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The Pre-Trib rapture doctrine is a very dangerous one.

Once the Antichrist is the world leader claiming to be God while performing miraculous miracles, pre trib rapture believers will assume he is God and will worship him and take the mark of the beast.

You know its the real Jesus when we are not in the flesh. Once Jesus arrives after the tribulation, our bodies will be transformed into something different. If we are here in the flesh and there is someone claiming to be Jesus/God, as long as we are in our flesh bodies, know it isnt Him.

If you worship the Antichrist thinking hes Jesus then that just means you never had the seal of God in your forehead which is something His elect has.

If you were to step out your house today and get hit by a car while believing in the pre trib rapture it doesnt mean you will go to hell because its not a salvation issue at this moment but it will be a salvation issue when it sets you up to worship the Antichrist as God.
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That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning.

Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house.

At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist.

Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general.
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That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning.

Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house.

At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist.

Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general.
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We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period.

We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us.
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I watch multiple pre Trib teachers. All of them warn against the vax. I assume these are talking about Franklin Graham and rhe few other mega preacher guys who preach pre Trib. They are sold out to the world.
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I believe the Rapture to be true.

You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it

but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better.

I don't think you do.

I believe Jesus Christ.

Not you.

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"But take heed to yourselves,

lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,

and that Day come on you unexpectedly.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch therefore,

and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,

and to stand before the Son of Man."



Luke 21:34-36

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I believe the Rapture to be true.

You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it

but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better.

I don't think you do.

I believe Jesus Christ.

Not you.

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Will Gods children be here during Antichrist's reign? Yes or no?
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"But take heed to yourselves,

lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,

and that Day come on you unexpectedly.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch therefore,

and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,

and to stand before the Son of Man."



Luke 21:34-36

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Everyone knows it will happen, but the debate is when?

before Antichrist's reign, or after?
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pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,





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I believe the Rapture to be true.

You have no understanding of what I believe or why I believe it

but for some reason feel the need to tell me that you know better.

I don't think you do.

I believe Jesus Christ.

Not you.

.
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Will Gods children be here during Antichrist's reign? Yes or no?
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It is said, endure to the end.
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That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning.

Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house.

At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist.

Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general.
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We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period.

We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us.
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He doesn't burn up the world until the end of the Millennial reign. At the end of the Trib the Bible teaches that He ascends, the world sees Him, and He then destroys the armies with a word. He sets up a 1000 year kingdom and those who lived through the world populate the earth, which Jesus has returned to a perfected state. Lucifer and the fallen Angel's are locked up in hell, along with all those who followed them.

Jesus rules from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. At the end of that time that generations have grown to hate Him as He rules perfectly, no sin allowed. Lucifer is released and the people revolt against Jesus. He then casts them all into hell and then God melts the world like wax and remakes it into a totally new planet.

That is the end of the 7000 years of creation as taught in the Bible. That is what Revelation teaches.

I believe we are taken out before God's wrath because Paul taught it and so did the early church fathers. Jesus taught it in the Upper Room discourse as well.

I have to disagree. But I will say again, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian these days have no idea about eschatology and they will accept the Antichrist as messiah, IMO.
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It is said, endure to the end.
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To who?

To the Church? To the Tribulation Saints? To the Remnant of Israel?

You don't know

although you think you do...
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pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,





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Jesus to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.


Guess what that means?


Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming
unless some will escape the things that are coming.

That means

some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth

and to go stand with Jesus!


That's what He said.

Do you believe Him?

I do.

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pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,





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Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.


Guess what that means?


Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming
unless some will escape the things that are coming.

That means

some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth

and to go stand with Jesus!


That's what He said.

Do you believe Him?

I do.

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That makes zero sense. As a person who has studied all of the eschatological views, I believe that pre Trib is by far the most probable view. Paul taught it, he taught the Body of Christ in the age of grace, and he taught that the restrainer must be removed before the man of lawlessness could be revealed. He also taught that the Body of Christ was not meant for God's wrath, and the entire seven year Trib is God's wrath, Jesus is opening seals at the beginning.

Your premise makes zero sense. Any person who believes that Jesus is coming back to snatch away the Body as Paul taught, if a man does come forward appearing to be antichrist, then a pre Trib believer would totally discount that man as Jesus, as we are taught that He takes us out of this world and to the Father's house.

At worst, a per Trib believe would know they had been wrong and that the Rapture is at the mid point of the Trib. They wouldnt flow the antichrist.

Actually it is the "best life now" Christian's, who follow Joel Olsteen and his ilk, who will believe that the AC is the second coming. They know nothing of eschatology in general.
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We will all be here during the plagues, one world govt tyrannical rule, and during the Antichrist's reign. He wont rapture us during this period.

We wont be here when Jesus burns up the whole earth to make way for the millennial kingdom. Thats when He raptures us.
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He doesn't burn up the world until the end of the Millennial reign. At the end of the Trib the Bible teaches that He ascends, the world sees Him, and He then destroys the armies with a word. He sets up a 1000 year kingdom and those who lived through the world populate the earth, which Jesus has returned to a perfected state. Lucifer and the fallen Angel's are locked up in hell, along with all those who followed them.

Jesus rules from Jerusalem for a 1000 years. At the end of that time that generations have grown to hate Him as He rules perfectly, no sin allowed. Lucifer is released and the people revolt against Jesus. He then casts them all into hell and then God melts the world like wax and remakes it into a totally new planet.

That is the end of the 7000 years of creation as taught in the Bible. That is what Revelation teaches.

I believe we are taken out before God's wrath because Paul taught it and so did the early church fathers. Jesus taught it in the Upper Room discourse as well.

I have to disagree. But I will say again, the vast majority of people who call themselves Christian these days have no idea about eschatology and they will accept the Antichrist as messiah, IMO.
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You still didnt answer the question.

Will God's children be here during Antichrist;s reign?
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"But take heed to yourselves,
lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore,
and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man."


Luke 21:34-36

.



Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.

Guess what that means?

Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming
unless some will escape the things that are coming.

That means

some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth

and to go stand with Jesus!


That's what He said.

Do you believe Him?

I do.

.
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Bro no one believes pre trib.

Just as the same day Noah ententes the ark it began to rain and just like fire failing on sodom the same exact day lot left, will the calling up be at the very end. Only the true children of God will be spared from the flood of fire that comes on the entire world
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Either you beleive the lie or you dont

Those who beleive in the lie will never convince those who dont that they are wrong.

And those who know the truth will never convince those who dont know the truth that they have been tricked.

Only God Himself can reveal it to you.

And once he does you cannot unsee it as it becomes so obvious.

So why bother fighting over something only God Himself can reveal?
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Joe nemo... spreading his diarrhea of the mouth as always
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"But take heed to yourselves,
lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.
For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Watch therefore,
and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man."


Luke 21:34-36

.



Jesus said to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming.

Guess what that means?

Jesus didn't tell us to pray to be counted worthy to escape the things that are coming
unless some will escape the things that are coming.

That means

some will be counted worthy to escape the things that are going to come upon the earth

and to go stand with Jesus!


That's what He said.

Do you believe Him?

I do.

.
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matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
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i cannot post verse 30 0r verse 31 it triggers a BAN


matthew 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
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31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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MATTHEW 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 , and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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Stupid auto ban, had to delete first part of verse 30.

in bold, it says After the tribulation, at the trumpet, Thet shall gather His Elect.

What is this gathering of Elect, right before seeing the Son of Man coming in the clouds?

MATTHEW 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 -------------------------, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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Stupid auto ban, had to delete first part of verse 30.

in bold, it says After the tribulation, at the trumpet, Thet shall gather His Elect.

What is this gathering of Elect, right before seeing the Son of Man coming in the clouds?

MATTHEW 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 -------------------------, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
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