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John 3:5 (born of water and of the Spirit) - the artificial womb & designer baby warning?

 
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John 3:5 (born of water and of the Spirit) - the artificial womb & designer baby warning?
The bible continues to blow me away in the truths presented. From a quick online scout, John 3:5 has been heavily debated as to its meaning. I'd like to present a theory - that this passage has only just come to light in terms of its context and meaning for what is occuring now was not possible back then. Could this be a warning from God? As with everything in the bible, every passage in there is for a reason.

If we took an example of birds, they will always fly. This doesnt seem to change at all leading up to Jesus' return so the bible doesnt stipulate otherwise. The point I'm trying to make is God gave us John 3:5 for a reason. I believe it was an acknowledgment of a coming change. For if all births continued to be natural until his return, there would have been no reason to present this passage to us. Heres the passage:



John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


First, let us examine the born of water aspect. What happens when a woman is about to give birth? Her waters break - born of water. The womb creates the water in which we develope as babies and this is dissipated before the actual birth. It's a sign that your beautiful, precious gift from God is about to be born. The spirit element I believe is something about natural birth. What do I mean by that? Well, we have an explosion in gene editing technology. Designer babies are now possible where we can decide eye colour, intelligence and sex to name but a few. This is not a natural process and not what God intended so could indeed be conceived to be artificial in nature (not as God intended).


Now we see the science reports coming out that various labs have managed to create the artificial womb in which to develop a baby. Heres one such report:



"Biobag" that mimics mother's womb that world has ever seen.[1] The prototype of a bio bag successfully intended to facilitate the process of ex-utero gestation. Researchers at children's hospital tested and monitored effects of artificial womb technology on the foetus of a lamb which developmentally equivalent to the human infant the lamb displayed Normal growth, Normal breath, grew wool and had a normal neurological function and organ maturation.


Article link: [link to www.slideshare.net (secure)]


As we ser crys from the likes of fauci and co. encouraging us not to shake hands, encouraging us not to have sex and the warping of our childrens mind encouraging homosexuality and transgender movement through media and schools, the way of natural birth is trying to be eradicated. I ask you, is this what John 3:5 was about?


Related: Thread: Researchers create the BioBag - artificial womb (ectogensis)

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The bible continues to blow me away in the truths presented. From a quick online scout, John 3:5 has been heavily debated as to its meaning. I'd like to present a theory - that this passage has only just come to light in terms of its context and meaning for what is occuring now was not possible back then. Could this be a warning from God? As with everything in the bible, every passage in there is for a reason.

If we took an example of birds, they will always fly. This doesnt seem to change at all so the bible doesnt stipulate otherwise. The point I'm trying to make is God gave us John 3:5 for a reason. I believe it was an acknowledgemt of a coming change. For if all births continued to be natural until his return, there would have been no reason to present this passage to us. Heres the passage:



John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


First, let us examine the born of water aspect. What happens when a woman is about to give birth? Her waters break - born of water. The womb creates the water in which we develope as babies and this is dissipated before the actual birth. It's a sign that your beautiful, precious gift from God is about to be born. The spirit element I believe is something about natural birth. What do I mean by that? Well, we have an explosion in gene editing technology. Designer babies are now possible where we can decide eye colour, intelligence and sex to name but a few. This is not a natural process and not what God intended so could indeed be conceived to be artificial in nature (not as God intended).


Bow we see the science reports coming out that various labs have managed to create the artificial womb I which to develop a baby. Heres one such report:



"Biobag" that mimics mother's womb that world has ever seen.[1] The prototype of a bio bag successfully intended to facilitate the process of ex-utero gestation. Researchers at children's hospital tested and monitored effects of artificial womb technology on the foetus of a lamb which developmentally equivalent to the human infant the lamb displayed Normal growth, Normal breath, grew wool and had a normal neurological function and organ maturation.


Article link: [link to www.slideshare.net (secure)]


As we crys from the likes of fauci and co. encouraging us not to shake hands, encouraging us not to have sex and the warping of put childrens mind encouraging homosexuality and trasgender movement through media and schools, the way of natural birth is trying to be eradicated. I ask you, is this what John 3:5 was about?


Related: Thread: Researchers create the BioBag - artificial womb (ectogensis)
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God bless you. You've shed light on something That makes my own lightbulb go off after considering this. Stay strong for the times to come
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Re: John 3:5 (born of water and of the Spirit) - the artificial womb & designer baby warning?
The bible continues to blow me away in the truths presented. From a quick online scout, John 3:5 has been heavily debated as to its meaning. I'd like to present a theory - that this passage has only just come to light in terms of its context and meaning for what is occuring now was not possible back then. Could this be a warning from God? As with everything in the bible, every passage in there is for a reason.

If we took an example of birds, they will always fly. This doesnt seem to change at all so the bible doesnt stipulate otherwise. The point I'm trying to make is God gave us John 3:5 for a reason. I believe it was an acknowledgemt of a coming change. For if all births continued to be natural until his return, there would have been no reason to present this passage to us. Heres the passage:



John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


First, let us examine the born of water aspect. What happens when a woman is about to give birth? Her waters break - born of water. The womb creates the water in which we develope as babies and this is dissipated before the actual birth. It's a sign that your beautiful, precious gift from God is about to be born. The spirit element I believe is something about natural birth. What do I mean by that? Well, we have an explosion in gene editing technology. Designer babies are now possible where we can decide eye colour, intelligence and sex to name but a few. This is not a natural process and not what God intended so could indeed be conceived to be artificial in nature (not as God intended).


Bow we see the science reports coming out that various labs have managed to create the artificial womb I which to develop a baby. Heres one such report:



"Biobag" that mimics mother's womb that world has ever seen.[1] The prototype of a bio bag successfully intended to facilitate the process of ex-utero gestation. Researchers at children's hospital tested and monitored effects of artificial womb technology on the foetus of a lamb which developmentally equivalent to the human infant the lamb displayed Normal growth, Normal breath, grew wool and had a normal neurological function and organ maturation.


Article link: [link to www.slideshare.net (secure)]


As we crys from the likes of fauci and co. encouraging us not to shake hands, encouraging us not to have sex and the warping of put childrens mind encouraging homosexuality and trasgender movement through media and schools, the way of natural birth is trying to be eradicated. I ask you, is this what John 3:5 was about?


Related: Thread: Researchers create the BioBag - artificial womb (ectogensis)
 Quoting: Little Lost


God bless you. You've shed light on something That makes my own lightbulb go off after considering this. Stay strong for the times to come
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Bless you to my friend and thank you for stopping by the thread. If anything, I hope it encourages thinking :)
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1 star and no debate as to why. Way to present a counter view. It is a theory, encouraged to spark thought and discussion.

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Ever since Louise Brown, the test tube baby, I have spoken to alot of theologans about the dilemna: Does this baby have a soul, or simply an anima, life like animals with no grace no soul and death is the end. There has not been an exact clarification but they are leaning to this "person"not having a soul/ I personally havent decided...I feel that if the person whose egg is involved is a real person and the sperm also, the fruit of that, however born, was conceived by God given persons.They have not yet created life from nothing and the "something" they use has a Divine Creator.

That person I believe, is still alive whereas Dolly, the Ewe that was created did look normal and function normally but she also aged rapidly and died young.

This and the creations on the Island near Montauk, the Chimiras, part human, part animal,could be the Abomination referred to in the New Testament.

If they create a souless creature and all "life" comes from an assembly line, they have the perfect slave they can do with what they they want AND if these creations have no soul they can be assumed by evil spirits like putting on a coat and they can live again.

I wondered why the govt hadnt just rounded up the unvxxd and jabbed them out right.And I think they want to put a chip in us that allow demons to control us. According to Exorcists,
possesion cannot take place if the person does not give permission. So we nonvxxers present a serious problem.

Me and mine are very terrified of lack of interest in all of the above by 90 percent of the people and of all the signs being presented fulfilling Marys words to the children at Fatima, all of which is spelled out with a massive free library at www.tldm.org...even to the problems with this Pope and the fact that Benedict was forced out,

So we arm ourselves with the St. Michael the Archangel prayer by Pope Leo XIII who wrote it after hearing a warning in church one day, a vision of how the devil wants us ruined
and say the 91st Psalm (He who dwelleth in the shadow of the Almighty), I have a crucifix over every door, and my rosary.
Look up "Catholic Church survives blast at ground zero"...In the bombing of Hiroshima some priests and congregation were praying and had the crucifixes up and the bomb hit. They building stood and they all lived and had NO repercusions while all around them everthing was just flat burned ashes.
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P.S. Ive always had an American Flag, now all of a sudden you gave me a Canada one. ?? Please whoever did this change it back. Not that free Ojibwe/Chippewa acknowledge any imaginary boundry lines...
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Ever since Louise Brown, the test tube baby, I have spoken to alot of theologans about the dilemna: Does this baby have a soul, or simply an anima, life like animals with no grace no soul and death is the end. There has not been an exact clarification but they are leaning to this "person"not having a soul/ I personally havent decided...I feel that if the person whose egg is involved is a real person and the sperm also, the fruit of that, however born, was conceived by God given persons.They have not yet created life from nothing and the "something" they use has a Divine Creator.

That person I believe, is still alive whereas Dolly, the Ewe that was created did look normal and function normally but she also aged rapidly and died young.

This and the creations on the Island near Montauk, the Chimiras, part human, part animal,could be the Abomination referred to in the New Testament.

If they create a souless creature and all "life" comes from an assembly line, they have the perfect slave they can do with what they they want AND if these creations have no soul they can be assumed by evil spirits like putting on a coat and they can live again.

I wondered why the govt hadnt just rounded up the unvxxd and jabbed them out right.And I think they want to put a chip in us that allow demons to control us. According to Exorcists,
possesion cannot take place if the person does not give permission. So we nonvxxers present a serious problem.

Me and mine are very terrified of lack of interest in all of the above by 90 percent of the people and of all the signs being presented fulfilling Marys words to the children at Fatima, all of which is spelled out with a massive free library at www.tldm.org...even to the problems with this Pope and the fact that Benedict was forced out,

So we arm ourselves with the St. Michael the Archangel prayer by Pope Leo XIII who wrote it after hearing a warning in church one day, a vision of how the devil wants us ruined
and say the 91st Psalm (He who dwelleth in the shadow of the Almighty), I have a crucifix over every door, and my rosary.
Look up "Catholic Church survives blast at ground zero"...In the bombing of Hiroshima some priests and congregation were praying and had the crucifixes up and the bomb hit. They building stood and they all lived and had NO repercusions while all around them everthing was just flat burned ashes.
 Quoting: American Indian Elder




Whilst I didnt add it, I did see a report on the new development of creating what they dubbed 'artificial sperm'. Truly as the bible warns, the last days will be like that of Noah where God resorted to a flood to wipe out the abomination. Now man tries to play God, always thinking 'can we do this?' Rather than 'should we do this?'.


I truly believe they are trying to turn us into soulless creatures already and the vax was the first major attempt to hijack humanity! Please do check out the below threads. Whilst the title doesnt imply so, the fourth horseman theory heavily explores what could be done with the vax..

Thread: Vaccine implications - disturbing if true....

Then there is what we know about gene editing (again, the vax)


Thread: Klaus Schwab. "4th industrial revolution doesnt change what you're doing, it changes you". Gene editing (vaccine)


You've mentioned a few things in which I must check out! Especially Catholic Church survives blast at ground zero"...In the bombing of Hiroshima. Im trying to put a presentation together of good evidence of NDEs and the like to wake up some family members. I'm including miracles so the bombing of the church and its survival would surely make a worthy addition and testimony to the power of God.

Thank you for contributing to the thread, I pray we make it through what's to come. Stay safe, may God have mercy on us.
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Isaiah 44:2

Thus saith YHWH that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, My servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

3
For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour My spirit upon thy seed, and My blessing upon thine offspring:

4
And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.


John 3:5
YESHUA answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:26

that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,



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God is Spirit, and those that worship Him must do so in Truth.


The unlearned are carried about like a ship without a rudder by every wind of false doctrine.

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Isaiah 44:2

Thus saith YHWH that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee; Fear not, O Jacob, My servant; and thou, Jesurun, whom I have chosen.

3
For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour My spirit upon thy seed, and My blessing upon thine offspring:

4
And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses.


John 3:5
YESHUA answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:26

that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word,



_____


God is Spirit, and those that worship Him must do so in Truth.


The unlearned are carried about like a ship without a rudder by every wind of false doctrine.

...
 Quoting: Water = Word of God 51948871




Appreciate your insight and perspective and taking the time to share passages!
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Interesting biblical perspective I come across today. Good talk around the discussion of genetic engineering from a bible perspective. Great pastor if you've never listened to him, well worth checking out his other videos.





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Very interesting. Saving to read again- needs Thots & conciderations
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