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Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair

 
CharlieFoxtrot
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Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
TEN HOURS to replace one sensor! Ford 150 torn to pieces! Evaporator Core replacement. This guy has to tear apart the dash and center console on this pickup to replace an AC assembly. The issue is a $20 sensor, which of course is not available for purchase, you have to buy the entire $1,000 evap core.

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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair


If you're fixing it yourself you are not contributing to the economy nearly as much as you should Einstein.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Electronic parts going to the shitter are the new (and by design slowly or swiftly chewing) "rust", that kills cars.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Build your own car
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
TEN HOURS to replace one sensor! Ford 150 torn to pieces! Evaporator Core replacement. This guy has to tear apart the dash and center console on this pickup to replace an AC assembly. The issue is a $20 sensor, which of course is not available for purchase, you have to buy the entire $1,000 evap core.


 Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot


Good post OP. Everyone with the means should own a pre-1980s car, especially preppers. EMP proof. Easy to repair. I myself own a 1971 Dodge and I love to start that engine and hear that baby purr…
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Mostly due to government regulations. Switching to EV will make their goal easier: govt is pricing you out of personal transportation.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
93 f350 diesel, all I need is 12V to open fuel silinoid and to crank.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
YEp. Been heading this way since the early 2000s. Now most cars are disposable because they essentially are not worth fixing very early in their existence.

The thing about this that really gets my goat: anyone bitching about the carbon footprint of my 25 year old jeep.

The auto industry wants you in a new car every 3 to 5 years. So that's 5 cars I DID NOT buy... the metal mining, the manufacturing and fabrication, shipping and delivery, etc.

Now you explain to me how keeping and fixing one 25 year old car contributes a larger carbon footprint than buying and using 5 throwaway cars over the same time period. We are surrounded by Idiots in idiocracy, slurping up, justifying, and championing whatever toxic narrative they've spoon fed to their own death and detriment, just like with the v a x.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
That's why I'm still driving a 2005 model 380000+ km VW Golf.

I can maintain it myself at one third of the cost of taking it to a shop. The spare parts are cheap and readily available, and it's fun to tinker with it.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
TEN HOURS to replace one sensor... to buy the entire $1,000 evap core.
 Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot

What to me seemed even more madness, was that the owner spend that sort of money on a repair, rather than just use the on / off switch to stop the evaporator coil frosting up.

But I guess climate control is so much better than operating a switch every 10 minutes.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Yep.

Wait until some youtuber has to diagnose the gigabit LAN that's in the new Grand Wagoneer, or realign the thermal night vision camera after mama bumps a parking pole with it.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Screw that, Ill just buy an extended warranty. I like my 2.7l V6 cranking out 450/450. I would never want to work on it though. cant even see the engine through all the wiring harnesses.
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Screw that, Ill just buy an extended warranty. I like my 2.7l V6 cranking out 450/450. I would never want to work on it though. cant even see the engine through all the wiring harnesses.
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Soon a very fancy chicken coop.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
All by design.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Scotty just did a video on a Silverado I believe with a similar issue, except it was a full week's labor and a $3500 repair or something like that. I'll look for the video.

AH the heck with it. He makes so many damn videos and they all have misleading titles, I'll never find it.

It was the same kind of issue though.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 01/18/2022 06:41 AM
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
LoL, I had a e36 BMW that had this sort of same sensor go bad.....40$ part online, was right next to accelerator pedal....1 plug, 2 torx bolts....fixed in 5min. wth Ford!
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Oh... and you can connect your phone to it as well. The really great part about that is when you take it in for service, they can download the what the car knows.

How long it's been running, how fast you drove it, where the car has been.... but best of all, everything your phone synced! Your calls, contacts, texts, web sites, and maybe emails too!
Your car dealer needs that information to make better cars tomorrow.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
It makes them $$$ being over engineered shit. They didn’t like people being able to fix their own cars.

Plus, when the EMP goes off, they will all be very expensive paper weights
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
"Regulations".

Plus, the new age business model is; customers don't own it when they buy it.

The IP (intellectual property) in the product remains the company's, therefore, it is now being argued that so does the actual product. You just get to pay for the use and maintenance (with their permission of course... permissions given through an integrated online network that NY device is connected to), of their product.

Seems fair.

In this new world, you pay to borrow things from the rich, so they don't care how long it takes you to get it (they're product) fixed for them... in fact, they own the repair shops too... so the longer, and more convoluted the process, the better!
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
when will people start to convert efi back to carby ?
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Best part is, soon "drivers" will be penalized for not fixing an issue quickly enough, with their product, that you are borrowing!

Is this the "right type of person" to be allowed to have control of such an expensive asset such as a car?

Lets check their Social Credit Score...

Only good little robots, that maintain our assets for us in a timely manner, get the privilege of driving one of our cars for us.

Soon we'll all be pigeon holed into the roles, and the daily schedule that they want for each of us.

All others' are dispensable.

If you look with eyes open, you can see how even repairing your car is slowly training you to accept increasing restrictions on your freedoms... but it's easier right? So we'll all be happy.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Ha, funny I found this. Just out 5:30 this morning to meet vendor at warehouse and personal vehicle 06/F150 lost power and I got to side of road. Last week I died at gas station and had jump pack and got it home both times. Not the battery or alternator. But you all are right, should next personal vehicle be even older than this? Perhaps yes!

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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
TEN HOURS to replace one sensor! Ford 150 torn to pieces! Evaporator Core replacement. This guy has to tear apart the dash and center console on this pickup to replace an AC assembly. The issue is a $20 sensor, which of course is not available for purchase, you have to buy the entire $1,000 evap core.


 Quoting: CharlieFoxtrot


My cars all ding constantly, If I could find those sounders I would cut them out.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
That's why I'm still driving a 2005 model 380000+ km VW Golf.

I can maintain it myself at one third of the cost of taking it to a shop. The spare parts are cheap and readily available, and it's fun to tinker with it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81378619


Diesel?

I drive an 02 VWGolf diesel and I am at 390,000 miles
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
In a restaurant they gave me an expresó machine almost new , that just quit working ,the thing is $700 on sale , it took me over a day to discover how to open it up , once opened I found a box with a fucking computer inside it , the company refused to give the owner a service manual , so to be short it was designed as a not even god can fix piece of shit
Brewville expresso cofey mschine


My advice , no serice manual don't buy it ...

ON CARS TESLA , BATTERY SELF FUCKS ON 3 YEARS ,

$40,000 for a new one

When I the fuck I will expend that money in gasoline ?

I am 70 and in all my life I had not spend not even

$20k in gas ....


So get an old no computer car , use aircraft magneto ignition and a vapor carburador and forget the electric car scam ripoff !

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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Holy crap that'salot of work....10.8 hours repair?

More like 10 .8 hours to just disassemble.

20 to reassemble: just watching this left me queasey. All the different sized hardware...
evap core goes its time to start mapquesting scrap yard directions or just drive sweaty.
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$1000 for a new head light assembly for a 2015 Mustang GT. It's plastic!
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Scotty comments on this absurd level of tech alot.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
Build your own car
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Biped , build your own biped
Bridge 2 bipeds with plank
Put recliner between bipeds
Now you can have 2 pedal stations while comfortably resting
0 electric, o gas
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93 f350 diesel, all I need is 12V to open fuel silinoid and to crank.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32403216


Ford/International IDI engines pretty much require glow plugs to get started if cold. Personally, I prefer the 12V Cummins.
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Re: Absurdity - What's wrong with modern cars - too much technology, too hard and expensive to repair
My Son`s 2018 nissan titan had abs light come on and speedometer quit working. They denied warranty because there was a crack in the tail light that filled with water. The egc harness and frame harness had corrosion at the connector under the passenger side towards the front. They claim water went from back left tail light to connector under passenger door. I removed the tail light and it was dry no corosion and the light still worked. Looking at 5000 to repair





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