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A Voice Track From An Elite Bloodline Insider

 
William
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To Ac 96664

Most likely you are a simultaneous incarnate.

There are astral entities all around this planet. Most likely one of them decided to engage an attack on you for some reason. The famous entity that emanated from you to repel the attack was you in another time period. That it came to your rescue, gives you a glimpse of the special abilities a simultaneous Higher Self has.

Simultaneous incarnating and re-incarnation is a little tricky to understand. What most people think is re-incarnation is actually simultaneous incarnating. Most of the Elite and other incarnates in the galaxy (Billions of Them) go through a process of re-incarnation. It is what they understand well and have virtually no clue about the simultaneous path.

The difference between the two paths is this. A Higher Self on the re-incarnation path projects ONE stream of energy in to the Milky Way and animates a body. When that body dies, the stream shifts over to animate another body and on and on it goes. That higher self gathers its experiences one by one and retains memories of past incarnations. A very slow way to develop from a simultaneous point of view.

When a Higher Path chooses and switches from the re-incarnation path to the simultaneous path, all access to memories of previous re-incarnations are blocked. Now that Higher Self begins with a clean slate (No baggage carryover). The simultaneous Higher Self projects multiple streams of energy (Hundreds or Thousands) to animate bodies in a huge variety of situations and astrological combinations on ONE PLANET, all at the same moment. The simultaneous Higher Self is not limited by time, as time is simply another frequency.

The one planet at a time in the galaxy that is chosen to host the simultaneous path has the features built in, to easily move through time. However only a simultaneous path Higher Self is capable of using these features. You should by now be able to get an idea of why the simultaneous path is the FAST TRACK to GRADUATION. Hundreds or thousands of incarnations at the same moment as opposed to one by one.

It is true, a simultaneous pather does not have the technical, genetic and military knowledge. Simply because on Earth it was not a big part of life until recently with mass communications. However true growth is spiritual as complete mastery of your lightside/Darkside nature and the many combinations of Astrological signs is the Ultimate.
You need this mastery in order to function in higher densities. Technical, Genetic and Military knowledge is a 3-d with some carryover to 4-d event. Where the graduated simultaneous Higher Self is headed will make 3-d, 4-d experiences look like kindergarten.

Hope this helps

William
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To William,

Yes, your explanation makes sense, but don't know if everything applies to me. If I may, I have more specific questions concerning your post.

1)You mentioned, "special abilities a simultaneous Higher Self has". What kind of "special abilities" would I know about? I am able to do strange things at times, but I prefer to minimize them.

2)During the "attack" mentioned before, I may have struck the attacker and the entity retreated surprisingly purposely. What kind of damage might have occurred - the physical person definitely was on the defensive when we met. That person acted as if defeat had NEVER occurred previously.

3)If "time" is not a limitation, how would it manifest itself in my life - there are things I can perceive in the future, but more a logical conclusion, rather than "visions"

4)You mentioned that there are "Hundreds or thousands of incarnations". What would my relationship be to them in this present reality, and does my actions here affect there action in the distant past or future? There is a common link to that "entity" that emanated during the confrontation.

5)If there are "Hundreds or thousands of incarnations", would there be a connection to all of them, would they be organized in any way, shape or form?

6)You mentioned that even the "elite" do not have the ability to "simultaneous path Higher Self". Is this ability so special, or are there many like this here on Earth now? Why would a Higher Self pick the "simultaneous path", going into a situation completely blind and capable of countless errors and pitfalls?

I really appreciate your answer, for I have been "questing" for an answer. Your comment struck a note.
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Hello Insider.

Sorry for my english...i am a russian.

A have a question: last night a was first time here this tape and after that when i was relax, thiking about all this, pronouncing Daah Aaaleem in my head and focused on nothing i saw that thigth around me(like box for my clothes, walls)starting to....breath or some thing like that...like our chest when we breath goes big when we breath in and goes small when we breath out..
Is this symptoms of opening Third Eye or its just my imagination? Please tell me, becase i felt other symptoms like pressure, slight pain and small dizziness in the center of the forehead and something like small waves of blur air that disappears quickly, but no small lights...
And other question is i have a bad sight(i am a short-sighted) is this has no efeect on seeing small lights if the black background is far(not so far but not closey) or i need to have a black background closely to me?

In advance thanks
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To William,

Yes, your explanation makes sense, but don't know if everything applies to me. If I may, I have more specific questions concerning your post.

1)You mentioned, "special abilities a simultaneous Higher Self has". What kind of "special abilities" would I know about? I am able to do strange things at times, but I prefer to minimize them.

2)During the "attack" mentioned before, I may have struck the attacker and the entity retreated surprisingly purposely. What kind of damage might have occurred - the physical person definitely was on the defensive when we met. That person acted as if defeat had NEVER occurred previously.

3)If "time" is not a limitation, how would it manifest itself in my life - there are things I can perceive in the future, but more a logical conclusion, rather than "visions"

4)You mentioned that there are "Hundreds or thousands of incarnations". What would my relationship be to them in this present reality, and does my actions here affect there action in the distant past or future? There is a common link to that "entity" that emanated during the confrontation.

5)If there are "Hundreds or thousands of incarnations", would there be a connection to all of them, would they be organized in any way, shape or form?

6)You mentioned that even the "elite" do not have the ability to "simultaneous path Higher Self". Is this ability so special, or are there many like this here on Earth now? Why would a Higher Self pick the "simultaneous path", going into a situation completely blind and capable of countless errors and pitfalls?

I really appreciate your answer, for I have been "questing" for an answer. Your comment struck a note.
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I am going attempt to give you a few answers. But for much more clarity on this subject, I suggest you go to
www.trufax.org/Matrix5 . I myself have processed and comprehended a great deal of the information, but I am not the ultimate source. You need to read the books themselves.

1) You most likely would not be consciously aware of these abilities in your waking state. I say most likely, but that would depend on what position you are in your higher self.

2) Yes they would be surprised when encountering an advanced earther simultaneous incarnation. They are used to dealing with an earther who rolls over easy for their attacks. Due mainly to genetic programming of the body.
By the way, most of those astral entities you encounter are Higher Selfs on the re-incarnation path. They are in a holding pattern, residing on 4-d waiting for the right time to incarnate in 3-d. Many of them are also allies of their counterparts(elite)here on earth. Occult rituals with different geometric patterns, sounds, etc. allow easier access points for 4-d astral to influence 3-d. Now you know why occult rituals are practised. The elite here on earth are calling on their counterparts to assist them.

3) Your brain is wired to think in a logical sense, hence linear.

4)& 5) All incarnations are connected in the Higher Self to each other. What one incarnation learns can be adapted and passed on to another incarnation. Sort of a group learning atmosphere. But it is structured very uniquely. For better info on the structure and how everything ties together I suggest you go to Matrix 5

6)The numbers here on earth are very small in comparison to the population. Exact numbers are hard to say. Guesses put it at around 15%. The number is so low primarily due to overbreading (Genetic Progamming). There are only X number of Simultaneous Higher Selfs and they only need X number of bodies. The vast majority of the population are what is termed minions. Their Higher Self is the planetary spirit. Sort of a default thing. When a body is born, if it is not animated by a Simultaneous or Re-Incarnating Higher Self, the default will be the planetary spirit. The elite and their alien controllers stepped up the breeding to cause this massive number of minions. The reason is minions are relatively easy to control and push in the direction they want. Their inherant nature is to act in wave(herd)patterns due to the spirit stream animating the body. The planetary spirit experiences in waves, school of fish, flock of birds, herds of animals, row of trees, garden of flowers, etc. Now you know why the Earth suddenly has 6.5 Billion people. A minion cannot control the bodies genetic programming to breed like rabbits.

As far as why a Higher Self goes blindly in to the simultaneous path. What you have to understand is, that Higher Self was previously on the re-incarnation path for eons of time. Once it has reached a certain level of awareness by observing, interacting etc. it knows it is caught in a never ending loop and going no where. It knows there must be more. In the quest of searching for more, it becomes aware of the simultaneous path. The rules for participation are a blocking of memories and abilities gathered previously. The decision to participate will be refused by many Higher Selfs, but for the ones who decide to venture in to the unknown, although the challenges will be great, the rewards will be spectacular. Upon Graduation, a return of all memories and a move on to new and greater experiences.

William
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Oops, forgot to put in my handle, the above message is from me.

William
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To William,

Thank you very much for giving me a "viable" lead.

When I was asking about numbers, I was referring to the number of incarnates directly connected to me like the "entity" who fought the other "entity". Is it possible there are incarnates connected to me in the hundreds on this present world? It seems so, or I have sensed this. The reason I ask is that I have been able to accomplish things that would require many talented people. It was that "saber battle" that indicated that I was doing things for a larger purpose than normal. It's as if I am here to do something, to shield the average "entities" from something. What that is, is not clear.

That "entity" that emanated from me would relish, encourage impossible challenges, battles just for the heck of it.

Again, thank you. I will explore "simultaneous path Higher Self" in the near future.
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Hello again Insider.

I am Anonymous Coward 454468

I have another question: after second day of meditation,sometimes i see some small transparent bubbles in the air, they appear from nowhere,fly by and disappear...
can you tell me what is this? because I saw them before(I began to see them about half year or a year ago) but exactly before I began my meditations.
please come back Insider I need your answers about all this...
P.S.:my name is Denis(to facilitate intercourse).

In advance thanks

Denis
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(i try to speake with translator - from Russian)


2Insider

Whether you are familiar with System of the Fourth Way? In your answers (I about the first occurrence) a lot of similar to its essence. What can you tell about Georgi Ivanovich Gurdzhiev (the Teacher of the Fourth way)?

Natasha
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Zdrostwitya Natasha,

The man you are asking about is spelled like this in English --

George Ivanovitch Gurdjieff

I hope he answers your question.

Robert
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To William,

Thank you very much for giving me a "viable" lead.

When I was asking about numbers, I was referring to the number of incarnates directly connected to me like the "entity" who fought the other "entity". Is it possible there are incarnates connected to me in the hundreds on this present world? It seems so, or I have sensed this. The reason I ask is that I have been able to accomplish things that would require many talented people. It was that "saber battle" that indicated that I was doing things for a larger purpose than normal. It's as if I am here to do something, to shield the average "entities" from something. What that is, is not clear.

That "entity" that emanated from me would relish, encourage impossible challenges, battles just for the heck of it.

Again, thank you. I will explore "simultaneous path Higher Self" in the near future.
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I do not know how many are directly connected to you, most likely 1500 to 2000. They are not all existing on this present time line. It is possible you may have another on this time line, but most likely they are all on different time lines then you.

That you can accomplish many talents would seem to indicate you are a dominant or the final incarnation of your higher self. The DOMINANTS and the FINAL incarnation can pull from the talents of all the incarnations.

Again I suggest you go to Matrix 5 for much more clarity
and yes it would love impossible challenges as your Higher Self thrives on complexity.

William
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to William

you are free to differ,

there is no simultaneous incarnation as i said before,

and no YOU have the cards and you decide to awaken yourself, there is no "higher" self that will awaken you, you must do this yourself,

again, waiting uselessly is foolish.

to Sasha

another dead end. there is accurate information there but very distorted.

to Dim M

the information is not from my parents they wish me dead.

yes if the population became 0 every one may be free.

to Curious

shamanism is an occult tradition but many abuse it as a reason to take drugs.

to Anonymous 96664

the first was your inner imaginaion and the second was a telepathic projection,

but yes being able to enter your pastlife memories is linked to reincarnation.

to Anonymous 447602

no i don't know about the system of the fourth way nor Georgi Ivanovich Gurdzhiev.

to kenny

slight pain and pressure in your forhead is a symptoms of opening the third eye, and yes seeing the air in waves of blurs is another symptom,

no to see the pixels and focus on it you don't need a black background, but it helps when you try to see the auras, if you are short-sighted then have it near you.

now about the bubbles in your eye is liquid that may have these bubbles especially when you focus,

this may be the etheric surroundnigs or your eyes.

i will post again when i can
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Happy solstice to you Insider and all.



Onward and upward.
Dim M
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06/21/2008 10:39 AM
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Can i join your organization?

why don`t you answered my question about proof of reincornation and all facts about other world and high wit.
have you this proof or not?
William
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EBI

Yes we do differ greatly. There is simultaneously incarnated. But you have to mature to a certain point to begin your search. The power structure you are associated with has you in a loop and under THEIR CONTROL.

I agree waiting uselessly for something to happen is foolish, but also jumping to fast in to something is also foolish. IMO, it is always best to be prepared as possible.

When I say your Higher Self has all the cards. I am saying your Higher Self will prepare you so when the time is right, you will have the confidence to enter the astral realm fully alert and able to handle yourself.

William
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Hey Insider. i tried the voicetrack and nothing really happened except my eyes began to twitch and tear up, am i on the right path? any suggestions? i really want to get this to work
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to An Elite BloodLine Insider:
tell me please do you know Russian lang.? And still it would be interesting to me to learn whom you consider as the enemies?
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and i finally finished reading the whole thread so i have many questions.

What should i do when the war you're talking about comes?

When you say to listen to the voicetrack using headphones do you mean like ones that cover your whole ear or are ipod headphones alright?

I hate to admit it but i am very impatient and i tend to lose "will power" quickly, i say i'll stop eating junk food and then within 2 days i'll do it with out thinking and then just continue eating it, but it seems those really are my only options of eating seeing as i don't buy the groceries. Do you have any suggestions to improving my "will power"? these things are so fascinating but it seems i lose patience and i just don't continue with them.


Also i have learned methods to astral project during my dreams but i can't get through the first step of realizing i'm in my dream, i now can remember dreams easily but nothing further. also your method of astral projection i'd like to try but i don't really understand what you say to do with your eyes, its seems like a vital part of the process, mayb its just me that can't understand directions clearly but could you clarify that step of the process?

And some more clarification on the whole bloodline thing, were you born into a bloodline that is known like for ex. the bushes? and then you "rebelled" and became an insider or is the bloodline you were born into insiders and are you and the other EBI that came in 2 years previous part of a small rebelling group within the insider bloodline? so does your "rebelling group" "conduct" the orchestra or is thatt the job of the insiders you rebelled from? sorry if this sounds confusing.

And also the other night i had a dream in which a little 7 year old boy (don't know how i knew he was 7 but i just knew) (it was at my cottage btw) was an insider and i had asked him questions pertaining to the insider that was here 2 years prior, the other insider mentioned "one core truth in a sea or perversions" in "holy" books so i asked him if it was the same truth in each "holy" book or if they had different truths, is that true? and do dreams have meaning to them like the one i had last night, i believe you mentioned this before but i don't remember and looking back into the 20 pages might take a while haha. Also would you recommend reading these ancient "holy" text books or would i get "trapped" and steer away from what you and the other insider taught us to be.


Ya, a lot of questions but i would greatly appreciate a response.

and if you dont mind me asking why the long absences?
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to Dim M

i can't answer this question,

and no i am not here to proove reincarnation, people who can get you your pastlife memories can proove it to you, i can't.

to William

no the confidence to enter the astral realm is something you should summon not something a higherself will get to you when the time is "right".

again waiting uselessly to have the courage is foolish, you can summon the courage from inside you.

to Dmitriy rus

i don't know russian, as for the enemies i can't answer this.

to Curious

yes something is happening if your eyes twitch, try the headphones that cover your whole ear and viberates in your head, the important thing is the viberation.

the junk food part is not necessary, i put it there because people who love diets asked.

yes you can try to enforce your willpower by trying a part of a process and stopping then not backing further than this part, you can hesitate to do a new part but no backing away further than the part you did, then trying again until you do a new part and not backing further than it.

now about the eye part,

try rolling your eye upwards while having your eyelids open,

then try to roll them both closer to the venter of the forhead or between your eyes while they are rolled upwards,

then close your eyelids and do it like i said before.

and i am sorry i can't answer about the bloodline part.

the holy books have one core truth but they will get you trapped, i wouldn't read them without my guard on.

dreams have no meaning to these books except when they are mentioned as visions to their prophets.

the absences are my own business to mind but i can't post every day and i can't stay here forever.

i will post again when i can.
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Hi there...

Here are my questions:
1) What was the reason of joining this forum?
2) Which real care you have about "pedestrians" of this forum?
3) What kind of "message" you wanna share and WHOM exactly?
4) Whom you working on?
5) When and how some kind of "understanding" of your rolestatus came to you and how? (i mean, is is your parents came to you some day and told ya, that you are a special kid or may be you saw something in kind of "visions")
6) What do you expect from people, from pedestrians, whom you trying to share some info here, on GLP? Would you like to lead them? If yes, then WHERE? If no, read question number 3
7) What about your life, your relations, may be GIRLFRIEND, or if you haven't it, what you thinking about it? What is "relations", what for people need it?

8) Do you know, who asking you all of this questions? I am asking, because i believe, i have never less reasons calling my "family" special in same way like you did...

9) What kind of "role" in future, you think, your "special family" expect from you?

If you find some of these questions too personal or just interested to talk with me in more private way - i can give my icq later...

10) Why you think, you connected with a number "13"?? btw, the whole life i was associating this number with ME... i know, how and when i found that WAY... and it was NOT in this "multidimentional Universe"... and VERY long "time" ago (by "time" i mean experience getting process)

again, if you interested in continue dialogue - reply
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EBI

OK, it is time for me to leave this discussion. At this time you as the incarnation are not ready for simultaneous path knowledge. But perhaps just by reading the little bits of information I have given, it may trigger your Higher Self to begin a search or make the jump to simultaneous path when your current incarnation is finished.

Time is almost up here on planet earth, the graduation key is in place and the pace for graduation will be speeding up.
Soon, you will be seeing your associates and their alien controllers going in to panic mode.

I suggest you keep a very alert eye on them and watch their reactions as every technological attempt they try fails. Watch the pompous attitudes and excuses they make for failure. They will go back to the drawing board and try to analyse what went wrong and then try to correct it when they encounter the next simultaneous planet. Always thinking they just did not get it right and will adjust for the percieved flaws on the next planet.

This is a loop I suggest you do your best to break free from. For if you don't, you will be game 3-d, 4-d bound for a long time. Graduation is a feature only available to the simultaneous path. The creators of this galaxy game have designed it this way. No technical knowledge can help you graduate.

Occult knowledge is the key to graduation. But advanced knowledge that can be achieved by being on the simultaneous path only.

Take care and good luck in your spiritual search.

William
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longhair
where'd everybody go?
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to Qu1ck

1- the reason is that rebels take it in turn to provide a chance to the public to hear the truth so we puplish threads like this at certain places.

6- i expect nothing i merely share information for people who are researching these things nothing more or less, i am not a master to any one and i certainly don't want to lead any one.

to William

goodbye william.
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To Elite Bloodline Insider:

I will appreciate if you can answer my questions with your wisdom. I had an experience when demon possessed human body and i had little talk to demon and he sad that he wants our souls and something about hell and tried to scare us.
I should say that demon really did not liked Christian Our Father prayer.
What is the demon?
What is the reason for demon to possess human body?
What "hell" he was talking about?
And rhetorical: What is purpose of human existence?

Thanking you in anticipation
Alex
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to Anonymous 462225

very well then,

a demon is a spirit that resembles the chaotic unbalanced energies in the universe,

the creation was first chaotic and unbalanced then balance and order came,

lower demons are spirits that do chaotic and unbalanced things and is negative and follow the way of the chaos and unbalance, there are billions of them.

lower demons possess humans to create more havoc and chaos in their lives because this is their nature, but usually demons have a reason to possess humans more than merely creating havoc.

you should know that most possessions are done by magicians rather than demons.

and it was trying to scare you when mentioning hell, however on the astral there are places ruled by evil spirits and are called hells and are many places not one place, and there are heavens ruled by good spirits, the astral is the spirit world.

the purpose of human existence is evolution, that is humans are made to evolve.

i will post again when i can.
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Have a good July 4th Insider and all:

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Hello Insider. I have 2 questions for you:
1) If our world is prison, for what here (Possible reason)?
2) Population of earth grow very fast last 100 years, so number of prisoners grow very fast. Possible reason? War or somthing else?
P.S. Sorry, my english bad, i'm from Russia.
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Hello Elite Bloodline Insider

I would first like to thank you for your information, I have attempted to heal an injury on myself using your techniques and it has shown some amazing progress, as well as I have seen slight sparks etc. in opening the 3rd eye.

But I find myself losing a fear of committing suicide, as I have been very unhappy with my life and the one thing keeping me from doing it was the fear of going to hell etc.

I was wondering if you could tell me (hypothetically)--given that you don't know what else is involved with my life etc.---as a base rule, what happens to suicides in detail if you don't mind.

Thanks again and great work, you have put much work into this and I have thought about it and you quite often.
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Hello, Elite Bloodline Insider.

Nice voice track. I have to you a question. What do you know about the Messiah and the Antichrist? Whether you on them have own plans? If yes, what? They are already found by you or other persons? Whether also it is necessary to trust prophecies?
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Hello,

thank you and former insider for sharing lore here, I would like to ask some questions:

Is it true that nowdays year should be 260 days instead of 36x?

Not so long ago I've started to have strange feeling above my head(especially when I explain something to someone), my сonsciousness is very unfocused during that time. This feeling is different from "enlightenment" one. I have few ideas about this situation, can you give your opinion and recommendations based on it?

Were the meanings of 4 gods(mater, energy(information?), space and time), represented in Amun, were made that way on purpose to hide real basic categories or Priests really thought that way? And which categories are basic for you?

What can you tell about materialization?

Thank you.
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07/08/2008 09:11 PM
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