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# water is level

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04/24/2022 08:15 AM
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The next level of discussion happens when you acquire 3rd grade reasoning skills, and realize that the flat earth model is ridiculous.

Every argument for the flat earth has been completely obliterated already, but you clearly haven't bothered looking for the refutations.
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Projection, it's a stinky cologne.
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So is snide ignorance. Give me one of your stupid flat earth arguments and I'll explain why it's stupid in terms that a child can understand.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

The earth looks flat.

There's one.
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Are you serious?
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04/24/2022 08:16 AM
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There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Why does density and weight cause things to go down? Why not up? or sideways?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Why would it cause them to go sideways or up?

You assume that based on what?

Observable nature shows that objects go straight down unless acted on by an outside force.

So lets accept it and move on, why do you have to have gravity in that equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't assume it, that's the whole point. Why would it go down without some downward force? You aren't explaining anything by just saying density.

Let's accept it and move on? In other words, don't try to explain things. Let's stick our fingers in our ears and believe which ever fairy tale makes us feel warm and fuzzy. That's a dangerously myopic world view.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So in your eyes it's dangerous to just accept that objects go straight down without a gravity force pushing or pulling.

You just can't live in a world where there is no gravity, that's the end of the argument for you.

A world without gravity apparently is dangerously myopic?
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04/24/2022 08:18 AM
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Projection, it's a stinky cologne.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

So is snide ignorance. Give me one of your stupid flat earth arguments and I'll explain why it's stupid in terms that a child can understand.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

The earth looks flat.

There's one.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Are you serious?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes.

I go out to the ocean, I see it flat as the eye can see.

I go up on a mountain, it's flat as the eye can see.

This is a huge evidence that we live on a flat plane, and it can only be "debunked" with space photos, which can easily be faked.

So this is where the breakdown occurs because you have to accept everything that NASA or other space agencies give you as truth.
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04/24/2022 08:19 AM
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Is it possible for you to communicate in regular english?
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It is. Why do you hate phonetics with such a passion?

?????

I just think the way you keep saying ewetube is just kind of obnoxious and condescending.

How would you call it then?
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2022 08:19 AM
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Water is NOT level and I can prove it. I did remote control boating for a few years. When my boat would shut off in the middle of the lake, it would ALWAYS find the sides in a very short time. Why? Because the center of the lake is always the highest point.
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04/24/2022 08:20 AM
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Is it possible for you to communicate in regular english?
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It is. Why do you hate phonetics with such a passion?
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?????

I just think the way you keep saying ewetube is just kind of obnoxious and condescending.

How would you call it then?

It's just ignorant to attack the entire platform because some people make things that you might not like.
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04/24/2022 08:21 AM
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Why does density and weight cause things to go down? Why not up? or sideways?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Why would it cause them to go sideways or up?

You assume that based on what?

Observable nature shows that objects go straight down unless acted on by an outside force.

So lets accept it and move on, why do you have to have gravity in that equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't assume it, that's the whole point. Why would it go down without some downward force? You aren't explaining anything by just saying density.

Let's accept it and move on? In other words, don't try to explain things. Let's stick our fingers in our ears and believe which ever fairy tale makes us feel warm and fuzzy. That's a dangerously myopic world view.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So in your eyes it's dangerous to just accept that objects go straight down without a gravity force pushing or pulling.

You just can't live in a world where there is no gravity, that's the end of the argument for you.

A world without gravity apparently is dangerously myopic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, that's not what I said. It's dangerous to discourage people from attempting to explain things. I'm not saying the explanation must be a certain thing.

You're saying 'things fall. Don't question it, just move on.' That mindset would never have gotten us out of the stone age.

Are you unable to understand that 'density' and 'weight' on their own are not explanations at all?
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04/24/2022 08:22 AM
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Q.Is it possible for you to communicate in regular english?
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A+Q It is. Why do you hate phonetics with such a passion?

A.?????

I just think the way you keep saying ewetube is just kind of obnoxious and condescending.

How would you call it then?
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2022 08:23 AM
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I give up.
Messed up quoting.
My apologies.
JustmeTX

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04/24/2022 08:25 AM

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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

wrong. Just blow up an air mattress and put a bowling ball on top of it.
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04/24/2022 08:26 AM
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Ice Cube
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04/24/2022 08:29 AM
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So is snide ignorance. Give me one of your stupid flat earth arguments and I'll explain why it's stupid in terms that a child can understand.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

The earth looks flat.

There's one.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Are you serious?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes.

I go out to the ocean, I see it flat as the eye can see.

I go up on a mountain, it's flat as the eye can see.

This is a huge evidence that we live on a flat plane, and it can only be "debunked" with space photos, which can easily be faked.

So this is where the breakdown occurs because you have to accept everything that NASA or other space agencies give you as truth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't think you're serious. It's not flat as the eye can see, because you can see things disappearing over the horizon. I can watch the sun disappear over the horizon, and then get in an elevator, go to the top floor, and the sun reappears.

By a drone and try it yourself. You don't need Nasa.
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04/24/2022 08:29 AM
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Why would it cause them to go sideways or up?

You assume that based on what?

Observable nature shows that objects go straight down unless acted on by an outside force.

So lets accept it and move on, why do you have to have gravity in that equation?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't assume it, that's the whole point. Why would it go down without some downward force? You aren't explaining anything by just saying density.

Let's accept it and move on? In other words, don't try to explain things. Let's stick our fingers in our ears and believe which ever fairy tale makes us feel warm and fuzzy. That's a dangerously myopic world view.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So in your eyes it's dangerous to just accept that objects go straight down without a gravity force pushing or pulling.

You just can't live in a world where there is no gravity, that's the end of the argument for you.

A world without gravity apparently is dangerously myopic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, that's not what I said. It's dangerous to discourage people from attempting to explain things. I'm not saying the explanation must be a certain thing.

You're saying 'things fall. Don't question it, just move on.' That mindset would never have gotten us out of the stone age.

Are you unable to understand that 'density' and 'weight' on their own are not explanations at all?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Textbook projection, i spotted it on you from the start.

You are claiming that I am being closed minded on the subject of gravity, but what is happening is I am giving you my reasoning for why I believe it doesn't exist.

So you can continue to be stuck on that one issue if you want but from my point of view I just don't see how gravity is possible.

I get it though, in your mind the world isn't possible without gravity, that's fine, that's what you have been raised to believe.

I just don't see how gravity can exist and push or pull things down, without being felt and also having varying strength depending on the objects weight and mass.

Do you follow that line of logic?
Anonymous Coward
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United Kingdom
04/24/2022 08:30 AM
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sure looks level - when it comes out the tap as a stream of rounded droplets

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04/24/2022 08:31 AM
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Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

wrong. Just blow up an air mattress and put a bowling ball on top of it.
Quoting: JustmeTX

yea you know those things inside of the air mattress? They are called air molecules and when you pack them together inside the mattress they become dense enough to support the bowling balls weight.

Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2022 08:32 AM
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The earth looks flat.

There's one.
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Are you serious?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes.

I go out to the ocean, I see it flat as the eye can see.

I go up on a mountain, it's flat as the eye can see.

This is a huge evidence that we live on a flat plane, and it can only be "debunked" with space photos, which can easily be faked.

So this is where the breakdown occurs because you have to accept everything that NASA or other space agencies give you as truth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't think you're serious. It's not flat as the eye can see, because you can see things disappearing over the horizon. I can watch the sun disappear over the horizon, and then get in an elevator, go to the top floor, and the sun reappears.

By a drone and try it yourself. You don't need Nasa.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes that's called perspective.

This is literally day 1 stuff.

The ground itself is flat as far as the eye can see.
Anonymous Coward
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04/24/2022 08:36 AM
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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

No such thing as gravity

Never been proven

Just a silly theory
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04/24/2022 08:40 AM
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I don't assume it, that's the whole point. Why would it go down without some downward force? You aren't explaining anything by just saying density.

Let's accept it and move on? In other words, don't try to explain things. Let's stick our fingers in our ears and believe which ever fairy tale makes us feel warm and fuzzy. That's a dangerously myopic world view.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So in your eyes it's dangerous to just accept that objects go straight down without a gravity force pushing or pulling.

You just can't live in a world where there is no gravity, that's the end of the argument for you.

A world without gravity apparently is dangerously myopic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, that's not what I said. It's dangerous to discourage people from attempting to explain things. I'm not saying the explanation must be a certain thing.

You're saying 'things fall. Don't question it, just move on.' That mindset would never have gotten us out of the stone age.

Are you unable to understand that 'density' and 'weight' on their own are not explanations at all?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Textbook projection, i spotted it on you from the start.

You are claiming that I am being closed minded on the subject of gravity, but what is happening is I am giving you my reasoning for why I believe it doesn't exist.

So you can continue to be stuck on that one issue if you want but from my point of view I just don't see how gravity is possible.

I get it though, in your mind the world isn't possible without gravity, that's fine, that's what you have been raised to believe.

I just don't see how gravity can exist and push or pull things down, without being felt and also having varying strength depending on the objects weight and mass.

Do you follow that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Projection? You literally said 'just accept it and move on.' I don't have to misrepresent you, those are your own words.

On the other hand, you are misrepresenting me, despite my clarifications. I'm not saying gravity is the ONLY explanation. I'm saying that you aren't providing an explanation at all. And you don't seem to be capable of understanding that.

Your inability to understand how something could be, doesn't make it false. That's an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Do you understand that line of logic?
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04/24/2022 08:43 AM
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So in your eyes it's dangerous to just accept that objects go straight down without a gravity force pushing or pulling.

You just can't live in a world where there is no gravity, that's the end of the argument for you.

A world without gravity apparently is dangerously myopic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, that's not what I said. It's dangerous to discourage people from attempting to explain things. I'm not saying the explanation must be a certain thing.

You're saying 'things fall. Don't question it, just move on.' That mindset would never have gotten us out of the stone age.

Are you unable to understand that 'density' and 'weight' on their own are not explanations at all?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Textbook projection, i spotted it on you from the start.

You are claiming that I am being closed minded on the subject of gravity, but what is happening is I am giving you my reasoning for why I believe it doesn't exist.

So you can continue to be stuck on that one issue if you want but from my point of view I just don't see how gravity is possible.

I get it though, in your mind the world isn't possible without gravity, that's fine, that's what you have been raised to believe.

I just don't see how gravity can exist and push or pull things down, without being felt and also having varying strength depending on the objects weight and mass.

Do you follow that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Projection? You literally said 'just accept it and move on.' I don't have to misrepresent you, those are your own words.

On the other hand, you are misrepresenting me, despite my clarifications. I'm not saying gravity is the ONLY explanation. I'm saying that you aren't providing an explanation at all. And you don't seem to be capable of understanding that.

Your inability to understand how something could be, doesn't make it false. That's an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Do you understand that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

I understand perfectly.

You assume that without gravity things should float around.

I get it.

That's your assumption and that's fine, you are entitled to it.

That doesn't change the fact that observable nature shows that objects fall straight down.

So can you explain how gravity works exactly?

How is it that gravity is strong enough to hold the oceans down but so weak that a butterfly can flap it's wings?
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04/24/2022 08:44 AM
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Are you serious?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes.

I go out to the ocean, I see it flat as the eye can see.

I go up on a mountain, it's flat as the eye can see.

This is a huge evidence that we live on a flat plane, and it can only be "debunked" with space photos, which can easily be faked.

So this is where the breakdown occurs because you have to accept everything that NASA or other space agencies give you as truth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't think you're serious. It's not flat as the eye can see, because you can see things disappearing over the horizon. I can watch the sun disappear over the horizon, and then get in an elevator, go to the top floor, and the sun reappears.

By a drone and try it yourself. You don't need Nasa.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes that's called perspective.

This is literally day 1 stuff.

The ground itself is flat as far as the eye can see.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, it isn't. Your hypothetical point of view was from the top of mountain FFS. How is that flat as the eye can see?

That's 'called perspective?' Things disappearing over the Horizon? What are you even saying? If something disappears bottom up over the horizon, exactly as an object does if you tape it to a ball... then how in the hell does it appear flat as the eye can see?
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04/24/2022 08:48 AM
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Yes.

I go out to the ocean, I see it flat as the eye can see.

I go up on a mountain, it's flat as the eye can see.

This is a huge evidence that we live on a flat plane, and it can only be "debunked" with space photos, which can easily be faked.

So this is where the breakdown occurs because you have to accept everything that NASA or other space agencies give you as truth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

I don't think you're serious. It's not flat as the eye can see, because you can see things disappearing over the horizon. I can watch the sun disappear over the horizon, and then get in an elevator, go to the top floor, and the sun reappears.

By a drone and try it yourself. You don't need Nasa.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes that's called perspective.

This is literally day 1 stuff.

The ground itself is flat as far as the eye can see.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, it isn't. Your hypothetical point of view was from the top of mountain FFS. How is that flat as the eye can see?

That's 'called perspective?' Things disappearing over the Horizon? What are you even saying? If something disappears bottom up over the horizon, exactly as an object does if you tape it to a ball... then how in the hell does it appear flat as the eye can see?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

You can't possibly be this dense.

Look go to bitchute.

Type in level 2021

go watch it

literally answers everything, like it covers every single angle.

i think maybe you need pictures and sounds to help you figure it out.
Anonymous Coward
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United Kingdom
04/24/2022 08:50 AM
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i like how the moon pulls the oceans around like some big magnet
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04/24/2022 08:50 AM
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No, that's not what I said. It's dangerous to discourage people from attempting to explain things. I'm not saying the explanation must be a certain thing.

You're saying 'things fall. Don't question it, just move on.' That mindset would never have gotten us out of the stone age.

Are you unable to understand that 'density' and 'weight' on their own are not explanations at all?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Textbook projection, i spotted it on you from the start.

You are claiming that I am being closed minded on the subject of gravity, but what is happening is I am giving you my reasoning for why I believe it doesn't exist.

So you can continue to be stuck on that one issue if you want but from my point of view I just don't see how gravity is possible.

I get it though, in your mind the world isn't possible without gravity, that's fine, that's what you have been raised to believe.

I just don't see how gravity can exist and push or pull things down, without being felt and also having varying strength depending on the objects weight and mass.

Do you follow that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Projection? You literally said 'just accept it and move on.' I don't have to misrepresent you, those are your own words.

On the other hand, you are misrepresenting me, despite my clarifications. I'm not saying gravity is the ONLY explanation. I'm saying that you aren't providing an explanation at all. And you don't seem to be capable of understanding that.

Your inability to understand how something could be, doesn't make it false. That's an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Do you understand that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

I understand perfectly.

You assume that without gravity things should float around.

I get it.

That's your assumption and that's fine, you are entitled to it.

That doesn't change the fact that observable nature shows that objects fall straight down.

So can you explain how gravity works exactly?

How is it that gravity is strong enough to hold the oceans down but so weak that a butterfly can flap it's wings?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

That's your third strawman fallacy. I am not presupposing the existence of gravity and have never done so. I am saying that density on its own does not explain why things fall down. If you fail to understand this again, I'll just assume you are being deliberately dishonest.

We are both in agreement things fall down. I'm saying that requires an explanation. You're saying 'we don't need to explain it, just move on.'

How is it strong enough to hold the ocean down? Against what? Why are you assuming that the ocean should go up?

A butterfly weighs less than 10 millimeters of water, and even then, it can't fly without displacing the air around its wings.
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04/24/2022 08:53 AM
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but cover a tennis ball in water and throw it into the air and spin it at the same time, the water sprays off, also a container ship upside down being pulled by this amazing force of gravity, but on the captains table is a piece of tissue , unable to be flattened out by this all empowering force of gravity
Quoting: Simonleluk

Does the tennis ball have/create a significant amount of it's own gravity???

No.

Stupid argument is obvious (to anybody).

What causes the water droplets to fall "down" once they separate from the ball? The earths Gravity.

A container ship is is buoyed up by it's "displacement". ..

The volume of water the ship moves by its sheer size; Weighs more than the weight of the ship. The force of the water pushing back is called "buoyancy".
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04/24/2022 08:54 AM
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if only we knew what was on the other side the firmament, then we could start to discuss some proper interesting things. as we live on a plane, proven by the fact water is always level, no one is able to show that we are moving or spinning, simple math shows there is no curve.
but maybe on the other side of the antartica ice wall there are other lands, extra territorys ,other peoples. this is an interesting topic, but so hated and ...not this thread again, retards etc, but offers the most interesting line of conversation. i wish we could take this interesting subject to the next level of discussion.
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I don't think you're serious. It's not flat as the eye can see, because you can see things disappearing over the horizon. I can watch the sun disappear over the horizon, and then get in an elevator, go to the top floor, and the sun reappears.

By a drone and try it yourself. You don't need Nasa.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

Yes that's called perspective.

This is literally day 1 stuff.

The ground itself is flat as far as the eye can see.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, it isn't. Your hypothetical point of view was from the top of mountain FFS. How is that flat as the eye can see?

That's 'called perspective?' Things disappearing over the Horizon? What are you even saying? If something disappears bottom up over the horizon, exactly as an object does if you tape it to a ball... then how in the hell does it appear flat as the eye can see?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

You can't possibly be this dense.

Look go to bitchute.

Type in level 2021

go watch it

literally answers everything, like it covers every single angle.

i think maybe you need pictures and sounds to help you figure it out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

lol. Yeah I'm the dense one... if something thousands of miles wide looks flat from my tiny ant-like perspective, then it must be flat entirely. Even though I plainly see things disappear over the edge.

I've seen your stupid flat earth videos. Have you tired watching the refutation videos?
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04/24/2022 08:55 AM
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Textbook projection, i spotted it on you from the start.

You are claiming that I am being closed minded on the subject of gravity, but what is happening is I am giving you my reasoning for why I believe it doesn't exist.

So you can continue to be stuck on that one issue if you want but from my point of view I just don't see how gravity is possible.

I get it though, in your mind the world isn't possible without gravity, that's fine, that's what you have been raised to believe.

I just don't see how gravity can exist and push or pull things down, without being felt and also having varying strength depending on the objects weight and mass.

Do you follow that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Projection? You literally said 'just accept it and move on.' I don't have to misrepresent you, those are your own words.

On the other hand, you are misrepresenting me, despite my clarifications. I'm not saying gravity is the ONLY explanation. I'm saying that you aren't providing an explanation at all. And you don't seem to be capable of understanding that.

Your inability to understand how something could be, doesn't make it false. That's an appeal to ignorance fallacy. Do you understand that line of logic?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

I understand perfectly.

You assume that without gravity things should float around.

I get it.

That's your assumption and that's fine, you are entitled to it.

That doesn't change the fact that observable nature shows that objects fall straight down.

So can you explain how gravity works exactly?

How is it that gravity is strong enough to hold the oceans down but so weak that a butterfly can flap it's wings?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

That's your third strawman fallacy. I am not presupposing the existence of gravity and have never done so. I am saying that density on its own does not explain why things fall down. If you fail to understand this again, I'll just assume you are being deliberately dishonest.

We are both in agreement things fall down. I'm saying that requires an explanation. You're saying 'we don't need to explain it, just move on.'

How is it strong enough to hold the ocean down? Against what? Why are you assuming that the ocean should go up?

A butterfly weighs less than 10 millimeters of water, and even then, it can't fly without displacing the air around its wings.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

First you said "why don't objects go up or sideways?" but you accuse me of creating the strawman?

You are the one assuming that objects should go up or sideways or elsewhere without gravity, that's you.

Density is a perfectly fine explanation, you are the one demanding more and not accepting it.

And that's fine brother, that's your god given right, but don't act like that proves anything.

So in a world where we live on a ball flying through space, why wouldn't the water fly off the ball?

Because gravity would have to exist to prevent it.

So you see it's a house cards that relies on gravity.

The fact that you are so basic in your understanding, or lack thereof in this debate, tells me you have done any type of research into the matter and are acting on pure instinct right now.

Either that or you are trolling, either way you are out of your league here my friend.
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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

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Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

And butterflies flit freely.
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Yes that's called perspective.

This is literally day 1 stuff.

The ground itself is flat as far as the eye can see.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

No, it isn't. Your hypothetical point of view was from the top of mountain FFS. How is that flat as the eye can see?

That's 'called perspective?' Things disappearing over the Horizon? What are you even saying? If something disappears bottom up over the horizon, exactly as an object does if you tape it to a ball... then how in the hell does it appear flat as the eye can see?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

You can't possibly be this dense.

Look go to bitchute.

Type in level 2021

go watch it

literally answers everything, like it covers every single angle.

i think maybe you need pictures and sounds to help you figure it out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

lol. Yeah I'm the dense one... if something thousands of miles wide looks flat from my tiny ant-like perspective, then it must be flat entirely. Even though I plainly see things disappear over the edge.

I've seen your stupid flat earth videos. Have you tired watching the refutation videos?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So again here you assume that because you feel that you are ant like and the world is so huge, that it must be a ball.

Again you can assume all you want that's fine, the reality is the earth looks flat, as far out as you can see and as high up as you can go.

Yes I have watched the refutation videos.

Basically just mouthpeices saying "no" or just giving their opinions on why they disagree.

Doesn't mean anything, the video in particular goes into such detail and depth and is not refutable, that's why youtube's algorithm hides it from searches and that's why any time you try to link it here, the URL gets changed.
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No, it isn't. Your hypothetical point of view was from the top of mountain FFS. How is that flat as the eye can see?

That's 'called perspective?' Things disappearing over the Horizon? What are you even saying? If something disappears bottom up over the horizon, exactly as an object does if you tape it to a ball... then how in the hell does it appear flat as the eye can see?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

You can't possibly be this dense.

Look go to bitchute.

Type in level 2021

go watch it

literally answers everything, like it covers every single angle.

i think maybe you need pictures and sounds to help you figure it out.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

lol. Yeah I'm the dense one... if something thousands of miles wide looks flat from my tiny ant-like perspective, then it must be flat entirely. Even though I plainly see things disappear over the edge.

I've seen your stupid flat earth videos. Have you tired watching the refutation videos?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80131628

So again here you assume that because you feel that you are ant like and the world is so huge, that it must be a ball.

Again you can assume all you want that's fine, the reality is the earth looks flat, as far out as you can see and as high up as you can go.

Yes I have watched the refutation videos.

Basically just mouthpeices saying "no" or just giving their opinions on why they disagree.

Doesn't mean anything, the video in particular goes into such detail and depth and is not refutable, that's why youtube's algorithm hides it from searches and that's why any time you try to link it here, the URL gets changed.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Jesus Christ... You did it again. You're incapable of not strawmanning me.

For you to take what I said and extrapolate that to 'you feel like you are an ant, therefor the earth is a ball.' Requires such poor language comprehension, or deliberate dishonesty, that there's no point talking to you. Have fun in the Dark ages.