As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. | |
936432979 User ID: 76832232 United States 03/16/2022 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. The changeover to DST was a few years ago moved to few weeks later in fall, and earlier in spring, and that caused some automated clocks to change over too soon, too late. But other than that we survived |
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TOTAL1TY (OP) User ID: 80379140 United States 03/16/2022 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. The changeover to DST was a few years ago moved to few weeks later in fall, and earlier in spring, and that caused some automated clocks to change over too soon, too late. But other than that we survived Quoting: 936432979 Yes I remember that, it did cause problems. And now there are probably 10x more devices. I foresee even more issues. |
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Boiling Frog User ID: 80065960 United States 03/16/2022 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. Now we are letting this corrupt fucking government tell us what time it is. LET'S GO BRANDON!!! Ego imperium repraesentabo nope nos repraesentat! My location says Canada sometimes, even though I'm in America. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17429141 United States 03/16/2022 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. I was just thinking about how often time is used in computers. Entire servers are setup just to provide time. Quoting: TOTAL1TY And now they want to change something that has been programmed into computers and chipsets and Operating systems, for DECADES. I think this is a bad idea and shouldn't be changed without studying the impact. So many Operating systems could be impacted. Something that is usually automated and synchronized might now require manual work to fix. Could this crash scripts, systems, chipsets? The logic is pre-programmed. If it's X day of the year, add 1 hour, otherwise don't. Has anyone even Considered the possible consequences to computers and networks? Somehow I doubt it. only windows user will suffer, linux is forever can exist outside of time even, no one needs to program it evolves itself |
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IAMTHATGUY User ID: 79280147 United States 03/16/2022 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. I was just thinking about how often time is used in computers. Entire servers are setup just to provide time. Quoting: TOTAL1TY And now they want to change something that has been programmed into computers and chipsets and Operating systems, for DECADES. I think this is a bad idea and shouldn't be changed without studying the impact. So many Operating systems could be impacted. Something that is usually automated and synchronized might now require manual work to fix. Could this crash scripts, systems, chipsets? The logic is pre-programmed. If it's X day of the year, add 1 hour, otherwise don't. Has anyone even Considered the possible consequences to computers and networks? Somehow I doubt it. Wouldn't be surprised if it caused some trouble. Y2K Was NOT the nothingburger some people say. There was tremendous danger. In the mid 90s, I had a military colleague who worked on computer systems (satellites, etc), and there were TONS of systems that failed testing and had to be replaced. They kept that VERY quiet. The same thing was happening in the private sector too. What Y2K was responsible for was the biggest upgrade in computer systems ever. A lot of Bill Clinton's economic success was because of the huge spending on computer systems in the mid to late 90s. It was real, but for some reason, the narrative was "hey, nothing happened!" Yea, nothing happened because HUGE numbers of computers with upgraded chips were bought. The DST thing, though? Hard to say. "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74956309 Japan 03/16/2022 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. Hahaha! Cant believe people like you run networks. Then again, there are many small organizations that have IT staff that call themselves “Network Admin’s”. You are straight up stupid. Thats coming from a real Network Admin. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80768108 United States 03/16/2022 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. Timezones are just an addition or subtraction and updating the rulesets is not a big deal. Only if you have severely old and unsupported solutions education use non standard components would this be an issue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80982042 United States 03/16/2022 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. I was just thinking about how often time is used in computers. Entire servers are setup just to provide time. Quoting: TOTAL1TY And now they want to change something that has been programmed into computers and chipsets and Operating systems, for DECADES. I think this is a bad idea and shouldn't be changed without studying the impact. So many Operating systems could be impacted. Something that is usually automated and synchronized might now require manual work to fix. Could this crash scripts, systems, chipsets? The logic is pre-programmed. If it's X day of the year, add 1 hour, otherwise don't. Has anyone even Considered the possible consequences to computers and networks? Somehow I doubt it. dam, wow. this will be way worse than Y2K. Just AD alone, if clocks are off, there goes your DC's and Exchange. managing all this in 1 year or 2 is not long enough, no way. it should be a decade minimum. |
Lowkey Cyberpunk User ID: 77651099 United States 03/16/2022 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. From the NIST website: The rules for DST changed in 2007 for the first time in more than 20 years. [link to www.nist.gov (secure)] As you can see, the date that DST starts and ends on has changed every once in a while by politicians whimsy. It's a well understood problem. You might have a few embedded devices that this causes problems for, maybe even a security issue but I can't see this being a major concern. "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78540439 United States 03/16/2022 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. ah the plan is to stop changing time back and forward every year and just leave it at daylight savings which is what it is set to now. So explain to me how this can be a problem. No more changing of the clocks means just that. Computers will no longer have to change the time forward and back and that means less intrusion on the operation of the machine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73112757 most clocks and phones are programmed to change to DST automatically. So now you have to manually reset those devices. potentially could break OTP and MFA logins that depend on accurate time. IOW, you get locked out of your accounts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78540439 United States 03/16/2022 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. From the NIST website: Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk The rules for DST changed in 2007 for the first time in more than 20 years. [link to www.nist.gov (secure)] As you can see, the date that DST starts and ends on has changed every once in a while by politicians whimsy. It's a well understood problem. You might have a few embedded devices that this causes problems for, maybe even a security issue but I can't see this being a major concern. in 2007, OTP and MFA were not in wide use. I wrote a crypto currency in 2018. as a security check, we require an ethereum-signed message with a timestamp of + or - one minute of server time. bing, your payment system quits working due to time mismatch between systems. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80268211 United States 03/16/2022 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. ah the plan is to stop changing time back and forward every year and just leave it at daylight savings which is what it is set to now. So explain to me how this can be a problem. No more changing of the clocks means just that. Computers will no longer have to change the time forward and back and that means less intrusion on the operation of the machine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73112757 most clocks and phones are programmed to change to DST automatically. So now you have to manually reset those devices. potentially could break OTP and MFA logins that depend on accurate time. IOW, you get locked out of your accounts. there's literally options to turn automatic DST off, it's not a big deal whatsoever |
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Lowkey Cyberpunk User ID: 77651099 United States 03/16/2022 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: As a computer programmer and IT admin, ending Daylight Savings Time DST, could be worse than Y2K. From the NIST website: Quoting: Lowkey Cyberpunk The rules for DST changed in 2007 for the first time in more than 20 years. [link to www.nist.gov (secure)] As you can see, the date that DST starts and ends on has changed every once in a while by politicians whimsy. It's a well understood problem. You might have a few embedded devices that this causes problems for, maybe even a security issue but I can't see this being a major concern. in 2007, OTP and MFA were not in wide use. I wrote a crypto currency in 2018. as a security check, we require an ethereum-signed message with a timestamp of + or - one minute of server time. bing, your payment system quits working due to time mismatch between systems. . NTP doesn't even send DST information. As long as your devices are updating date and time from a server, OTP and MFA would continue just fine. "Yes, yes. Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death. But, at least there is symmetry." |
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