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# water is level

Anonymous Coward
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04/26/2022 03:10 PM
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Re: water is level
Water is level, until it's not.

What I mean by that is, forces can make water do amazing things. Water has memory, water vapor is all around us, but bodies of water also hold unique characteristics.

Gravity effects water.

Now, I see your point. In general, local, conditions, yes, water is generally level. However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Then why do we go down to water level? It's easier to prove water always settles level and flat than to prove gravity which has not been proven, Newtons book bigger than the Bible is based on if statements. Gravity falls apart when mass is involved as believers say gravity hold down water to the ball yet a single human can splash it into the air... if a force soo string can hold the weight of the world's water how could a single human lift it into the sky?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80764005

It's actually really, really simple to understand.

An object at rest stays at rest, unless acted on by an external force. The water stays down because there is no force pushing it up. When a hand splashes it into the air, that is an upward force moving the water. Why would something go up into the air without any upward force acting on it? Gravity is applying a downward force on the water, so it stays down, until an equal or greater upward force (such as the hand) acts on it.

Get it?
Simonleluk  (OP)

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04/27/2022 02:45 PM
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if the curve of the earth is 8 inches per mile squared that's a hell of a lot of bendy water
gravity is still a theory , but level water is not a theory. there is no bendy water, the great lakes do not curve at the above formula they are perfectly flat, there are measurements to show they are level
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04/27/2022 02:58 PM
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The Earth is flat and stationary…see the YouTube videos of Eric Dubay…
11Pythagoras11

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04/28/2022 08:00 AM
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Take a water level up a modest height and it proves the horizon drops below eye level.....
Can't happen on a flat earth....

Perspective cannot explain sunsets.....as the sun would need to be 175,000+ miles away to drop to within 1 degree above a flat earth horizon......while simultaneously being over some1 else's head at noon.....

Just how big do you think flat earth is....??
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04/28/2022 09:21 AM
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if the curve of the earth is 8 inches per mile squared that's a hell of a lot of bendy water
gravity is still a theory , but level water is not a theory. there is no bendy water, the great lakes do not curve at the above formula they are perfectly flat, there are measurements to show they are level
Quoting: Simonleluk

Measurements show curvature. Stop blindly believing flat earth con artists.

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04/28/2022 09:49 AM
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2012Portal
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04/28/2022 10:46 AM

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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

To me, it does not really matter if the earth is flat, round or roundish with a hollow section!

Hollow earth playlist you may find interesting - [link to youtube.com (secure)]

Gravity is not a mystical force. Well as mystical as the force of wind.

We are always learning.
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Simonleluk  (OP)

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04/29/2022 09:19 AM
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if the curve of the earth is 8 inches per mile squared that's a hell of a lot of bendy water
gravity is still a theory , but level water is not a theory. there is no bendy water, the great lakes do not curve at the above formula they are perfectly flat, there are measurements to show they are level
Quoting: Simonleluk

Measurements show curvature. Stop blindly believing flat earth con artists.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83029939

I've seen better experiments showing lasers being shot accros 30-40 kilometres by numerous people, one of the most scientific was done by a group called fecore , [link to fraudcore (secure)]
there is a 2 hour documentary showing no curve across flat body of connected water. a one minute video you posted is just amateur hour, stop blindly believing the bullshit you choose to watch, you can try this at home with water, it always forms a level.

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Simonleluk  (OP)

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04/29/2022 09:25 AM
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Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

To me, it does not really matter if the earth is flat, round or roundish with a hollow section!

Hollow earth playlist you may find interesting - [link to youtube.com (secure)]

Gravity is not a mystical force. Well as mystical as the force of wind.

We are always learning.
Quoting: 2012Portal

i suppose the only reason i care is because of the lies.the controllers are pulling one over on us for nefarious reasons, that can only be bad.
i have looked at the hollow earth and am not sure what is below us, it seems some have managed to break through to the inner world and also past the ice walls ,admiral byrd for example, what is interesting then is all this extra land and possibly peoples that we are seperate from. i do not know what is outside our firmament, and many others can see clearly we are on a plane. when you look at real images of the stars, they seem to be vibrating frequency pattern and also as if in water. there are many images , amateur astronomers and p900 users have posted.
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04/29/2022 10:55 AM

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We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Dense objects weigh more, without something more dense to support that objects weight, it will fall.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

There can't be a mystical force that changes it's strength at will, depending on the objects mass and trajectory.

sorry that's a fairy tale.

And you mention god and don't acknowledge the flat earth, even though there is no mention in the bible anywhere of earth being a ball flying through space.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

To me, it does not really matter if the earth is flat, round or roundish with a hollow section!

Hollow earth playlist you may find interesting - [link to youtube.com (secure)]

Gravity is not a mystical force. Well as mystical as the force of wind.

We are always learning.
Quoting: 2012Portal

i suppose the only reason i care is because of the lies.the controllers are pulling one over on us for nefarious reasons, that can only be bad.
i have looked at the hollow earth and am not sure what is below us, it seems some have managed to break through to the inner world and also past the ice walls ,admiral byrd for example, what is interesting then is all this extra land and possibly peoples that we are seperate from. i do not know what is outside our firmament, and many others can see clearly we are on a plane. when you look at real images of the stars, they seem to be vibrating frequency pattern and also as if in water. there are many images , amateur astronomers and p900 users have posted.
Quoting: Simonleluk

Oh, I agree, it amazes me.

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04/29/2022 12:05 PM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....
The angle to the sun at high noon.....as seen from each degree of latitude.....
Its unwavering steady size and speed as you track it on a gimbal fixed to your latitude....

The opposing rotation of the stars north and south of the equator.....their predictably rise or fall in proportion to degrees of latitude traveled....

There is nowhere over a flat surface you can put the sun or stars that will result in the same angles that have been observed for thousands of years all over the planet.....only a circular curve can account for it....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

The horizon dropping below eye level as you rise in altitude.....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....
Things you can do in your backyard.....or hiking up a mountain trail with a water level......or renting a boat and sailing a few miles out.....
Or....at the most extreme.... driving a thousand miles north or south from your current latitude....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....then you must concede that everything we see in the sky is some kind of magical hologram......diabolically engineered to adjust to each viewers unique perspective....with the sole purpose of deceiving every1 into thinking we're standing on the surface of a sphere....

No human agency could construct such an illusion......or hide its properties with disinformation.....
Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 12:28 PM
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Level = a line or surface that cuts perpendicularly all plumb lines that it meets and hence would everywhere coincide with a surface of still water.
Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 01:00 PM
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Riddle me this Globe Tards.
Its called the Horizion???????

For the HORIZONTAL line it represnts

Level flat plane
1000% not spinning

Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 02:04 PM
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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

Gravity is another lie to support the globe lie.
Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 02:09 PM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....
The angle to the sun at high noon.....as seen from each degree of latitude.....
Its unwavering steady size and speed as you track it on a gimbal fixed to your latitude....

The opposing rotation of the stars north and south of the equator.....their predictably rise or fall in proportion to degrees of latitude traveled....

There is nowhere over a flat surface you can put the sun or stars that will result in the same angles that have been observed for thousands of years all over the planet.....only a circular curve can account for it....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

The horizon dropping below eye level as you rise in altitude.....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....
Things you can do in your backyard.....or hiking up a mountain trail with a water level......or renting a boat and sailing a few miles out.....
Or....at the most extreme.... driving a thousand miles north or south from your current latitude....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....then you must concede that everything we see in the sky is some kind of magical hologram......diabolically engineered to adjust to each viewers unique perspective....with the sole purpose of deceiving every1 into thinking we're standing on the surface of a sphere....

No human agency could construct such an illusion......or hide its properties with disinformation.....
Quoting: 11Pythagoras11

Try understanding that we don't go around anything, it all revolves around us. Open your eyes, the deception is huge.
Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 02:14 PM
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if the curve of the earth is 8 inches per mile squared that's a hell of a lot of bendy water
gravity is still a theory , but level water is not a theory. there is no bendy water, the great lakes do not curve at the above formula they are perfectly flat, there are measurements to show they are level
Quoting: Simonleluk

Measurements show curvature. Stop blindly believing flat earth con artists.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83029939

I've seen better experiments showing lasers being shot accros 30-40 kilometres by numerous people, one of the most scientific was done by a group called fecore , [link to fraudcore (secure)]
there is a 2 hour documentary showing no curve across flat body of connected water. a one minute video you posted is just amateur hour, stop blindly believing the bullshit you choose to watch, you can try this at home with water, it always forms a level.
Quoting: Simonleluk

I've seen water curve. Ever make a compass with a glass of water, a cork, and a needle? But that's it
2012Portal
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04/29/2022 02:21 PM

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However the force of gravity is immense and all powerful.

Quoting: 2012Portal

Yes it's so powerful a small child can easily lift their arm and overcome it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

We are also powerful mechanism and God has gifted us. Yet if we roll out of bed in our sleep, we fall straight to the ground. Gravity wins.

A body of water is inert.
Yes, it moves downward, with the force of gravity. Yet it will not break the laws of gravity. Now, water will become vapor and in that way, as independent H2O molecules, seem to break the laws of gravity, but once again that is due to other forces, like heat and wind.
Quoting: 2012Portal

Gravity is another lie to support the globe lie.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82808600

From the love of power to the power of Love - My camera and video gear:
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"Jesus Christ, the Son of God our Savior"
Anonymous Coward
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04/29/2022 02:24 PM
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80582737

Awful convinent of them to not bring a laser or something that zooms in. Perception is a tricky thing.
Simonleluk  (OP)

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04/30/2022 04:46 AM
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Riddle me this Globe Tards.
Its called the Horizion???????

For the HORIZONTAL line it represnts

Level flat plane
1000% not spinning

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80815623

ha , nice one , how about sea level!
Simonleluk
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04/30/2022 04:49 AM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....
The angle to the sun at high noon.....as seen from each degree of latitude.....
Its unwavering steady size and speed as you track it on a gimbal fixed to your latitude....

The opposing rotation of the stars north and south of the equator.....their predictably rise or fall in proportion to degrees of latitude traveled....

There is nowhere over a flat surface you can put the sun or stars that will result in the same angles that have been observed for thousands of years all over the planet.....only a circular curve can account for it....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

The horizon dropping below eye level as you rise in altitude.....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....
Things you can do in your backyard.....or hiking up a mountain trail with a water level......or renting a boat and sailing a few miles out.....
Or....at the most extreme.... driving a thousand miles north or south from your current latitude....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....then you must concede that everything we see in the sky is some kind of magical hologram......diabolically engineered to adjust to each viewers unique perspective....with the sole purpose of deceiving every1 into thinking we're standing on the surface of a sphere....

i see you are just copying and pasting this flimsy argument on all flat earth threads now! its very easy to see the stars rotate around us, have you seen the time lapse recordings, also what is seen in the southern area is a 6 and in the north a 9. its a large flat plane we are on and everything cannot be seen from everywhere
Simonleluk
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04/30/2022 06:07 AM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....
The angle to the sun at high noon.....as seen from each degree of latitude.....
Its unwavering steady size and speed as you track it on a gimbal fixed to your latitude....

The opposing rotation of the stars north and south of the equator.....their predictably rise or fall in proportion to degrees of latitude traveled....

There is nowhere over a flat surface you can put the sun or stars that will result in the same angles that have been observed for thousands of years all over the planet.....only a circular curve can account for it....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

The horizon dropping below eye level as you rise in altitude.....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....
Things you can do in your backyard.....or hiking up a mountain trail with a water level......or renting a boat and sailing a few miles out.....
Or....at the most extreme.... driving a thousand miles north or south from your current latitude....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....then you must concede that everything we see in the sky is some kind of magical hologram......diabolically engineered to adjust to each viewers unique perspective....with the sole purpose of deceiving every1 into thinking we're standing on the surface of a sphere....

i see you are just copying and pasting this flimsy argument on all flat earth threads now! its very easy to see the stars rotate around us, have you seen the time lapse recordings, also what is seen in the southern area is a 6 and in the north a 9. its a large flat plane we are on and everything cannot be seen from everywhere
Quoting: 11Pythagoras11

You don't think that it's odd that the stars rotate in one direction in the northern hemisphere and another direction in the southern hemisphere? If we were just turtles stuck under a bowl of a retarded terrarium, you think we would all observe the stupid terrarium bowl rotating the same direction.
Anonymous Coward
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04/30/2022 08:16 AM
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There's a fake video out there, with a bunch of fake pilots who claim the shit is fake flat and no pitch corrections to account for real curvature.
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04/30/2022 09:49 AM
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There is no force of gravity though, that's just density and weight.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

You can't prove that.

Why don't objects fall side-ways?

There is a direction. And that direction was decided by the Architect.

If there was a force pushing or pulling down then hot air balloons and butterflies couldn't fly.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Again false.

Not all matter are equal in composition and thus not all matter react equally to physics.
Anonymous Coward
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04/30/2022 09:58 AM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....
Quoting: 11Pythagoras11

It all points to that, that earth is a plain.

Earth's magnetic field could never exist on ball.

Your compass needle would always point into the void of space because the compass is level with the surface you're standing on, and the so-called curvature of the ground all around-and-afar curves underneath you and so the compass needle would be pointing into space/atmosphere and that's not where the magnetic north is-located on Pinocchio's spherical earth.
Anonymous Coward
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04/30/2022 10:05 AM
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Why would it cause them to go sideways or up?

You assume that based on what?

Observable nature shows that objects go straight down unless acted on by an outside force.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722

Observable nature for a fly caught in a centrifugal apparatus will show that objects go sideways, does this make the fly's understanding accomplished and veritable making this conclusion?

There is a force, or not. No-one will be able to prove it or disprove it.
Simonleluk  (OP)

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04/30/2022 01:12 PM
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....
The angle to the sun at high noon.....as seen from each degree of latitude.....
Its unwavering steady size and speed as you track it on a gimbal fixed to your latitude....

The opposing rotation of the stars north and south of the equator.....their predictably rise or fall in proportion to degrees of latitude traveled....

There is nowhere over a flat surface you can put the sun or stars that will result in the same angles that have been observed for thousands of years all over the planet.....only a circular curve can account for it....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

The horizon dropping below eye level as you rise in altitude.....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....
Things you can do in your backyard.....or hiking up a mountain trail with a water level......or renting a boat and sailing a few miles out.....
Or....at the most extreme.... driving a thousand miles north or south from your current latitude....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....then you must concede that everything we see in the sky is some kind of magical hologram......diabolically engineered to adjust to each viewers unique perspective....with the sole purpose of deceiving every1 into thinking we're standing on the surface of a sphere....

i see you are just copying and pasting this flimsy argument on all flat earth threads now! its very easy to see the stars rotate around us, have you seen the time lapse recordings, also what is seen in the southern area is a 6 and in the north a 9. its a large flat plane we are on and everything cannot be seen from everywhere
Quoting: 11Pythagoras11

You don't think that it's odd that the stars rotate in one direction in the northern hemisphere and another direction in the southern hemisphere? If we were just turtles stuck under a bowl of a retarded terrarium, you think we would all observe the stupid terrarium bowl rotating the same direction.
Quoting: Simonleluk

the hemi"sphere" is the area above our heads, where the stars are that go around our flat plane, much like our local sun and moon, in circles, yes that bit is round, just not like a ball. how is it possible on a ball to see the stars going in both directions. where is a picture from any of our telescopes of the ball with zoom capability to see upside people swimming in australia, but we have cgi pictures of red stuff and fluff , trillions of light years away as galaxies collide. as for ships sailing over the horizon, is that the curve of the earth because degrass tyson says we can't see the curve , even from where branson went in his fanny mobile. zoom in on the ships and you see them again. if you watch someone from ground level walking on a football field , the bottom of their feet start to disappear around the halfway line, this is not the curving earth, just perspective.
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Sunsets and sunrises....moonrise and moonsets.....

Ships sailing over the horizon.....buildings and mountaintops peeking over the horizon....

These are all simple observations that prove the curvature of Earth.....

If you still wish to insist the earth is flat....
Quoting: 11Pythagoras11

It all points to that, that earth is a plain.

Earth's magnetic field could never exist on ball.

Your compass needle would always point into the void of space because the compass is level with the surface you're standing on, and the so-called curvature of the ground all around-and-afar curves underneath you and so the compass needle would be pointing into space/atmosphere and that's not where the magnetic north is-located on Pinocchio's spherical earth.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79628116

exacually.
if you point your compass north and head opposite direction on this plane you will come to antartica wall of ice.
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04/30/2022 01:16 PM
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if only we knew what was on the other side the firmament, then we could start to discuss some proper interesting things. as we live on a plane, proven by the fact water is always level, no one is able to show that we are moving or spinning, simple math shows there is no curve.
but maybe on the other side of the antartica ice wall there are other lands, extra territorys ,other peoples. this is an interesting topic, but so hated and ...not this thread again, retards etc, but offers the most interesting line of conversation. i wish we could take this interesting subject to the next level of discussion.
Quoting: Simonleluk

The next level of the conversation can be had when you learn the earth is round. Fucking retard
trolls vs bots - we live in a scifi world
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if only we knew what was on the other side the firmament, then we could start to discuss some proper interesting things. as we live on a plane, proven by the fact water is always level, no one is able to show that we are moving or spinning, simple math shows there is no curve.
but maybe on the other side of the antartica ice wall there are other lands, extra territorys ,other peoples. this is an interesting topic, but so hated and ...not this thread again, retards etc, but offers the most interesting line of conversation. i wish we could take this interesting subject to the next level of discussion.
Quoting: Simonleluk

The next level of the conversation can be had when you learn the earth is round. Fucking retard
Quoting: Strate8

great addition to the conversation......and your proof that we are round or moving is.......
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