entities that are destructive, they can pretend to goodness, they can make long range plans, and they can wrap us right around their little fingers.

I have personal knowledge of the fact that playing with the spirits are dangerous, but it can be very confusing. How did God speak to the prophets? Through visions, through words, how? We don´t know, and consequently how can we condemn something that we don´t understand?

On the other hand, Cayce was very instrumental to the iplementation of the all is love and light new age sort of doctrines, albeit this occurred well after his death. But then most supernatural evil is planned far enough back for us not to easily associate the plan with the execution. And there is evil, and all is not all love and light.
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AC 7:29, what do you mean when you say the history of the saints is the history of those afflicted by the demonic? Are you saying that all the saints were possessed?
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cayce only did good. he lent his gift to the world, and suffered from it (it debilitated his health going into those trances) yet these idiots can only find fault with him
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To a man with jaundice, all appears yellow.
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OP, unless I misunderstood, you´re presenting the info to show how the dedicated work of one who helped so many can be twisted by religious fundies to be evil - right?


Since the work of Cayce was proven accurate in so many ways religon had to declare it as evil. They sure don´t want people to figure out that they are so powerful or they couldn´t control them. Many teachers, such as Jesus, have tried to do the same and their message has been corrupted.

When will people ever figure out that what Jesus said was the truth: "All that I do you can do, and more"

Even when Jesus said it the church has people convinced that anyone who claims that God-given power has to be evil.
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"Many have been my references to America as being Atlantis come again; much hath in a general way been said of the beginning, rise, growth and destruction of that ancient prototype; a hint hath been here and there given, rather by inference than by specific statement, that while America should peer and even more than Atl [Atlantis], just because she is Atl returned on a higher plane, she must endure the woes as well as retrace her pre-carnate glories. ..."

"During many, many centuries prophecy hath looked forward to the end of the Age as a time of awful woe, and has pictured dread scenes of terminal horror. Am I come to say that all these predictions shall fail? Is the book of the Apocalypse mere allegory? Would it were! But the Poseid age [the last Atlantean civilization] was stricken, this one must also be which has just passed. Shall America, the Glorious, together with the rest of the world, meet similar woe? Alas, worse, though not by water but by fire. ..."

"Man is his own judge and executioner. Man is the type and the universe is the print; Nature patterns after Man, not Man after Nature. He, being of free-will, hath brought all coming woes of judgement to be inevitable; he must endure, as he hath sown; so must he reap. O Man! Forgetter of Love, of Mercy, of Right; breeder of Hate, of Cruelty, and of the inhumanity that hath and still doth make countless millions mourn, is it possible that thou hast been blind to the handwriting on the wall? Alas, yes, thou hast! Rampant is the Spirit of selfishness, of greed, of merciless gain; its hand guides the trains and steamers, clicks the telegraph keys, operates the telephone and cables, makes a mockery of free speech, shackles the press so that it dares to utter only that which cannot offend its master; every human enterprise, all national policies and international comities, all things, even the churches, are willing vassals to this fiend, SELF. ..."

"This inhuman picture is the rule, not the exception. Thou knowest this full well. I state nothing new in this regard, and the awful facts are underdrawn instead of exaggerated. All of this, although in far, far less degree, has been so at the ending of every age, was so in Poseid and is therefore now repeated. But it can never be so again after this for HERE THE WAY DIVIDES. Poseid survived; so also shall they of the Sixth Age. In the full time by fire the Reaper shall reap, and no place be found for physical safety by the unchanged of heart. But the time of it shall be foreshortened, else no flesh could remain alive. Satan from under! The roar of armed hosts must succeed the thunderous mutterings of the times. No more is there any chance to prevent the coming retribution (albeit it may seem unduly deferred), for the causes have had their way. Too late is it to even modify the result of the misguidance of that Spirit whose hand sways the helm. A short but sharp conflict, sanguinary past belief, even now reddens on the horizon. The trained armies, millions of men active or in reserve, that are now engaged in conquest, fevered with war, will but little longer, comparatively, submit to having themselves and loved ones ground under the heel and strangled by the hand of that organized thing, Capital, which, itself merely the natural fruit of selfishness, none the less is a riotous animal principle, compelling the few to be masters of the many, denying the God-born declaration that all men are created free and equal, and warping it to seem a giant lie. Soon millions of trained soldiers will turn upon the visible representatives, the wealthy and worldly prosperous, who in reality are not more responsible than will be their assailants, of that Relentless Force behind all human enterprise. Later they will break up into lawless bands bent on satisfying Ishmaelitish [Ishmael was the son of Abraham who was sent away and later became the progenitor of the Arab race] tendencies, each self-server´s hand weaponed against his fellow creatures. Then will the pent-up hate, the savagery and selfishness begotten by ages of selfishness ruled by unbridled animalism break in a storm such as the world hath never yet seen, no, not during all the ages I scan, ages forgotten for untold thousands of years. That loveless conflict will initiate that which, Nature completing, will leave living one where now are many. Hard and fast after the human conflict will come pestilence unparalleled, sweeping the wide earth over, for in that day none will pause to bury the slain until the evil is wrought, nor then, for the dead of the plagues will be as thousands for every one by violence. And all this because the love that should grace and soften men´s hearts, each for all and all for each, dried up and became a mockery in the close of the ended cycle, leaving by scattered oases, few and far between. Nature follows Man. Wherefore the waters of Earth will dry out, rains be withheld, cyclones sweep, and an earthquake come such as was not since man was on the earth; aye, I am mindful of Poseid. But all of this will occur only through natural causes, and in consonance with the selfishness, lust, greed, anger and general depravity of the Type. As these blaze in the human breast, so shall the air, dry and vaporless under brazen skies, develop solar heats more fierce than history ever knew. A parched earth, furnace-like, piling all flesh mountains high; pestilences stalking unchecked. O ye! Blind to the Handwriting on the wall, which flickers still, though writ for a spent cycle. Turn now and read, while yet the last midnight stroke reverberates.

"The disciples asked the Great Master, saying: "Teacher, when will these things be?" And He said: " ... When you see surrounded by encampments the Jerusalem, then you may know that has come near the desolation ... For days of vengeance these are, to be fulfilled of all the judgements."

"Friends, know ye the meaning of the name Jerusalem? That it meaneth "Vision of Peace?" Verily, so it doth. One by one during the years all the signs of the end of the Age but one were fulfilled; but these were "only the beginning of sorrows," for still the Spirit of Liberty abode here and there in the breasts of lovers of their fellowmen. The Spirit wrapped itself in the glorious folds of the Stars and Stripes and proclaimed the imperishable declaration of human equality, granting unto all that freedom which Americans for themselves demanded. But now the "Vision of Peace" is finally encompassed by armies, the last gap being filled with blue-coated soldiers forcing Mammon´s commercial shackles upon alien peoples in tropical islands. Ah, the Starry Flag droops mournfully low above the freedom-birthright sold for a mess of pottage. My People, O my People! As ye have sown, so must ye reap. The Vision of Spiritual Peace is wholly clouded by the dust of armed camps, and no gap is left unobscurred. "The shall the end come." A Son hath continually called from on High:

"Stand from under! Get into the shelter of that Cross:"

"In all the expiatory time must indeed those who thought no wrong suffer? Ah, thought no wrong. In every life, whether theist´s, atheist´s or merely one ignorant of any doctrine of belief, there comes a time when the inward Spirit beseeches the soul to go up higher. It pleads again and again and yet again so long as faintest hope remains. Ommission too, hath its penalty: "How shall we escape if we neglect so great salvation?" echoed throughout the past Age. Fire burns a babe´s fingers as badly as it does and adult´s. There shall not suffer, not even though bodily death overtake them; they have no Karma to expiate.

"What is the Cross? What is Christ? I have said, long ago, but I will re-state it: the Divine stream of Life, the Indefinable God, that is the long arm of the Living Cross. Directed, purposed Human Will is the short arm. This will power is our call upon His Name that is never denied. Jesus, the Man of Nazareth, gave us pattern. He sacrificed self for us. He said: :Follow me." Also: " if any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me." ..."
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>>OP, unless I misunderstood, you´re presenting the info to show how the dedicated work of one who helped so many can be twisted by religious fundies to be evil - right?


correct
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Cayce devoted his adult life to helping people
without charge, and somebody puts a spin on his
life as consorting with demons?

Who did the "channelers" (prophets) of the bible
channel? How come they are good and godly and
the modern ones bad?
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UnfrigginBelievable


this clearly shows how desperate these people are to keep that knoose on the unsuspecting. the controllers wouldn´t want their followers to discover that God lies within and not in their greedy bible-thumpin preachers


blahblah
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A few years ago a private investigator/researcher went through the Cayce Foundation archives and tried to trace any of the distant patients he supposedly helped/healed. Turns out no-one was traceable in any way shape or form.

Another fucking fraud just like Sai baba.
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How insidious! How evil!

A demonic spirit helping a young lad with his spelling!
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hmmmmmmmmmm who said "beware of false prophets"

Reading responses throughout GLP, one can determine quit easily, that the depth of knowledge of those who partake in Christian bashing surely haven´t walked the planet long enough to know diddly! But, the good side is, 93% of the population believes in GOD, 85% believe Jesus walked among men, down to 55% believe the bible to be true and accurate. Looks like you pinko, commie, whacko´s have a long ways to go to disrupt faith of centurys!

Best part is even non church goers who believe become galvanized in their faith when understanding, Chritianity is being attacked. So to all you who hate the faithful, keep it up...
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
hey jonk. you can back up that claim with a link, right?


there are far too many documented cases that support his healings. further, the proof is in the perverbial pudding---his perscriptions still work!
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.
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The anti-performance crowd think satanicahy and hold capacities and talents in disdain. That is their freedom of choice but don´t let it worry you. Your own value will exist in all eternity from the value-consciousness of your performances. You are what you do in this life forever.
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
>>Probe Ministries


lmao
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
It was in Nexus magazine. The fella had a nightmare convincing the staff to let him in to peruse the files going back decades ago.

Get in touch with Duncan Roads at Nexus magazine if you want. Sorry, but I´ve got a couple of hundred Nexus mags and shit I don´t know where to start looking for it.

Ask Duncan. He´ll know. There´s no link. The article was around before the net was real popular and doubt anyone at Nexus transcribed it; the authors themselves have to do that before they get published in Nexus.

It might exist on the net, do a search. I´ll look in the next couple of days if I remember.
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
Navigator, a bible worshiper is not a christian.

Edgar Cayce was a devout christian. He went to service he read his bible regularly and he did his best to emulate Christ.

So what´s your problem with Cayce? Is it because he doesn´t tell people that the final word is the bible, but Christ?

I worship God, I do my best to follow Christ´s teachings, and I use the bible as a guide.

To do anything else is hypocritical if one is a Christian.
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>>The anti-performance crowd think satanicahy and hold capacities and talents in disdain. That is their freedom of choice but don´t let it worry you. Your own value will exist in all eternity from the value-consciousness of your performances. You are what you do in this life forever

your words hold much value. the problem is this type of mentality is forcing it´s belief upon the rest of the world with dangerously excessive levels of force- as has been done on numerous occasions throught out history.
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
AC 9:39

I am very familiar with Edgar Cayce´s works, but your lengthy dissertataion is not compatible with any CAYCE work that I am familiar with. If you are quoting CAYCE material, please cite the source. If you are citing from another source, please cite that source as well.

Otherwise, confusion reigns
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
>>A few years ago a private investigator/researcher went through the Cayce Foundation archives and tried to trace any of the distant patients he supposedly helped/healed. Turns out no-one was traceable in any way shape or form.


could it be because they have all passed away? how many people do you know that are still alive from the 30´s?

jonk----->dumbass and desperate
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Re: Edgar Cayce: The Sleeping (False) Prophet-A look into the paranoid minds and censorship-promoting Fundamentalists
rolleyes
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AC 7:33 No, I am not saying that the historical saints were possessed - I said afflicted. Those who wage spiritual war on God´s side are subject to spriritual attacks from the enemy. Read about St. Jerome. There were many others, one of the Catherines, St. Teresa of Avila.

The devil leaves you alone when you are not threatening his status. The vast majority of Churchianity persons do more harm than good and suffer no attacks from evil since they are promoting its causes. A real saint usually has many such battles.
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Read directly from Cayce himself, he has only been gone a short time so his words ar etheir to read and then make your own mind up, you need not listen to rhetoric spun this or that way.

The readings are available in many formats, discernment is yours if you are willing to read and experience.
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