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Understanding and Breaking Down the Supreme Court Ruling on OSHA Mandates ----- Key Parts --- Everyone Should Be Proud and Empowered

 
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CVS only implemented the Vaxx requirement under duress if major fines by OSha. They will remove it guaran damn teed
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The same should hold true for children in schools .
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And our medical industry workers.

My wife resigned when the University required her (an administrator) to get jabbed.

Save our children and neighbors.
 Quoting: Redcat1


That's going to be a gray area IMO, because they are not solely funded by the government or by Medicaid, or medicare, nor are they a medical facility. You might have legal recourse in the near future. As this gets some momentum, I'd keep your eye's out for a law firm handling these cases soon.

Sorry to hear that happened to your wife.
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Justice Gorsuch concurring:


"Historically, such matters have been regulated at the state level by authorities who enjoy broader and more general governmental powers. Meanwhile, at the federal level, OSHA arguably is not even the agency most associated with public health regulation. And in the rare instances when Congress has sought to mandate vaccinations, it has done so expressly. E.g., 8 U. S. C.
§ 1182(a)(1)(A)(ii). We have nothing like that here."
 Quoting: Mangia


Translated:

"The idiot that brought this before us needs to repeat first and second year law school."

Schooled by a Supreme Court justice. Ouch.
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I'm not a lawyer, however, I do understand the legal jargon, so I'll try to put it in some layman's terms.


Why OHSA and Congress got their asses handed to them, and now is Supreme Court Case Law forever, so no turning back. All the political Karen's and Ken's in power screwed themselves by ignoring the separation of powers, previous case law, legal doctrines, and the US constitution.

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Congress Failed and so did OSHA:

Justice Gorsuch concurring: page 11/30


"And when it comes to that obligation, this
Court has established at least one firm rule: “We expect
Congress to speak clearly”
if it wishes to assign to an executive agency decisions “of vast economic and political significance.” Alabama Assn. of Realtors v. Department of
Health and Human Servs., 594 U. S. ___, ___ (2021) (per curiam) (slip op., at 6) (internal quotation marks omitted). We sometimes call this the major questions doctrine. Gundy v.United States, 588 U. S. ___, ___ (2019) (GORSUCH, J., dissenting) (slip op., at 20).

OSHA’s mandate fails that doctrine’s test. The agency
claims the power to force 84 million Americans to receive a
vaccine or undergo regular testing. By any measure, that
is a claim of power to resolve a question of vast national
significance. Yet Congress has nowhere clearly assigned so much power to OSHA. Approximately two years have
passed since this pandemic began
; vaccines have been
Cite as: 595 U. S. ____ (2022) 3"
 Quoting: Mangia


And the 3 Affirmative Action Obama hires voted for it.
Thank fuck for the 6 who can actually READ.
 Quoting: Logan Five


Figures.
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Poor Federal Workers.

The only ones left for biden to kill!
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I didn't give a breakdown on dissenting opinions.


Here it is in a nutshell. Hope everyone can understand.


"WHHHAAAA!, whining, WHHHAAA! emotional deflection, Whaaaa! cognitive dissonance BS Blah, Blah, Blah, and lastly everything but upholding the constitution of the USA"


blahblah5



They need to go.
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The same should hold true for children in schools .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80320766


clappa
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I didn't give a breakdown on dissenting opinions.


Here it is in a nutshell. Hope everyone can understand.


"WHHHAAAA!, whining, WHHHAAA! emotional deflection, Whaaaa! cognitive dissonance BS Blah, Blah, Blah, and lastly everything but upholding the constitution of the USA"


blahblah5



They need to go.
 Quoting: Mangia


rofl
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Tell me this? What fucking part of this am I supposed to be proud of since they ruled for Healthcare workers to lose their jobs instead? They should have did both,

THIS IS NOT A FUCKING WIN! They fucked you anyways and you have no clue what is about to happen now
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Proud and empowered when any amerikan can be forced to take an experimental drug????? Fuck you!
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I still have to test weekly at my job in Texas.
 Quoting: EyesWideShut14


Even OSHA would have allowed for medical and religious exemptions from testing and masks. Why not submit a religious exemption?
 Quoting: Truth2free


I’m not sure what kind of religious exemption to come up with to not test. They want to know the specific religion.
[/quote

Title VII of the '64 Civil Rights Act define religion well enough.

(j) The term "religion" includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business.
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Most Delta employees have been ignoring the weekly testing. They can kiss my ass.
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I still have to test weekly at my job in Texas.
 Quoting: EyesWideShut14


Even OSHA would have allowed for medical and religious exemptions from testing and masks. Why not submit a religious exemption?
 Quoting: Truth2free


I’m not sure what kind of religious exemption to come up with to not test. They want to know the specific religion.
[/quote

Title VII of the '64 Civil Rights Act define religion well enough.

(j) The term "religion" includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business.
 Quoting: EyesWideShut14


religious exemptionv2.pdf
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Even OSHA would have allowed for medical and religious exemptions from testing and masks. Why not submit a religious exemption?
 Quoting: Truth2free


I’m not sure what kind of religious exemption to come up with to not test. They want to know the specific religion.
[/quote

Title VII of the '64 Civil Rights Act define religion well enough.

(j) The term "religion" includes all aspects of religious observance and practice, as well as belief, unless an employer demonstrates that he is unable to reasonably accommodate to an employee's or prospective employee's religious observance or practice without undue hardship on the conduct of the employer's business.
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position of our church toward all vaccines is based on God’s commandments in the bible. In short, vaccines are a sin because they are unclean according to the bible and they contaminate the temple of God (which is our bodies according to the bible)1 in the same fashion as smoking, drinking, drug use, fornication, and so on.2 We literally do not differentiate between injecting heroin and injecting a vaccine, each is wicked, as neither compound is injected to heal someone who is actually sick.3
As to all vaccines, the CDC website discloses all vaccines contain foreign material that God did not intend for the human body to ingest and which are unclean. This would generally include those vaccines the FDA discloses were developed from or tested on the remains of an aborted child, is manufactured from primate kidneys, or contains the blood of newborn calves (“newborn calf bovine serum”).4 That, in and of itself makes the vaccines unclean according to the bible.5 However, the inserts for virtually all of the typical vaccines describe other unclean ingredients including the virus or bacteria itself, as well as preservatives such as mercury, aluminum salts, formaldehyde, and PEG.6
However, the three Covid-19 vaccines currently approved as an experiment by the FDA,7 are unclean according to the bible because they contain not only contain PEG8 which is an extract from petroleum9 and is used to lubricate metal10 and preserve wood11, but also the genetic material from a virus.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines contain virus mRNA. According to the National Genome Research Institute, mRNA “is a single-stranded RNA molecule that is complementary to one of the DNA strands of a gene.”12 The virus mRNA in the Covid-19 vaccines is designed to infect a person’s cells and mutate the cell so that it will produce an organ of the SARS-CoV-2 virus called the “spike protein.”13 The spike proteins are what the virus uses to infect human cells.
The Johnson & Johnson version is slightly different, in that it is a living cold virus that has been packed with foreign DNA, instead of mRNA. The cold virus infects the patient’s cells and then places the DNA inside the nucleus of the patient’s human cells to get them to start manufacturing the mRNA for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein organ.14
All three vaccines, then, use DNA or mRNA to get the cells to treat the diseased of Covid-19. According to the American Society of Gene + Cell Therapy, all three vaccines are examples of “gene therapy” technology because “gene therapy is the introduction, removal or change in genetic material—DNA or RNA—into the cells of a patient to treat a specific disease.”15
Therefore, injection of DNA/mRNA into the human body is not only an injection of an unclean virus, but the act is designed to alter God’s creation by causing a human cell to start making virus parts. God brought “forth living creatures after its kind”16 meaning He created each animal using a particular DNA so that only horses bring forth horses, human bring forth humans, and so on. Mixing DNA or mRNA so that a human brings forth a virus’ organ violates God’s law, and called an abomination by God.17
No Christian should allow himself to be injected with a substance which would cause his body to manufacture a different species’ body part. Our church recognizes that there are gene therapies

being developed to use human DNA/RNA to be repair diseased organs, however, the Covid-19 vaccines are gene therapy that involve introducing a different species’ RNA to alter our human cells to mix and produce a different species.
Finally, each of the three Covid-19 vaccines were developed using the cells of aborted children. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine had its confirmatory lab tests on the “PER.C6” cells taken from the eyes of a baby murdered18 by abortion in 198519, while the Pfizer20 and Moderna21 confirmatory lab tests were done on the “HEK 293” kidney cells of a baby murdered by abortion in 1973.
All human beings are created in God’s image22 and we are each known by God even before we are formed in the womb.23 The bible tells us that confirms that a preborn baby’s life carries the same value as life outside the womb, thus there is no distinction between a “fetus” or a “baby” or any other “form” of human being.24 Every human being regardless of age is precious creation of God.
But the bible states it is the wicked that kill babies and the wrath of God is against them that do so.25 The bible says God “hates” those that kill babies26 and that it is a sin to allow babies to be murdered.27
Therefore we believe the Covid-19 vaccines are what the bible calls an “evil device”28 or an “evil thing”29 because it was created out of wickedness and sin and therefore should never be placed into the temple of God (our bodies). Moreover, the bible also says that a Christian should never profit or get a benefit from those that work in wickedness,30 so any advantage the vaccine would confer would still something stained with the blood of murdered children due to how they were developed.
1 1 Corinthians 6:19; 1 Corinthians 3:16-17; Luke 17:21
2 Leviticus 19:28; 1 Corinthians 6:18; Ephesians 5:18
3 Mark 2:17
4 [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] materials-used-vaccine-manufacturing-questions-and-answers
5 Job 14:4; 2 Corinthians 6:17; Leviticus 5:2; Ezekiel 4:14; Acts 15:29
6 [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)]
7 [link to www.fda.gov (secure)]
8 [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] groups/allergies.html
9 [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
10 [link to www.vantagegrp.com (secure)] af51eb34a365/Lumulse-PEG-300
11 [link to www.rockler.com (secure)]
12 [link to www.genome.gov (secure)] rna#:~:text=Messenger%20RNA%20(mRNA)%20is%20a,cytoplasm%20whe​re%20proteins%20 are%20made.
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Which branch of Government does the American Bar Association belong to?
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I see you've asked this a few times. Not sure exactly what you mean by the question, but the Bar Association is a private entity and doesn't belong to any branch of the US government.

Correct me if this doesn't answer the question.
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Would that be a conflict of interest? Only Licensed Attorney's can practice law in the courts.

No separation of powers.
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Just give it time. Wait for some more people to die and the news to eat it all up. Mandates for booster Omicron & Pi variant coming spring 2022.
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Robert Barnes finally posted on Locals, he's recovering himself.

And, his prediction 6/3 was completely accurate. Big Win.

AND THE MEDICARE PART THAT EVERYONE KEEPS WORRYING ABOUT, I KNEW HE'D SAY THIS.


THAT THE MEDICAL AND RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS, WHICH COVER EVERYONE LEGALLY WHO HAS STRONG MORAL OBJECTIONS THE VAXX FEDERALLY, AND SETS PRECEDENCE IN ANY COURT CASE, IS WORDED RIGHT IN THE DECISION ITSELF SO THAT MAY HAVE SEEMED LIKE WEAKENED, BUT HISTORICALLY THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE FOR MEDICAL WORKERS AND THEY HAVE WON IN THE PAST ROBUST RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS SO NO ONE COULD BE FORCED OR PUNISHED.
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The Constitution has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist. – Lysander Spooner
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In case, people haven't grasped the full impact of this ruling it was a historically political decision, that frankly saved us from Civil unrest, and maybe even a civil war. It also neutered so many liberals today, including their own 3 liberal justices it's not even funny. Even the 3 dissents say they didn't dissent what was in the ruling today, but something else.


We are absolutely living in a historic moment.
 Quoting: Mangia


There were millions of Americans ready to go to war over this. That's for sure.
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Still READY to die 'on that hill'

If grandmothers, Mothers, and Healthcare professionals must to make a point...we are STILL READY


Call Out to the Real Men still with us...

StayAlert;STAY READY

These overstepping tyrants will not cease only desist for a moment...

As the attention span of many is inundated and overwhelmed


#HoldTheLine

#IDoNotConsent

#IWitness
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I work at CVS and the company has a mandate where I need to be fully vaccinated by March 31st or I get fired. Does this ruling mean they can not force the vaccine anymore?
 Quoting: muaythaiguy1


That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
 Quoting: Mangia


I would love to see the grin on your face next time you stroll into work! I'm a fed so I'm still hanging onto whether or not they "issue an accommodation" for my beliefs with their unofficial Inquisition.
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That's exactly what it means. They cannot force businesses to mandate now. A win for you and many others.
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Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Sure anyone can force anyone to do anything if they submissively comply, however, that doesn't make it lawful, or legal now does it.

Lawyers suck until people need them, but these days we're going to need them more than ever. Submissive and apathetic people will always get bullied and tortured because that is the role they play, but that doesn't mean it's right, or legal. In this case, people have legal recourse to sue now.
 Quoting: Mangia


OSHA SAYS EMPLOYERS ARE LIABLE FOR MANDATED VACCINE DAMAGES AND CANNOT PENALIZE EMPLOYEES FOR REJECTING

"If you require your employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (i.e., for work-related reasons), then any adverse reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine is work-related. The adverse reaction is recordable if it is a new case under 29 CFR 1904.6 and meets one or more of the general recording criteria in 29 CFR 1904.7.
 Quoting: MrCoolone


I work for the Feds and we were just advised by the union VP to use worker's comp for any COVID related illness. I now wonder if they are preparing for damage control?
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Wrong - the GOVERNMENT can't force a business to force you.

The business can still force you if they want.
 Quoting: WifeOfHusband


Sure anyone can force anyone to do anything if they submissively comply, however, that doesn't make it lawful, or legal now does it.

Lawyers suck until people need them, but these days we're going to need them more than ever. Submissive and apathetic people will always get bullied and tortured because that is the role they play, but that doesn't mean it's right, or legal. In this case, people have legal recourse to sue now.
 Quoting: Mangia


OSHA SAYS EMPLOYERS ARE LIABLE FOR MANDATED VACCINE DAMAGES AND CANNOT PENALIZE EMPLOYEES FOR REJECTING

"If you require your employees to be vaccinated as a condition of employment (i.e., for work-related reasons), then any adverse reaction to the COVID-19 vaccine is work-related. The adverse reaction is recordable if it is a new case under 29 CFR 1904.6 and meets one or more of the general recording criteria in 29 CFR 1904.7.
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I work for the Feds and we were just advised by the union VP to use worker's comp for any COVID related illness. I now wonder if they are preparing for damage control?
 Quoting: Henricus



No, it's setting the victims up in a system designed to deny them healthcare or damages.

They gave the path for legislative vaccine mandates.
A blue state like California could easily pass one and require all who step a foot here to have their recent booster.

They also stated OSHA hasn't been authorized for health matters.

Easily fixed through that same legislature.
The medical folk is the foot in the door for required mandates.
There is an excuse for the government to step in too protect our weakest in the society for our own good.

They will own that meat mannequin of yours.

Come in contact with children or large crowds?
It will be required by legislative law.
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I work for the Feds and we were just advised by the union VP to use worker's comp for any COVID related illness. I now wonder if they are preparing for damage control?
 Quoting: Henricus


That doesn't sound good at all, because work comp won't cover enough if someone gets seriously ill for an extended timeframe. :(
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Poor Federal Workers.

The only ones left for biden to kill!
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Biden is very powerful. He's our generations Superman.
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Poor Federal Workers.

The only ones left for biden to kill!
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No, we were put on hold with the court rullings.
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what the SCOTUS did yesterday is a 3/4 lose for the Americans, it was pure charade of a decision

they decided like the Government can not enact the mandates, but private businesses can still do it, so if you're living in Liberal ruled areas, you're fucked

another point is, that hospitals that get the MEDICARE AND MEDICAID aid, means the Government is refunding 70% of their operating and servicing costs, will also have to mandate it per the SCOTUS ruling, so in essence

the plan is this, on the long run, they'll seek to destroy the small and medium businesses in order then for the Government to have the chance to bail them out, thus if they'll want the money that will save them from bankruptcy, you'll get the funds, but you'll need to take the jabs same as those above mentioned hospitals and the people working in them

it's basically a tool to destroy the Capitalism and usher in Communism, in the end, the agenda is to NATIONALIZE these businesses and operations, with one word, CORPORATIZATION (The result of corporatization is the creation of state-owned corporations (or corporations at other government levels, such as municipally owned corporations) of everything you know and in order to work, do businesses with them, you'll have to take the jabs, see how this works...the plebs always get fucked heh
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what the SCOTUS did yesterday is a 3/4 lose for the Americans, it was pure charade of a decision

they decided like the Government can not enact the mandates, but private businesses can still do it, so if you're living in Liberal ruled areas, you're fucked

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It's far from a loss, however, it does put the discretion back on the states, and as you say "if you're living in Liberal ruled areas, you're fucked".


People that live in liberal states are going to get their rights taken away, and many of them don't care. Cognitive dissonance is a real problem these days, so the people that can still process and understand they are losing their rights will have to make the decision to move from toxic areas of the USA.


We are truly a divided nation but rest assured it's mainly in the concentrated city areas, rural areas have a much different view, even in liberal hijacked states.





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