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Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media

“Something is happening deep beneath the Earth's crust. There are currently three very active earthquake swarms occurring along the Pacific Rim. It would appear something "big" is brewing. If geological teams from the US, Italy, Germany, and Japan are correct in their suspicions, we may be witnessing the precursor of the feared, yet inevitable Cascadia Subduction Zone eruption.

At this time there are three major earthquake swarms occurring in the world, and they just happen to be along the Pacific Rim from northern Mexico to Alaska. The first is the 'Cerro Prieto' volcano and geothermal field at the Baja Peninsula near Mexicali, Calif. The second is the Clear Lake volcano; also known as 'The Geysers' geothermal field in northern California near Santa Rosa just north of San Francisco. The third swarm is at Atka volcano along the Aleutian Islands.

Baja 'Cerro Prieto' Map: [link to www.earthchangesmedia.com]

Clear Lake 'The Geysers' Map: [link to www.earthchangesmedia.com]

Atka volcano Map: [link to www.earthchangesmedia.com]


There is the Baja, California swarm at the 'Cerro Prieto' geothermal field. It began on February 9th 2008 with a 5.4 magnitude quake followed by over two hundred smaller quakes measuring 5.0 to 1.3 magnitude. There is no sign of this swarm letting up. The swarm at Clear Lake, Calif. known as The Geysers began just days after the 'Cerro Prieto' swarm. The third swarm at Atka Island, Alaska also began around the same time.

Quake List for Baja and Geysers: [link to quake.usgs.gov]

Quake List for Aleutian Islands: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov]


Sitting in the middle of this vast array of volcanoes which lines the West Coast of America up to Alaska, is the Cascadia Subduction Zone. The Cascadia Subduction Zone is a very long sloping fault that stretches from mid-Vancouver Island to Northern California. It separates the Juan de Fuca and North America plates. New ocean floor is being created offshore of Washington and Oregon. As more material wells up along the ocean ridge, the ocean floor is pushed toward and beneath the continent.

Cascadia Subduction Zone: [link to www.earthchangesmedia.com]

Large Subduction Zone quakes are the largest earthquakes in the world, and can exceed magnitude 9.0. Because earthquake size is proportional to fault area, is perfectly set for "the big one" which is often mentioned. The Cascadia Subduction Zone is a very long sloping fault that stretches from mid-Vancouver Island to Northern California. It separates the Juan de Fuca and North America plates.


Emergency Management Officials Prepare for Catastrophic Earthquake

This notice was released just yesterday March 4th. Regional emergency management officials are preparing now for the next big one. On Wednesday, March 5th over 50 local public and private sector agencies are testing emergency plans and communications by participating in a catastrophic earthquake exercise dubbed "Sound Shake '08".

Based on the Regional Fault Earthquake Scenario; a study written by the Earthquake Engineering Research Institute, the exercise will mock-up serious impacts to the region's transportation and communications systems. Additionally the scenario plan includes extended power outages, utility disruptions, and impacts to the health care system.”

[link to earthchangesmedia.com]
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OOOOOOOhhhh.... maybe this is in relation to an earlier post about something "big" happening soon in Oregon?

Sounds ominous....
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OOOOOOOhhhh.... maybe this is in relation to an earlier post about something "big" happening soon in Oregon?

Sounds ominous....
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Here's the earlier post:

Thread: "SOMETHING 'BIG' IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN OREGON"
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OOOOOOOhhhh.... maybe this is in relation to an earlier post about something "big" happening soon in Oregon?

Sounds ominous....
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I was thinking the same thing, it would make sense to ready the NG and other responders, if they think that this will really happen.
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Interesting they call it ""Sound Shake '08".. sound from WHAT?
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Ya, it hasn't even happened yet and there is already a name for the event. Makes it kind of sound like it will happen.
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when this happens, Hawaii will drown. I'm predicting a 9.5
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You still couldn't predict when it was happening within months with technology known to the public. It could be in fifteen weeks or one.
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Interesting they call it ""Sound Shake '08".. sound from WHAT?
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I believe it's a reference to Puget Sound.
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I'm tellin you

I've been "worried" about what they referred to as the "Clearlake" geysers (which is actually Mount Konocti) for a very long time.

It's absolutely beautiful right around there...fresh springs and beautiful views, but it NEVER "felt" right to me. Hard to explain.

That recent "rash" of activity about 3-4 weeks ago kept reverberating in that area as well. I don't think the public is being told the whole story....but maybe "the private" don't really know either.
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Thread: "SOMETHING 'BIG' IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN IN OREGON"
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Oh please... you are all making me laugh and roll my eyes at the same time.

They wouldn't prep the NG for a Cascadia major EQ.... because they do not know when it will happen.

additionally
1. you are a bit late for the Baja and So Ca EQ swarm... ended Feb 26. They are still getting the occasional one in the area, but it's a GEOTHERMAL area... therefor, expected. Always expect activity in geothermal areas, somewhere between 1 and 100 EQ's a day is normal for most. They are all between 0.1 and 2.9 mag.
2. the Geysers swarms started to happen about 2 weeks into the Baja swarm, around the same time that Baja was petering out. plus, the biggest they've gotten is 4.1, something over 90% of the population in the area didn't feel.
3. 9.0??? on WHAT fault??? Never heard of that ESPECIALLY in Oregon. You get your info from another panic board? or from a geologist? not indirectly, but directly. This is the only evidence I could find to support this claim "Geologists who were studying mud and sand deposits in coastal marshes from Coos Bay to Astoria found evidence that great earthquakes of magnitude 8 to perhaps 9 have occurred along the outer coast. The geologic record shows that the last event was about 300 years ago and that these great earthquakes occur about every 400 to 600 years." still 1-3 centuries from now.
[link to pubs.usgs.gov]
otherwise, don't expect anything larger than mid 7 mag. Oregon isn't very seismically active as compared to it's neighboring states California and Washington. South of the triple junction at Mendocino, is where you can expect most activity... even then, most is San Francisco or south.
4. Don't expect to actually feel something less than a 4.5, it's pretty unlikely you'll feel it especially in a hard rock (meaning granitic bedrock and similar material) region like most of oregon. Also, it's highly unlikely that anything less than a 6.0 will do much more than catch your attention, example Wells, NV about 1.5 weeks ago. If you have everything properly secured, then you shouldn't have too much to fret over.
5. Fretting over an earthquake is just going to make your hair turn white. Between CA, NV, Or, and WA there is maybe 1-6.0 or higher in every few years. Something greater than 7.0 is on the order of 5 to 10 years... little quiz.. within these 4 states, how long ago was the last 7.0 or greater and where was it? how long before that? and before that?
Answer.... 2 off coast Northern CA in '94 then '05, on in south CA in '99. But, I believe not much if any damage was caused.


OOOOOOOhhhh.... maybe this is in relation to an earlier post about something "big" happening soon in Oregon?

Sounds ominous....


I was thinking the same thing, it would make sense to ready the NG and other responders, if they think that this will really happen.
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Oh please... you are all making me laugh and roll my eyes at the same time.

They wouldn't prep the NG for a Cascadia major EQ.... because they do not know when it will happen.

additionally
1. you are a bit late for the Baja and So Ca EQ swarm... ended Feb 26. They are still getting the occasional one in the area, but it's a GEOTHERMAL area... therefor, expected. Always expect activity in geothermal areas, somewhere between 1 and 100 EQ's a day is normal for most. They are all between 0.1 and 2.9 mag.
2. the Geysers swarms started to happen about 2 weeks into the Baja swarm, around the same time that Baja was petering out. plus, the biggest they've gotten is 4.1, something over 90% of the population in the area didn't feel.
3. 9.0??? on WHAT fault??? Never heard of that ESPECIALLY in Oregon. You get your info from another panic board? or from a geologist? not indirectly, but directly. This is the only evidence I could find to support this claim "Geologists who were studying mud and sand deposits in coastal marshes from Coos Bay to Astoria found evidence that great earthquakes of magnitude 8 to perhaps 9 have occurred along the outer coast. The geologic record shows that the last event was about 300 years ago and that these great earthquakes occur about every 400 to 600 years." still 1-3 centuries from now.
[link to pubs.usgs.gov]
otherwise, don't expect anything larger than mid 7 mag. Oregon isn't very seismically active as compared to it's neighboring states California and Washington. South of the triple junction at Mendocino, is where you can expect most activity... even then, most is San Francisco or south.
4. Don't expect to actually feel something less than a 4.5, it's pretty unlikely you'll feel it especially in a hard rock (meaning granitic bedrock and similar material) region like most of oregon. Also, it's highly unlikely that anything less than a 6.0 will do much more than catch your attention, example Wells, NV about 1.5 weeks ago. If you have everything properly secured, then you shouldn't have too much to fret over.
5. Fretting over an earthquake is just going to make your hair turn white. Between CA, NV, Or, and WA there is maybe 1-6.0 or higher in every few years. Something greater than 7.0 is on the order of 5 to 10 years... little quiz.. within these 4 states, how long ago was the last 7.0 or greater and where was it? how long before that? and before that?
Answer.... 2 off coast Northern CA in '94 then '05, on in south CA in '99. But, I believe not much if any damage was caused.

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glad to have an expert on board
no need to get nippy at speculation...it's kinda just plain ol' fun sometimes
nothing wrong with being grounded either
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apologies for sounding nippy, but while trying to research and type this my 2.5yr old was having a no-nap day and a bit of a melt down. Stress came through in my writing. By your name, I'm sure you understand...


glad to have an expert on board
no need to get nippy at speculation...it's kinda just plain ol' fun sometimes
nothing wrong with being grounded either
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Other than sniffing a little sulfur, why were you not feeling right about Clearlake? I don't feel right about it due to all the mercury in the water... don't eat the local lake fish, especially the bottom feeders. You think canned tuna has high mercury...


I'm tellin you

I've been "worried" about what they referred to as the "Clearlake" geysers (which is actually Mount Konocti) for a very long time.

It's absolutely beautiful right around there...fresh springs and beautiful views, but it NEVER "felt" right to me. Hard to explain.

That recent "rash" of activity about 3-4 weeks ago kept reverberating in that area as well. I don't think the public is being told the whole story....but maybe "the private" don't really know either.
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I find it amusing that the article doesn't mention Canada at all, even if there's a decent part of their zone thats along the British Columbia coast.

Although people have been crying wolf about that zone for years.
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A) Your source SUCKS at predictions, and

B) NO reputable seismologist agrees with this.



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I find it amusing that the article doesn't mention Canada at all, even if there's a decent part of their zone thats along the British Columbia coast.

Although people have been crying wolf about that zone for years.
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I was just thinking that too...
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No reputable geologist <period> would agree with the idea of predicting an earthquake in so specific a term. We even get very annoyed at the idea of trying to scare people with making rash announcements that manage to sound kinda official, that way overestimate an areas or even a specific faults or volcanos capability.




I find it amusing that the article doesn't mention Canada at all, even if there's a decent part of their zone thats along the British Columbia coast.

Although people have been crying wolf about that zone for years.


I was just thinking that too...
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I read a GLP thread a couple of days ago that stated that a non-volcanic, slow tremor was recorded in Sound Puget Sound the day before. When these were first discovered they were hoping that it was a release for the locked subduction zone. But they now think that these events are akin to cocking a trigger one click at a time. The chance of the "big one" is much greater at these times.

The slow earthquakes are deep and not felt at the surface. They last for weeks and happen approx. every 14 months. In February 2007 Canada issued a high earthquake risk alert for the weeks that it lasted. The U.S. did not.

Maybe the start of the slow earthquakes in Puget Sound is also why the geological teams are concerned along with the swarms in the three areas.
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Other than sniffing a little sulfur, why were you not feeling right about Clearlake? I don't feel right about it due to all the mercury in the water... don't eat the local lake fish, especially the bottom feeders. You think canned tuna has high mercury...



I'm tellin you

I've been "worried" about what they referred to as the "Clearlake" geysers (which is actually Mount Konocti) for a very long time.

It's absolutely beautiful right around there...fresh springs and beautiful views, but it NEVER "felt" right to me. Hard to explain.

That recent "rash" of activity about 3-4 weeks ago kept reverberating in that area as well. I don't think the public is being told the whole story....but maybe "the private" don't really know either.

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btw....it's ok about the "snippy" thing and indeed I DO understand.....no prob :-)

about this....I lived in the area in the 80's and early 90's. My mother in law worked on the springs side of the lake so we were over there quite a bit. I had rather disorientating "feelings" or a sense of queasiness EVERY time we drove from Cobb south. I have ZERO explanation. Certainly nothing that is remotely logical. I'd probably sound like a kook if I said much.
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Actually, rather logical. I do have an explanation... or maybe multiple, depends upon your specific situation. It includes multiple unknowns to me, but something if you have time and the desire to consider. Consider where exactly you drove from and to exactly like the route you get the most queasy on, what you drove past, your personal sensativities/allergies, etc, if you get motion sickness to any degree... You don't need to write me or the board about this, this is just for your own personal interest, and fun for me to think on sciencewise. 5 possible explanations:

-The Cobb area is fairly close to multiple geothermal vents. Do you know if you drove past any? Some people have a sensitivity to sulfur and other particles found in the steam that vents.
-Since the 1960's the grape crop has dramatically increased in Lake County for the wineries in Sonoma and Napa. Plus the whole county is huge on Ag... Did you go past any specific farms? They do often us pesticides, toxins that affect the central nervous system. Yes, a wiff of something you are particularly sensitive to can cause dizziness, guiddiness, momentary disorder, etc... A little shouldn't do much but if you live(d) near one of the farms, you could be worried. It tends to build up in the system and stay, some of it.
-You also did cross multiple faults, the southeastern side of Lake County is riddled. Some people claim to be able to witch water (the stick someone holds and is supposedly able to find a slight shift in the magnetics of an area when crossing water or underground powerlines, etc.). I've seen it done my self for buried power and utility lines by a driller I worked with often... and Goodness sake it actually works. Kept us from hitting a gas line and telephone/tv cable before when there was no specific evidence I could find. Water is well known for flowing along fault lines, it looks for the easiest path and the fault has already broken through the earth for it. There is supposedly a slight variation in the magnetics around the flow/path of water. Every try witching??? You can find the placements of the fault lines at USGS and overlay the local roads with it to look at your route. If it happened at the same spot(s) everytime, you may consider what you are sensitive to.
- If it was a very windy road just prior to your queasiness, then you may simply be motion sick. Do you need stuff to get through a plane ride? Amusement park ride? Ever get sick on long very windy roads?
-a fifth explanation could be psychological... do you dislike mom-in-law? nuff said...


btw....it's ok about the "snippy" thing and indeed I DO understand.....no prob :-)

about this....I lived in the area in the 80's and early 90's. My mother in law worked on the springs side of the lake so we were over there quite a bit. I had rather disorientating "feelings" or a sense of queasiness EVERY time we drove from Cobb south. I have ZERO explanation. Certainly nothing that is remotely logical. I'd probably sound like a kook if I said much.
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NEWS (latest at the top)
Mar 4, 2088 - Tremor continues today at similar levels. A large crew is headed to the field tomorrow to deploy a heard of Texans. A CAFE station is being moved to the abandoned TA site of C04A to run autonomously for at least a month. The automatic tremor locator process is being updated with some improvements but is not yet plotting correctly. With everyone in the field tomorrow it will not be fixed until Thursday. A simple press release announcing the ETS start is being prepared.
Mar 3, 2008 - Tremor has been detected in the South Puget Sound area starting yesterday (Mar 2). It is moderately strong on station HDW from time to time but quite weak on most other stations in the area. Unfortunately a key TA station C04A was removed a couple of weeks ago and thus is no longer available for detecting tremor. The CAFE autonomous stations were all serviced over the past two weeks and so should be working fine now. Plans are being made to do the installation of a many component array of high-frequency, vertical only sensors (Texans) at the Big Skidder site on Wednesday, Mar 5.

[link to www.pnsn.org]
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Actually, rather logical. I do have an explanation... or maybe multiple, depends upon your specific situation. It includes multiple unknowns to me, but something if you have time and the desire to consider. Consider where exactly you drove from and to exactly like the route you get the most queasy on, what you drove past, your personal sensativities/allergies, etc, if you get motion sickness to any degree... You don't need to write me or the board about this, this is just for your own personal interest, and fun for me to think on sciencewise. 5 possible explanations:

-The Cobb area is fairly close to multiple geothermal vents. Do you know if you drove past any? Some people have a sensitivity to sulfur and other particles found in the steam that vents.
-Since the 1960's the grape crop has dramatically increased in Lake County for the wineries in Sonoma and Napa. Plus the whole county is huge on Ag... Did you go past any specific farms? They do often us pesticides, toxins that affect the central nervous system. Yes, a wiff of something you are particularly sensitive to can cause dizziness, guiddiness, momentary disorder, etc... A little shouldn't do much but if you live(d) near one of the farms, you could be worried. It tends to build up in the system and stay, some of it.
-You also did cross multiple faults, the southeastern side of Lake County is riddled. Some people claim to be able to witch water (the stick someone holds and is supposedly able to find a slight shift in the magnetics of an area when crossing water or underground powerlines, etc.). I've seen it done my self for buried power and utility lines by a driller I worked with often... and Goodness sake it actually works. Kept us from hitting a gas line and telephone/tv cable before when there was no specific evidence I could find. Water is well known for flowing along fault lines, it looks for the easiest path and the fault has already broken through the earth for it. There is supposedly a slight variation in the magnetics around the flow/path of water. Every try witching??? You can find the placements of the fault lines at USGS and overlay the local roads with it to look at your route. If it happened at the same spot(s) everytime, you may consider what you are sensitive to.
- If it was a very windy road just prior to your queasiness, then you may simply be motion sick. Do you need stuff to get through a plane ride? Amusement park ride? Ever get sick on long very windy roads?
-a fifth explanation could be psychological... do you dislike mom-in-law? nuff said...

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great info
I'm goin with options 1 & 3. 3 makes the MOST sense to me, but I'm definitely sensitive to the sulfur. As for #5, she was one of the greatest women who ever lived as far as I'm concerned and I'm always happy for an opportunity to say so. Again, this was years ago when I was out there, and perhaps I was just not aware of how sensitive I really was to the "magnetics". I occasionally have that same feeling around my back yard and have wondered if we're sittin on some water on our property. Maybe I should TRY "witching". Thanks for the info!
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Your property may be on or close to underground utilities or overhead powerlines. You could have water underground or even water lines or some sort of sewer lines (septic system?). You could check with your local utility companies. Easiest way to check is call whatever Underground Service Alert (USA) you have in your area. Markoff on the street local to you in white paint and tell them you are digging in the back yard. Legally, even if you are just planning on planting a tree or bush you are supposed to call and notify so they can let you know if you are planting above the main underground line of something for your area. You may even be on a faultline. They are all over the country, not just on the west coast. Again to check that, check USGS and overlay the local streets for your area.

Witching is an art. You'd have to observe it AT LEAST once to see how it's done then be taught a little. supposedly, anyone can learn it, but the more sensitive to it are better at it.

I understand your feelings for your mom-in-law. I have a wonderful lady I love dearly who's like a 2nd mom to me. I have friends who consider theirs' to be the worst beast on earth... I was just suggesting... I also had a dad-in-law whom I loved much more than my own father. He passed 1 year ago on Feb 28, so it's kinda fresh feeling still. Miss him often...


great info
I'm goin with options 1 & 3. 3 makes the MOST sense to me, but I'm definitely sensitive to the sulfur. As for #5, she was one of the greatest women who ever lived as far as I'm concerned and I'm always happy for an opportunity to say so. Again, this was years ago when I was out there, and perhaps I was just not aware of how sensitive I really was to the "magnetics". I occasionally have that same feeling around my back yard and have wondered if we're sittin on some water on our property. Maybe I should TRY "witching". Thanks for the info!
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geogal have you come across any 'visuals/light(s)'' regarding faults, instabilities, or other elec/mag functions?
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Not sure I understand the question... do you mean some way to actually see or know a fault is in a specific location? a "surefire" thing to point to and say, "there's a fault."? The answer to that is no. there are signs of what is potential or likely. Like I said... water is attracted to a fault line. So, if you see a string of trees in the middle of a dry grass covered slope in a flat land area, you have a potential. There are multiple things to looks at. It's much easier to find them since the creation of the magnometer and other instraments that can observe small EQ movements. But, that's only a way to find a currently active fault.

In regards to instabilities... what are you asking specifically. Landslides, liquefaction potential areas, or what? Lots of ways for the above instabilities... much easier for a layman to find, especially potential/currently active ones. Define the instability you're asking about and I can give a proper answer.

Elec/mag functions? What like ball lightening? multiple arcing lightening? or magnetics of rocks? again please define the question. yes, seen it. quite cool.

In regards to the general question, have I come across any of those things? Yes.
but, are they specifically related to faulting? no. Can you have a landslide at or due to a fault? yes. do you get ball lightening due to faulting? not really, no. Do fairies live near a fault? If it's bringing water and giving life to plants and stuff in a normally dry area, sure, why not....

geogal have you come across any 'visuals/light(s)'' regarding faults, instabilities, or other elec/mag functions?
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Thanks for the reference... normally before sneering at something like this that sounds like the normal suspicious GLP posts that have a grain of truth, but most of the rest is hype, BS and general fear mongering/ranting, I finally found the scientific articles that support this info. Haven't had a chance to read these in depth, but perusing them made me learn something new today. For those who like science and want to learn more about the Cascadia Subduction Zone:

[link to www.panga.cwu.edu]

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Mar 4, 2088 - Tremor continues today at similar levels. A large crew is headed to the field tomorrow to deploy a heard of Texans. A CAFE station is being moved to the abandoned TA site of C04A to run autonomously for at least a month. The automatic tremor locator process is being updated with some improvements but is not yet plotting correctly. With everyone in the field tomorrow it will not be fixed until Thursday. A simple press release announcing the ETS start is being prepared.
Mar 3, 2008 - Tremor has been detected in the South Puget Sound area starting yesterday (Mar 2). It is moderately strong on station HDW from time to time but quite weak on most other stations in the area. Unfortunately a key TA station C04A was removed a couple of weeks ago and thus is no longer available for detecting tremor. The CAFE autonomous stations were all serviced over the past two weeks and so should be working fine now. Plans are being made to do the installation of a many component array of high-frequency, vertical only sensors (Texans) at the Big Skidder site on Wednesday, Mar 5.

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I'm tellin you

I've been "worried" about what they referred to as the "Clearlake" geysers (which is actually Mount Konocti) for a very long time.

It's absolutely beautiful right around there...fresh springs and beautiful views, but it NEVER "felt" right to me. Hard to explain.

That recent "rash" of activity about 3-4 weeks ago kept reverberating in that area as well. I don't think the public is being told the whole story....but maybe "the private" don't really know either.
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It isnt Mount Konocti! Its Cobb Mountian! I lived in Lake County for 15 years of my life.... What do you mean recent activity?!?! It has been trembling since i was a child! Nothing has picked up or subsided! Thats why theres geysers and geothermal energy there, its constantly active.. there is a total of 7 volcanos in lake county...the real scary one is Mt St Helena, which caused the huge petrified forest tourist trap that exists today in calistoga area.





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