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HR threatening me with “separation” over COVID testing

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 09:54 AM
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OP start here: [link to myfloridalegal.com]

Report them and follow the steps.

It's illegal in Florida.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79849392


Yes, thank you. I have already spoken to someone there and at the governor’s office. I will need to file a complaint through a new division they have created specifically for this. The Florida statute religious exemption reads specific to vaccination, not testing. It is still something I may pursue regardless. Not sure how long the complaint process will take.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 09:56 AM
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I’m not even sure a Florida company will be able to do ANYTHING regarding the osha mandate…

It is a fine, punishable up to 5k for each infraction.

YOU CANNOT ASK SOMEONE FOR THEIR VACCINE STATUS IN FLORIDA.

Just report the company, or post the company here and I will report them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227


Please check back here the next couple of days. If this turns ugly, I will definitely post the company name and info. I trust that this community here has my back, thank all of you for your suggestions and support.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 09:59 AM
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Options OP:

1. Report them under the statute that was passed in the summer of 2021 saying that businesses cannot ask for vaccination status… this was worded a bit open, most imply it’s only for employees but I would say the law can be interpreted many ways…

2. In November 2021 another statute was passed forcing businesses to accept religious exemptions. So they MUST accept your exemption.

3. Right of refusal under EAU. I posted the link above, under EAU they MUST MUST MUST give you the right to refuse… it’s not a question…

The only reason these businesses are doing this is because the employees don’t know their own rights…

Stand up for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78914227


I’m on it, you are lighting a fire under my ass! Sick today anyways lol, going to cook some ribs and learn the law. Let’s all stick together on this! I will detail my ordeal until there is a resolution one way or the other.
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01/12/2022 10:01 AM
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Live and work in Florida. Obviously we have a strong leader as Governor who is supporting and protecting employees from vaccination damage. My HR department has been enforcing the OSHA mandate since last week which means I must provide a certified COVID test result each week at my expense to be able to work. I am a literal rock star with the owner and my team at this company for over 10 years. The customers that I have worked for have sent glowing emails and testimonials on my behalf. So basically I am being blacklisted now over refusing testing and threatened with “separation”. I caved in to testing last week as an out of town job had already been scheduled with per diem and paid hotel stay. Now I have a respiratory infection, wicked ear infection, and Laryngitis. Had to go to Urgent Care for drops snd antibiotics again at my expense and can’t be paid sick days because I’m not COVID tested this week! I have voiced my reasoning (including my wife’s heart condition) to avoid testing centers as obviously infected individuals are there putting us at risk. I tested negative and was perfectly healthy. 36 hours after testing I became sick with chest congestion and now full blown ear infection and Laryngitis. Coincidence? Hardly. Worked 77 hours last week while sick to complete the project and there has been ZERO empathy or care of my concerns, efforts, and now illness that THEIR policy has caused. Now I am threatened with termination. The SCOTUS had better decide Thursday according to law and the Constitution and not fake news and propaganda or I’m fucked……
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78357678


I want more Americans like you to stand up and make your own small business. F This. Don't take it. And we need to put fate into our own hands and out of the stick-in-the-ass big businesses that run our country.
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01/12/2022 10:01 AM
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Threaten them to retaliate and proportionally damaging them if they even try.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 10:01 AM
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Re: HR threatening me with “separation” over COVID testing
Can you buy your own spit tests and use them? I mean, they have no right to say a test that has the same accuracy is not acceptable. Maybe supply your own swab?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79190023


They will only accept lab certified tests. I am also standing up against this being my financial responsibility as well as an invasion of my privacy. Done. We ALL need to say no and fight back. I am doing my part.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 10:03 AM
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I will have same issues if court let’s this go, good paying job gone: not going to do this shit!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 10:09 AM
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My wife has been working remote/home for 2 years, her company wants weekly testing even though she hasn’t stepped foot in a company owned facility in two years. Her employer just keeps saying “no employee is remote.”

These HR departments are run by f’ing idiots, she asked for religious exemption and HR replied back with “we aren’t requiring you take the vaccine, just the weekly testing” but in their original email it states “you can seek religious exemption from mask, testing and vaccine” lol.

Just FYI, religious exemption can cover weekly testing as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81051488


I would send that company a bill for reimbursement of rent and cleaning services.

I’m working in their office?
Then They should pay for their office space.
 Quoting: burneracct


Office space, internet (if needed for work), electric, water, and whatever else a workplace would provide. Some that have gone to mostly remote workers have been giving compensation.

OP, I was tested a few times in 2020 and yes you can have complications. On my last test I have had issues with Vertigo. Never had vertigo before in my life, but for a while was having issues, 2x full blown vertigo and a few times where I could feel I might get it so started taking meds. My sinuses and ears had fluid. I know they went too far in one nostril, it hurt for weeks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77391584



Yes, too risky to test. I don’t trust the kits either. There is an agenda at play here involving money and nefarious policies and just like in War Games, safest move is not to play……
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 10:10 AM
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I will have same issues if court let’s this go, good paying job gone: not going to do this shit!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81676504


clappa
Deplorable Zenobia

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01/12/2022 10:19 AM

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Per the OSHA FAQ the testing mandate is not in effect until 2/9/22.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80569083


This is their policy. I already had said last week it wasn’t in effect and they said that their policy stands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78357678


Question method of testing due to simple fact that the prevailing testing used last couple of yrs has been kicked to the curb as of 12/31st. Kicked to the curb due to how the test was throwing insane % of false positives.

So, what manner of testing are they requiring in light of this fact?
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

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Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 10:24 AM
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dude youre at least not being forced to to take the vaccine and given the option to test weekly. it is a no-brainer!
 Quoting: Haitian Born


Come on man.. The tests are just as bad or worse than the vax.. It is designed to destroy the olfactory nerves.
 Quoting: ThisSucks


That's what I don't get is people who fight tooth and nail against vaccines yet so willingly accept the tests which are just as bad.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 10:30 AM
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Re: HR threatening me with “separation” over COVID testing
Per the OSHA FAQ the testing mandate is not in effect until 2/9/22.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80569083


This is their policy. I already had said last week it wasn’t in effect and they said that their policy stands.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78357678


Question method of testing due to simple fact that the prevailing testing used last couple of yrs has been kicked to the curb as of 12/31st. Kicked to the curb due to how the test was throwing insane % of false positives.

So, what manner of testing are they requiring in light of this fact?
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


That is a big part of the hypocrisy isn’t it? A flawed PCR test that started the whole “pandemic” and fear mongering is now regarded as antiquated. I will take the gloves off after the decision Thursday. There is EVERYTHING riding on this decision and our refusing to participate in this charade. The economy and supply chain are already on the brink.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 10:31 AM
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The test I took was a rapid PCR according to the paperwork. Everyone else was walking out still testing positive.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 10:36 AM
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dude youre at least not being forced to to take the vaccine and given the option to test weekly. it is a no-brainer!
 Quoting: Haitian Born


This is how this monstrous crime is perpetrated, with bogus testing. A society where it is assumed by defauld that you are sick unless you prove you are not is a nightmare your children will blame you for not standing up to.
PEACE_IN_UKRAINE

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01/12/2022 10:49 AM
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Tell them it makes no sense to get a vaccine for a virus which is no longer in circulation. Tell them you’ll consider it when the new strain vaccine comes out in March.

If you have high risk factors such as age over 50, overweight, diabetes, systemic disease, on more than four medication‘s, lung disease, you should seriously consider getting vaccinated because it will protect you from hospitalization and or death.

Make sure your vitamin D levels are really good, and make sure you know the phone number for the nearest infusion center. Because remember once you were hospitalized you cannot receive the monoclonal antibodies. You must receive these as an outpatient so you cannot waste time does she get diagnosed do you need to know this information in advance.
PEACE_IN_UKRAINE
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01/12/2022 11:01 AM
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Re: HR threatening me with “separation” over COVID testing
dude youre at least not being forced to to take the vaccine and given the option to test weekly. it is a no-brainer!
 Quoting: Haitian Born


This is a sad example of how far we've fallen in less than two years. People like you believe that discriminating against those who choose not to take an experimental injection is just fine. You're the no-brainer.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:08 AM
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77 hours eh? That's like 16 or so hours every day, xD sounds fun.

Cool story muh brudda
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:14 AM
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If you truly are a Rock Star then it shouldn't be a problem moving to a company that is in need of person with your skill set, at a higher compensation level too!!

Good luck OP!!
Gnome6969

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01/12/2022 11:16 AM
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Take the HR person to a remote closet and have a little, "Chat", Hire a person to take pics of their children and show them the photos, it is called fear and intimidation and it works. The caveat is you have to have the balls to follow through.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 11:32 AM
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77 hours eh? That's like 16 or so hours every day, xD sounds fun.

Cool story muh brudda
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77380550


Want a screenshot of the time entries? Ever worked 7 straight days in your life before? Some people actually really work for a living. When I’m on the road like this installation it is weekend work as well. Thank you for contributing.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:40 AM
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Get up on the HR desk, drop your pants and take a dump. Drop some fecal matter right there. Then scream as loud as you can , "SECURITY!" the HR rep is sexually harassing me. When security shows up, remain on the desk sobbing while extracting magic markers and pens from your anus.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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01/12/2022 11:40 AM
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If you truly are a Rock Star then it shouldn't be a problem moving to a company that is in need of person with your skill set, at a higher compensation level too!!

Good luck OP!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80570749


Thank you. It is the circumstances that are revealing true colors of management and ownership. They are throwing away years of faithful and honest service over this medical tyranny. That’s the point I’m making. I realize that I can be replaced by a “body” and the company will go on but they will feel the loss no doubt.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:41 AM
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Stop being so fucking stupid and selfish and just get vaccinated and get tested and wear a mask!!
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:43 AM
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dude youre at least not being forced to to take the vaccine and given the option to test weekly. it is a no-brainer!
 Quoting: Haitian Born


Everyone should get vaccinated and boosted and get tested daily and wear a mask or actually triple mask at least of not quadruple masking.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:48 AM
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dude youre at least not being forced to to take the vaccine and given the option to test weekly. it is a no-brainer!
 Quoting: Haitian Born


no it isnt,,,,i wouldnt submit to testing at all....its grossly illegal
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 11:50 AM
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OP start here: [link to myfloridalegal.com]

Report them and follow the steps.

It's illegal in Florida.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79849392


Yes, thank you. I have already spoken to someone there and at the governor’s office. I will need to file a complaint through a new division they have created specifically for this. The Florida statute religious exemption reads specific to vaccination, not testing. It is still something I may pursue regardless. Not sure how long the complaint process will take.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78357678



why do u think they shive that shit so far up ur nose to the cribiform plate?....the swabs have been postively shown to have morgellons fibers on them
Daozen

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01/12/2022 11:52 AM

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OP can you home PCR test? That can save a lot of hassle.
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Deplorable Zenobia

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01/12/2022 12:06 PM

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Re: HR threatening me with “separation” over COVID testing
OP, this other strategy has been bandied about here at the cyber bar but you could also challenge by stating factually based upon the red-tape definition of the whys-n-wherefores of this kind of testing, ask 'em when the hell are they gonna' include testing for every single known to man contagious thing out there? Why all the discriminatory hostile action towards the gen pop over the 'Rona?

See how that works? tounge
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Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 12:17 PM
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Everyone has to do things to support their family and survive, I get that. But life is short, Op. Do you really want to spend your days working for a company that shows “ZERO care or concern” for your welfare? Take it as a sign that it’s time to move on and find a better place.
Anonymous Coward
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01/12/2022 12:20 PM
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Stop being so fucking stupid and selfish and just get vaccinated and get tested and wear a mask!!
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stfu





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