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IRAN AND ITS GROSS VIOLATIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS

 
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Iran's gross violations of human rights

Draft Iranian law threatens gross human rights violations
NEW YORK
22 February 2008 (BWNS)

The Iranian Parliament is considering legislation that would institutionalize a series of gross human rights violations, affecting not only Baha'is but many others, even outside of Iran, the Baha'i International Community said today.

Of greatest concern is a section that would mandate the death penalty for anyone who converts from Islam to another religion, a provision that would affect not only Baha'is but also Christians, Jews, and others.

"This proposed law goes against all human rights norms and standards, including international treaties that Iran itself has agreed to," said Bani Dugal, the principal representative of the Baha'i International Community to the United Nations.

"It is important for the international community to speak out, now, before it is too late and the draft code becomes Iran's law of the land."

The proposed law also would extend the government's reach over alleged security violations outside the country, give legal effect to discriminatory practices already in wide use against Baha'is and others, and redefine a series of "religious" and other crimes so vaguely as to place in jeopardy virtually any group facing government disapproval.

"If adopted, the code will permit the government and the clergy to act with impunity against Iran's citizens on the sole basis of their religious affiliation," said Ms. Dugal. "This is not only an affront to the people of Iran; it is an offense to all who seek to uphold fundamental human rights."

Ms. Dugal said the new section on religious conversion -- defined as apostasy -- is especially severe, in that its language mandates the death penalty for anyone who converts from Islam to another religion and does not immediately recant.

"The text uses the word Hadd, meaning that it explicitly sets death as a fixed punishment that cannot be changed, reduced or annulled," said Ms. Dugal. "In the past, the death penalty has been handed down -- and also carried out -- in apostasy cases, but it has never before been set down in law.

"The law also extends to naming as apostate any follower of a religion other than Islam who had one parent who was a Muslim at the time of his or her conception. Thus, for instance, the child of a Muslim and a Christian who chooses to adopt the Christian faith would be considered an apostate under the terms of the law and therefore subject to execution," Ms. Dugal said.

Another troubling section of the proposed code would extend "security" laws outside the country, exposing those outside Iran to the government's reach.

"Iran is apparently not content with targeting those it considers its opponents only within its borders," said Ms. Dugal, explaining that Article 112 of the proposed code refers to actions "against the government, the independence and the internal and external security of the country."

"Since the notion of 'security' is not defined in the law, any action can be qualified as such," Ms. Dugal said. "Indeed, many Iranian Baha'is have been falsely accused of activities against the security of the state.

"If the new penal code is adopted, Iranian Baha'is -- and others -- all over the world would likewise be liable for actions taken outside Iran that are considered contrary to Iran's security."

The code's vagueness with respect to "offending the sacred" and other crimes would give the government free license to act against any group it disapproves of, said Ms. Dugal. "The code includes articles that refer to the commission of unspecified crimes or felonies, as well as articles referring to those guilty of 'corruption and mischief on the earth,'" she said.

"It would also institute capital punishment for anyone who 'insults the Prophet,'" Ms. Dugal explained. "Such provisions place many groups, including Baha'is, in an extremely vulnerable position, since an 'insult' to the Prophet can be defined in almost any context, especially where religious belief is concerned."

In related developments, the Presidency of the European Union recently expressed concern over the situation of the Baha'i community in Iran.

"The EU expresses its serious concern at the worsening situation of ethnic and religious minorities in Iran, in particular to the plight of the Baha'i," said the EU Presidency in a statement on 7 February 2008.

"The EU is concerned about the ongoing systematic discrimination and harassment of Baha'is in Iran, including the expulsion of university and high school students, restrictions on employment and anti-Baha'i propaganda campaigns in the Iranian media."
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thus a Muslim who converts to a Christian Faith in another country may have a death penalty imposed on him/her by the Iranian authorities...
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hhmmmmm...
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America needs to look long and hard in the mirror before criticising any Country about humnan rights violations, the US is especially good at holding people with no trial and what of water boarding and Gitmo, these are just the tip of the iceberg, take the log out of your own eye before you remove the speck from anyone elses!!!!!
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English translation ...

The following are excepts from the draft penal code currently under discussion by the Iranian Parliament, concerning “apostasy” and related crimes.
Islamic Republic of Iran
Proposed Bill for Islamic Penal Law (Penal Code)
(…)
Section Five: Apostasy, Heresy, and Witchcraft
Article 225-1: Any Muslim who clearly announces that he/she has left Islam and declares blasphemy is an Apostate.
Article 225-2: Serious and earnest intention is the condition for certainty in apostasy. Therefore, if the accused claims that his/her statement had been made with reluctance or ignorance, or in error, or while drunk, or through a slip of the tongue or without understanding the meaning of the words, or repeating words of others; or his/her real intentions had been something else, he/she is not considered an apostate and his/her claim could be heard and justified.
Article 225-3: There are two kinds of apostates: innate (Fetri) and parental1 (Melli).
Article 225-4: Innate Apostate is someone whose parent (at least one) was a Muslim at the time of conception, and who declares him/herself a Muslim after the age of maturity, and leaves Islam afterwards.
Article 225-5: Parental Apostate is one whose parents (both) had been non-Muslims at the time of conception, and who has become a Muslim after the age of maturity, and later leaves Islam and returns to blasphemy.
Article 225-6: If someone has at least one Muslim parent at the time of conception but after the age of maturity, without pretending to be a Muslim, chooses blasphemy is considered a Parental Apostate.
Article 225-7: Punishment2 for an Innate Apostate is death.
1 The word (Melli) in this case means ‘of parents’.
2 The word used here (Hadd) means limits but according to the definition given at the beginning of the document, Hadd in Islamic penal law applies to fixed penalties – their nature, limit, and condition, set in the religious laws, could not be changed, reduced or annulled. Crimes punishable by Hadd are adultery, pimping, false sexual accusations, defamation of the Prophet, apostasy and heresy and witchcraft, drinking, burglary, and spread of corruption and aggression on earth. It should be noted that in all these cases one of the conditions for accountability of the accused is his/her knowledge of the gravity of the crime in the Islamic law.
Article 225-8: Punishment for a Parental Apostate is death, but after the final sentencing for three days he/she would be guided to the right path and encouraged to recant his/her belief and if he/she refused, the death penalty would be carried out.
Article 225-9: In the case of a Parental Apostate, whenever there appears to be a possibility of recanting, sufficient time would be provided.
Article 225-10: Punishment for women, whether Innate or Parental, is life imprisonment and during the sentence, under the guidance of the court, hardship will be exercised on her, and she will be guided to the right path and encouraged to recant, and if she recants she will be freed immediately.
Note: The condition of hardship will be determined according to the religious laws.
Article 225-11: Whoever claims to be a Prophet is sentenced to death, and any Muslim who invents a heresy in the religion and creates a sect based on that which is contrary to the obligations and necessities of Islam, is considered an apostate.
Article 225-12: Any Muslim who deals with witchcraft and promotes it as a profession or sect in the community is sentenced to death.
Article 225-13: Assistance to the crimes in this chapter, in case there is no other punishment assigned to it by law, is punishable by up to 74 lashes in proportion with the crime and the criminal.
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Numerous countries violate human rights.. ones which are considered "the most developed nations" on earth.

The only reason anyone is caring about Iran now is because the Zionist bitch media are trying to push their agenda on everyone and paint Iran in a bad light.
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America needs to look long and hard in the mirror before criticising any Country about humnan rights violations, the US is especially good at holding people with no trial and what of water boarding and Gitmo, these are just the tip of the iceberg, take the log out of your own eye before you remove the speck from anyone elses!!!!!
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Well said AC. The pot boiling the kettle black.. as they say.
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America needs to look long and hard in the mirror before criticising any Country about humnan rights violations, the US is especially good at holding people with no trial and what of water boarding and Gitmo, these are just the tip of the iceberg, take the log out of your own eye before you remove the speck from anyone elses!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 378936

The people at Guantanomo aren't our own citizens, they're terrorists trying to kill us.

We have to do what's necessary.
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Look at Denmark now
[link to ukpress.google.com]


and

DENMARK More than 20 people were arrested in Denmark following eight consecutive nights of youth rioting and vandalism across the country, the BBC reported Feb. 18. The violence started shortly after stricter police controls were introduced. The detained rioters are suspected of setting fire to buildings, schools, cars and trash cans.

and this statement:Think of the significance of this...

The code's vagueness with respect to "offending the sacred" and other crimes would give the government free license to act against any group it disapproves of, said Ms. Dugal. "The code includes articles that refer to the commission of unspecified crimes or felonies, as well as articles referring to those guilty of 'corruption and mischief on the earth,'" she said.
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Say Iran does like what a country does and calls on Muslims to other throw the government....look at Denmark ...it could be just the beginning...
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Blah Blah Blah.....

Isn't funny how America picks on the human rights violations of Iran, yet turn a complete blind eye to the Saudi Royal family terrorists? President Bush loves holding their hands.



American hypocracy at its finest. lol
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Yeah right 275868 how short sighted and dumb you are, i suppose the Iraqis are the same eh trying to kill you, get a grip on reality!!!
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if the world does nothing on this ...we may have in a short period of time "new changed into" Iranian supported Islamic states in a majority of Western countries....would you like that?
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thus a Muslim who converts to a Christian Faith in another country may have a death penalty imposed on him/her by the Iranian authorities...
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You mean like Obama - oops no! he's only pretending to be a Christian!
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let us not lose sight of the fact that it is a call for justice from a UN NGO office that is making this plea for the world to be aware and to act...
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just in case it was missed:

Say Iran does like what a country does and calls on Muslims to other throw the government....look at Denmark ...it could be just the beginning...
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just in case it was missed:

Say Iran does like what a country does and calls on Muslims to other throw the government....look at Denmark ...it could be just the beginning...
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Geez, the megaphonies are busy today hehe
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we need to respect religious belief and those who wish to change religious belief from Muslim to some other Faith...
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if the world does nothing on this ...we may have in a short period of time "new changed into" Iranian supported Islamic states in a majority of Western countries....would you like that?
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America needs to look long and hard in the mirror before criticising any Country about humnan rights violations, the US is especially good at holding people with no trial and what of water boarding and Gitmo, these are just the tip of the iceberg, take the log out of your own eye before you remove the speck from anyone elses!!!!!

The people at Guantanomo aren't our own citizens, they're terrorists trying to kill us.

We have to do what's necessary.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

wasnt that the argument for hitler going into czechoslavakia?
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America needs to look long and hard in the mirror before criticising any Country about humnan rights violations, the US is especially good at holding people with no trial and what of water boarding and Gitmo, these are just the tip of the iceberg, take the log out of your own eye before you remove the speck from anyone elses!!!!!

The people at Guantanomo aren't our own citizens, they're terrorists trying to kill us.

We have to do what's necessary.
 Quoting: Guns n' God

Not to mention that they would do the same to use if given the chance. People always say, "Torture is wrong" I agree. But it is also widely used by the enemy. If we don't use some form of it, what reason do they (the enemy) have to not talk? I mean they have a roof over their heads and they get meals and prayer time. That might be better than what they had in their homeland. So if a little water board time makes it so my KIDS are safer and the enemy is more scared of getting caught. Then do it.
God never gives you anything that you can't handle. So buck up and handle your shit!
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There is a difference between Hitler and the Gitmo situation. We aren't capturing them because of their looks or heritage, but because someone thinks that they could actually hurt innocent people. I don't remember reading anything about Hitler thinking that. He just wanted a "pure race", not to protect his nation from a catastrophe of human lives happening again. He created the loss of human lives instead.

On the topic at hand. Iran shouldn't be allowed to kill their own people because of religious beliefs. Now that is very Hitler ordinated.
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bsflag bsflag bsflag bsflag


Another stupid shill trying to garner support for an illegal invasion of Iran. Mind your own business, fix your own country and stop trying to take over the world. I'm a Westerner and I think the OP is full of shit. You will never ever convince me that we need to raid Pakistan or Iran, get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.
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there is an easier way....identify the decision makers in Iran and have UN sanctions on them personally eg cannot travel outside their country, bank accounts overseas frozen, no business transactions with them personally, ...
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their IP IDs can be matched and then blocked from the internet...
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the many low star voters indicates the importance of this topic...otherwise why vote it down....
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and gawdammit packey I just KNOW Saddam hid his WMDs ther e- a drunk told me-he used to be a vet, and thats good enough for me. I cant wait to get my draft card-how 'bout you-?LETS DO IT TOGETHER! BE A TOWEL_HEAD KILLING MACHINE what say Pack=
ya game?
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there is an easier way....identify the decision makers in Iran and have UN sanctions on them personally eg cannot travel outside their country, bank accounts overseas frozen, no business transactions with them personally, ...
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Iran is not the only abuser of human rights . Most governments do it . The EU , Australia, the US are giant Police States . My wife did a family search in Australia
after been told at the tender age of 50 years in 1995 that she was an adopted person . We discovered that a judge of the High Court of Australia is her brother . We never met this person and we do not wish to . This judge has a daughter that looks exactly like my wife ... The moral of the story is that we had to escape from Australia and now
we are here in Italy still followed and " gang stalked "
by the secret police . So much for the " democracy "
and freedom BULL$$$$$ .
Read why we escaped from Australia at
[link to english.pravda.ru]





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