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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


People have been saying this every day since it started
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"Been thinking . . .

Why did they push to covid prior to the war?
You know it was ALL planned in advance, so what was purpose of pushing out the covid for 2 years prior to this Russian kerrap?

Thoughts: To push the 'supply chain' problem - Reduce inventory/supplies to John and Jane Q Public?

Get a lot of ppl unemployed so they could not afford the new high prices they are pushing out on everything ....... Everything.

Kill off elderly medicare and social security $uckers.

Make the public afraid, so that when war starts, they will already be half afraid and ready to continue their fear, since they are already in 'fear mode'.

OR ...... was the war a last minute ditch effort to continue the madness since covid scenario was/is fading away (especially with summer.)


What are your thoughts on all this TIMING of things."

Distractions.....One after another each growing in intensity etc. And more to come.

Look to the skies.

Buckle up.....
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


During WWII, in the face of the rapidly advancing German armies, Russia dismantled its industrial base, put it on railroad cars (1 million carloads) transported it eastward out of the range of German bombers, reassembled the factories and began producing war materials. Does anyone think that Russia would be severely impacted by sanctions? I think not. Sanctions are child's play in comparison to what the Russians did during WWII.
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Covid has reached 6Million deaths and who cares anymore?
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People die every day. Why is Covid so important? Answer: it’s not. If people don’t want to get vaccinated and die, what is the big deal? The fact is, the vaccines don’t do shit. If any, they are causing problems.

Fuck this world and I hope it all ends soon because the stupidity is ridiculous.
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Been thinking . . .

Why did they push to covid prior to the war?
You know it was ALL planned in advance, so what was purpose of pushing out the covid for 2 years prior to this Russian kerrap?

Thoughts: To push the 'supply chain' problem - Reduce inventory/supplies to John and Jane Q Public?

Get a lot of ppl unemployed so they could not afford the new high prices they are pushing out on everything ....... Everything.

Kill off elderly medicare and social security $uckers.

Make the public afraid, so that when war starts, they will already be half afraid and ready to continue their fear, since they are already in 'fear mode'.

OR ...... was the war a last minute ditch effort to continue the madness since covid scenario was/is fading away (especially with summer.)


What are your thoughts on all this TIMING of things.
 Quoting: Time is on our side? 79838414


The timing on everything on this is suspect, but working around government for along time it's hard for me to buy into large government conspiracies just because at an operational level government are pretty inept ( well at least in the US) if you have ever had to work with the EPA you probably would stop thinking of the government as evil and just start to feel sorry for them.

Seriously speaking though I often wonder if we intentionally ramp up rhetoric in this to make everyone forget about covid quicker.
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Remember the various spottings of Russian subs last month? Many were near undersea communication cables. Place a few charges to be blown later?
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That's on of my thoughts as well, I'm just hoping they won't go that far because knock out 2 of those communication cables and it would generate a cluster the like of which would takes weeks to recover from. I believe if you severe one it often takes 2 weeks just to do the repair ( not really an expert on that)
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Subsea cable repair can take anywhere from a week to a month. Typical repair time for abrasion/natural events is about 2 weeks.
Repair efforts include:
-Preparing ship and crew
-'Shooting fiber' or OTDR (optical time-domain reflectometer) testing to identify location of the damage (distance until light stops) from the landing station
-Planning repair
-Dispatch time for ship to arrive
-All customers need to cut off lasers before work begins because the cable will be disconnected at landing station panels and lights on is a tech safety risk
-Trawling or diving to pull up the cable
*when naturally broken, often see cable burial due to sediment shifting - this extends repair time as the cable needs to be uncovered*
-Repair work
-End to end testing
-Often in follow up: Fiber cleaning, card replacement.
-In addition: communication challenges between subsea cable provider, telcos and customers can cause some waiting.

If cables were cut intentionally at only a single point
Then, repair would be more straight forward
-Cut would be clean, so OTDR more reliable
-cable would not be buried (because it would need to be uncovered to cut)
-in this scenario, probable navy dispatch or at least navy coordination (faster response time)
-laser safety protocols would probably be suspended (disconnect cable without waiting on customers)
-additional repair resources dispatched, land and sea to perform more work in parallel

To do the most damage
Cable would be bombed or, I think more effective, cut at two or more points with the segment removed (to eliminate possibility of using slack cable during repair. Would force crew to fuse new cable.

All this said, I'm sure Starlink would be used to maintain critical government/military connectivity.
Assuming atlantic cable cuts, much trading and consumer/corporate global banking and logistics would go down. Access to many servers to and from US-EMEA would go down (bye GLP!) Etc. Impact would be extensive.
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You can probably answer this because you seem educated on the topic.

Do most governments have a emergency comms satellite ( obviously the military has several) but does the government have satellites that can act as redundancy that could be utilized by say police or essential service?

I've always wondered what systems were in place should a disruption occur
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Thank you Russia
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Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


The current situation has parallels of both world wars, financial difficulties, rampant breakdown of social norms, tons of saber rattling, rising powers challenge the old powers for dominance, monitary sanctions and blockading of the rising powers, and both wars started over a invasion.

If the us get's attacked first then it will also be the third war in which the us got involved after being militarily attacked first in some way.
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Isn’t it already late Friday there?
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


During WWII, in the face of the rapidly advancing German armies, Russia dismantled its industrial base, put it on railroad cars (1 million carloads) transported it eastward out of the range of German bombers, reassembled the factories and began producing war materials. Does anyone think that Russia would be severely impacted by sanctions? I think not. Sanctions are child's play in comparison to what the Russians did during WWII.
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As far as the state is concerned Russia can be cut off an entirely self sufficient, however in the modern Era of Russia I think Putin will have to answer to alot of people because of disruptions in business etc. It's a different world today. Maybe putin doesn't care, but cutting all ties basically changes the principles of there modern day economy and will cause some issues for the average citizen.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
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Nice prelude.
Can you write chapter 1?
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Could it be that Russia announced going on the gold standard today? Could wreck everyones economy.

When Muammar Qaddafi in Libya planned on a Gold-backed currency for all of Africa, the West went into Libya and overthrew him.

When Saddam Hussein in Iraq announced he would start selling oil in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar, two months later was Iraq War 2 - and they hung him!

The U.S. Dollar being the sole reserve currency for this planet is why wars get waged, and now Russia has completely, totally smashed it.
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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


The current situation has parallels of both world wars, financial difficulties, rampant breakdown of social norms, tons of saber rattling, rising powers challenge the old powers for dominance, monitary sanctions and blockading of the rising powers, and both wars started over a invasion.

If the us get's attacked first then it will also be the third war in which the us got involved after being militarily attacked first in some way.
 Quoting: Tatsuya



Therein lies the rub what exactly are we going to consider an attack. Russia had a history of being provocative but it makes no sense to have open war. That's one of the reasons I think the cyber threat is so high because it might not be considered a declaration of war. Also it could be done in a way that might take weeks to trace responsibility ( although that doesn't seem like it would fit the Russian narrative)

A concern I have also thought about is with tensions so high, would another actor conduct a cyber operation knowing full well blame is going to be immediately assigned to Russia.
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Could it be that Russia announced going on the gold standard today? Could wreck everyones economy.

When Muammar Qaddafi in Libya planned on a Gold-backed currency for all of Africa, the West went into Libya and overthrew him.

When Saddam Hussein in Iraq announced he would start selling oil in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar, two months later was Iraq War 2 - and they hung him!

The U.S. Dollar being the sole reserve currency for this planet is why wars get waged, and now Russia has completely, totally smashed it.
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I didn't think of that but that would definitely cause some economic chaos. Honestly I'm not educated enough on the topic to know exactly what the repercussions of that would be. I'm guessing that would stabilize the ruble.
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Your post sounds genuine OP. Thanks for the heads up. We'll keep an eye on it.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


rest assured, the Russians will not touch U.. since the US has called itself out. Europe, after World War II, has always supported the US for 80 years in all your questionable campaigns. Now that we need them, they've called themselves out.
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Could it be that Russia announced going on the gold standard today? Could wreck everyones economy.

When Muammar Qaddafi in Libya planned on a Gold-backed currency for all of Africa, the West went into Libya and overthrew him.

When Saddam Hussein in Iraq announced he would start selling oil in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar, two months later was Iraq War 2 - and they hung him!

The U.S. Dollar being the sole reserve currency for this planet is why wars get waged, and now Russia has completely, totally smashed it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81632084


I didn't think of that but that would definitely cause some economic chaos. Honestly I'm not educated enough on the topic to know exactly what the repercussions of that would be. I'm guessing that would stabilize the ruble.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Conversely it could de-stabilize the dollar and bring and end to it being the world reserve currency.
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Nuke B_52's in the air. WWIII.

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Nuke B_52's in the air. WWIII.

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Waiting to drop their nukes, WWIII.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If they close their airspace to every country sanctioning them, air travel to and from Asia virtually stops
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Could it be that Russia announced going on the gold standard today? Could wreck everyones economy.

When Muammar Qaddafi in Libya planned on a Gold-backed currency for all of Africa, the West went into Libya and overthrew him.

When Saddam Hussein in Iraq announced he would start selling oil in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar, two months later was Iraq War 2 - and they hung him!

The U.S. Dollar being the sole reserve currency for this planet is why wars get waged, and now Russia has completely, totally smashed it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81632084


I didn't think of that but that would definitely cause some economic chaos. Honestly I'm not educated enough on the topic to know exactly what the repercussions of that would be. I'm guessing that would stabilize the ruble.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Conversely it could de-stabilize the dollar and bring and end to it being the world reserve currency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81632084


Could it be that Russia announced going on the gold standard today? Could wreck everyones economy.

When Muammar Qaddafi in Libya planned on a Gold-backed currency for all of Africa, the West went into Libya and overthrew him.

When Saddam Hussein in Iraq announced he would start selling oil in currencies other than the U.S. Dollar, two months later was Iraq War 2 - and they hung him!

The U.S. Dollar being the sole reserve currency for this planet is why wars get waged, and now Russia has completely, totally smashed it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81632084


I didn't think of that but that would definitely cause some economic chaos. Honestly I'm not educated enough on the topic to know exactly what the repercussions of that would be. I'm guessing that would stabilize the ruble.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Conversely it could de-stabilize the dollar and bring and end to it being the world reserve currency.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81632084


There was alot of talk of this going before the invasion, I think for that to happen it requires Chinese participation. If this were to happen I'm guessing it would severely weaken the dollar against the ruble and push the price of Russian oil even higher which could have some implications.
Again macroeconomics aren't really my strong suit but that would be a seriously intensting development also that would pay along the line of keeping the Russian stock market closed until the new currency backing could be implemented.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Hmmmm Southern California Edison has a planned outage for our area tomorrow (Saturday 3/5/22) for most of the day. I wonder if it will come back on. I am up to 37 gallons of stored fuel in nato cans. Be ready GLP'ers.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
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Hmmmm Southern California Edison has a planned outage for our area tomorrow (Saturday 3/5/22) for most of the day. I wonder if it will come back on. I am up to 37 gallons of stored fuel in nato cans. Be ready GLP'ers.
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Fuel mostly for our generator and vehicles.
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Yes but Wednesday, 22, March is the global nuclear war.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
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We are destroying ourselves

No need for Russia to do anything

Never get in the wa of your enemy

Especially when they are doing it to themselves

Think there is multiple way of saying same thing

They all apply
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If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
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Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
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The current situation has parallels of both world wars, financial difficulties, rampant breakdown of social norms, tons of saber rattling, rising powers challenge the old powers for dominance, monitary sanctions and blockading of the rising powers, and both wars started over a invasion.

If the us get's attacked first then it will also be the third war in which the us got involved after being militarily attacked first in some way.
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Therein lies the rub what exactly are we going to consider an attack. Russia had a history of being provocative but it makes no sense to have open war. That's one of the reasons I think the cyber threat is so high because it might not be considered a declaration of war. Also it could be done in a way that might take weeks to trace responsibility ( although that doesn't seem like it would fit the Russian narrative)

A concern I have also thought about is with tensions so high, would another actor conduct a cyber operation knowing full well blame is going to be immediately assigned to Russia.
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Honestly a false flag is likely, either by the us, or by a nato member state, just as much as russia i'd say.
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We should have been strategically pre-emptive with this asshole YEARS ago...

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