Pre-Trib rapture doctrine misleads people into worshiping the Antichrist who will claim to be God

You teach that Jesus is just a man.

Did He die for you?

So that supposedly equates to a 'Pre-Trib rapture'????

Hogwash.

Why is Mary appearing at various places ALL over the world?

Could it be that these places would be 'protected areas' during the Tribulation?

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No one who teaches others that Jesus is a man can me saved.

Strange since its what the bible teach.

1 Thessalonians 4:16 - "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words"

2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. 8And then the lawless one will be revealed


Question: WHO restrains?







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SON OF God.
Look up my topics.

That's how Jesus comes to us...

Your version of "son of god" is no different than a man. Stop playing word games antichrist. There's God and men. No in between. Deal with it.

NO it isn't.

Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says. It's the SAME evevent - the Second Coming.

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1. No scripture states that Believers / "the Church" will miss Tribulation.

2. No scripture states that Jesus returns BEFORE "the day of the Lord".

3. No scripture states that Jesus returns MORE than once.

4. No scripture states that Jesus takes "the Church" to heaven for any period of time.

5. No scripture states that Tribulation only happens to the Hebrews.

Jesus clearly states that it will encompase the entire Earth.

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The pre-trib rapture is based on this passage by Paul.

1 Thessalonians 4

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

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Key phrases.

0. "we which are alive and remain"

Those are Believers - including Elect - that weren't killed prior to Jesus' return. Remain from what? The Tribulation.

1. "THE coming of the Lord". Jesus returns once. No scripture states otherwise.

2. "trump of God". This is the "last trump" that Paul speaks of in 1 Corinthians 15:52. For further reference, see the Seven Trumpets of Revelation.

3. "caught up together". This is the First Resurrection mentioned in Revelation.

4. "in the clouds". Jesus used the SAME phrase describing His Return.

5. "alive and remain" also matches the words "endureth to the end" (Matthew 10:22) "endure unto the end" (Mark 13:13) and "overcometh" (Revelation 2:26)

6. Jesus returns "after the Tribulation".

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

7. Tribulation is not wrath. Scripture proves this.

WUUUUT????

I noticed youre roman catholic.

You dont divide the word of God correctly. For example, you teach false replacement theology. The church has NOT replaced the j..s. Heard of JACOBS TROUBLE, when the j..s will come back into covenant with God?

Thats right, the bible is written primarily from a J..ISH perspective. Romans 11 and Ezekiel 36 is a good start! To see proof God has not rejected the j..s all you need is a plane ticket to Jerusalem, where Jesus will reign from, among the people that first rejected him 2000 years ago!

I also updated my thread because i wrote a bit fast first time. Read it again.

Are you just stupid or deliberately being an azzwipe?

Son Of God - SENT BY the Father.

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Your version of "son of god" is no different than a man.. a created being. Not God.

You're a liar.

Absolutely not. False signs and wonders are part of the endtime deception. The pope is a false prophet. You need to stop listening to that clergy, just read the bible yourself.

I've said it in this thread before, I will say it again.

Rapture theory is a pacification attempt that plays on the fears of lazy Christians. It's literally note-for-note the EXACT SAME PSYOP as Qanon. Mental gymnastics to convince people that the "white hats" will save us before it's too late, and that you won't have to do anything at all except to sit back and enjoy the show.

Interesting that both are targeted at the same demographic.

I do NOT belong to the RCC - nor ANY denomination.

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You Pauline folks like to use that 'rightly dividing' phrase but you yourselves are just as guilty as the Catholics.

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ahhh.. so you have a problem with LAZY CHRISTIANS, because REAL HARDCORE CHRISTIANS are saved by hard work! The harder you work, the more saved you are!

What you just said proves to me your not a christian. John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10, Romans 11:6 and Ephesians 2:8-9, can you read it?

ahh... now i remember you, its you that denied the divinity of Christ. I busted you and thought you had gone away, but youre back again with some new nonsense.

Youre a waste of time.

Yeah he's evil

I really don't care one way or another what you think of me or my faith. I simply pointed out the painfully obvious. You were the one who felt threatened by it.

What is a Christian?

A person who lives in a state of constant fear.

His only concern is himself; and "getting to heaven"; that is the CONTINUATION OF HIS PATHETIC EARTHLY EXISTENCE IN ANOTHER REALM.

I DOUBT THAT "OTHER REALM" WILL BE ANY BETTER IF ITS CITIZENRY ARE TERRIFIED SYCOPHANTS AND OTHER ASSOCIATED TOADS.

Does anyone tell Father God what to say and do?

Nope. Yet the Father TOLD Jesus what to say and do.

John 12:49-50 & Revelation 1:1

49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


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Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple therein:

for the Lord God Almighty <<<< Father God

and the Lamb <<<< Jesus

sorry i dont see how this pose a problem regarding the pretrib rapture. Those that will have to go trough the tribulation are the j..s, aka Jacobs trouble.

Divide the word of God correctly.

Well you teach falsely. There is no shame in saying i have not deserved salvation in any way, and neither do i deserve the rapture. Its still what the bible teach, and if you think you deserve salvation, you prove by your own words youre not a christian, since everything regarding our standing with God rests fully on Gods grace. And God wants us to rest in that.

Hey look folks, we have the Lord almighty right here at GLP! Ready to condemn and destroy anyone who doesn't follow their specific, manufactured beliefs to the letter.

And you call me a bad Christian? Somehow I am just not offended - it's people like you, twisting words and demanding control of others that kept me away from faith nearly my whole life. Thankfully it's people who aren't like you that helped me find it again.

Ephesians 2:6
And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,

Hebrews 12:22
But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,

Christians are already in Heaven.

And where are the christians that are dead now? Do they have their physical bodies, and last i checked, im in Norway?

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There is much talk that the Rapture will happen this month.