The truth about satellite USA-193 - URGENT | |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought I was signed in when I posted this, but I guess not. Here's some more info from www.n2yo.com I am able to get onto the homepage, but when I go to USA-193 it's not working. It's not showing the satellite nor is it showing my info, as it was in the past. I do believe the government is raising hell on this great site. NORAD ID: 29651 Int'l Code: 2006-057A Perigee: 407 km Apogee: 421 km Inclination: 40° Period: 92.8 min Launch date: 2006-12-14 Source: United States (US) Comments: USA 193 is an American military satellite that was launched from Vandenberg AFB at 21:00 UT on 14 December 2006. It is a highly classified spacecraft, owned and operated by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). No further details are available. In January 2008, reports emerged that a U.S. spy satellite, again probably this one, was in a deteriorating orbit, and that the object was expected to crash into the Earth within weeks. Early reports indicated that the satellite could contain "hazardous materials", probably hydrazine, and possibly beryllium,though there was also some speculation that the satellite might have a "nuclear" power core, i.e. a radioisotope thermoelectric generator. Defense consultant John E. Pike dismissed this as "unlikely". (according to Wikipedia) On January 29, 2008, an Associated Press story quoted a U.S. Air Force general as saying that contingency plans were being made since intact pieces of the satellite "might re-enter into the North American area". Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
EDH50 User ID: 374615 United States 02/17/2008 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DUDE! Thanks for the post. Scared me with mentioning Northern California there but looks like I am safe. Again, we don't truly 100% know if that is the case with those boundaries that it can land, but apparently it does look like you have inside information there. Thanks for sharing. |
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LS User ID: 253961 United States 02/17/2008 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 375073CRAP! i live in west idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thoght of was the falling satellite. MAKA = Make America Kind Again |
Enigma User ID: 373826 United States 02/17/2008 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | are they afraid it will blow up? burn up and spew nasty stuff? if it DOES BLOW UP and is in ORBIT, will the EMP, knock out all communications and electronics? a modern day electronic armegaddon? what if it BLOWS UP when the shoot it? yes we know the answers and reasons are all circumspect... those of us with a brain that ACTUALLY THINK... thinking is NOT an Enigma |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DUDE! Thanks for the post. Scared me with mentioning Northern California there but looks like I am safe. Again, we don't truly 100% know if that is the case with those boundaries that it can land, but apparently it does look like you have inside information there. Thanks for sharing. Quoting: EDH50 374615Thanks for reminding me! This is information as of 2-17-08. There are many factors such as weather, atmoshperic pressure etc... that can change the 'strike-zone'. Even if a major weather system or something that affects the satellite it won't be enough to knock it too far off course. The Pacific NW is the target zone, so expand it by a few hundred miles in every direction to be 100% safe! Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
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spiritnut nli User ID: 301622 United States 02/17/2008 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The other day I made references to the discrepancies that were "reported" regarding this satellite. First tptb said it was Beryllium...then they said it was Hydrazine.... Originally tptb said it was no threat...and now there is grave concern? Now we have another thread saying their is an injured hybrid astronaut on the satellite.... and I am getting dizzy trying to keep up with what the latest story is.... |
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fnord User ID: 326101 United States 02/17/2008 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The original Mercury space capsules had Beryllium heat shields. Beryllium re-entering the atmosphere by itself is not a problem. Beryllium in conjunction with Polonium can be a powerful neutron source. Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 374325 United States 02/17/2008 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are telling us there is toxic rocket fuel on board they are telling us there is plutonium on board they are telling us that there is beryllium on board. sound familiar ? let me help you. there's a plane crash. all this jet fuel in a building full of burning office furniture and burning people steel become flexible buildings "fail" see where I'm going? there is going to be a huge light show over north america and some "scientist" is going to say rocket fuel + plutonium + beryllium+missle hit+reentry heat +atmospheric pressure = 'huge light show'. People will believe it just like they believe 9-11. |
spiritnut nli User ID: 301622 United States 02/17/2008 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting fnord: Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating. Question: Wouldn't the re-entry provide enough heat to induce an explosive reaction for these two elements? |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well the fact that they are taking a shot at much sooner than they wanted is very suspect! If Hydrazine was the ONLY hazardous material onboard, then they could take their shot 'moments before hitting the atmosphere'. There are 'other' materials that would still cause massive destruction if detonated at the edge of the atmosphere. Mix that with the fact that USA-193 is threatening several MAJOR populated areas and it's a very nasty situation all the way around! I just noticed that www.n2yo.com is working (for the moment). It's running VERY slowly, but it's working lol. Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
Normal Is Subjective User ID: 375325 Canada 02/17/2008 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Applications Mechanical * Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V. * Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts. * In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications. * Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts. * Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed. * The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal. * Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity. [link to en.wikipedia.org] I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting fnord: Quoting: spiritnut nli 301622Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating. Question: Wouldn't the re-entry provide enough heat to induce an explosive reaction for these two elements? 'Re-entry' may not provide enough heat being USA-193 was designed for re-entry. The risk it too high though. Being hit with a missile would do the trick, which is why they have to hit their target much higher then planned. Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
fnord User ID: 326101 United States 02/17/2008 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The chances of explosions resulting from unsupervised re-entry being so fortuitously arranged as to confine a nuclear reaction are so small as to be for all practical purposes zero. |
THE WTF GUY !! User ID: 322321 Mexico 02/17/2008 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada. Quoting: LSCRAP! i live in west Idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thought of was the falling satellite. Don´t worry LS , if something happened to you , we will have a lot to talk about you and your one star policy !! In the other hand , you would be the first real GLP hero in a while !! ps.-just kidding |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Applications Quoting: Normal Is SubjectiveMechanical * Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V. * Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts. * In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications. * Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts. * Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed. * The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal. * Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity. [link to en.wikipedia.org] If Beryllium was NEVER listed by the Pentagon as being a part of USA-193 that has them concerned, then it wouldn't be an issue. The fact that it is a concern only points to what the beryllium is protecting. Not to mention, this is more than a feeling, this is direct info. Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 375475 Ireland 02/17/2008 04:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok fellas here's a question for you that i haven't seen explained as i may have missed it but can anyone please explain just how this satellite has come to be a possible mass killer, what actually is responsible for causing it to malfunction, maybe some space wars goin on up there perhaps or is there a more sinister reason? |
spiritnut nli User ID: 301622 United States 02/17/2008 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't someone mention on one of the many threads about this spy satellite....that it might have been launched in 2006...or so for the purpose of assisting in the Cassini project (with the nuclear agenda)??? |
screenwr007 (OP) User ID: 375073 United States 02/17/2008 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada. Quoting: LSCRAP! i live in west idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thoght of was the falling satellite. I suggest signing up (free) for one of the websites I mentioned and track it. I haven't heard any reports of debris being spotted (from usa-193), but I have seen a few fireballs myself lately. They have all been within 90-minutes of the satellite passing close to my location. Hell, I live outside Portland Oregon, how do you think I feel lol. That's the reason he's giving me and my family this info, so we have proper warning to leave. Again, the government is only planning on 26-28 minutes to warn people! Spread the word and show your support! www.brklynz.blogspot.com (Don't worry I'm not selling anything, so it's not spam) |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 327049 United States 02/17/2008 04:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | danger: Quoting: ^TrInItY^- nuke on board - :bushnuke: Trin - that is one creepy graphic! Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 351208 United Kingdom 02/17/2008 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I this is so then a nuclear device would have to be capable of exploding on impact with the ground (otherswise why blow it up high in the atmosphere). However it is very hard to get a chain reaction started ( they have to surrond the plutonium with explosives that all go off at once) , would a ground impact at terminal velocity be enough to do the same. I always thought that they were designed not to explode unless armed anyway. Remeber the film broken arrow where they dumped nukes out of a plane (the point being the impact would not cause them to explode) |
Normal Is Subjective User ID: 375325 Canada 02/17/2008 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Applications Quoting: screenwr007Mechanical * Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V. * Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts. * In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications. * Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts. * Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed. * The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal. * Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity. [link to en.wikipedia.org] If Beryllium was NEVER listed by the Pentagon as being a part of USA-193 that has them concerned, then it wouldn't be an issue. The fact that it is a concern only points to what the beryllium is protecting. Not to mention, this is more than a feeling, this is direct info. Short of a ghetto-blaster for ET, many satellites will have this material used throughout its systems. That said, I"m not discounting the nuke aspect and I do believe there's a lot more to this story than we're being told. I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |