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Russia will up the stakes late Friday

 
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


US and European satelites would be prime targets...
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Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


The current situation has parallels of both world wars, financial difficulties, rampant breakdown of social norms, tons of saber rattling, rising powers challenge the old powers for dominance, monitary sanctions and blockading of the rising powers, and both wars started over a invasion.

If the us get's attacked first then it will also be the third war in which the us got involved after being militarily attacked first in some way.
 Quoting: Tatsuya



Therein lies the rub what exactly are we going to consider an attack. Russia had a history of being provocative but it makes no sense to have open war. That's one of the reasons I think the cyber threat is so high because it might not be considered a declaration of war. Also it could be done in a way that might take weeks to trace responsibility ( although that doesn't seem like it would fit the Russian narrative)

A concern I have also thought about is with tensions so high, would another actor conduct a cyber operation knowing full well blame is going to be immediately assigned to Russia.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Honestly a false flag is likely, either by the us, or by a nato member state, just as much as russia i'd say.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


I keep thinking that there is alot of incentive for something like that done by Ukraine to pull the west into the fight, honestly when I saw the nuclear power plant hit last night that's right where my head went. That ended up being nothing but think of the same situation with the plant operators thinking well we have already been hit, let's disable some of the cooling pumps and blame it on Russia because then Nato would have to get involved. I'm glad they didn't but it would have been that easy last night, and unfortunately I think there will be many more opportunities like that and as Russia moves closer to complete control increasing desperation from the Ukrainian government.

I can't see an advantage for the US to do anything unless it really is our strategy to start WW3 and as much as I dislike Biden he has shown some restraint in that regard.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


US and European satelites would be prime targets...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80606068


Disabling civilian GPS would be a pretty ingenious strategy actaully because that would be super disruptive but don't think it would have many long term consequences.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Covid has reached 6Million deaths and who cares anymore?
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People die every day. Why is Covid so important? Answer: it’s not. If people don’t want to get vaccinated and die, what is the big deal? The fact is, the vaccines don’t do shit. If any, they are causing problems.

Fuck this world and I hope it all ends soon because the stupidity is ridiculous.
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Nope It won't. It is the Apocalypse. The stakes will go higher
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Just got word from someone in the Stan countries that Putin made a deal to bring in another quarter million troops With another half a million in reserves
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
I have been following the whole cyber threat ever since WEF had a drill about it in the middle of December, similar to event 201, before the start of the corona.

My wife asked me in the beginning of the week when do I think it's going to happen if it's this week and I said Friday, so I think we might be onto something. But we might be wrong.

Check out my topic:
Thread: "Cyber Polygon" by WEF on the horizon! Biden on Russian cyberattack: "It's coming." (pg. 8)
 Quoting: The Bulgarian


What's your thoughts on what would be considered an effective strike in regards to this?

1)Minor public disruption maybe military targets, something that might remain hidden from public knowledge

2) moderate disruption shutting down some payment systems maybe some social media sites but very publicly visible.

3) major disruption with major consequences target grid an infrastructure, showing capabilities and making very publicly visible

4) major disruption but minor consequences disable all of internet for a period.

Probably some other options here as well
 Quoting: Bgpete34

In case of a genuine Russian cyber attack I think the US will be able to fight back and defend itself quite well. Russian cyber power is overestimated. They are good, but US is actually better in this.

However, I am more inclined to think it will be a FF. In this case it will be quite spectacular. Some sort of a new generation data wiper will probably start hitting the banks and it will quickly spread outside the banking system. People will be told to turn everything off in order to secure their information and the world will come to a stand still.

Or nothing like this will happen and I have been reading to much conspiracy theories. :)
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Just got word from someone in the Stan countries that Putin made a deal to bring in another quarter million troops With another half a million in reserves
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My mom has a friend who's uncle is a cook in the mess hall at Fort Huachuca who say's that this isn't true. But there will be a group bringing in 1000 tricycles for under priveleged children.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Well they have already:

Stopped oil shipments to the U.S.
Cut off gas supply to Europe
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34166608


Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Funny you mention WWII. Watched documentary couple weeks ago about WWII and the USA did not want to get involved in Europe.

Well didn’t a classified message from Germany get intercepted.

It stated that Germany did not want US to get involved. That Hilter was going to put forces on Mexico, Texas and Arizona border to keep us busy.

How convenient .

Got everybody to rally around taking Hitler out. People were getting in line to sign up for the war.

It united everybody in this effort.

Seems like this always happens in someone’s favor.

Remember 2001?
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
I have been following the whole cyber threat ever since WEF had a drill about it in the middle of December, similar to event 201, before the start of the corona.

My wife asked me in the beginning of the week when do I think it's going to happen if it's this week and I said Friday, so I think we might be onto something. But we might be wrong.

Check out my topic:
Thread: "Cyber Polygon" by WEF on the horizon! Biden on Russian cyberattack: "It's coming." (pg. 8)
 Quoting: The Bulgarian


What's your thoughts on what would be considered an effective strike in regards to this?

1)Minor public disruption maybe military targets, something that might remain hidden from public knowledge

2) moderate disruption shutting down some payment systems maybe some social media sites but very publicly visible.

3) major disruption with major consequences target grid an infrastructure, showing capabilities and making very publicly visible

4) major disruption but minor consequences disable all of internet for a period.

Probably some other options here as well
 Quoting: Bgpete34

In case of a genuine Russian cyber attack I think the US will be able to fight back and defend itself quite well. Russian cyber power is overestimated. They are good, but US is actually better in this.

However, I am more inclined to think it will be a FF. In this case it will be quite spectacular. Some sort of a new generation data wiper will probably start hitting the banks and it will quickly spread outside the banking system. People will be told to turn everything off in order to secure their information and the world will come to a stand still.

Or nothing like this will happen and I have been reading to much conspiracy theories. :)
 Quoting: The Bulgarian


It could easily be some sort of false flag I'm as guilty as anyone of going "down the rabbit hole" on this one and easily nothing could happen. There are just so many signs that I'm seeing that point to some kind of event happening but maybe that is the case all the time and I'm just being ultra cognizant right now
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


USA intel sources? Right now, if they told me the weather, I would still have to check outside.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Remember the various spottings of Russian subs last month? Many were near undersea communication cables. Place a few charges to be blown later?
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


That's on of my thoughts as well, I'm just hoping they won't go that far because knock out 2 of those communication cables and it would generate a cluster the like of which would takes weeks to recover from. I believe if you severe one it often takes 2 weeks just to do the repair ( not really an expert on that)
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Subsea cable repair can take anywhere from a week to a month. Typical repair time for abrasion/natural events is about 2 weeks.
Repair efforts include:
-Preparing ship and crew
-'Shooting fiber' or OTDR (optical time-domain reflectometer) testing to identify location of the damage (distance until light stops) from the landing station
-Planning repair
-Dispatch time for ship to arrive
-All customers need to cut off lasers before work begins because the cable will be disconnected at landing station panels and lights on is a tech safety risk
-Trawling or diving to pull up the cable
*when naturally broken, often see cable burial due to sediment shifting - this extends repair time as the cable needs to be uncovered*
-Repair work
-End to end testing
-Often in follow up: Fiber cleaning, card replacement.
-In addition: communication challenges between subsea cable provider, telcos and customers can cause some waiting.

If cables were cut intentionally at only a single point
Then, repair would be more straight forward
-Cut would be clean, so OTDR more reliable
-cable would not be buried (because it would need to be uncovered to cut)
-in this scenario, probable navy dispatch or at least navy coordination (faster response time)
-laser safety protocols would probably be suspended (disconnect cable without waiting on customers)
-additional repair resources dispatched, land and sea to perform more work in parallel

To do the most damage
Cable would be bombed or, I think more effective, cut at two or more points with the segment removed (to eliminate possibility of using slack cable during repair. Would force crew to fuse new cable.

All this said, I'm sure Starlink would be used to maintain critical government/military connectivity.
Assuming atlantic cable cuts, much trading and consumer/corporate global banking and logistics would go down. Access to many servers to and from US-EMEA would go down (bye GLP!) Etc. Impact would be extensive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82255315



You can probably answer this because you seem educated on the topic.

Do most governments have a emergency comms satellite ( obviously the military has several) but does the government have satellites that can act as redundancy that could be utilized by say police or essential service?

I've always wondered what systems were in place should a disruption occur
 Quoting: Bgpete34


I can't speak specifically but all critical infrastructure has redundancy designed into comms and power.
If our governments don't have satellite stations then some people in their network infrastructure teams should be fired.
Critical infrastructure is tiered, I don't have a table to tell you exactly but I'm quite certain that emergency services, although important, are not the most critical infrastructure and probably only the most strategic sites have satellite connectivity.
I'm talking Fiber from location to a satellite communications provider, not sat-phone.
When I say not the most critical, I mean it in the same way the public internet isn't most critical.
If there was extensive comms and power damage in North America, military, government, aviation, banking infrastructure would be prioritized for repair.
I think your local police station and fire departments would be next.
Public internet would be quite low priority. You would probably have Cell service and power back first, as it would be the fastest way (other than radio and analog tv) to ensure public access to information.
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Never trust a Russian.

They might pull a Crazy Ivan!

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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Funny you mention WWII. Watched documentary couple weeks ago about WWII and the USA did not want to get involved in Europe.

Well didn’t a classified message from Germany get intercepted.

It stated that Germany did not want US to get involved. That Hilter was going to put forces on Mexico, Texas and Arizona border to keep us busy.

How convenient .

Got everybody to rally around taking Hitler out. People were getting in line to sign up for the war.

It united everybody in this effort.

Seems like this always happens in someone’s favor.

Remember 2001?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78323464


I honestly take the delicacy of the situation as a positive right now somewhat because I'm confident if the US or Nato really wanted to be involved they could have easily engineered a situation to make that happen. The fact that it hasn't yet makes me believe that we aren't all that keen on getting involved in the conflict beyond sanctions.

However, I am convinced from a Russian stand point we have crossed a few boundaries in regards to sanctions and military aid.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Never trust a Russian.

They might pull a Crazy Ivan!

putingotbop
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This thread was totally worth it just to have the Crazy Ivan mentioned
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This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


USA intel sources? Right now, if they told me the weather, I would still have to check outside.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79470017

That being said China and the USA have huge incentives to do this as well and blame Russia. By the USA baiting Russia into going into Ukraine, they made Russia the cover up for:

1. Explaining more surplus deaths from the vaxs in the future.

2. Blaming Russia for the economic collapse that started before all this.

3. Blaming Russia for the new pathogen(s) that Gates and Fauci want to release no the world that God is already warning our Bible Study about.

We have been at a turning point where the world may find out the full truth and go after those who actually killed them and there loved ones but who have not yet died. I expected a war right now to be instigated to try to cover up everything for much longer. It was the next logical step in the grand deception. Somewhere in the shadows, I think Obama had a great deal to do with this.

In the devils strategies, it is never the provocation by Ukraines govt that is the problem, only the defense by the other party is the problem. If you can train people for this, then the devil can raise hell on earth whenever he wants and bait countries into defending themselves.
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Russia is incredibly rich, the rest of the world is fucked by debt.

So, the broke ass vulture$ attempt to steal and exhaust russian wealth with sanctions.
Putin and the R.F are well aware.

The sanctions are ON YOU dumbasses.


Prepare to pay $10 litre at the fuel pump, $50 for a loaf of bread.

Ya gonna realise the hard way just how much the world relied on russia to function, now it will be very dysfunctional.
 Quoting: DiamondBlack


Russia is rich and maybe they have been preparing for this for along time but they are in a bad place as far as economic trade with all the sanctions. Maybe it doesn't matter to the state Russia can be self sufficient, it was during the old USSR but all the businesses operating within Russia are kind of up the creek right now if they trade internationally which is something Putin has to deal with.

As far as the rest of the world yes everyone is going to feel this to some degree.
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All Russia has to do to counter all those sanctions is to cut off all Wheat exports. As the world's largest exporter of that essential grain, Russia holds all the cards there.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
This is just an opinion but I'm am using some actaul Intel here.

I am absolutely convinced late in the day Friday let's say 6pm EST or later Russia is going to make some type of move. People I have talked to from my work who work in government agencies almost exclusively say Russia will try do something as response to sanctions and just my general observation is there seems to be preparation for some kinda of cyber attack or at least something where comms are affected.

There was alot of talk of Russia implementing some sort at war measures in the country on Friday.

Also, striking when banks and markets are closed reduces some of the economic damage which I'm guessing they would want to do, also might not strain relationships with international private businesses as much as if done during the workweek.

Russia also has a severe disdain for president Biden and him going home for the weekend the first days of the invasion was very noted by the Russian leadership.

There has also been alot of talk of something like this happening and 2 people I know that potentially could be in the know are both going out of town to very remote locations tomorrow ( one upper peninsula of Michigan, the other was going way out west to go snowmobiling.

My feelings are that this will be something Russia can walk back from while still showing their ability to retaliate.
I don't think this we be nuclear war or anything to that extent.

I would just be prepared to have no banking or card services over the weekend and possibly no power or something along those lines.

Would love to hear if anyone else has similar thoughts or information.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


USA intel sources? Right now, if they told me the weather, I would still have to check outside.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79470017


I agree with that for the most part but my concerns are more based on observation than actaul Intel. But to add to your theme if you ever read some of the initial FEMA and DHS releases about covid there was a good consensus that it was doom of an epic level and it ended up being the flu with government oversight.
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03/04/2022 11:47 AM
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
It is a pity for glp threads that ban ac, or massive IP bans too without option even to read. And advantage i dont have to respond to all bs.

What will happen or what will not happen, frankly does not depend on someone's strange comment here. When the nukes start falling, no more glp or msm. It is that simple. End game for whoever didn't understand it by now
The sooner, the better
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03/04/2022 11:50 AM
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Russia is incredibly rich, the rest of the world is fucked by debt.

So, the broke ass vulture$ attempt to steal and exhaust russian wealth with sanctions.
Putin and the R.F are well aware.

The sanctions are ON YOU dumbasses.


Prepare to pay $10 litre at the fuel pump, $50 for a loaf of bread.

Ya gonna realise the hard way just how much the world relied on russia to function, now it will be very dysfunctional.
 Quoting: DiamondBlack


Russia is rich and maybe they have been preparing for this for along time but they are in a bad place as far as economic trade with all the sanctions. Maybe it doesn't matter to the state Russia can be self sufficient, it was during the old USSR but all the businesses operating within Russia are kind of up the creek right now if they trade internationally which is something Putin has to deal with.

As far as the rest of the world yes everyone is going to feel this to some degree.
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All Russia has to do to counter all those sanctions is to cut off all Wheat exports. As the world's largest exporter of that essential grain, Russia holds all the cards there.
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Has Russia leveraged sale of wheat yet? because although it wouldn't effect US that would have some very severe consequences worldwide. Honestly I'm not strong enough with economics to fully grasp how strong or weak of a position Russia is in. With the devaluation of the ruble, I'm assuming the do have some risk with the sanctions
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Atmospheric nuclear test in uninhabited area, said Stoltenberg
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That would be hard to pull off unless they gave us warning ahead of time, reason being launch of a nuclear capable missile could immediately initiate a response
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Cyber attacks on the grid especially nuclear power plants are likely. I worked in that industry and they have major vulnerabilities.
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I work in hazardous materials, so I take classes with and know a bunch of the workers at various nuclear plants near me ( Fermi, Besse) they have told me for along time what you just said. However , if there is fear of an imminent threat they all get put on call or a response team and I hear through the grapevine that hasn't happened yet.

If that occurred I can guarantee you it would be instant WW3 because there is a nation's pact that Russia is part of that says nuclear facilities are off-limits to cyber interference due to the potential radiological consequences.
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guarantee huh? who's that work?
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For the sake of the Russian people, let's hope not

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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
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If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
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Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
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Funny you mention WWII. Watched documentary couple weeks ago about WWII and the USA did not want to get involved in Europe.

Well didn’t a classified message from Germany get intercepted.

It stated that Germany did not want US to get involved. That Hilter was going to put forces on Mexico, Texas and Arizona border to keep us busy.

How convenient .

Got everybody to rally around taking Hitler out. People were getting in line to sign up for the war.

It united everybody in this effort.

Seems like this always happens in someone’s favor.

Remember 2001?
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Again making some assumptions here but I think we are worried about is Russia wants to make a statement where the effects are immediately visible. 1) to demonstrate capabilities 2) as a warning 3) as a statement that the general population of western nations are not immune to hardship , it will not just be those in Russia and Ukraine that will suffer if the west continues on the path its on.
 Quoting: Bgpete34


If that's true they better be careful, if it's anything that the us people could see as a attack on them, it could start war rhetoric against russia fast and potentially cause a hot war, people seem to forget what got us into ww2 was japan attacking us on our home soil (ironically, after we had sanctioned japan over it's war activities in china), which galvanized the american people to want japanese blood, the american people are nothing if not stubborn and a direct attack on the us mainland would likely temporarily unite alot of the us in hatred of russia and china.
 Quoting: Tatsuya


Unfortunately I see alot of parallels between pre WWII tensions and the present tensions, I also think it doesn't help none of our leaders have been alive through a period of all encompassing war. Vietnam would be close if you served but the public was somewhat insulated from any repercussions on that. So I'm somewhat convinced our leaders are being alittle more complacent than they should be in this situation
 Quoting: Bgpete34


Funny you mention WWII. Watched documentary couple weeks ago about WWII and the USA did not want to get involved in Europe.

Well didn’t a classified message from Germany get intercepted.

It stated that Germany did not want US to get involved. That Hilter was going to put forces on Mexico, Texas and Arizona border to keep us busy.

How convenient .

Got everybody to rally around taking Hitler out. People were getting in line to sign up for the war.

It united everybody in this effort.

Seems like this always happens in someone’s favor.

Remember 2001?
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
For the sake of the Russian people, let's hope not


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For the sake of the Russian people, let's hope not


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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
You’re going to want to read this article OP!

[link to amp.washingtontimes.com (secure)]

And check the published date.
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You beat me to it, but it's all there in this article. EMP... That's what Russia is going to use to upper hand themselves. I am not a hundred percent sure if it will be in Europe, initially, or North America, but I believe there is a Attack coming soon.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
Our Government over the past 10 years and mostly under obama gave away TOP SECRET info pertaining to our Nuclear facilities .

Shift times for security / The floor plan and security type / Weapons type of security / names of high ranking officers at the facilities .

I just worked for a former D.O.D. worker Dept. Homeland Sec. man .

He was at the New Jersey Plant . He said he resigned after they had a security meeting that informed all the security staff of a breach .

He said Documents discovered in Iraq from a cache the Marines raided had papers and legit floor plans of the Nuclear plant he worked at .

These documents were from the State Dept . how they were in Iraq is a mystery . Obviously A traitor provided them .


Any way it had all the security time/ changes/ man power / Door codes access / Commander info and even civilian engineer info .


He said he quit the following week .


This was 8 years ago I think .


The fact is that we have agents in our Gov. that intentionally have passed on this vital internal info to our enemies for Sabotage purposes.


America will be targeted soon and MSM will run with it !

Yes they will blame Russia .
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Sounds like a dream I had: Israel paid Pakistan to nuke the United States. They also supplied the nukes. When the U.S. was destroyed Israel stated that they had evidence that it was done by Russia and attacked them. The truth is that Israel was paid by China to do this. China believed that Russia was its number one enemy and wanted rid of them.
Weird dream.
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Re: Russia will up the stakes late Friday
My guy says on monday's going to change the history of Europe. A VERY LARGE nuke, only ONE will be set off.





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