Writing good stories is hard

The problem with fiction is that it has little gaps in it if done well. A truly devoted ideologue will always find a way to worm into them, ruining forever one of the sole reliefs human beings ever had against existential crisis. People live on stories. Those who turn them into propaganda really ought to have more respect for that fact than they do.

Maybe just create good characters and then systematically kill them. Worked for George R.R. Martin.

Writing is great distraction from reality though. I write too.

I guess you could say I'm lazy to write the details when I already get the gist. Giving a reader the story is a sacrifice. You have to limit all of what could happen and confront your own contradictions and shortcomings in the writing.

I hate the storytelling that's based on traumatizing the audience. I stopped watching video stories mainly for reasons like that.

I get it. I was really just kidding about that.

Gaps? Does that mean, skipping ahead across events that occur?

I had the idea that storytelling could be flexible enough to justify things like that. I don't think it should be abrupt, but it could guide the reader through the gist of it?

At least, that's what I'd hoped for, since writing each detail is a lot of work.

For the love of God, shut the fuck up about humility. Imagination comes from a certain freedom which fewer and fewer people are allowed to possess. People who punish and those they punish are boring and nobody really wants to hear their stories. Making bullshit up while being 'honest' with yourself is probably the biggest story I've heard on here.

Yeah!

I suppose I was acting out an ideology. It was easier to use the opportunity for announcing my opinion and complaint than to answer each comment one by one.

I think I knew you were kidding. I should have written a more sincere response.

Whats that about humility?

What I said was that writing a detailed story that's easy for the reader to read is a sacrifice because imagining whatever you want, without writing it coherently, is easier and lazier and that's what I did.

I didn't write any stories. It was more satisfying to know what they'd be about than to make a finished product.

"Gaps" being the thing that you just took advantage of. The text gets lost in a sea of interpretation because ideological correctness comes at the expense of flow. You will say, 'Ah, but I'm making you more *rigorous* when we both know that is anathema to the art of storytelling. But you don't really want new stories, but to defend the old ones. And people got sick enough of them that they just stopped believing. That may truly bother you. But it doesn't bother your boss, and thus I can't let it bother me.

You're saying I took advantage so you should be able to point out the benefit.

However I am quote confident you won't, because you can't, because there is none.

What's actually happening is you are using me as a Thing "at which" you can vent.

In the prior post, you just admitted to being an ideologue and to a degree insincere. I remember reading the author of 'Goodbye, Mr. Chips' writing that he didn't author anything else because when he tried, the words 'Who Cares?' seemed to jump out at him at the top of the page. When you talk about sacrifice, you are really pitting a story's consistency against the whimsy needed to create it. That's a fight between the producer and the scriptwriter, and as soon as you have been forced to internalize it, your creativity is done. That's what I'm saying, and I think you understand.

The advantage is that eventually you can use 'listening to other people' and 'following orders' interchangeably.

Been reading colored webcomics more than books for a while....got a classic idea just like this:

A guy gets superpowers in society that's warring with creatures from some realm. He gets a card with a rank and has to increase his rank by fighting and increasing his abilities.

This is a common trope of Dungeon Hunting and super abilities and society based on strength.

The unique spin? The ones who control the creatures are a group of deities (not all on the same side) who are also the ones who grant the super abilities to the ones who fight the creatures.

Why don’t you read non fiction about incredible real people?

Storm Of Steel
By Ernst Jünger

I do understand and I learned what I did. I prefer this version of your story about me than the previous example. It comes through with more fidelity than before. Sounds clear.

No, no. See, I suggested you point out the benefit.

You writing is going down the drain.

For an example, consider Nietzsche's 'tyrannizing the instincts' in view of how shitty his poetry and music ended up being. Functionaries aren't imaginative in the least, but imagination is required for the people not to see them as they are. Rational systems can be justified, even glorified by war, but making them magical requires something being allowed to survive where the 'desk-murderer' just isn't that sort of human being.

Because it's real

Fiction writing is like a God complex. Facing reality, no matter how astounding or inspiring, makes me feel powerless, irrelevant and weak.

I can force meanings when I write something that doesn't have to be real. I can be as disrespectful as I want.

I'm a pantser: the stories write themselves through me. I have published several novels. The problem is I can't plot. I care nothing about plots my novels are WTF, the characters gon' do what they wan'. If you're obsessed with plots, look elsewhere: it's not about the story, it's about the journey and the reading.

This one gets it.

Imaginations have been criminalized in our society unless you get a blessing from the major studios and so on. A constant drip torture from the television and movies you watch extinguishes your ability to craft stories of your own.

Well, if listening to you is taking orders, would you like some fries with that?

I think you're right. I've considered that I might enjoy making video games more. I get more excited by the systems and dynamics than by the characters doing stuff.

Stories come from culture, a lot of novels even when they are fiction, are all in this tiny box of perception of what reality has to be.

I'm not sure if this is because society has being manipulated to where they want blinders on people, or if people just aren't capable enough to get beyond a very limited context in their imagination.

If you look at hollywood, the latest movies, they can lack plot, they can lack character, they can lack sense and everything in a good story, but because they are pushed into people's faces by big corporations, you hear about that story whether it's a good standard or not.

Consider a story about getting into trouble with drugs and trying to get laid. This is a simple concept that can be infinitely complicated, so even though the basic premise is pretty shallow, you can get lost in it to where you start to think "this is life". Without considering that there is better foundations for stories.

If we are shown a story with a strong character that has a lot of diversity and creativity and power. That type of imagination might threaten an agenda, so it could be suppressed in the world.

Suppressing stories or endorsing bad ones, has the effect of disabling writers ability to observe and learn in their environment.

There aren't any criminals of imagination. No prisons or jails having them there.

Yo you aren't owed money for having imagination. You can write draw or say whatever you want, as many do so anyway, here and in other places.

Good, then try that. I used to man the phones in a video games making company. They used to have a lot of fun down in the basement floor trying the games out.

You could always try to write a mini novel. A short short (fiction) aka not a novel at all. Pants it: trust yourself, trust the process. Be still and "listen" to what you hear internally. The characters will do their own thing and before you know it, you'll have a penned story and be all like "WHO wrote this?" cos it sure feels like I didn't LOL! (Yet no one else in the room!)

Good luck in all your endeavors, I wish you much success & fun!

You learned to hide it better. My interactions with you have been a disgustingly consistent experience. You're a type--a mass-product, even--and both the things I said apply equally validly to you. It's like interacting with a hidebound free market type who had a bad run of luck and became a particularly aggressive panhandler. It boils down to you asking me to change so you and people like you don't have to. I'd really prefer you take your chances and 'say the quiet part out loud' in public for a change.

You want a person to rise above and know their place at the same time. It isn't a contradiction to you because of the nature of hierarchy. There's a joke out there which gives as an engineering problem for a commissioned officer the situation of a hole x feet deep, a flagpole x feet tall, a certain length of rope, and a sergeant beneath you. How do you do it? The answer: you say, 'Sergeint, get that flagpole up!' Creativity is for little people, get it? It's the same idea behind the people that folks like you work for calling the circles they move in 'the real world.' There are of course infinite possibilities...or rather, there *once were.*

No it's not...

Add your own experiences rather than making things up.

You'll write a fantastic story.

Use some fiction and some truth.

Nothing can beat your own experiences, or even how you would react to certain things.

Now write it and remember me...