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The truth about satellite USA-193 - URGENT

 
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THIS MAY BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THREAD YOU'VE EVER READ! THIS IS NO JOKE AND THE INFORMATION PROVIDED IS 100% ACCURATE AND HONEST.

I started a thread about two weeks ago giving updates on the falling satellite. For some unknown reason people didn't pay attention, so I am asking you to please read what I have to say here. I am going to discuss a couple of different concerns along with updates on usa-193'S 'strike-zone'. I have an extremely reliable & trustworthy source for inside information. This info is coming from a family member (1st cousin) who is a very high-ranking official with the New York JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force). USA-193 is currently the greatest known threat/risk to our country!

[link to www.fbi.gov]

The only reason my cousin is willing to share this information is because of the extremely high threat risk associated with USA-193. I don't have any 'shocking' news, but I have news that confirms a lot of speculations.

First I will give an update on who's 'at-risk' as of my last briefing given to me at 0900, 2.17.08. The following info doesn't account for a missile strike, this is strictly where US-193 is due to land with no intereference. The area of concern still remains the Pacific Northwest. The current warning ranges from Eugene Oregon to Kamloops BC (Canada). That's just the north-south range. Current models show less than .005% chance of a harmless water strike (currently a land strike is imminent). The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada. These warnings only show the current crash zone for USA-193, not the anticipated debris field! Obviously debris can come down hundreds if-not 'thousands' of miles away. Currently there are no parts of Northern California in the 'red-zone'.

This is info that the govt follows and believes. I am told by my cousin that if something goes wrong with the missile strike or there remains a 'high-risk' after the missile strike that the govt will ONLY give us a 26-28 minute warning! Obviously this is unacceptable.

I do have some info that I cannot share, but it is the most important info and you must pay attention closely! We are going to play a very simple 'read-between-the-lines' game here as I'm sure it will reveal the info I can't share. Please take notice that this info was confirmed to me this morning and isn't speculation. I swear to everyone out there, that this is quite possibly the most important thread on GLP!!!

Here it goes...

We all know that the Pentagon has listed 'Hydrazine' (rocket fuel) as being onboard the satellite and a major concern. They have also listed a second substance/material as being a major concern and that's 'Beryllium'. Now this is extremely odd as beryllium isn't a harmful material and is used in making shuttles & satellites, so why list it as a major concern?

Here's why!.. (from Wiki - complete link @ bottom of blurb)

Nuclear

Beryllium is used in nuclear weapon designsas the outer layer of the pit of the primary stage, surrounding the fissile material. It is a good pusher for implosion, and the best possible neutron reflector, reducing the critical mass needed for a fission chain reaction and increasing the proportion of fuel that fissions, while itself adding little mass to the weapon. It is a poor tamper because of its low mass, but this is unimportant in fusion-boosted fission weapons. As a light element with few electrons, the fission explosion completely ionizes it quickly, making it transparent to X-rays and letting the energy from a primary fission explosion escape for radiation implosion of a secondary fusion stage.

To learn more about 'Beryllium' (and how it, normally, isn't harmful) click here, [link to en.wikipedia.org]

I have noticed that some news articles pertaining to the 'Beryllium' factor have been removed from the web. In particular one that was directly from an AirForce General who stated on 1/29/08 that the satellite could hit the USA. There are still articles and videos that show the Pentagon stating that the beryllium is a grave concern. It ONLY makes sense with the above pasted Wikipedia article.

Obviously the US Govt would NEVER admit to the beryllium being on-board for the above mentioned reason, as we have already gotten heat from Russia and China.

It also explains why they are taking a shot at the satellite WAY earlier than previously stated. The originally wanted to take a shot 'MOMENTS' before it hit the atmosphere so the debris would cause troubles in space. They are now planning on taking their first shot 10-14 days sooner than planned. I do believe it is however going to hit sooner than March (as they stated), but this is just a feeling from tracking it live online. There are a couple of great sites for tracking it. My favorite site was working beautifully, but now only works about 40% of the time (geez wonder why that is!). Make sure you sign up for both these sites and really explore them, as you can track and map 'visible passes' for your exact location. I have posted the links at the bottom of this thread.

Thousands of satellites have fallen from the sky, hell thousands have fallen from the sky in the past 5-years. NEVER has a single satellite gotten this type of attention, especially from the President of the United States (and other countries). The government is doing 'just enough' to make us aware that there 'may' be danger, but once again are keeping huge secrets from us. The bottom line is that there is a great chance for substantial loss of life and people need to know the truth. I beg of you to keep a close eye on this! I will post updates as soon as I get them.

www.n2yo.com - By far the best site I have found, as it tracks USA-193 LIVE! Please send them e-mails as I have in hopes they fix whatever problems they are having with the site. In the description of USA-193 they mention the 'beryllium'.
www.heavens-above.com - Another great site, but not nearly as good as n2yo.com.
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I thought I was signed in when I posted this, but I guess not. Here's some more info from www.n2yo.com

I am able to get onto the homepage, but when I go to USA-193 it's not working. It's not showing the satellite nor is it showing my info, as it was in the past. I do believe the government is raising hell on this great site.

NORAD ID: 29651
Int'l Code: 2006-057A
Perigee: 407 km
Apogee: 421 km
Inclination: 40°
Period: 92.8 min
Launch date: 2006-12-14
Source: United States (US)
Comments: USA 193 is an American military satellite that was launched from Vandenberg AFB at 21:00 UT on 14 December 2006. It is a highly classified spacecraft, owned and operated by the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO). No further details are available. In January 2008, reports emerged that a U.S. spy satellite, again probably this one, was in a deteriorating orbit, and that the object was expected to crash into the Earth within weeks. Early reports indicated that the satellite could contain "hazardous materials", probably hydrazine, and possibly beryllium,though there was also some speculation that the satellite might have a "nuclear" power core, i.e. a radioisotope thermoelectric generator. Defense consultant John E. Pike dismissed this as "unlikely". (according to Wikipedia) On January 29, 2008, an Associated Press story quoted a U.S. Air Force general as saying that contingency plans were being made since intact pieces of the satellite "might re-enter into the North American area".
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DUDE! Thanks for the post. Scared me with mentioning Northern California there but looks like I am safe. Again, we don't truly 100% know if that is the case with those boundaries that it can land, but apparently it does look like you have inside information there. Thanks for sharing.
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The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada.
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CRAP!

i live in west idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thoght of was the falling satellite.
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ok so we read between the lines and there is some sort of nuclear device on board, with the triggering mechanism...

are they afraid it will blow up? burn up and spew nasty stuff?

if it DOES BLOW UP and is in ORBIT, will the EMP, knock out all communications and electronics?

a modern day electronic armegaddon?

what if it BLOWS UP when the shoot it?

yes we know the answers and reasons are all circumspect...

those of us with a brain that ACTUALLY THINK...

thinking is NOT an Enigma
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DUDE! Thanks for the post. Scared me with mentioning Northern California there but looks like I am safe. Again, we don't truly 100% know if that is the case with those boundaries that it can land, but apparently it does look like you have inside information there. Thanks for sharing.
 Quoting: EDH50 374615


Thanks for reminding me!

This is information as of 2-17-08. There are many factors such as weather, atmoshperic pressure etc... that can change the 'strike-zone'. Even if a major weather system or something that affects the satellite it won't be enough to knock it too far off course. The Pacific NW is the target zone, so expand it by a few hundred miles in every direction to be 100% safe!
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bumping and 5 stars
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when nothing happens ill bump this.
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The other day I made references to the discrepancies that were "reported" regarding this satellite.

First tptb said it was Beryllium...then they said it was Hydrazine....

Originally tptb said it was no threat...and now there is grave concern?

Now we have another thread saying their is an injured hybrid astronaut on the satellite....

and I am getting dizzy trying to keep up with what the latest story is.... wtf
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Dude, we seriously could be without Internet soon, ha! This is unreal. This could be potentially complete and utter information control. The TV and radio will still work and can broadcast signals but when it comes to the Internet, it is completely done! To many smart people out there figuring out stuff out there. I can see it on this site. A lot of people out there that are intelligent and putting the pieces together. The illumaniti or whomever it is, doesn't want this to happen where we have the power to communicate and coming close to figuring out what is going down.
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The original Mercury space capsules had Beryllium heat shields.

Beryllium re-entering the atmosphere by itself is not a problem.

Beryllium in conjunction with Polonium can be a powerful neutron source.

Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating.
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......interesting
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Check out this link!!!!!

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Maybe we should get a net?
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they are paving they way for the bigger lie.
They are telling us there is toxic rocket fuel on board
they are telling us there is plutonium on board
they are telling us that there is beryllium on board.

sound familiar ?
let me help you.
there's a plane crash.
all this jet fuel in a building full of burning office furniture and burning people
steel become flexible
buildings "fail"
see where I'm going?


there is going to be a huge light show over north america and some "scientist" is going to say rocket fuel + plutonium + beryllium+missle hit+reentry heat +atmospheric pressure = 'huge light show'.

People will believe it just like they believe 9-11.
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Quoting fnord:

Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating.

Question: Wouldn't the re-entry provide enough heat to induce an explosive reaction for these two elements? hiding
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Well the fact that they are taking a shot at much sooner than they wanted is very suspect! If Hydrazine was the ONLY hazardous material onboard, then they could take their shot 'moments before hitting the atmosphere'. There are 'other' materials that would still cause massive destruction if detonated at the edge of the atmosphere. Mix that with the fact that USA-193 is threatening several MAJOR populated areas and it's a very nasty situation all the way around!

I just noticed that www.n2yo.com is working (for the moment). It's running VERY slowly, but it's working lol.
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Applications

Mechanical

* Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V.
* Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts.
* In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications.
* Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts.
* Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed.
* The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal.
* Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Quoting fnord:

Beryllium and Polonium in conjunction with a sub-critical mass of Plutonium could trigger a fission reaction in the Plutonium, but in the absence of explosive confinement, it is hard to see how it would be very devastating.

Question: Wouldn't the re-entry provide enough heat to induce an explosive reaction for these two elements? hiding
 Quoting: spiritnut nli 301622



'Re-entry' may not provide enough heat being USA-193 was designed for re-entry. The risk it too high though. Being hit with a missile would do the trick, which is why they have to hit their target much higher then planned.
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In nuclear weapons the explosives are cleverly used to confine the reactants so the chain reaction can mushroom (so to speak).

The chances of explosions resulting from unsupervised re-entry being so fortuitously arranged as to confine a nuclear reaction are so small as to be for all practical purposes zero.
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The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada.
CRAP!

i live in west Idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thought of was the falling satellite.
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Don´t worry LS , if something happened to you , we will have a lot to talk about you and your one star policy !!
In the other hand , you would be the first real GLP hero in a while !!
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Applications

Mechanical

* Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V.
* Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts.
* In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications.
* Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts.
* Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed.
* The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal.
* Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Normal Is Subjective


If Beryllium was NEVER listed by the Pentagon as being a part of USA-193 that has them concerned, then it wouldn't be an issue. The fact that it is a concern only points to what the beryllium is protecting. Not to mention, this is more than a feeling, this is direct info.
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Ok fellas here's a question for you that i haven't seen explained as i may have missed it but can anyone please explain just how this satellite has come to be a possible mass killer, what actually is responsible for causing it to malfunction, maybe some space wars goin on up there perhaps or is there a more sinister reason?
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Thank you screen writer ...however you spell your avatar name?

Didn't someone mention on one of the many threads about this spy satellite....that it might have been launched in 2006...or so for the purpose of assisting in the Cassini project (with the nuclear agenda)???
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The models show that there is a warning for Western Idaho and parts of NW Nevada.
CRAP!

i live in west idaho. the weird thing is that last night around 9pm while driving home i saw the brightest and most intense fireball i have ever seen and the first thing i thoght of was the falling satellite.
 Quoting: LS


I suggest signing up (free) for one of the websites I mentioned and track it. I haven't heard any reports of debris being spotted (from usa-193), but I have seen a few fireballs myself lately. They have all been within 90-minutes of the satellite passing close to my location.

Hell, I live outside Portland Oregon, how do you think I feel lol. That's the reason he's giving me and my family this info, so we have proper warning to leave. Again, the government is only planning on 26-28 minutes to warn people!
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danger:

- nuke on board -

:bushnuke:
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Trin - that is one creepy graphic!
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I guess it is very easy to say, this will be one hell of a coming week!!! ha! If you think about it, we are like living in a movie now.
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I this is so then a nuclear device would have to be capable of exploding on impact with the ground (otherswise why blow it up high in the atmosphere). However it is very hard to get a chain reaction started ( they have to surrond the plutonium with explosives that all go off at once) , would a ground impact at terminal velocity be enough to do the same. I always thought that they were designed not to explode unless armed anyway. Remeber the film broken arrow where they dumped nukes out of a plane (the point being the impact would not cause them to explode)
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Applications

Mechanical

* Due to its stiffness, light weight, and dimensional stability over a wide temperature range, Beryllium metal is used in the defense and aerospace industries as light-weight structural materials in high-speed aircraft, missiles, space vehicles, and communication satellites. For example, many high-quality liquid fueled rockets use nozzles of pure Be, an example being the Saturn V.
* Beryllium is used as an alloying agent in the production of beryllium copper, which contains up to 2.5% beryllium. Beryllium-copper alloys are used in a wide variety of applications because of their combination of high electrical and thermal conductivity, high strength and hardness, nonmagnetic properties, along with good corrosion and fatigue resistance. These applications include the making of spot-welding electrodes, springs, non-sparking tools and electrical contacts.
* In the telecommunications industry, tools made of beryllium are used to tune the highly magnetic klystrons used for high power microwave applications.
* Beryllium copper is used in electrical spring contacts.
* Beryllium is used in the making of gyroscopes, computer equipment, watch springs and instruments where light-weight, rigidity and dimensional stability are needed.
* The James Webb Space Telescope[6] will have 18 hexagonal beryllium sections for its mirrors. Because JWST will face a temperature of −240 degrees Celsius (33 kelvins), the mirror is made of beryllium, a material capable of handling extreme cold better than glass. Beryllium contracts and deforms less than glass — and thus remains more uniform — in such temperatures. For the same reason, the optics of the Spitzer Space Telescope are entirely built of beryllium metal.
* Beryllium has been used in tweeter and mid-range audio loudspeaker construction as an alternative to titanium and aluminium, largely due to its lower density and greater rigidity.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


If Beryllium was NEVER listed by the Pentagon as being a part of USA-193 that has them concerned, then it wouldn't be an issue. The fact that it is a concern only points to what the beryllium is protecting. Not to mention, this is more than a feeling, this is direct info.
 Quoting: screenwr007


Short of a ghetto-blaster for ET, many satellites will have this material used throughout its systems. That said, I"m not discounting the nuke aspect and I do believe there's a lot more to this story than we're being told.
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