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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82465928 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning. Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house. At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist. Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74537843 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82465928 Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house. At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist. Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general. We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period. We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82465928 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Thread: The REAL QUESTION IS.....why oh WHY ARE RAPTURE TARDS PUSHING THE VAX?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82466218 [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Thread: AUSTRALIA PUBLICLY DELCLARES a NEW WORLD ORDER TODAY...UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF A RAPTURE TARD Thread: Lol....the RAPTURE TARDS ARE PUSHING THE MARK IF THE BEAST!!! I watch multiple pre Trib teachers. All of them warn against the vax. I assume these are talking about Franklin Graham and rhe few other mega preacher guys who preach pre Trib. They are sold out to the world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God I believe the Rapture to be true. You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better. I don't think you do. I believe Jesus Christ. Not you. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God "But take heed to yourselves, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81651133 lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36 . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74537843 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God I believe the Rapture to be true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82460040 You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better. I don't think you do. I believe Jesus Christ. Not you. . Will Gods children be here during Antichrist's reign? Yes or no? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74537843 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God "But take heed to yourselves, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81651133 lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36 . Everyone knows it will happen, but the debate is when? before Antichrist's reign, or after? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Somebody doesn't want you to read this post and won't let it copy here so go see for yourself: Thread: The Rapture and the Timing of the Two Witnesses . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56019491 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God I believe the Rapture to be true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82460040 You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better. I don't think you do. I believe Jesus Christ. Not you. . Will Gods children be here during Antichrist's reign? Yes or no? It is said, endure to the end. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82465928 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82465928 Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house. At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist. Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general. We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period. We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us. He doesn't burn up the world until the end of the Millennial reign. At the end of the Trib the Bible teaches that He ascends, the world sees Him, and He then destroys the armies with a word. He sets up a 1000 year kingdom and those who lived through the world populate the earth, which Jesus has returned to a perfected state. Lucifer and the fallen Angel's are locked up in hell, along with all those who followed them. Jesus rules from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. At the end of that time that generations have grown to hate Him as He rules perfectly, no sin allowed. Lucifer is released and the people revolt against Jesus. He then casts them all into hell and then God melts the world like wax and remakes it into a totally new planet. That is the end of the 7000 years of creation as taught in the Bible. That is what Revelation teaches. I believe we are taken out before God's wrath because Paul taught it and so did the early church fathers. Jesus taught it in the Upper Room discourse as well. I have to disagree. But I will say again, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian these days have no idea about eschatology and they will accept the Antichrist as messiah, IMO. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82460040 Jesus to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming. Guess what that means? Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming unless some will escape the things that are coming. That means some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth and to go stand with Jesus! That's what He said. Do you believe Him? I do. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82460040 Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming. Guess what that means? Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming unless some will escape the things that are coming. That means some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth and to go stand with Jesus! That's what He said. Do you believe Him? I do. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74537843 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82465928 Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house. At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist. Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general. We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period. We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us. He doesn't burn up the world until the end of the Millennial reign. At the end of the Trib the Bible teaches that He ascends, the world sees Him, and He then destroys the armies with a word. He sets up a 1000 year kingdom and those who lived through the world populate the earth, which Jesus has returned to a perfected state. Lucifer and the fallen Angel's are locked up in hell, along with all those who followed them. Jesus rules from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. At the end of that time that generations have grown to hate Him as He rules perfectly, no sin allowed. Lucifer is released and the people revolt against Jesus. He then casts them all into hell and then God melts the world like wax and remakes it into a totally new planet. That is the end of the 7000 years of creation as taught in the Bible. That is what Revelation teaches. I believe we are taken out before God's wrath because Paul taught it and so did the early church fathers. Jesus taught it in the Upper Room discourse as well. I have to disagree. But I will say again, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian these days have no idea about eschatology and they will accept the Antichrist as messiah, IMO. You still didnt answer the question. Will God's children be here during Antichrist;s reign? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82460040 ![]() 03/14/2022 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God "But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36 . Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming. Guess what that means? Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming unless some will escape the things that are coming. That means some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth and to go stand with Jesus! That's what He said. Do you believe Him? I do. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82281965 ![]() 03/14/2022 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Just as the same day Noah ententes the ark it began to rain and just like fire failing on sodom the same exact day lot left, will the calling up be at the very end. Only the true children of God will be spared from the flood of fire that comes on the entire world |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82466218 ![]() 03/14/2022 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Either you beleive the lie or you dont Those who beleive in the lie will never convince those who dont that they are wrong. And those who know the truth will never convince those who dont know the truth that they have been tricked. Only God Himself can reveal it to you. And once he does you cannot unsee it as it becomes so obvious. So why bother fighting over something only God Himself can reveal? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82466727 ![]() 03/14/2022 03:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God "But take heed to yourselves, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82460040 lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man." Luke 21:34-36 . Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming. Guess what that means? Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming unless some will escape the things that are coming. That means some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth and to go stand with Jesus! That's what He said. Do you believe Him? I do. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81641376 ![]() 03/14/2022 03:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82457747 ![]() 03/14/2022 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God MATTHEW 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 , and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. |
St Tidbits the Odd User ID: 77547432 ![]() 03/14/2022 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Shh...don't tell them. They are all 501C3 nonces. Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82466940 ![]() 03/14/2022 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Stupid auto ban, had to delete first part of verse 30. in bold, it says After the tribulation, at the trumpet, Thet shall gather His Elect. What is this gathering of Elect, right before seeing the Son of Man coming in the clouds? MATTHEW 24 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82457747 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 -------------------------, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82457747 ![]() 03/14/2022 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God Stupid auto ban, had to delete first part of verse 30. in bold, it says After the tribulation, at the trumpet, Thet shall gather His Elect. What is this gathering of Elect, right before seeing the Son of Man coming in the clouds? MATTHEW 24 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82457747 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 -------------------------, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. |