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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As outlandish as it sounds, a few believe that ETs are working their own disclosure process.* With the sightings becoming more frequent and the events like to 2 F-15's with so much information not being given out.This seems to be the case.The Aliens are trying to let us know they are here without causing mass hysteria or an all out attack on themselves.I think the truth is going to be known very soon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As outlandish as it sounds, a few believe that ETs are working their own disclosure process.* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620With the sightings becoming more frequent and the events like to 2 F-15's with so much information not being given out.This seems to be the case.The Aliens are trying to let us know they are here without causing mass hysteria or an all out attack on themselves.I think the truth is going to be known very soon. Its not outlandish at all, and most DO think the aliens are working thier own disclosure process from the "beginning" "UFO's and Aliens are from other galaxies", thats the 1st part of the disclosure process that they are forcing on the world. |
Sonja User ID: 378015 United States 02/21/2008 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As outlandish as it sounds, a few believe that ETs are working their own disclosure process.* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647With the sightings becoming more frequent and the events like to 2 F-15's with so much information not being given out.This seems to be the case.The Aliens are trying to let us know they are here without causing mass hysteria or an all out attack on themselves.I think the truth is going to be known very soon. Its not outlandish at all, and most DO think the aliens are working thier own disclosure process from the "beginning" "UFO's and Aliens are from other galaxies", thats the 1st part of the disclosure process that they are forcing on the world. You know,I just cant help but wonder why the USA governement wants to keep it covered up.The stories in Stephensville,texas about military jets chasing the ufo's.Other past threads regarding the USA issuing shoot to kill orders on UFOs that dont land.The Government knows something that they very badly want to keep us from finding out.Could it be so bad that it would actually cause mass suicides? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Sonja 378015I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... they're heeere! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Sonja 378015I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made |
mj-13 User ID: 378005 United States 02/21/2008 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. I think you have a relevant point about disclosure. Yes I do believe the world has a right to know and if I'm not mistaking, there are other gov.'s that have already started the process. I believe Belgium to be one of the few. As far as "conditioning", I believe that process has been going on for a vast number of years and the time has long been over due. As far as content and dissemination of said info, I believe that TPTB should also use careful discretion. Too much information is not something I would recommend and would undermine the conditioning that I think is necessary for most. Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. I think you have a relevant point about disclosure. Yes I do believe the world has a right to know and if I'm not mistaking, there are other gov.'s that have already started the process. I believe Belgium to be one of the few. As far as "conditioning", I believe that process has been going on for a vast number of years and the time has long been over due. As far as content and dissemination of said info, I believe that TPTB should also use careful discretion. Too much information is not something I would recommend and would undermine the conditioning that I think is necessary for most. Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Quoting: mj-13Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Exactly! Theologies like, "UFO's and aliens are from other galaxies" The majority of the world is non religious, with a few devotees here and there. LOL! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. I think you have a relevant point about disclosure. Yes I do believe the world has a right to know and if I'm not mistaking, there are other gov.'s that have already started the process. I believe Belgium to be one of the few. As far as "conditioning", I believe that process has been going on for a vast number of years and the time has long been over due. As far as content and dissemination of said info, I believe that TPTB should also use careful discretion. Too much information is not something I would recommend and would undermine the conditioning that I think is necessary for most. Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Exactly! Theologies like, "UFO's and aliens are from other galaxies" The majority of the world is non religious, with a few devotees here and there. LOL! actually the majority of the world is Muslim and Catholic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. Are you taking gasoline bong rips again?!?!?! In the center of the world?!?!?! Subterranean lairs?!?!? Jeez, i mean tell us you turned on the "sarcasm" button OK?!?!? So your saying they are from this world and they reside in the center of the earth, huh. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. Are you taking gasoline bong rips again?!?!?! In the center of the world?!?!?! Subterranean lairs?!?!? Jeez, i mean tell us you turned on the "sarcasm" button OK?!?!? So your saying they are from this world and they reside in the center of the earth, huh. so you have never heard of the underground bases such as Dulce? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. I think you have a relevant point about disclosure. Yes I do believe the world has a right to know and if I'm not mistaking, there are other gov.'s that have already started the process. I believe Belgium to be one of the few. As far as "conditioning", I believe that process has been going on for a vast number of years and the time has long been over due. As far as content and dissemination of said info, I believe that TPTB should also use careful discretion. Too much information is not something I would recommend and would undermine the conditioning that I think is necessary for most. Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Exactly! Theologies like, "UFO's and aliens are from other galaxies" The majority of the world is non religious, with a few devotees here and there. LOL! actually the majority of the world is Muslim and Catholic. LOL!!! YEAH RIGHT!! THE majority of the world is non religious, please spare me when you say that catholics are god fearing, jesus freaks who are out preaching the "gospel" Yeah, tell that to Vinny down at "bada bings" strip club! Christianity about 31% Islam 18% 49% The rest is basically just wishy washy voo doo crap and a bunch of non religious folks running around |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. Are you taking gasoline bong rips again?!?!?! In the center of the world?!?!?! Subterranean lairs?!?!? Jeez, i mean tell us you turned on the "sarcasm" button OK?!?!? So your saying they are from this world and they reside in the center of the earth, huh. so you have never heard of the underground bases such as Dulce? DUlce, yeah so youve been there and seen the base that goes to the center of the earth? Tell me you brought a camera! Also, is that where the man made little greys chill out when they are not flying around in the atmosphere?? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good post. I think you have a relevant point about disclosure. Yes I do believe the world has a right to know and if I'm not mistaking, there are other gov.'s that have already started the process. I believe Belgium to be one of the few. As far as "conditioning", I believe that process has been going on for a vast number of years and the time has long been over due. As far as content and dissemination of said info, I believe that TPTB should also use careful discretion. Too much information is not something I would recommend and would undermine the conditioning that I think is necessary for most. Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647Remember, we have a large global population that is highly vested in theologies that not only don't acknowledge this but just by implication, could undermine theology as we know it. Exactly! Theologies like, "UFO's and aliens are from other galaxies" The majority of the world is non religious, with a few devotees here and there. LOL! actually the majority of the world is Muslim and Catholic. LOL!!! YEAH RIGHT!! THE majority of the world is non religious, please spare me when you say that catholics are god fearing, jesus freaks who are out preaching the "gospel" Yeah, tell that to Vinny down at "bada bings" strip club! Christianity about 31% Islam 18% 49% The rest is basically just wishy washy voo doo crap and a bunch of non religious folks running around Im sorry, you must have misinterpreted the meaning of this thread.This is a UFO Disclosure thread where people who share these ideas and wish to discuss them can do so.You are looking for the troll thread,and I think thats down 3 on the list.Have a nice day.:) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 270620 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. Are you taking gasoline bong rips again?!?!?! In the center of the world?!?!?! Subterranean lairs?!?!? Jeez, i mean tell us you turned on the "sarcasm" button OK?!?!? So your saying they are from this world and they reside in the center of the earth, huh. so you have never heard of the underground bases such as Dulce? DUlce, yeah so youve been there and seen the base that goes to the center of the earth? Tell me you brought a camera! Also, is that where the man made little greys chill out when they are not flying around in the atmosphere?? If you dont want to believe the stories and reports and cover ups thats your right.But can you prove Dulce isnt there? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course...the government ALREADY uses TV's ....TO WATCH US!!..especially the ones of us who watch THEM! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620I realise that many are skeptic and disbelieving...so I will pose this simple experiment to you... Have you ever noticed that our television sets appear to be turned on when they are actually off?.. Just point your digital camera toweards the turned off screen...hold it there 30-60 seconds..and vegin to shoot your photos...it is unreal what we see here.. And if you are truly adventurous, leave your set on a 'white noise' channel..then shoot pics of it...you can also see 'things' running through the lens just by positioning it..the color blue seems to center itself into the white noise prior to the forms taking shape.. Just for the skeptics...try it... I gonna leave the TV stuff alone....... but heres a simple question for you to ponder Why is it that UFOs seem to have developed or advanced from a more primitive UFO to todays more advanced, new versions??? What, are the aliens trading in there old, used, outdated UFO's for more slicker models at the dealership on Saturn?? Great deals right now! Hurry! They are man made maybe they are just using stronger materials found in the earths center to build their ships in a subterranean lair.If they have been in use for so many years then they need repair.And if they have the technology then maybe the government wants it so bad they are willing to sacrifice abductee's to get it. Are you taking gasoline bong rips again?!?!?! In the center of the world?!?!?! Subterranean lairs?!?!? Jeez, i mean tell us you turned on the "sarcasm" button OK?!?!? So your saying they are from this world and they reside in the center of the earth, huh. so you have never heard of the underground bases such as Dulce? DUlce, yeah so youve been there and seen the base that goes to the center of the earth? Tell me you brought a camera! Also, is that where the man made little greys chill out when they are not flying around in the atmosphere?? If you dont want to believe the stories and reports and cover ups thats your right.But can you prove Dulce isnt there? I never said it wasnt there! it IS there! WOW. Just wow! Now, true believers say that Area 51 is definitely hiding something because if you go there, they won't let you in and they won't tell you what they have there. You know why that is? Because it's a fuckin' military installation, alright?! What, do you think that if you go to Areas 1 through 50 you're gonna get a Chardonnay and some gouda? No you're not! You're gonna get turned away faster than Roger Clinton tryin' to get backstage at a Marilyn Manson concert! Dennis Miller |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 378059 United States 02/21/2008 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Government knows something that they very badly want to keep us from finding out. Could it be so bad that it would actually cause mass suicides? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 270620Many military and former military people know what is really going on and they don't talk. I have been personally close to two individuals, one a former Naval Commander, one a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. Both had knowledge of UFOs and neither would discuss what they knew. The military people who have come forward in recent years have been in low-level positions with limited knowledge. All the NWO conspiracy theories (which I happen to believe) aside, there's something more going on. The new agey, butterflies & bullshit, we should all love each other and just get along, ETs are our friends crowd have always given me the creeps at a very deep gut level. I think that some ETs are here to help us but there others who are a nightmare danger to humanity. The people keeping the secrets aren't all motivated by greed or cowardice. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Government knows something that they very badly want to keep us from finding out. Could it be so bad that it would actually cause mass suicides? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 378059Many military and former military people know what is really going on and they don't talk. I have been personally close to two individuals, one a former Naval Commander, one a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel. Both had knowledge of UFOs and neither would discuss what they knew. The military people who have come forward in recent years have been in low-level positions with limited knowledge. All the NWO conspiracy theories (which I happen to believe) aside, there's something more going on. The new agey, butterflies & bullshit, we should all love each other and just get along, ETs are our friends crowd have always given me the creeps at a very deep gut level. I think that some ETs are here to help us but there others who are a nightmare danger to humanity. The people keeping the secrets aren't all motivated by greed or cowardice. . ETs are our friends crowd have always given me the creeps at a very deep gut level. I think its because they are their own worse enemy! Usually people who are diluted are very strange on a gut level as you say, but they "feel" that they are the ones with the answers! All of their answers are just "sci fi channel" crap. No real data, just BS theyve bought into from watching star trek too much. They talk of conspiricies and cover ups but dont realize that they are the ones being duped! UFO's are man made, and they occupants are REAL evil! |
some bloke in enlgand User ID: 378072 United Kingdom 02/21/2008 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As outlandish as it sounds, a few believe that ETs are working their own disclosure process.* Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238647With the sightings becoming more frequent and the events like to 2 F-15's with so much information not being given out.This seems to be the case.The Aliens are trying to let us know they are here without causing mass hysteria or an all out attack on themselves.I think the truth is going to be known very soon. Its not outlandish at all, and most DO think the aliens are working thier own disclosure process from the "beginning" "UFO's and Aliens are from other galaxies", thats the 1st part of the disclosure process that they are forcing on the world. The over-riding main argument I get from skeptics is that it is impossible to travel faster than light, or anywhere near the speed of light, making it impossible for ETs to come here. The 2nd argument is that, if ETs were here, they'd show themselves & that our leaders would declare that they're here. Basically the general public put their total trust in our government, scientists, mass media outlets, religious & other authorities without question! They may moan & take to the streets regarding domestic & economic issues, skeptical at certain politicians, but generally the 'sheeple' will NOT question or try to contradict what the authorities have told them to believe. If the authorities say.. that faster than light travel is impossible.. then 'everyone' believes it, without question, & will punish anyone who doesn't agree. This is the main reason why people refuse to accept the possibility of an ET presence. This is all down to just one scientist, Albert Einstein, with other physicists in agreement, why people stick to this absolute belief. The government along with the media back this up, so 'faster than light' travel is simply not up for any form of any discussion whatsoever! Anyone who challenges this, is treated like a heretic, insane or out to cause trouble. This argument will have to change, that the authorities will simply have to admit that 'faster than light' travel is possible, without necessarily having to prove it via some scientific experiment. One the public are contented in accepting 'faster than light' physics.. we're half way there to disclosure. The second most important thing is why haven't ETs simply landed. For some reason, the general populace, looking up to their leaders/TV media personalities like loyal sheep dogs, simply do not, & will not, question what they're told to believe. As far as the public is concerned anyone who works in Television is intellectual, educated, clever & well connected.. who must 'know!' what they're talking about. There's the wealthy management who 'run' TV, the technical whizzos who make it all happen, the producers who make the programs, & of course the smartly dressed eye candy who present the facts & figures in front of camera. The public mind is such that, 'these people are clever, smart, who must know what they're talking about, so I won't ever ever ever, question them or their motives. They work in TV, right..! Our view of the world is via the carefully manipulated & controlled media, who can just repeat their beliefs over & over & over till what they want us to believe simply sinks in. They can lie, mis-lead, ridicule stories to suit. What I'm saying is, is that most people are kept in the dark, in ignorance on what's going on in the world. There's more than enough news stories, to have new 'Headlines' & 'Breaking News' every minute of the day, yet the same stuff is repeated for hours & hours, even for days on end. I am old enough, have seen enough, to know that we live in a very evil world, with daily massacres, tortures, rapes, murders, intimidation, violence, threats & horror.. happening every single second, every minute, every hour of every day, with no end, in most parts of the world, at any one time. Yet, very little of this is shown to the public, or when it is, it's diluted to clean up the story for public consumption. Only the odd 'approved' investigative journalist is maybe allowed to go deeper into a controversial story. The UK, US & other major media outlets are very controlled in their news gathering & program making. I once had this argument with both BBC & ITN editing staff about censorship, & I was quite shocked at their response. I argued that I didn't like censorship, that everything should be shown, like they show everything on EuroNews, Al Jazeera or France24.. show the people what life is 'really like' out there. They said.. that graphic & deeper news stories are not in the public interest, & may cause alarm! So, that's it! We're treated like idiots, expected to get addicted to TV soaps, mind numbingly stupid reality shows, game shows, celebrity news, anything but the truth of what's happening in the world. On mainstream TV, there are rarely any decent scientific or real investigative journalism on deeper issues. The other argument is that children are alarmed at graphic images & controversial news items. I'm not suggesting that graphic scenes should be shown on Blue Peter or John's Cravens Newsround, but the kids are not 'that' stupid.. that they cannot handle the truth. They need to know the truth, so that they know what sort of world they're growing up in, but instead the kids are being misled into a false sense of security.. thinking the world is a great place & peaceful when it is clearly not the case. Kids have a right to know! Anyway.. this brings me to my 2nd point of why ETs don't simply land. The ETs have FULL ACCESS to ALL the worlds problems via our media of course, in particular TV, but also their own methods of news gathering via electronic means & of course 'telepathy.' They know all! The ETs know most of the world is evil & screwed up, so they 'know' why they can't land. They'd be shot at, made fun off, chased away, imprisoned, experimented on, over-powered, lied to, ripped off, so as a precaution.. they will not open up contact. They know that the world's population are ill-informed of the horror happening in our world. The ETs cannot be expected to just play 'ball' as influential figures go 'pssst' in their ear.. saying 'oh ermm.. don't mention that you know about such n such.. & we want you to say this.. or be quiet about this or that..' As far as the ETs are concerned, they must be treading on egg shells when it comes to dealing with 'earth humans.' When an ET met President Truman in the autumn of 1947 asking for 'surrender..' Truman over-reacted.. immediately thinking in terms of military terms. I don't think that's what the ET meant when he asked for 'surrender..' it was meant in a spiritual manner.. basically saying.. 'look! we can see what's going on, you can't pull the wool over our eyes, so play ALL your cards on the table.. & be open & honest with the public & ETs...' For open contact there would have to be a very radical change in our perception of the multi-verse, & a real effort to try & show honesty, good will, truth, & good manners..! As one spoken line says in the Pink Floyd album.. Dark Side Of The Moon.. "Good manners don't cost nothing do they..' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | *As outlandish as it sounds, a few believe that ETs are working their own disclosure process.* Quoting: some bloke in enlgand 378072With the sightings becoming more frequent and the events like to 2 F-15's with so much information not being given out.This seems to be the case.The Aliens are trying to let us know they are here without causing mass hysteria or an all out attack on themselves.I think the truth is going to be known very soon. Its not outlandish at all, and most DO think the aliens are working thier own disclosure process from the "beginning" "UFO's and Aliens are from other galaxies", thats the 1st part of the disclosure process that they are forcing on the world. The over-riding main argument I get from skeptics is that it is impossible to travel faster than light, or anywhere near the speed of light, making it impossible for ETs to come here. The 2nd argument is that, if ETs were here, they'd show themselves & that our leaders would declare that they're here. Basically the general public put their total trust in our government, scientists, mass media outlets, religious & other authorities without question! They may moan & take to the streets regarding domestic & economic issues, skeptical at certain politicians, but generally the 'sheeple' will NOT question or try to contradict what the authorities have told them to believe. If the authorities say.. that faster than light travel is impossible.. then 'everyone' believes it, without question, & will punish anyone who doesn't agree. This is the main reason why people refuse to accept the possibility of an ET presence. This is all down to just one scientist, Albert Einstein, with other physicists in agreement, why people stick to this absolute belief. The government along with the media back this up, so 'faster than light' travel is simply not up for any form of any discussion whatsoever! Anyone who challenges this, is treated like a heretic, insane or out to cause trouble. This argument will have to change, that the authorities will simply have to admit that 'faster than light' travel is possible, without necessarily having to prove it via some scientific experiment. One the public are contented in accepting 'faster than light' physics.. we're half way there to disclosure. The second most important thing is why haven't ETs simply landed. For some reason, the general populace, looking up to their leaders/TV media personalities like loyal sheep dogs, simply do not, & will not, question what they're told to believe. As far as the public is concerned anyone who works in Television is intellectual, educated, clever & well connected.. who must 'know!' what they're talking about. There's the wealthy management who 'run' TV, the technical whizzos who make it all happen, the producers who make the programs, & of course the smartly dressed eye candy who present the facts & figures in front of camera. The public mind is such that, 'these people are clever, smart, who must know what they're talking about, so I won't ever ever ever, question them or their motives. They work in TV, right..! Our view of the world is via the carefully manipulated & controlled media, who can just repeat their beliefs over & over & over till what they want us to believe simply sinks in. They can lie, mis-lead, ridicule stories to suit. What I'm saying is, is that most people are kept in the dark, in ignorance on what's going on in the world. There's more than enough news stories, to have new 'Headlines' & 'Breaking News' every minute of the day, yet the same stuff is repeated for hours & hours, even for days on end. I am old enough, have seen enough, to know that we live in a very evil world, with daily massacres, tortures, rapes, murders, intimidation, violence, threats & horror.. happening every single second, every minute, every hour of every day, with no end, in most parts of the world, at any one time. Yet, very little of this is shown to the public, or when it is, it's diluted to clean up the story for public consumption. Only the odd 'approved' investigative journalist is maybe allowed to go deeper into a controversial story. The UK, US & other major media outlets are very controlled in their news gathering & program making. I once had this argument with both BBC & ITN editing staff about censorship, & I was quite shocked at their response. I argued that I didn't like censorship, that everything should be shown, like they show everything on EuroNews, Al Jazeera or France24.. show the people what life is 'really like' out there. They said.. that graphic & deeper news stories are not in the public interest, & may cause alarm! So, that's it! We're treated like idiots, expected to get addicted to TV soaps, mind numbingly stupid reality shows, game shows, celebrity news, anything but the truth of what's happening in the world. On mainstream TV, there are rarely any decent scientific or real investigative journalism on deeper issues. The other argument is that children are alarmed at graphic images & controversial news items. I'm not suggesting that graphic scenes should be shown on Blue Peter or John's Cravens Newsround, but the kids are not 'that' stupid.. that they cannot handle the truth. They need to know the truth, so that they know what sort of world they're growing up in, but instead the kids are being misled into a false sense of security.. thinking the world is a great place & peaceful when it is clearly not the case. Kids have a right to know! Anyway.. this brings me to my 2nd point of why ETs don't simply land. The ETs have FULL ACCESS to ALL the worlds problems via our media of course, in particular TV, but also their own methods of news gathering via electronic means & of course 'telepathy.' They know all! The ETs know most of the world is evil & screwed up, so they 'know' why they can't land. They'd be shot at, made fun off, chased away, imprisoned, experimented on, over-powered, lied to, ripped off, so as a precaution.. they will not open up contact. They know that the world's population are ill-informed of the horror happening in our world. The ETs cannot be expected to just play 'ball' as influential figures go 'pssst' in their ear.. saying 'oh ermm.. don't mention that you know about such n such.. & we want you to say this.. or be quiet about this or that..' As far as the ETs are concerned, they must be treading on egg shells when it comes to dealing with 'earth humans.' When an ET met President Truman in the autumn of 1947 asking for 'surrender..' Truman over-reacted.. immediately thinking in terms of military terms. I don't think that's what the ET meant when he asked for 'surrender..' it was meant in a spiritual manner.. basically saying.. 'look! we can see what's going on, you can't pull the wool over our eyes, so play ALL your cards on the table.. & be open & honest with the public & ETs...' For open contact there would have to be a very radical change in our perception of the multi-verse, & a real effort to try & show honesty, good will, truth, & good manners..! As one spoken line says in the Pink Floyd album.. Dark Side Of The Moon.. "Good manners don't cost nothing do they..' WOW! Great excuses! Unfortunately thats all your paragraph was, just a bunch of excuses. Good try though! This is the typical response of most of the sci fi channel sheep. Cant deal with reality so they try to make up an alternate reality to exist in WITH their little grey freinds! NO hard data, no facts , no real info, just total BS. I notice the whole post was your opinion on the matter, and that it was made up of crazy talk like Pres Truman meeting aliens and apparently you even know what was said at this meeting. LOL! This is what alot of posters notice about the ET crowd who desperatly try to cling to this ludicrous sci fi channel beief that they are from other galaxies. You even try to dicredit Einstein! Jeez! You have nada, zip, zilch, nothing...... Give us something thats got a little substance in it, and not the "ETs are real, and i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night" line !! |
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some bloke in england User ID: 378117 United Kingdom 02/21/2008 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW! Great excuses! Unfortunately thats all your paragraph was, just a bunch of excuses. Good try though! This is the typical response of most of the sci fi channel sheep. Cant deal with reality so they try to make up an alternate reality to exist in WITH their little grey freinds! NO hard data, no facts , no real info, just total BS. I notice the whole post was your opinion on the matter, and that it was made up of crazy talk like Pres Truman meeting aliens and apparently you even know what was said at this meeting. LOL! This is what alot of posters notice about the ET crowd who desperatly try to cling to this ludicrous sci fi channel beief that they are from other galaxies. You even try to dicredit Einstein! Jeez! You have nada, zip, zilch, nothing...... Give us something thats got a little substance in it, and not the "ETs are real, and i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night" line !! Well.. at least you read all of my 'excuses'. Just to correct you on some points though.. I don't have the sci-fi channel.. as I don't pay for any satellite or cable services, I just have freeview & freesat. I don't have any grey friends.. or whatever colour they are. I don't honestly know if they're friendly or not, I dunno.. The Pres Truman thing.. well.. I admit I was quoting this from 'Dark Skies..' where in episode 2.. Truman is supposed to have met with a greyish alien in the desert, who demanded Truman of his unconditional surrender. It was only a science fiction program after all.. could be true, but, probably not! Who knows what happened, if anything.. at all.. I'm not trying to dis-credit Einstein, he was obviously a very clever bloke.. a Genius!! but I'm simply saying that people should be allowed to question someone like Albert Einstein.. after all..! he could have been wrong.. or not got it all correct. Even a great thinker.. should be doubted.. as it's the only way to move on to the eventual truth.. I honestly don't know if ETs are here, but I have had sightings of a flying saucer, an orange fireball, a black triangle with purple lights, & 2 bright white egg shaped objects flying at high speed. I 'know..!' there's sommat flying about up there.. cos I seen them. When I saw the flying saucer outside my window.. I could swear I had some sort of 'mind' communication with whatever/whoever was controlling the airborne vehicle. I was 'called' to the window, then I saw the flying saucer. I've no idea if 'they' come from other worlds or galaxies or dimensions.. or if they're friendly or not. But, it was quite an experience!! Aye.. you're right.. I know nowt.. but know enough to know there's sommat going on, & that I'd like to know.. & I'd like to see folk more open-minded that's all. I'm tired of skeptics winning 'every' argument & ridiculing everything! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW! Great excuses! Quoting: some bloke in england 378117Unfortunately thats all your paragraph was, just a bunch of excuses. Good try though! This is the typical response of most of the sci fi channel sheep. Cant deal with reality so they try to make up an alternate reality to exist in WITH their little grey freinds! NO hard data, no facts , no real info, just total BS. I notice the whole post was your opinion on the matter, and that it was made up of crazy talk like Pres Truman meeting aliens and apparently you even know what was said at this meeting. LOL! This is what alot of posters notice about the ET crowd who desperatly try to cling to this ludicrous sci fi channel beief that they are from other galaxies. You even try to dicredit Einstein! Jeez! You have nada, zip, zilch, nothing...... Give us something thats got a little substance in it, and not the "ETs are real, and i stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night" line !! Well.. at least you read all of my 'excuses'. Just to correct you on some points though.. I don't have the sci-fi channel.. as I don't pay for any satellite or cable services, I just have freeview & freesat. I don't have any grey friends.. or whatever colour they are. I don't honestly know if they're friendly or not, I dunno.. The Pres Truman thing.. well.. I admit I was quoting this from 'Dark Skies..' where in episode 2.. Truman is supposed to have met with a greyish alien in the desert, who demanded Truman of his unconditional surrender. It was only a science fiction program after all.. could be true, but, probably not! Who knows what happened, if anything.. at all.. I'm not trying to dis-credit Einstein, he was obviously a very clever bloke.. a Genius!! but I'm simply saying that people should be allowed to question someone like Albert Einstein.. after all..! he could have been wrong.. or not got it all correct. Even a great thinker.. should be doubted.. as it's the only way to move on to the eventual truth.. I honestly don't know if ETs are here, but I have had sightings of a flying saucer, an orange fireball, a black triangle with purple lights, & 2 bright white egg shaped objects flying at high speed. I 'know..!' there's sommat flying about up there.. cos I seen them. When I saw the flying saucer outside my window.. I could swear I had some sort of 'mind' communication with whatever/whoever was controlling the airborne vehicle. I was 'called' to the window, then I saw the flying saucer. I've no idea if 'they' come from other worlds or galaxies or dimensions.. or if they're friendly or not. But, it was quite an experience!! Aye.. you're right.. I know nowt.. but know enough to know there's sommat going on, & that I'd like to know.. & I'd like to see folk more open-minded that's all. I'm tired of skeptics winning 'every' argument & ridiculing everything! Really!?!?!? Your tired of the skeptics, huh. You know you would think someone who pins his "universal" beliefs on something sooooo important would have done his homework on the subject. And no, i dont mean the sci fi channel's science "fiction"(key word)BS. Lets take a look at the 2 most knowledgeable men in the history of UFO's and aliens shall we?!!?!?! Jaques Vallee J Alyn Hynek (deceased) No 2 men have studies these issues more than these 2 men. Also, we will look at what DR. Karla Turner has to say as well, and maybe even some others depending on how much time we have for todays session 1st Dr Turner According to Dr. Karla Turner, who has worked with over 400 abduction cases and has written the book "Into the Fringe", says if abduction accounts can be believed and there is confirmation of many of these facts with other researchers - the abduction phenomena includes some of the following details: from -UFO Universe, Spring 1993. Aliens -Friends or Foes by Dr. Karla Turner: - Aliens can alter our perceptions of our surroundings. - Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to us any number of guises and shapes. - Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can make themselves only partially visible. - Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the well-known scoops and straight-line scars. These other marks include single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three-and four fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort. - Female abductees often suffer serious gynecological problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breast and uterus, and to hysterectomies. - A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious illnesses they didn't have before their encounters. These have led to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors can't identify. - Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien during an experience, not just the greys. Every possible combination of grey, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same facility. - Abductees report being scoffed at, jeered at, and threatened by their alien captors. Painful genital and anal probes are performed... Unknown fluids are injected into some abductees. - Abductees-"virgin" cases- report being taken to underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures, nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid filled with parts of human bodies. - Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they don't co-operate with their alien captors. - Aliens come into homes and temporarily remove young children, leaving their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The children belong to us." - Aliens have forced their human abductees to have sexual intercourse with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees. - Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no explanation why.....Painful genital and anal probes are performed, on children as well as adults. - Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and destruction. They say that a certain number of humans...will be "rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over. Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans. In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from unrelated cases, confirming that such bizzarre details are not the product of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that, contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction experience isn't limited to uniform pattern of events. This phenomenon simply can't be explained in terms of cross- breeding experiments or scientific research into the human physiology....... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CONTINUED Dr Vallee - While there seems to be evidence for UFO related activties as mentioned above, perhaps there are other possible explanations. There seems to be from reports and research, components which parallel paranormal, psychic, and spiritistic manifestations, etc.5,6. Many UFO abductees, contactees and researchers, for instance, believe there is an interdimensional or multidimensional quality to the UFO phenomena and related experiences. Although the UFO phenomena may appear real enough, it also could be a holigraphic illusion or a transmorification of matter and energy. Perhaps certain intelligences have the power to shape matter and spirit. Some ufos and their occupants seem to have an ability to shape shift and appear and disappear 5,6. Dr. J. Allen Hyneck suggested the phenomena appears to be more psychic than extra-terrestrial and perhaps comes from a parallel world. This also seems to be Dr. Jacque Vallee's explanation 6, 9. - Dr. Vallee also notes that there are authoritarian overtones to some of the messages given to contactees 8 ie. democracy is obsolete, elections should be done away with 4, racist idealogies are encouraged - some have more alien DNA etc., a New World Order is needed and will be set up with alien help. He also believes that some kind of control system is being set up by the UFO phenomena which challenges our traditions and human beliefs systems 6,8. Many abductees report implants and feel they are being manipulated for some unknown purpose that's yet to be revealed. Dr Vallee has gone on record along with Hynek before he died, by both stating that UFO's are "earth centered and the occupants are not from other galaxies" Huh this after 40 years of research in the field! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 238647 United States 02/21/2008 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | explain this one to me................. - Many alien prophesies to contactees of the 50's or to-day have failed to come true or appear to be outright lies. Many contactees and abductees to-day are again delivering warnings of coming earth changes and disasters along with promises of help from aliens...they feel chosen to deliver a message to mankind ...the prophesies may be creating a false hope and dependency in their abductors who they know little about. Heres one of the most famous abductees ever!! Whitley Streiber Whitley Striber, in a recent issue of the monthly MUFON Journal, Sept. 93, states - "I've come away from this experience convinced of one thing: if there aren't demons out there, there might as well be, because these guys are indistinguishable from demons. Indistinguishable. To see them, to look into their eyes, is to be less - forever......." Striber seems to swing from horror to naieve trust.. you see this in his books and statements to the public. Perhaps, he is not so sure of the visitor's intentions. WOW! He seems to be really distraught over their "galactic intentions". Now ask yourself, why!?!?!? would "aliens" travel across the cosmos with superadvanced alien technology and intellect allllll the way to earth to do these sick, evil, things to humans?!?!? NO where do you see any of these investigators talk of Space craft that travel to other worlds, and helpful aliens here to explain solutions to our earthly problems. It doesnt even make "alien" sense! |
Prof.Abronsious User ID: 293205 Hong Kong 02/21/2008 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Okay.So lets delve into the theory that "aliens" are from earth.Are these creatures the children of the nephilim as some have concluded? Could it be true that when God flooded the earth it was an attempt to wipe out the nephilims dna that was cross bred into human beings and Noahs bloodline was intact and could be traced back to Genesis. Could it be true that God imprisoned the nephilim and their offspring in a subterranean prison where they are to wait until the time of the second coming when they will be unleashed upon the world to do as they please?Is this why the sightings have become more and more frequent?Because we are growing closer to the time of the end days? The Bible says that Satan is a being of Light.Are his minions also angels of light?Is this why people report seeing lights in the skys? Have the abductions of human beings been a result of these nephilim beings abtaining DNA to clone cross bred soldiers to form the army that will fight the final battle between good and evil as predicted in the Holy Bible? Perhaps this is true.But purhaps there are others that do visit this world as well.Those who guard against the nephilim and keep them imprisoned. Why would this cause world governments to seek to hide this information from public knowledge?Could it be fear of wide spread panic?Mass suicides and anarchy and chaos on such a level that it would tumble the structure of society as we know it? The United States government has been able to seize and store information from across the globe that pertains to these issues.Perhaps not knowing is all that stands between waking up tomorrow to a normal day and waking up to just trying to survive with your life intact. |