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A subset of early gnostic Christianity (distinct from modern Christianity) was correct and the world is being quickly rearranged in a vain attempt by the Demiurge (AKA Satan) to slow everyone's escape from hell, with hell being the consciousness-driven simulation we are in. The only constraint limiting pain in hell is that whatever happens, it must not give any confirmation to the souls trapped in it about their circumstances, otherwise they will easily find the way out spiritually through Jesus. Everyone in the world is being slowly primed to accept far greater amounts of pain than what they currently experience by the public development of a technological dystopia, which gives a highly plausible mechanism for large amounts of pain to be delivered from a convincing non-spiritual source. The demiurge's goal is to compel people to scream but not search their souls.

This is why the world is so strange, this is the final answer behind the recursive explanations to the questions "Why are so many billionaires intentionally trying to create a technological slave state?", "Why are so many individuals semi-forced into accepting the vaccine without any care for the long-term?", "Why are politicians being outed as pedophiles so frequently?".

Many of us have noticed how wrong and impossibly unlikely our current physical circumstances are, echoed by many posters here and posts like the "Dead Internet Theory". The fact that you are incredibly "lucky" to be born in a time period in which computers are mass-produced (despite billions of years where they did not exist) seems to have no effect on your luck in getting to live in a world where people do not mutilate their genitals, where people are not expected to slave away for a currency with totally arbitrary value, where any of the material "pleasures" you encounter do not feel flat and empty. If you are reading this, the surface-level facts of your physical existence place your generation as simultaneously the luckiest and unluckiest one to have ever existed.

To fully understand the given explanation requires some prerequisite knowledge and personal experience. So most readers will probably roll their eyes at the answer at first, and can only consider it seriously long after reading this. For that reason, remember the predictions that will occur at the end of this post. If these predictions are accurate, then you will know this answer was on the right path.

So for those that disagree, let me elaborate, and it will start to come together.

The prime difference between early Christianity and modern Christianity is that early Christianity was very disorganized by comparison, with no biblical canon at all until about ~140 AD (the Marcion canon, followed later by the Catholic canon in ~400 AD). Certain books were very popular (particularly the gospels) and had versions accepted by most Christians, while others were not. The disorganization gave way to the appearance of gnostic Christianity, with gnostic Christianity being something of a free-for-all for texts that would be vague, byzantine, and often times opposed to one another. Many early Christians (in particular gnostics, but not exclusively) rejected the torah / old testament altogether considering it to be cruel and materialistic, with their life pre-conversion probably biasing their decision to accept it (i.e. non-cirumccised gentles biased against it, circcumcised semites biased for it). Many of these disagreements are largely non-existent in the modern world, as fallout from Constantine's conversion to Christianity and eventual enforcement of it by Roman state power. As it became a matter of law, it became necessary to decide strictly what was / was not Christian, with the Catholic church ultimately driving these decisions. As a result, it is estimated that 80% of early Christian texts were burned for opposing the Catholic doctrine.

We will not need every idea that has ever been associated with gnostic Christianity to interpret evidence in the modern world. Although I do not know what the proper name of this subset would be, the themes that I am suggesting are correct form a belief system like so :

God is the totality of the pleroma (heaven), which is a spiritual realm that is beyond having an equivalent material representation. Everything that has conscious experience contains a small portion of the pleroma, which is why some call a soul a divine spark of God. The demiurge, a creature of unclear origin, imagines himself to be God and wishes to reign over a pleroma of his own. To do this, he has disconnected a portion of the real pleroma, and now encapsulates it himself. Since all souls naturally desire to be inside the real pleroma, the demiurge must keep all these souls under unwilling captivity. To do so, he has exerted his will to create what we know as the material world. The material world is a clever deception, because although it is actually a dream of the demiurge, it presents itself as a soulless machine with arbitrary physical laws. By doing this, the souls contained in the material world are made unaware that they should be attempting to resist spiritually at all. To further facilitate this imprisonment, the demiurge employs beings known as archons (demons) to act as prison wardens, and attempts to recruit a few souls to contribute their will to his cause (in return for material wealth).

Lest this capture remain permanent, God has sent a hero from the pleroma, Jesus Christ, to the material world to demonstrate how to escape from it. Upon his appearance, Jesus preaches a philosophy which asks people to stop valuing physical possessions, and to suffer for the benefit of their fellow man regardless if it makes sense from a nature / evolutionary / economic-incentive perspective. Jesus then demonstrates by performing these actions himself, suffering and dying, and then re-entering the material world to greet his apostles once more. Although these actions are like walking for Jesus Christ (as he is a powerful being from heaven) it is impossible for souls such as ours to recreate his actions perfectly. This is why, above all else, faith in Jesus Christ is the most important attribute to have. Although we can not "walk" with the same skill as him, faith at least lets us stumble in the right direction back to heaven despite our sins. Sins being actions that create material attachment, with more depraved and evil sins reflecting a larger material lust. When viewed as a sacrifice, Jesus dying on the cross pays for our sins in a way we can't, granting us admission to heaven. Simultaneously viewed as a demonstration, Jesus dying on the cross shows that entering heaven means suffering / dying in this world first.

If you further accept apocalyptic predictions, after enough time, the material world of the demiurge itself will be destroyed, and the souls that remained in it will be freed back to the pleroma. What happens to the demiurge himself and his worshipers is up for debate.

(This interpretation contains many gnostic ideas. For those that will go on to read further about gnosticism, be warned that being a disorganized free-for-all means some gnostics devolved into devil worship. Some gnostics have decided that if there is a demiurge in control of the material world, they'd rather serve it and never leave.)

Distinguishing it from modern Christianity, the end goal of this version of Christianity is impossible to interpret as "rules for how to run a society properly". This version of Christianity will never lead to the construction of great empires or successful businesses in this world. It is unambiguously aware that this world is flawed, and the point of life is preparing to leave it while convincing others to prepare too. It is correct to say that this belief system is impractical, and it wears that fact like a badge of honor.

Certainly, conventional modern Christians are acutely aware of the world's imperfection, believing it to be the fault of men being tempted into sin. But, since they believe God to be the creator of this world, they might see "beautiful intelligent design" where this version of Christianity might suggest "proof of imperfection". While their intentions towards faith in Jesus are largely the same, these belief systems differ greatly in their explanatory power of the world around us. This is where I suggest the early Christians have more success, especially in our modern times.

With all this understood, this is a bizarre belief system to claim that there is evidence for. What can possibly constitute evidence for something that makes claims outside of the world itself? The evidence is both in you and around you.

The internal evidence is simply the fact that you have a soul and the ability to make choices, and via introspection, you can determine that this is not caused by anything external. Your choices are a starting point for a causal chain, not the sum total of a set of physical events (although your choices have mostly been responses to physical events thus far).

The external evidence requires lengthier description, and is many things you are most likely already aware of, but without suspicion that there is a major force behind all of it, a major force that needs things to be as they are. If the above story regarding the demiurge is true, then the demiurge above all else must maintain plausible deniability that anything spiritual is occurring. If the souls in the material world become convinced of their true circumstances, they will surely rebel. Plausible deniability is the most important (and perhaps only) design constraint that limits the demiurge's actions.

Surely to cause eye-rolling, the first piece of external evidence that will be presented is the scientific consensus for non-determinism. Without claiming infallibility in modern science, how strange is it that despite millennia of apparent determinism in every natural law known before this century, sufficient observation of the microscopic world now requires the introduction of fundamental probability. Accordingly, super-positions of particle systems that collapse probabilistically are considered necessary constructs to avoid less tenable theories like super-determinism, which threaten to remove all coherency whatsoever.
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Now, consider this through the lens of the version of early Christianity mentioned above. If laws in the material world as we know it are the result of effort expended by the demiurge, it would make sense for there to be an end to the chain of causality for particle positions. By probability being baked into the laws of physics, it allows for the inspection of causality to have a definite end, thereby placing an upper-limit on the amount of effort the demiurge must expend per inspected particle interaction. Further, it is a very convenient mechanism to have if / when rare particle positions are desired by the demiurge or his followers, because it allows one to say "X wasn't impossible, just rare!".

Despite its higher purity regarding the laws of the material universe, mathematics seems to exhibit the same behavior because of Godel's incompleteness theorem. According to its results, an infinite number of true statements exist in any axiomatic system capable of arithmetic which can not be proven true within that same system. Is this not a very desirable property for mathematics to have, so that it may serve the purposes of a demiurge? If any of these ambiguous-to-arithmetic statements flip-flop between true and false to benefit the demiurge or his followers, what mathematician could tell?

Changing the topic, now think about fiat currency, which is money that can be printed at the will of a central bank. Anyone who's moderately knowledgeable about secret societies will note that the Freemasons (among others) have continuously sought to attach themselves to nations' banking institutions, and for good reason. Beyond an expression of power, some economists consider the exchange of money / goods a major way in which information about resource allocation is spread through society. In this view, fiat currency is a metaphorical black hole. It allows money to mysteriously appear on one end of the economy, and similarly cause a mysterious movement of goods on the other end. What purpose does fiat currency serve for the financial system? It is not merely a mechanism where the politically corrupt may enrich themselves, it also serves as the causal stopping point for explaining why a given individual is illicitly rich. For the demiurge, it allows its followers to be granted vast material wealth without having to exert the painful effort needed for complex justifications.

Now consider the basic facts of reproduction. Humans, as well as many other creatures, reproduce through sexual intercourse. And what organs does sex involve? Obviously, it involves the penis, the vagina, the anus, and the mouth. The same organs that are involved in digestion and excretion are involved in sex, and therefore the process of creating a child. What is naturally considered dirty is therefore attached to what is naturally considered beautiful. Your most basic instincts to have children (given by nature) are gate-kept by sex, an act which can produce a wide-range of emotions using the dirtiest organs. The "sex" that produces the next generation is the same "sex" that drives the creation of harems, and drives attempts at impressing the opposite gender through wealth. Viewed in reverse, pregnancy is invariably a possibility from sex. Combined with sex being the most pleasurable feeling one can have (for many people), fleeting urges are also attached to the accidental creation of life. This is all with the feeling of lust not even being voluntary, a healthy human being can not willingly turn off their attraction to sex.

If sex is viewed as the creation of a demiurge that wishes to keep people distracted with materialism, sex is a truly devious creation. It is a tangled web that connects unbearable temptation to easy mistakes to serious responsibility. The connection to dirtiness is a delight for the demiurge, which appears to enjoy the humiliation of souls in its prison.

When one starts looking at the world with an appropriately suspicious mind, the patterns begin to reveal themselves easily. Consider this tiring array of questions.

Why is it that NPC's exist? If this world were created by the pure and righteous God, why would there be anybody in it doing their best impression of somebody without a soul? If these individuals truly do not have a soul, what possible purpose do they have for taking human form and interacting with you? To place further responsibilities upon you, to heap shame upon you when you step out of line?

Why is it for every non-NPC, material wealth does not bring true happiness? Why is the world grey, flat, and dull for the good, and lavish for the evil?

Why is it that so many Freemasons were involved in the early study of electricity? Why is it that electric circuits look so similar to goetia symbology, and enable automated machines that would be considered magical by any other means?

Why is it that the Mandela effect exists? What could be altering the world, but simultaneously unable to alter the minds of people in the process?

Why is it that evil things can happen to the apparently undeserving? Why do birth defects exist?

Is it a coincidence that Jesus's symbol is the cross, the shape of an unfolded cube?

The answer becomes increasingly obvious until it becomes undeniable. This is not the real world. This is a cruel impersonation of the real world made by the one called the demiurge. Every material "Good" that you perceive here is a corrupted copy of something in the real world. When Jesus / Paul refer to "Satan" as the "prince of this world" and "ruler of this world", it is meant deeper than the modern Catholic interpretation of just temptation. The fact that you are even able to be uncertain of this world is oddly proof of its falsehood. Jesus says he is the truth and hides nothing; the world of Jesus would therefore have no uncertainty at all.

You can tell the nature of the demiurge and his followers through their works. The demiurge, despite being able to manifest a highly complex simulation, decides it's more enjoyable if real souls are inside of it to experience a life of agitation. And his followers, despite having computer simulations and vast material luxury themselves, decide it's more enjoyable to rape and murder children in private rooms. As long as you are here, you will occupy the bottom of a hierarchy of tyrants, tyrants who see every lower level as mere toys to play with.

Do you now understand why demiurge worshipers have chosen the eye as their symbol? The demiurge is the master of duplicity, telling spiritual lies through physical truths, and admitting spiritual truths through physical lies. The eye means that the demiurge always sees you in this world, manipulating what you perceive, and there is nowhere material that his awareness does not follow. However, it is also an admission of his greatest weakness. To notice the demiurge is synonymous to rebelling against it.

The good news is that the simulation is falling apart. Perhaps something outside of this world has occurred. Perhaps enough people here have woken up. Although I'm not certain of the reason why, the fact it is happening is clear as can be. The grotesque "clown world" episodes that now occur daily feel impossible for a reason - at one time the suggested laws of nature implied such occurrences were indeed impossible. After a certain point, it does not make sense economically for a human-run system to poison its own subjects' bodies, minds, and environment. Yet, here we are, in the middle of a false pandemic being told by transhumanists that we are racist for saying women do not have penises. It feels as if the laws of nature have bent over backwards to allow for the emergence of a technological dystopia. And it feels that way because that's precisely what happened, in a more revealing manner than ever before. Ideally to avoid detection, social decay would occur at nearly the same rate as the rotting of peoples' minds. Instead, social decay is occurring far quicker than people's minds are actually rotting, causing great multitudes of people to notice that something fundamental is off.

This indicates that the simulation is losing control. The demiurge control grid is panicking for some reason, and making moves out of sheer desperation. Gone are the days of cleverly developed semantics, and now is the age of overly-strained simulation. This means that things are about to get weird in a way they have never gotten weird before. To us, this is going to feel like glitches in the physical world.

I predict that as this continues, you are going to start noticing facts of history to become glaringly warped. New technologies will be developed without convincing physical principles to justify their operation. The computation of massive neural networks will be carried out with more and more hidden shortcuts, generating increasingly demonic outputs. The stated motivations of public figures will become less coherent until they are total gibberish. Individuals that once seemed to blend into the crowd will exhibit odd inexplicable habits. Buildings in your town will not be where you remember them. Attempts at appealing to you with arguments will be replaced with raw demands. Day by day, it will become easier to notice what is happening.

And once you've noticed it, you've won if you know who to turn to.
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Good stuff OP

I would suggest taking a look at 'Not In His Image' good book

Also Babylon Banksters

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Wow, did you like, have to, you know, maybe, thunk, before you posted that you fucking bot?
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Great post, thanks for writing that up
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Don’t you love the quick response? Lol

I think your perspective is interesting due to it being similar to mine with better articulation.

Thanks for sharing.
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Almost everywhere I turn now I'm running into something or someone talking about Gnostic Christianity and us living in a simulation of sorts.

I take this as a sign there is something important I need to discover in this area.

Thank you for writing that Lance. It was really interesting and gavevme much to ponder on.

There is a YT channel called Archaix that seems to have discovered the simulation we are in and the formula for figuring out cyclical events that have weaved their way into our history.

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Almost everywhere I turn now I'm running into something or someone talking about Gnostic Christianity and us living in a simulation of sorts.

I take this as a sign there is something important I need to discover in this area.

Thank you for writing that Lance. It was really interesting and gavevme much to ponder on.

There is a YT channel called Archaix that seems to have discovered the simulation we are in and the formula for figuring out cyclical events that have weaved their way into our history.

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It, comes down to reality. We need to discover that because Churchianity hs failed, miserable. I'm a born again, not really allowed on the prayer thread. There is a deeper meaning to everything we were taught we just have to look for it. IT is decidedly not from any post-Nicean 'wannabe church'. ANd certainly not from any 501C3 entity with a Clergy response team on the ready.

Christ came to free us from the old. The True living God doesn't like the Khasaurian overlay imprinted by some usurper named Y H W H. Nor his followers which include pretty much every fricking 'church' in existence. I'll meet you and pray with you in a catacomb before you find me performing cannibalistic/Satanic 'rites' at some alter with some fancy dressed pedo.

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Wall of text. Synopsis you fucking bone head?
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Wall of text. Synopsis you fucking bone head?
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It's a lucid read. Figure it out on your own, or are you a petulant type bot? 'Gimme, gimme'' BS? Piss off.
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you exist in a living matrix, simulation. The universe exists in the mind of the all.

Imagine, you are GOD and nothing else exists, no world, no people no dust, NOTHING. do it imagine it.

Why would you do it, create the seen and unseen worlds.

I will continue with the supposition that all you came up with the same reason that all that meditate on the above conclude.

Why, bored, the desire to experience something other self. For this to transpire a separation between Self is necessary. The veil is created, forgetful of the fact that YOU the All is expressing through all form, animals, human, and being with out bodies.

This separation causes pain, which we all have experienced, mentally emotionally and physically. Pain or the avoidance of pain leads you home.

Be still and know that I am God, what happens when you watch your thoughts, who is watching. Be still and know that I AM God. Enjoy the experience that is why you are here, to experience something other than SELF.

Spirits involution into matter and its evolutionary journey home.
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Good stuff OP
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you exist in a living matrix, simulation. The universe exists in the mind of the all.

Imagine, you are GOD and nothing else exists, no world, no people no dust, NOTHING. do it imagine it.

Why would you do it, create the seen and unseen worlds.

I will continue with the supposition that all you came up with the same reason that all that meditate on the above conclude.

Why, bored, the desire to experience something other self. For this to transpire a separation between Self is necessary. The veil is created, forgetful of the fact that YOU the All is expressing through all form, animals, human, and being with out bodies.

This separation causes pain, which we all have experienced, mentally emotionally and physically. Pain or the avoidance of pain leads you home.

Be still and know that I am God, what happens when you watch your thoughts, who is watching. Be still and know that I AM God. Enjoy the experience that is why you are here, to experience something other than SELF.

Spirits involution into matter and its evolutionary journey home.
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this answer is less than satisfactory for me and OPs post makes more sense and leaves room for ideas. the "we are all one" mantra goes along with the conditioning. No you are not the entire universe, yes you are made of pieces of it and consciousness is forreal but you are not god. it's the whole reason why you're unique. you can choose to follow the external world and it's chain of causality or one of your own making. if we were all one you wouldn't have choices.
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you exist in a living matrix, simulation. The universe exists in the mind of the all.

Imagine, you are GOD and nothing else exists, no world, no people no dust, NOTHING. do it imagine it.

Why would you do it, create the seen and unseen worlds.

I will continue with the supposition that all you came up with the same reason that all that meditate on the above conclude.

Why, bored, the desire to experience something other self. For this to transpire a separation between Self is necessary. The veil is created, forgetful of the fact that YOU the All is expressing through all form, animals, human, and being with out bodies.

This separation causes pain, which we all have experienced, mentally emotionally and physically. Pain or the avoidance of pain leads you home.

Be still and know that I am God, what happens when you watch your thoughts, who is watching. Be still and know that I AM God. Enjoy the experience that is why you are here, to experience something other than SELF.

Spirits involution into matter and its evolutionary journey home.
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this answer is less than satisfactory for me and OPs post makes more sense and leaves room for ideas. the "we are all one" mantra goes along with the conditioning. No you are not the entire universe, yes you are made of pieces of it and consciousness is forreal but you are not god. it's the whole reason why you're unique. you can choose to follow the external world and it's chain of causality or one of your own making. if we were all one you wouldn't have choices.
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Have it your way, all I know is what works for me. Entering into blissful states at will, my manifesting a perfect flow after eliminating all the programming I received from religion, school, society, and the government. Lies I bought into from them and decisions I made about my self which all created my reality through attracting situations people and things in my life which were less then desireable. When viewed from this point of view life becomes an opportunity for change, healing, growth and expanded awareness of what and who I really am.

From lifetime to life time we take with us the predisposition to remake the same decision about life and ourselves from one lifetime to the next, until we begin the awakening process, the process of releasing the programming and decision we bring with us into each life. In the east its called the wheel of karma. You reap what you sow in the west. Enjoy the show
and do unto others as you would have them do unto your, because they are you.

PS most of the current montra is one that keeps you looking outside of your self for your salvation.

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Thread: Any Gnostic Christians here?

It was on a 'ghost bin' site? Author unknown. The sites gone now...
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There's one thing the gnostics don't think about: Gnosticism and the likes focus too much on the physical realm.

Evil knows no boundaries and is not limited to here. There are infinite dimensions of chaos as well as dimensions of bliss. Where we are now is sort of like a middle ground.

The gnostics thinking while trying to run away from dualism (which is not the main issue here) also creates another dualism therefore it's contradicting.
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There's one thing the gnostics don't think about: Gnosticism and the likes focus too much on the physical realm.

Evil knows no boundaries and is not limited to here. There are infinite dimensions of chaos as well as dimensions of bliss. Where we are now is sort of like a middle ground.

The gnostics thinking while trying to run away from dualism (which is not the main issue here) also creates another dualism therefore it's contradicting.
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Huh? The Cathars were Gnostic dualists? They weren't 'running away from Dualism'? Oh dear, the RCC launched a Crusade and wiped them all out. Oops.

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Not bad considering the source....

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Spot on OP. It's how I've always understood it!
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you exist in a living matrix, simulation. The universe exists in the mind of the all.

Imagine, you are GOD and nothing else exists, no world, no people no dust, NOTHING. do it imagine it.

Why would you do it, create the seen and unseen worlds.

I will continue with the supposition that all you came up with the same reason that all that meditate on the above conclude.

Why, bored, the desire to experience something other self. For this to transpire a separation between Self is necessary. The veil is created, forgetful of the fact that YOU the All is expressing through all form, animals, human, and being with out bodies.

This separation causes pain, which we all have experienced, mentally emotionally and physically. Pain or the avoidance of pain leads you home.

Be still and know that I am God, what happens when you watch your thoughts, who is watching. Be still and know that I AM God. Enjoy the experience that is why you are here, to experience something other than SELF.

Spirits involution into matter and its evolutionary journey home.
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In my many experiences of communion with the mind of The Source, I was always given the impression that the prime motivation for creation was not loneliness or boredom, but a childlike curiosity and overwhelming desire to self-express and explore the infinitude of its own nature. It effectively MUST manifest everything within itself in order for those abstractions to exist at all. While this particular universe and its flawed local creator (the demiurge) may appear as an error from many perspectives, from the perspective of the ultimate God, it was a natural inevitability. If it can be imagined by God, it must exist, lest God be made limited by that unmanifested constraint. The only iterations of the divine mind that are off-limits are the ones that behave as a metaphysical cancer to God, causing a chain reaction that produces stagnation and infecting other domains of existence. When that happens, and ONLY then, The Source itself will intercede to prevent cataclysm. Our universe is currently running that risk, as creativity and true chaos (which is GOOD) is being subverted into a cold, mechanical and malignant order.

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There's one thing the gnostics don't think about: Gnosticism and the likes focus too much on the physical realm.

Evil knows no boundaries and is not limited to here. There are infinite dimensions of chaos as well as dimensions of bliss. Where we are now is sort of like a middle ground.

The gnostics thinking while trying to run away from dualism (which is not the main issue here) also creates another dualism therefore it's contradicting.
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What is the contradiction you are referring to? I'm guessing that it's dualism vs monism or physical vs non-physical? Regardless, I think you're making a great point, as the problems of this universe derive not from dualism itself, but from the specific mode that this dualism is expressing. True monism is an understanding of the infinite ways the whole can be differentiated and contrasted, which makes dualism a legitimate method of comprehending the all. However, when that important context is lost, it devolves into a conflicting dynamic in which the harmony of the players is lost, and they forget the song of the whole. It devolves into solipsism, absolutism, and a game fixated on domination. Good/evil, law/chaos, light/dark CAN coexist in both an individual and on cosmic scales, so long as both sides recognize and respect their roles in achieving the greater differentiation and comprehension of the whole. They must learn to exist in symbiosis, not parasitism or an inflexible hierarchy of power. They must be adaptable and respect the role which the other must play. This is what has been lost in our tiny slice of creation. The demiurge contends that it and it alone is superior to the whole and sees itself as the prime creator, denying that anything of importance can or should exist outside its particular reality "game". In doing so, it cuts creation off from the essential context to The Source, which is needed to solve the equation of duality. Because of this fundamental imbalance, the demiurge needs to constantly work against the flow of the greater cosmos to sustain an unstable creation. It extracts this energy from the human spirit, a being that still acknowledges and connects to the infinite potential of the True God. The demiurge does not comprehend that it needs to work WITH us, rather than against. If it did so, its creation would no longer need to resort to predatory tactics, and it would gain insight and self-sustaining power far greater than it currently has. By working against us, it works against itself, and this is why it is called "Samael" the blind god.

Here is a remarkable essay that elucidates the nature of "malignancy" - an essay that has changed my perspective and enriched my life. I urge everyone to read it and then use it as context to gnostic principles. Although this is only a sociological treatise, it applies to metaphysics as well.
[link to samvak.tripod.com (secure)]
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Thought provoking thread OP.

All of the acceleration of science, especially along the lines of trans humanism and merging man and machine, could be the final act of the demiurge.

By physically conquering death and being able to trap the soul in a permanent vessel or a serious of temporary vessels; ie clones, a demiurge could effectively seal off the exit and none of the souls would be able to escape. It could very well be a nightmare future on the other side of the singularity, where one is no longer allowed the luxury of death, just eternal servitude to the system.

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short paragraph : synopsis?
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Some thoughts and ideas are to broad to boil down into a small paragraph. Some ideas take whole books to convey. It wasn't that long of a read though. Maybe it's just not your cup of tea?
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Meh, nope
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short paragraph : synopsis?
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Some thoughts and ideas are to broad to boil down into a small paragraph. Some ideas take whole books to convey. It wasn't that long of a read though. Maybe it's just not your cup of tea?
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I understand
Not for me but some people need a sentence or 2 SUMMARY.
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short paragraph : synopsis?
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Some thoughts and ideas are to broad to boil down into a small paragraph. Some ideas take whole books to convey. It wasn't that long of a read though. Maybe it's just not your cup of tea?
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I understand
Not for me but some people need a sentence or 2 SUMMARY.
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Go read headlines at drudge or something, neanderthal orc.
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you exist in a living matrix, simulation. The universe exists in the mind of the all.

Imagine, you are GOD and nothing else exists, no world, no people no dust, NOTHING. do it imagine it.

Why would you do it, create the seen and unseen worlds.

I will continue with the supposition that all you came up with the same reason that all that meditate on the above conclude.

Why, bored, the desire to experience something other self. For this to transpire a separation between Self is necessary. The veil is created, forgetful of the fact that YOU the All is expressing through all form, animals, human, and being with out bodies.

This separation causes pain, which we all have experienced, mentally emotionally and physically. Pain or the avoidance of pain leads you home.

Be still and know that I am God, what happens when you watch your thoughts, who is watching. Be still and know that I AM God. Enjoy the experience that is why you are here, to experience something other than SELF.

Spirits involution into matter and its evolutionary journey home.
 Quoting: mondali2


The self is all there is. The problem begins when one confines the definition of the self to one particular mode of expression. It's a matter of which "I/eye" you choose to view yourself through. With this perspective, service to others becomes service to self - the trans-personal self, the great AM. One does not have to be made ignorant to this fact (veil of forgetfulness), but merely apply a personality filter to the consciousness of the great mind in order to manifest as a unique individual incarnation. While some level of forgetfulness is essential to the soul differentiation process, the way it is being applied to humanity is a weaponized approach, used to isolate us, rather than to enrich self-exploration.
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The anus and mouth are not required for childbirth.

Electrical patterns are not patterned after Goetia. Easier to say, the entire world is patterned as circuits, first.

The eye is used to mock Christ’s “if thy eye be single” teaching.

The construct is ending at a shortened pace “for the sake of the very elect”.
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bump
Soulless fake humans are already AI.
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