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All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.

 
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All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.

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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
That was in the old days. Now people are supposed to love one another and enjoy life.
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
That was in the old days. Now people are supposed to love one another and enjoy life.
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Is the world growing up in peace on earth, good will towards everyone?
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
That was in the old days. Now people are supposed to love one another and enjoy life.
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It is further claimed that since the Bible gives examples of temporal punishment for sins a purgatory is implied; and for proof the examples of Moses, who was denied entry into the Promised Land, and David, whose first child by Bath-sheba died, are given. (Num. 20:12; 2 Ki. 12:13, 14, Dy; 2 Sam. 12:13, 14, non-Catholic versions) However, in the days of the Law arrangement not only were sins punished temporally but obedience was rewarded temporally. (See Leviticus, chapter 26.) But neither temporal blessings for right doing nor temporal punishment for wrongdoing is held out to Christians, but just the opposite at the hands of the ungodly. (Luke 6:20-26; 2 Tim. 3:12) Moses and David did not have recourse to the blood of Christ Jesus, nor is there any record that they suffered after death.
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
That was in the old days. Now people are supposed to love one another and enjoy life.
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It is further claimed that since the Bible gives examples of temporal punishment for sins a purgatory is implied; and for proof the examples of Moses, who was denied entry into the Promised Land, and David, whose first child by Bath-sheba died, are given. (Num. 20:12; 2 Ki. 12:13, 14, Dy; 2 Sam. 12:13, 14, non-Catholic versions) However, in the days of the Law arrangement not only were sins punished temporally but obedience was rewarded temporally. (See Leviticus, chapter 26.) But neither temporal blessings for right doing nor temporal punishment for wrongdoing is held out to Christians, but just the opposite at the hands of the ungodly. (Luke 6:20-26; 2 Tim. 3:12) Moses and David did not have recourse to the blood of Christ Jesus, nor is there any record that they suffered after death.
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Luke 6:
20 And he looked up at his disciples and began to say:
“Happy are you who are poor, for yours is the Kingdom of God.
21 “Happy are you who hunger now, for you will be filled.
“Happy are you who weep now, for you will laugh.
22 “Happy are you whenever men hate you, and when they exclude you and reproach you and denounce your name as wicked for the sake of the Son of man. 23 Rejoice in that day and leap for joy, for look! your reward is great in heaven, for those are the same things their forefathers used to do to the prophets.
24 “But woe to you who are rich, for you are having your consolation in full.
25 “Woe to you who are filled up now, for you will go hungry.
“Woe, you who are laughing now, for you will mourn and weep.
26 “Woe whenever all men speak well of you, for this is what their forefathers did to the false prophets.

2 Tim. 3
12 In fact, all those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
God is Love

That’s

The Truth

And

The Truth

Is

Jesus Christ

Absolute and perfect

The author of life everlasting

In which there is no suffering

Ever

However

As not to violate your freewill

If you choose to suffer

Go right ahead
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
God is Love

That’s

The Truth

And

The Truth

Is

Jesus Christ

Absolute and perfect

The author of life everlasting

In which there is no suffering

Ever

However

As not to violate your freewill

If you choose to suffer

Go right ahead
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God's gift is truly freedom of choice.
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
Amen Brother
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Re: All those desiring to live with godly devotion in association with Christ Jesus will also be persecuted.—2 Tim. 3:12.
Amen Brother
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Yes and;
“Happy are those who have been persecuted for righteousness’ sake, since the Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.
11“Happy are you when people reproach you and persecute you and lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against you for my sake. 12Rejoice and be overjoyed, since your reward is great in the heavens, for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to you.
13“You are the salt of the earth, but if the salt loses its strength, how will its saltiness be restored? It is no longer usable for anything except to be thrown outside to be trampled on by men.
14“You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. 15People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. 16Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens. Mt5:10





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