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Russia will up the stakes late Friday

 
Bgpete34  (OP)

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Russia doesn't care about US domestic issues at the moment. It is going forward with its military operation in Ukraine and will just continue to do so.
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I would agree they have no interest in domestic affairs in the US, however when this was all starting Putin said something to the effect of taking us off SWIFT would be viewed as an act of war, and we have gone even further than that. Also I can't imagine he is thrilled about the munitions all the western countries are sending in. I just think if he doesn't make some counter measures to the sanctions, he looks kinda weak. Plus his speech this morning mentioning that the west need to restore normal relations with Russia was a different tone then I have heard from him in the past which makes me think I'm still onto something.
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Who goes “all in” first!
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I hope no one but my guess would be if it ever got to that point Russia would beat us to the punch.
I am convinced US, Nato and Russia would have a limited exchange of tactical nuclear weapons with Russia striking first if it ever got to that point. I also believe that use of a single nuke would be scary enough to bring everybody to the table so to speak.
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A single nuke would set all the nukes off on both sides.
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I'm not sure on that there is alot of literature that suggest a counter strike would be proportional, especially considering if it were a tactical nuke. An ICBM strike might set off a situation like you speak but I'm convinced people are smart enough not to get into a MAD scenario.
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My guess is a NATO no fly zone will go up either tonight or Sunday evening at the latest.The attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was the last straw.
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This could be what starts the cascade because a no fly zone is very close to NATO directly engaging Russia.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.

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Yes, they always do things late Friday nite ...........
and the stock market is right for a giant dip also.
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I have been following the whole cyber threat ever since WEF had a drill about it in the middle of December, similar to event 201, before the start of the corona.

My wife asked me in the beginning of the week when do I think it's going to happen if it's this week and I said Friday, so I think we might be onto something. But we might be wrong.

Check out my topic:
Thread: "Cyber Polygon" by WEF on the horizon! Biden on Russian cyberattack: "It's coming." (pg. 8)
 Quoting: The Bulgarian


What's your thoughts on what would be considered an effective strike in regards to this?

1)Minor public disruption maybe military targets, something that might remain hidden from public knowledge

2) moderate disruption shutting down some payment systems maybe some social media sites but very publicly visible.

3) major disruption with major consequences target grid an infrastructure, showing capabilities and making very publicly visible

4) major disruption but minor consequences disable all of internet for a period.

Probably some other options here as well
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So be it.

If it means no more covid bs talk, bring it.

Zero fucks given.

Thank you russia.
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I have been following the whole cyber threat ever since WEF had a drill about it in the middle of December, similar to event 201, before the start of the corona.

My wife asked me in the beginning of the week when do I think it's going to happen if it's this week and I said Friday, so I think we might be onto something. But we might be wrong.

Check out my topic:
Thread: "Cyber Polygon" by WEF on the horizon! Biden on Russian cyberattack: "It's coming." (pg. 8)
 Quoting: The Bulgarian


What's your thoughts on what would be considered an effective strike in regards to this?

1)Minor public disruption maybe military targets, something that might remain hidden from public knowledge

2) moderate disruption shutting down some payment systems maybe some social media sites but very publicly visible.

3) major disruption with major consequences target grid an infrastructure, showing capabilities and making very publicly visible

4) major disruption but minor consequences disable all of internet for a period.

Probably some other options here as well
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Can't really comment on the topic from a expert standpoint, but i can say right now no 3 would lead to a hot war, flat out, no 4 would have major effects on the us economy and would be seen as a declaration of war too most likely, no 2 is hard to say, and no 1 has been happening for over a decade by china so probably nothing.
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Russia is incredibly rich, the rest of the world is fucked by debt.

So, the broke ass vulture$ attempt to steal and exhaust russian wealth with sanctions.
Putin and the R.F are well aware.

The sanctions are ON YOU dumbasses.


Prepare to pay $10 litre at the fuel pump, $50 for a loaf of bread.

Ya gonna realise the hard way just how much the world relied on russia to function, now it will be very dysfunctional.
 Quoting: DiamondBlack


Russia is rich and maybe they have been preparing for this for along time but they are in a bad place as far as economic trade with all the sanctions. Maybe it doesn't matter to the state Russia can be self sufficient, it was during the old USSR but all the businesses operating within Russia are kind of up the creek right now if they trade internationally which is something Putin has to deal with.

As far as the rest of the world yes everyone is going to feel this to some degree.
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Internet is going down in Europe including Russia
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Russia is incredibly rich, the rest of the world is fucked by debt.

So, the broke ass vulture$ attempt to steal and exhaust russian wealth with sanctions.
Putin and the R.F are well aware.

The sanctions are ON YOU dumbasses.


Prepare to pay $10 litre at the fuel pump, $50 for a loaf of bread.

Ya gonna realise the hard way just how much the world relied on russia to function, now it will be very dysfunctional.
 Quoting: DiamondBlack


Russia is rich and maybe they have been preparing for this for along time but they are in a bad place as far as economic trade with all the sanctions. Maybe it doesn't matter to the state Russia can be self sufficient, it was during the old USSR but all the businesses operating within Russia are kind of up the creek right now if they trade internationally which is something Putin has to deal with.

As far as the rest of the world yes everyone is going to feel this to some degree.
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As they should. The world is due for some hardship.

God is in total control. Over everything.
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Been thinking . . .

Why did they push to covid prior to the war?
You know it was ALL planned in advance, so what was purpose of pushing out the covid for 2 years prior to this Russian kerrap?

Thoughts: To push the 'supply chain' problem - Reduce inventory/supplies to John and Jane Q Public?

Get a lot of ppl unemployed so they could not afford the new high prices they are pushing out on everything ....... Everything.

Kill off elderly medicare and social security $uckers.

Make the public afraid, so that when war starts, they will already be half afraid and ready to continue their fear, since they are already in 'fear mode'.

OR ...... was the war a last minute ditch effort to continue the madness since covid scenario was/is fading away (especially with summer.)


What are your thoughts on all this TIMING of things.
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Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
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??SPIN CITY
Russia stops oil supplies to United States
[link to english.pravda.ru (secure)]

U.S. Refiners Cut Russian Oil Imports
[link to oilprice.com (secure)]
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Problem is these vaxxed liberal left idiots, they think Russia is some small state like Texas with one or 2 nukes some lunatic is waving around, scared and bitter and that the USA will send 1000 troops and end the war.

Literally this is the idiots in the world we dealing with and even more scary thought some of them are in a position of power.

Face it, we are all fked! Something has to be done to these idiots, we cant have them around anymore. Their stupidity is a danger to us all and the planet!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80400620


So the whole convoy of russians who ran out of gas on the Road to Kyev is a trap? Russia really doesnt want to see what we have militarily first hand. China would be a tougher enemy. Perhaps we are baiting them and we will false flag ourselves so we can attack Russia full scale and wipe out Chinas biggest ally. Ive never seen DC as empty as its been this week, this morning esp. Wouldnt be surprised If a small nuke went off in DC this weekend.
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I hope for everyone's sake your wrong on the nuke thing, but I keep hearing everyone's going out of town this weekend or is gone, so the conspiracy theorist in me wants to make something of that , however it could also just be coincidence
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My guess is a NATO no fly zone will go up either tonight or Sunday evening at the latest.The attack on Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was the last straw.
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This could be what starts the cascade because a no fly zone is very close to NATO directly engaging Russia.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


My reason being,Neither Ukraine nor Russia are in full command of the situation on the ground.The Russian troops can't be trusted because they are cut off from their primary command and Ukraine is relying on militias to fight.Neither side is in control,this is a free for all.Hell we have deadly weapons that have just been abandoned where anyone can pick them up.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
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I would advise to pull some cash out just in case. But not go crazy with it. Always have a little something around so you won’t be totally screwed
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That's good advice, I always try to have enough cash on hand to make it for a period just because it's a good practice if there ever is a disaster.
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Russia will make it big and bold so that no one questions where it came from.
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Problem is these vaxxed liberal left idiots, they think Russia is some small state like Texas with one or 2 nukes some lunatic is waving around, scared and bitter and that the USA will send 1000 troops and end the war.

Literally this is the idiots in the world we dealing with and even more scary thought some of them are in a position of power.

Face it, we are all fked! Something has to be done to these idiots, we cant have them around anymore. Their stupidity is a danger to us all and the planet!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80400620


So the whole convoy of russians who ran out of gas on the Road to Kyev is a trap? Russia really doesnt want to see what we have militarily first hand. China would be a tougher enemy. Perhaps we are baiting them and we will false flag ourselves so we can attack Russia full scale and wipe out Chinas biggest ally. Ive never seen DC as empty as its been this week, this morning esp. Wouldnt be surprised If a small nuke went off in DC this weekend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67904014


I don't know if china would be tougher, it would depend on how dirty we were willing to get our hands because hardware wise russia has superior military hardware, just china has so many bodies it could throw at us.

As for a false flag, i could definitely see glowies false flagging americans to get into a war with russia, i mean there's some evidence that they have done it before after all.
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Been thinking . . .

Why did they push to covid prior to the war?
You know it was ALL planned in advance, so what was purpose of pushing out the covid for 2 years prior to this Russian kerrap?

Thoughts: To push the 'supply chain' problem - Reduce inventory/supplies to John and Jane Q Public?

Get a lot of ppl unemployed so they could not afford the new high prices they are pushing out on everything ....... Everything.

Kill off elderly medicare and social security $uckers.

Make the public afraid, so that when war starts, they will already be half afraid and ready to continue their fear, since they are already in 'fear mode'.

OR ...... was the war a last minute ditch effort to continue the madness since covid scenario was/is fading away (especially with summer.)


What are your thoughts on all this TIMING of things.
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Or, more simply…. God’s wrath and judgement are pouring out because man is evil and full of sin.

It’s not that complicated.

Get ready for more and far worse than Covid or war.

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recall ttownrussiangirls ?
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Remember the various spottings of Russian subs last month? Many were near undersea communication cables. Place a few charges to be blown later?
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That's on of my thoughts as well, I'm just hoping they won't go that far because knock out 2 of those communication cables and it would generate a cluster the like of which would takes weeks to recover from. I believe if you severe one it often takes 2 weeks just to do the repair ( not really an expert on that)
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Subsea cable repair can take anywhere from a week to a month. Typical repair time for abrasion/natural events is about 2 weeks.
Repair efforts include:
-Preparing ship and crew
-'Shooting fiber' or OTDR (optical time-domain reflectometer) testing to identify location of the damage (distance until light stops) from the landing station
-Planning repair
-Dispatch time for ship to arrive
-All customers need to cut off lasers before work begins because the cable will be disconnected at landing station panels and lights on is a tech safety risk
-Trawling or diving to pull up the cable
*when naturally broken, often see cable burial due to sediment shifting - this extends repair time as the cable needs to be uncovered*
-Repair work
-End to end testing
-Often in follow up: Fiber cleaning, card replacement.
-In addition: communication challenges between subsea cable provider, telcos and customers can cause some waiting.

If cables were cut intentionally at only a single point
Then, repair would be more straight forward
-Cut would be clean, so OTDR more reliable
-cable would not be buried (because it would need to be uncovered to cut)
-in this scenario, probable navy dispatch or at least navy coordination (faster response time)
-laser safety protocols would probably be suspended (disconnect cable without waiting on customers)
-additional repair resources dispatched, land and sea to perform more work in parallel

To do the most damage
Cable would be bombed or, I think more effective, cut at two or more points with the segment removed (to eliminate possibility of using slack cable during repair. Would force crew to fuse new cable.

All this said, I'm sure Starlink would be used to maintain critical government/military connectivity.
Assuming atlantic cable cuts, much trading and consumer/corporate global banking and logistics would go down. Access to many servers to and from US-EMEA would go down (bye GLP!) Etc. Impact would be extensive.
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Our Government over the past 10 years and mostly under obama gave away TOP SECRET info pertaining to our Nuclear facilities .

Shift times for security / The floor plan and security type / Weapons type of security / names of high ranking officers at the facilities .

I just worked for a former D.O.D. worker Dept. Homeland Sec. man .

He was at the New Jersey Plant . He said he resigned after they had a security meeting that informed all the security staff of a breach .

He said Documents discovered in Iraq from a cache the Marines raided had papers and legit floor plans of the Nuclear plant he worked at .

These documents were from the State Dept . how they were in Iraq is a mystery . Obviously A traitor provided them .


Any way it had all the security time/ changes/ man power / Door codes access / Commander info and even civilian engineer info .


He said he quit the following week .


This was 8 years ago I think .


The fact is that we have agents in our Gov. that intentionally have passed on this vital internal info to our enemies for Sabotage purposes.


America will be targeted soon and MSM will run with it !

Yes they will blame Russia .
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Security inside nuclear facilities is actually very secure now from what I have seen however around or near them not so much, if something were to ever happen I guarantee you it would be to a spent fuel pool, decommissioned waste facility rather than an operational reactor. Some of the access there is scary like there is a story of a fisherman basically being on door away from just walking into a spent fuel pool because he was looking for a place to use the bathroom.

As far as cyber security I have heard that there are a bunch of switches and valves that can be easily accessed by someone who only has minot hacking abilities.
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I see Globalist Cabal NWO Tyrants ,losing there fkng mind,

hopefully literally . Putin holds the Full House over Europe right now with that Nuke Energy Plant.

Ukraine needs to be under his wing or the globalist shits will rule all.

Some of you may never grasp this??
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You’re going to want to read this article OP!

[link to amp.washingtontimes.com (secure)]

And check the published date.
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Holy McKrap

scroll down to middle by colorful map - that's where it gets good.
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So be it.

If it means no more covid bs talk, bring it.

Zero fucks given.

Thank you russia.
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Agreed. Sick of the rubbish
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Covid has reached 6Million deaths and who cares anymore?
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Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
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