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The Astral Layers are one of the most distorted and damaged of all of the time spaces.
Somehow here's new info about how the astral plane has been use to distort our 3D and keep the timelines going ... yes they abused soul fragments to cause great pain on us, everyone who says the astral plane is harmless and astral travels are oh so nice and exciting is either a deceiver or deceived themselves.


4D astral clean up- energy update
Posted February 10th, 2008 by shiva777

This may be a little heavy going for some of you ,to get the bigger picture go to
[link to www.energeticsynthesis.com]
and read the lifting your veils newsletters, if you are interested.I have been working with Lisa and this group for a few years now and lots of amazing work has been done....

blessings from Rick

Energetic Update for the 4D Astral Clean up Crew

Dear Family,

A quickie update for the post Sunday Meditation check in with our Group Network and Light Family!

For a while now….we have been mentioning the changes happening at each level of the dimensional scale within the Universal Time Matrix…. Describing that the Planetary System, and Universal Structure has implemented an aggressive movement forward in the evolutionary patterns of this system, largely out of necessity to retain its living light library and species memory. This is similarly described as the IMMUNITY functions of our Planetary body and its System have been systematically inoculated into each layer of the Universal Planes. This “Immune” action is very much like a organism survival mechanism, where as the permanent seed atom which contains the “Divine Blueprint” record of its original intention is brought back ONLINE, and these cellular record once opened also exists within each sub band level ( the 12 harmonics layers) of each dimension. These 12 sublayers are activated into SYSTEM OVERRIDE by the FIRE LETTERS that the divine blueprint relays through the instructional grids once it is relayed through the opened permanent seed atom. As every living thing has a permanent SEED atom ( The God SEED) blueprint structure, so does the Living Universal Layers of the Time Matrix.

And this is the phenomena of the dimensional and timeline collapse that we are experiencing now. Those of us on the Ascension B Timeline feel very much in a void space and have no ability to sense directionally what is next as these systems are collapsing……even future identities and parallel possibilities are collapsing now… as they can NO LONGER be energized. This is to carry us to the next level of our journey. As the record of the GOD SEED atom opens into each sub band and its harmonic layers across all space/time/dimension, it the feeds the Source energy ( Living Light Eternal Current aka Zero Point Fields) into each of these layers and as in the Laws of Harmonics, whatever does not resonate to its original pattern, then collapses. ( it radically shifts the reality systems and at times will completely COLLAPSE the structure, Destroying a space that has become so discordant to its original nature) This level of APPLIED Source Energy ( The center Point of All Union) has not had access to our Universal System in the neighborhood estimate of 250,000 years or so ( By Guardian best time application to our system of thought around time) This was partly because there was something called a WALL IN TIME that places us in a One Way Portal System that made our Reality very much like an encased Fish Bowl. We had no way to leave here until we reached this end of the Ascension Cycle where these grids would align to Ancient Portals and would begin to open up, thereby opening up our one way communication to a dual exchange. We have been setting up HANDSHAKE HUB FIELDS to help the Guardians with this Purpose! This concept is described more so in the last newsletter, this understanding of the energetics around the “System Override. This IS a process underway in the Astral Layers at this time, which is point blank, one of the most distorted and damaged of all of the time spaces.

There are the beautiful GALACTIC Warriors , some of which I am aware of in our group, that have been in an accelerated Astral Combat in service to repairing wormholes and portals in the 2nd Density or the Harmonic Universe comprising 4-5-6 Dimensions. This has been intense work especially since the landing of the 12 D Avatars late November, as this event changed all the timelines… and began us on our System Override . Many of the members of this “ Galactic” crew have been the brave ones that accepted this massive role and we dearly want to send our acknowledgment, appreciation and deepest loving support. Much has been accomplished and we have hit the milestone which allows this to unravel as it needs to allowing the physics between White and Black Hole Systems to complete their purpose as literally a VACCUUM that sucks out all that has been spread out into these ASTRAL spaces. There has been a PORTAL PROJECT creating a TRIAD ANCHOR ( Melchizedek, Andromedan-Aurora, Sirius) that is with an opening through the ASTRAL LAYERS and then moves through to SIRIUS 6D – ARCTURUS 7D- ORION 8D ( GALACTIC CORE) and Finally OUT OF THIS SYSTEM ENTIRELY. ( This is the Meta Galactic Layers aligned to the Luminaries of the Next Universe- the upcoming Andromeda Activations) This was purposed to rehabilitate and relocate the Lost Souls and Fragments in 4D- Astral and emancipate the harvested consciousness in there that have been utilized in holographic tanks… very similarly to these “nuclear battery centers”. I was able to see that the Controllers used HUMAN SOUL “ bits”, fragments, body parts, fetus’ .. you name it …..as a type of “energetic field stew” and were able to harness the creational light of its original nature , even when it was fragmented and “unconscious” to its own identity. Many of these “bits” were exploded in the various histories where we lost ourselves in the Atlantis and Maldek explosions. These “bits” are sentient units, even though they have no self awareness they are similar to “ plants” as they do experience PAIN. The psychic pain and suffering held in these spaces is the most intense thing I have ever witnessed, and the release and reclamation of these sentient units to their true home, their source identity…. is more profound than words. And we have these GALACTIC WARRIORS to thank with my humblest levels of love, appreciation and forgiveness…. Into even bearing witness to such atrocity.

Thank you …THANK YOU …THANK YOU. From the deepest levels of my being, our being…. Thank you. To this beloved group, my family….. I see you, honor you and acknowledge YOU for all of your hard years of service to the greater whole of human beings. You are and were never forgotten, even in the lonely years of isolation, please know this was necessary then ….AND it is coming to Closure.

In Deep Love,
Lisa
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I estimate less than 10% of this thread as pure truth. If you had any real understanding of the dimensions you could effect this physical world like I do. The reason the "astral plane" is in such disarray, is because of "spiritual wickedness in high places"(Eph.6:12) And only one who has spiritual authority can restore it.
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I estimate less than 10% of this thread as pure truth. If you had any real understanding of the dimensions you could effect this physical world like I do. The reason the "astral plane" is in such disarray, is because of "spiritual wickedness in high places"(Eph.6:12) And only one who has spiritual authority can restore it.
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Sounds nice - he can but he doesn't want to.
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I estimate less than 10% of this thread as pure truth. If you had any real understanding of the dimensions you could effect this physical world like I do. The reason the "astral plane" is in such disarray, is because of "spiritual wickedness in high places"(Eph.6:12) And only one who has spiritual authority can restore it.
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You mean a different entity than Wl, we know ...
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The entire astral and all its occupants operate in the God Conciousness..

This entire post is utter bullshit
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"We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers.... against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”


Ephesians 6:12
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The entire astral and all its occupants operate in the God Conciousness..

This entire post is utter bullshit
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Yes I am aware I am stepping onto the toes of the keepers of this faked suffer and torture reality ...
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Thanks for this, Free Flow. So perhaps we should be discerning in these coming times concerning "space ship rescue" from "friendly aliens" since they could whisk folks out of the current time line, missing these portals, thus ruin chances for that soul's ascension/evolution Could I be correct in this line of thinking (in your opinion)?
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There is no such thing as an astral plane unless you perceive it to be so.

Lotus
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This is a good post FreeFlow, You are an instrument of the divine. I just hope many can awake before its to late We must break the cycle of deception now!!

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Thanks for this, Free Flow. So perhaps we should be discerning in these coming times concerning "space ship rescue" from "friendly aliens" since they could whisk folks out of the current time line, missing these portals, thus ruin chances for that soul's ascension/evolution Could I be correct in this line of thinking (in your opinion)?
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Yeah KM, we must be cautious tho my own experience tells me we are protected from the worst, unless we don't consciously decide to go with the dark asses of course.
So I would just not worry too much about missing opportunities and all that technical stuff, at least to speak for me I don't. One thing is for sure tho matters are quite complicated, tho the good folks above know how it works.

Of course I'd wished to see a physical effect of all these rescuing efforts asap ...
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There is no such thing as an astral plane unless you perceive it to be so.

Lotus
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Yeah if you filter out truth then it might work for you ...

You can't make it rain if there's none but you can always try to believe it rains for you indeed, problem is your neighbor won't believe you if it doesn't.
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everyone who says the astral plane is harmless and astral travels are oh so nice and exciting is either a deceiver or deceived themselves.
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There are precautions everyone needs to take when working the astral and higher lights...but its not all as dramatic as this.
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.... I just hope many can awake before its to late We must break the cycle of deception now!!

BARAKA BASHAD
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Yup!
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There are precautions everyone needs to take when working the astral and higher lights...but its not all as dramatic as this.
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Beware of the lower astral planes especially cause that's the place where all these negative off-worlders are hiding and operating their gross manipulations from, they have technical devices that are used to cloak themselves in 3D but they can bee seen in the astral.
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There is no such thing as an astral plane unless you perceive it to be so.

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Lotus, I keep hearing you say these same words time and time again when someone posts a thread concerning the astral dimensions. Could you possibly elaborate on why you disregard the astral dimensions as non-existent unless someone perceives it to be? It seems like you are trapped in your own subjective version of truth. Sometimes your entire demeanor resembles that of a pompous, self-proclaimed, holier than thou messiah. I personally find it disrespectful that you think you have the authority to be so sure of yourself, when in fact, you are wrong. You probably just have a hidden fear that you're afraid to confess publicly.
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There are precautions everyone needs to take when working the astral and higher lights...but its not all as dramatic as this.

Beware of the lower astral planes especially cause that's the place where all these negative off-worlders are hiding and operating their gross manipulations from, they have technical devices that are used to cloak themselves in 3D but they can bee seen in the astral.
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The astral depths...nasty place indeed.
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The astral depths...nasty place indeed.
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No doubt ...
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Lisa - I really want to understand that post but.... WOW. Can you give a couple of bullet points or use a main idea sentence or something?
Trying to read that is like trying to hop onto one of those people mover type devices that's going about 30 mph wearing greased roller skates.
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Lisa - I really want to understand that post but.... WOW. Can you give a couple of bullet points or use a main idea sentence or something?
Trying to read that is like trying to hop onto one of those people mover type devices that's going about 30 mph wearing greased roller skates.
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I am new to her site myself AC so I cannot give you hints ATM, I suggest you read the Newsletters to get more clues:
[link to www.energeticsynthesis.com]
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"Somehow here's new info about how the astral plane has been use to distort our 3D and keep the timelines going ... yes they abused soul fragments to cause great pain on us, everyone who says the astral plane is harmless and astral travels are oh so nice and exciting is either a deceiver or deceived themselves.


4D astral clean up- energy update
Posted February 10th, 2008 by shiva777

This may be a little heavy going for some of you ,to get the bigger picture go to
[link to www.energeticsynthesis.com]
and read the lifting your veils newsletters, if you are interested.I have been working with Lisa and this group for a few years now and lots of amazing work has been done...." [Quoting Free Flow/OP]


Dear Free Flow,


I am SO happy to see you posting this thread! For SO long, I have been trying to warn about the dangers of the Astral Plane ~ and that "4-D" (the Astral) is indeed very dangerous and very deceptive.

"Ascending" to 4-D is not such a great thing, booking passage to the Astral or Emotional Plane. Lightworkers who say "all is emotion" are very naive and your thread helps show this. Thank you. Wasayo
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The entire astral and all its occupants operate in the God Conciousness..

This entire post is utter bullshit
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Boy, are you wrong!!!
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Thanks Wasyso, I think knowing this is a most important part of the truth.
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Yeah I know the 'all is good and happy' folks won't like this news ...
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Freeflow, are you or is this post referring to the lower astral realms with all its demonic and manipulative energies ? Judging by the near-death-experiences, most people appear to contact astral realms of unconditional love, which they are loathe to leave.(right expression?) Mind you, haven't read the article yet, so maybe my comment is somewhat premature.
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Light tunnels et, could be the usual deception IMO.

Basically one thing is sure namelysince the dark invaded it is very difficult to leave earth after physical death it so the great majority was bound to incarnate endlessly again and again and ride out the karma carousel - which means you get the illusion you move but only in circles if you look closer.

We still have vague connections to our creator.

Just my personal view, I might be wrong tho ...
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Doesn't it say somewhere in the Bible that Satan is the prince of the air?

I have often wondered if the heavy warnings against the occult contained in Christianity are founded in this. Or it could be, as is so often asserted on GLP, that religion is used to control us, therefore, they do not want us experimenting with such things and raising our own god-conciousness.

Whatever the answer, it seems that great care should be taken in such experimentation. Someone who is not strong could easily be overwhelmed by whatever operates in that plane.
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Hi FF!!

Interesting topic.

Though from my studies of the Arcturian works, there are different layers of the 4th (astral) dimension.

There are the lower layers, which reside closest to our own dimension, then as one goes higher in the frequency, closer to the 5th, their is a upper layer.

The negative entities CANNOT pass in the 5th dimensional frequency. Fear, hate, etc... gives off a low vibration which keeps the negative entities stuck in the lower 4th dimension. They are trapped there and yes, it would be a negative place for us to dwell along with them.

The goal is to evolve beyound the cage of fear so that you can move beyound that lower 4th dimensional frequency and into the realms of pure love.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein





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