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Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?

 
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Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
One of the big reasons we’ve gotten to where we are now with Russia and Ukraine was that Germany and Joe Biden indicated that they were just not serious when it came to Nord Stream 2. When Joe Biden waived sanctions on it and Germany indicated they were willing to make themselves beholden to Russia for their energy, Vladimir Putin knew that he was being given a green light. He saw weakness and lack of resolve all over the place. While he’s had designs on Ukraine for years, that likely helped him to believe that there would be no great consequences from these feckless people.

But Germany pulled a move Putin likely figured they wouldn’t — they effectively stopped the Nord Stream 2 pipeline, with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announcing that he was going to halt the process of certifying the pipeline because of Putin’s statement recognized two areas in Ukraine — Donetsk and Luhansk — as “independent” countries, setting up a thin rationale for him to move in to “protect” their “independence.” He said his action was in response to Putin’s declaration.

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02/22/2022 10:47 AM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
It's never too late to shoot yourself in the foot. lmao
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02/22/2022 10:58 AM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
Russian security is more important.

If as a person you had a choice between defending your life and security, or losing your job, what would you pick?

Its like that here for russia.

Usa, and allies are trying to hold a knife to russian neck, and tell them do what we want or we want you gone.

Can russia accept such ultimatums, if they want to survive.

If russia wants survival, as well as china in this world, they have to decide that they will not be blackmailed or extorted into submission by usa, and allies in the future.

Russia cannot allow missiles in ukraine from usa, and that is more important then a pipeline.

Do you judge your own survival, or your job as more important?
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02/22/2022 11:13 AM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
can you imagine how many billions in damages will arise from it?

German nutcases have lost their mind

Gas prices double and government will go
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02/22/2022 11:35 AM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
Bahaha you really think Russia wasn't expecting that move by Germany??
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02/22/2022 11:37 AM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
As long as the Ukrainian hypocrites still buy Russian gas, i don't feel any guilt in Germany continuing to purchase it.
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02/22/2022 10:55 PM
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Re: Germany Makes a Big Move on Nord Stream 2 but Is It Too Late?
Russian security is more important.

If as a person you had a choice between defending your life and security, or losing your job, what would you pick?

Its like that here for russia.

Usa, and allies are trying to hold a knife to russian neck, and tell them do what we want or we want you gone.

Can russia accept such ultimatums, if they want to survive.

If russia wants survival, as well as china in this world, they have to decide that they will not be blackmailed or extorted into submission by usa, and allies in the future.

Russia cannot allow missiles in ukraine from usa, and that is more important then a pipeline.

Do you judge your own survival, or your job as more important?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81106677


Exactly !!
JFK was willing to go war with Russia because the missiles in Cuba, Russia got the message and backed off.
The same movie is playing now with same actors in opposite roles ...

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