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Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
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Sure it ain't the Chinese using "the sword" that cuts both ways?
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My guess is that the day is right for weekend cover and lack of...
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
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Something best left out of the news cycle for a few days, until they can accomplish whatever it is that makes it not the original breaking news..
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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sanctioning West?
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It could be just a marathon of confusion to madden the western propagandist so that they are off next week and make bigger mistakes.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Thank you Russia
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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sanctioning West?
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Possible but I believe Russia played most of their hand in regards to that. My mind always go right to cyber attack because DHS put out a bulletin previous to the invasion saying it expected cyber attacks in regards to the hostilities. Also everybody is well aware Russia has some extreme and well documented capabilities as far as cyber warfare.

Also I don't like the present rhetoric that Russia's military is weak. I know Putin and all the military brass would be very insulted by the their portrayal in Western media ( unless they masking their true military effectiveness). I don't like the way the media is almost stoking the flames of the conflict and daring Russia to go further with it. I think a cyber attack would be a way to strike back against all that without going all in and starting direct hostilities. Putin had also been very clear with what sanctions he declared an act of war and we have gone way beyond that at present.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Remember the various spottings of Russian subs last month? Many were near undersea communication cables. Place a few charges to be blown later?
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It could be just a marathon of confusion to madden the western propagandist so that they are off next week and make bigger mistakes.
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Something along those lines wouldn't surprise me, I fully believe Russia's ability to scare the west is a very useful tool at this time, and the more confusion they can generate the better
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Remember the various spottings of Russian subs last month? Many were near undersea communication cables. Place a few charges to be blown later?
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That's on of my thoughts as well, I'm just hoping they won't go that far because knock out 2 of those communication cables and it would generate a cluster the like of which would takes weeks to recover from. I believe if you severe one it often takes 2 weeks just to do the repair ( not really an expert on that)
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Cyber attacks on the grid especially nuclear power plants are likely. I worked in that industry and they have major vulnerabilities.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Cyber attacks on the grid especially nuclear power plants are likely. I worked in that industry and they have major vulnerabilities.
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I work in hazardous materials, so I take classes with and know a bunch of the workers at various nuclear plants near me ( Fermi, Besse) they have told me for along time what you just said. However , if there is fear of an imminent threat they all get put on call or a response team and I hear through the grapevine that hasn't happened yet.

If that occurred I can guarantee you it would be instant WW3 because there is a nation's pact that Russia is part of that says nuclear facilities are off-limits to cyber interference due to the potential radiological consequences.
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MAKES SENSE..MINIMALIZES MAHKET LOSSES AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.UH.
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MAKES SENSE..MINIMALIZES MAHKET LOSSES AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.UH.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
The timing seems right. Just from a rhythmic perspective. Theyve been working the "quiet" between the accent beats.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Who goes “all in” first!
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Who goes “all in” first!
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I hope no one but my guess would be if it ever got to that point Russia would beat us to the punch.
I am convinced US, Nato and Russia would have a limited exchange of tactical nuclear weapons with Russia striking first if it ever got to that point. I also believe that use of a single nuke would be scary enough to bring everybody to the table so to speak.
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It could be just a marathon of confusion to madden the western propagandist so that they are off next week and make bigger mistakes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82350052



Something along those lines wouldn't surprise me, I fully believe Russia's ability to scare the west is a very useful tool at this time, and the more confusion they can generate the better
 Quoting: Bgpete34


The Russian forces in Ukraine currently face SEVERE logistical problems. THAT needs to be straightened out right away.

Putin may also want to replace commanders who haven't been aggressive enough in the field.

I believe he'll focus on these two things Fri.-Sun.

In addition, he'll want to bomb as much infrastructure as possible before Ukraine can put surface-to-air missiles donated by NATO to use.
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Internet is going down in Europe including Russia
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Internet is going down in Europe including Russia
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friend in Spain said he is having issues also
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


I still think Russia will not cut off oil and gas... A change to only accepting rubles for it would temporarily do the same while the countries dependant on it scramble to get rubles and the ruble goes back up.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Internet is going down in Europe including Russia
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Internet is working fine in the US right now, at least for me but that is a scenario to watch for sure
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Global attack? European Attack?, or targets in the US?
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