Jesus is not the son of God because Jesus is God, please discuss

They make many mistakes.
One of which is identifying who Jesus actually is in their own book.

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He is both. Our God is Elohim...look up what that means. He is God but in 3 persons. Honestly unless you let Jesus in your heart and have the Holy Spirit teach and guide you you won't get it.

wait what.

Indoctrinated fool, sit on the sidelines and watch lest you make any more mistakes.

How can he be fully God if he was born of a human mother.
At most he can only be a demi-god.

A demigod or demigoddess is a part-human and part-divine offspring of a deity and a human.

I am my own grandfather!

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If in your belief, Jesus, a human being born of a human mother, is God The Creator of All Is, that is blasphemy.
If however, you have given the name ‘Jesus’ to God The Creator of All that Is, and do not believe God is or ever was a human, that is not blasphemy. It is simply a name change.

John said denying that Jesus is the literal Son of God is "antichrist".

The trinity "jesus" claims that Jesus is the same rank/position/entity as the Father.

The trinity is antichrist.

Jesus said point blank who God is.

John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Eternal life is to have the Father and the Son.

You have a family last name, right? You are both the son or daughter of that name, but also are that name, people know you by your first name but also by your surname. It’s not a separation, yet it is independence. Jesus is the son, who also is God and also the Holy Spirit.

God is the creator of all things in the universe. Show me 1 thing that Jesus "the son of God" created. The answer is NOTHING. There is only 1 God entity. Jesus is a creation of God, who was also a prophet like hundreds of other prophets like Moses, Abraham etc.

STOP WITH YOU BS STORY THAT JESUS IS SON GOD BECAUSE HE IS NOT!!!

He is not God, he was simply elevated by God to have divine status.

Would you prefer God come as a burning bush?!

Now Thomas, called the Twin, one of the twelve, was not with them when Jesus came.

The other disciples therefore said to him, "We have seen the Lord." So he said to them, "Unless I see in His hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into His side, I will not believe."

And after eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, "Peace to you!"

Then He said to Thomas, "Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing."

And Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!"

Jesus said to him, "Thomas, because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book;

but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.


John 20:24-31






While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,

saying, “What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He?” They said to Him, “The Son of David.”

He said to them, “How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying:

‘The LORD said to my Lord,
“Sit at My right hand,
Till I make Your enemies Your footstool”?

“If David then calls Him ‘Lord,’ how is He his Son?”

And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.


Matthew 22:41-46


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Here has always been my take on it.

In the 'beginning' refers to the opening of this physical dimension it was dark because it didn't exist until GOD spoke it into existence by a word.

That word had immense energy, energizes the atoms into movement that forms everything you see and feel and think today.

We, cannot create nor can we destroy energy, we can only change it's form.

That same energy came to Man in the form of the 'Burning Bush', in order to directly communicate with His creation and to give them rules to live and be judged by.

Man is stubborn and though the 'Wages of Sin' is death still the people were sinning.

The 'Word's Energy' then took the next step, to live among them through the 'Energy' occupying the space in the Ark of the Covenant. Still the people sinned and sought foreign gods.

Why, he must have thought. For he did know Lucifer's nature and that he really was just a speck and already sentenced for his betrayal.

So the next logical step would be, to Walk in our own shoes, among us touching us feeling our pain suffering, and of course to feel the temptation to sin.

Remember that Christ himself prayed to the Father and encouraged, no commanded us to do the same.

He said himself that 'He was the first of many brethren, who would follow him'.

We, cannot create nor can we destroy energy, we can only change it's form.

The big question is, what form will you take with Energy of God's word that was freely given? You just have to believe.


Christianity, is the only religion on Earth that states that The judge actually walked in our shoes to be justified in our Judgment.

Now some might say, well what about all the condemned souls that existed with out the forgiveness associated with acknowledging Christ as the way to the Father.

I have a solution/theory for you. There are a finite number of Angels, there are a finite number of souls.

Don't quote me on this, but I feel we are about to be all here for the final graduation ceremony. There have been some really bad souls in the distant past who may indeed be among us now, in places of power.


There is a final test coming for every soul and we are all going to have choose.

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The Creator, known to us as Jehovah God, is a Triune makeup.

There are those who rebel against this fact, although Holy Scriptures clearly back this up.

We call this a 'Trinity' of Unity ... none of the Triune members of the Godhead are 'superior' to another.
They are Co-Equal.

When we say 'God', we are referring to the Trinity in Unity.

Therefore, as the Scriptures tell us, Jesus became flesh and dwelt among us.

People make too much of the fact that Jesus called to His Father .. as if Jesus is somehow a 'lesser' God, as the Son.

All 3 (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are God AND are indivisible, thus are inseparable.

MANY will miss salvation, being broken against the Cornerstone Rock (Jesus Christ), because of their insistence upon Him being something less than God.

Here's one of those lunatics now ...

The Bible says “ NO man comes to The FATHER, but through The SON!!”

And it also says “ Do not cast your Pearls ( of Wisom) before Swine, Because they will Trample them under their feet.”

My People Perish for lack of knowledge! They chose NOT The Truth , But a lie and will be damned for it …

Jesus went to Hell a few years ago and is no longer with us in Heaven. Not only is Jesus not God, he is also not á god, like the olympian gods.

Then your dispute is with the Word of God:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men."


Scriptures say clearly that the One we call Jesus (the Word of God) created EVERYTHING.

So now you will cast aspersion upon the veracity of the Bible, the Word of God.

Change your tune, son .. or death will not be pleasant for you.

On the contrary.


You have what Paul warned would be the "another" jesus, gospel and spirit.

"For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him."


Paul was speaking about you and all who are deceived by the trinity of babylon.

Again, your neanderthalish opinion is smashed by the Word of God:


"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God."

Jesus can be both.

The lunatic prattles on and will attempt to derail this truth and this thread.

Go to Hell, demon.

Its okay bud. I also rejected the truth for a season. God is merciful to those in "innocent" ignorance.

But you would be wise to not remain in that state as probation is closing.

Soon you will make the eternal choice between the gods and laws of the papal little horn, or the God of Creation and His Law.

the real problem here is that you consider any of this important.

Jesus was an avatar for God to walk the Earth in human form.

So is everyone else.

We are individuals but we are all connected to God.

We are his children.