Bird Flu Virus has Mutated into Form That's Deadly to Humans

Tt is a huge crock of shit designed to ratchet up the fear.

Don't by into it.

Do some research and find out how many people die every year due to the garden variety flu.

Then ask yourself why they haven't flown into a frenzy over this.

Tens of thousands of people in the US die every year.

This page is from the Homeland Security website itself.

[link to www.globalsecurity.org]

They use garden variety flu statistics to speculate on the avian flu, though there is no correlation whatsoever!

They talk about the percentage of mortality in Eastern countries where there has been mortality, but they do not mention the actual total number of affected people once! Not once! this is because only a relative handful of people have contracted it, and these people were immune-compromised in every single case! That's right, they didn't even go into significant facts such as that at all.

Only a relative few number of people have died in all the world since the first human case of bird flu occured. Fewer than a hundred, and all immune compromised! Only about three hundred cases of avain flu related deaths have occured between January 2004 and April 2007!

Yet they show the statistics of the flu that makes its rounds every year killing, tens of thousands of people in a good year, and hundreds of thousands in a bad year, and then compare it to the Spanish flu, again with no apparent rhyme or reason except that the numbers are big and scary!

Lame! Lame Lame LAME!

Here is their own article:

"Flu Pandemic Morbidity / Mortality
Pandemic years are associated with many more cases of influenza and a higher case fatality rate than that seen in seasonal flu outbreaks. It is common to encounter clinical attack rate ranges for seasonal flu of 5% to 15% in the literature. For pandemic flu, clinical attack rates are reported in the range of 25% to 50%.

During a typical year in the United States, 30,000 to 50,000 persons die as a result of influenza viral infection. Frequently cited numbers are 20,000 deaths each year, and 37,000 annual deaths. About 5-10% of hospitalizations for influenza lead to fatal outcome in adults.

In normal years, although most influenza infection is in children, the serious morbidity and mortality is almost entirely among elderly people with underlying chronic disease. During influenza epidemics from 1979–80 through 2000–01, the estimated overall number of influenza-associated hospitalizations in the United States ranged from approximately 54,000 to 430,000/epidemic. An average of approximately 226,000 influenza-related excess hospitalizations occurred per year, with 63% of all hospitalizations occurring among persons aged > 65 years.

Influenza-related deaths can result from pneumonia and from exacerbations of cardiopulmonary conditions and other chronic diseases. Deaths of older adults account for > 90% of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza. In one study of influenza epidemics, approximately 19,000 influenza-associated pulmonary and circulatory deaths per influenza season occurred during 1976–1990, compared with approximately 36,000 deaths during 1990--1999. Estimated rates of influenza-associated pulmonary and circulatory deaths/100,000 persons were 0.4--0.6 among persons aged 0–49 years, 7.5 among persons aged 50--64 years, and 98.3 among persons aged > 65 years.

A different pattern may emerge in a pandemic. The 1918-19 pandemic affected mainly healthy young adults and seemed to spare those at the extremes of life. In the USA, the mortality rate during the 1918 pandemic pandemic was around 2.5%. Similarly, in 1957, the brunt fell on schoolchildren and young adults.

The number of hospitalizations and deaths will depend on the virulence of the pandemic virus. Estimates differ about 10-fold between more and less severe scenarios. Published estimates based on extrapolation of the 1957 and 1968 pandemics suggest that there could be 839,000 to 9,625,000 hospitalizations, 18-42 million outpatient visits, and 20-47 million additional illnesses, depending on the attack rate of infection during the pandemic. Estimates based on extrapolation from the more severe 1918 pandemic suggest that substantially more hospitalizations and deaths could occur. The demand for inpatient and intensive-care unit (ICU) beds and assisted ventilation services could increase by more than 25% under the less severe scenario.

Because the virulence of the influenza virus that causes the next pandemic cannot be predicted, two scenarios were presented by CDC, HHS and DHS based on extrapolation of past pandemic experience. The DHS estimates are suspect, since they appear to derive from a 1999 analysis that was based on the 1997 US population of 265 million. By 2005 the US population was about 295 million, so the DHS estimates are about 10% low simply due to the growth in population.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), it has been estimated that in the absence of any control measures such as vaccination and drugs, a “medium-level” influenza pandemic in the United States could kill 89,000 to 207,000 people, affect from 15 to 35 percent of the U.S. population, and generate associated costs ranging from $71 billion to $167 billion. Another Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimate suggested that, in the United States alone, up to 200 million people will be infected, 50 million people will require outpatient care, two million people will be hospitalized, and between 100,000 and 500,000 persons will die. These numbers are significantly higher than the estimates used by the Deparment of Homeland Security. The HHS notes that the death rate associated with the 1918 influenza applied to the current population would produce 1.9 million deaths in the United States and 180 million to 360 million deaths globally. It is most noteworthy that the "Low" scenario presented by HHS corresponds to the "High" scenario presented by DHS.

By 2005 the observed human avian flu case fatality rate declined to 34% (16/47) in northern Viet Nam, but was 83.3% (20/24) in southern Viet Nam. The case fatality rate in Thailand was 71% (12/17) and 100% in Cambodia (4/4) in 2004. The case fatality rate was 89% among those younger than 15 years of age in Thailand. Death occurred an average of 9 or 10 days after the onset of illness (range, 6 to 30) and most patients have died of progressive respiratory failure.

Avian Influenza (H5N1) viruses isolated from humans in Asia in 2004 exhibited increased virulence in laboratory test mammals compared to the viruses isolated from 1997 human cases. By one authoritative estimate, an H5N1 avian influenza that is transmittable from human to human could be devastating: assuming a mortality rate of 20 percent and 80 million illnesses, the United States could suffer 16 million deaths.

Undetected cases might imply that infections with H5N1 influenza may be more common than previously thought, suggesting that the overall case fatality rate may not be as high as previously suggested. It also raises the question of whether mild and/or asymptomatic cases of avian flu allow the virus more opportunities to mix, or "re-assort," with human-adapted flu viruses. This genetic mixing increases the likelihood of generating a virus that is able to efficiently spread from person to person.

HHS Health Outcomes
Characteristic Moderate (1958/68-like) Severe (1918-like)
Illness 90 million (30%) 90 million (30%)
Outpatient medical care 45 million (50%) 45 million (50%)
Hospitalization 865,000 9,900,000
ICU care 128,750 1,485,000
Mechanical ventilation 64,875 742,500
Deaths 209,000 1,903,000


Mean DHS estimates (5th, 95th percentiles) of the impact of the next influenza pandemic in the United States without any large-scale and/or effective interventions DHS Health Outcomes 15% Gross Attack Rate*
(5th, 95th percentiles) 35% Gross Attack Rate
(5th, 95th percentiles)
Fatalities 87,000
(54,400; 122,200) 207,000
(127,200; 285,300)
Hospitalizations 314,400
(210,400; 417,200) 733,800
(491,000; 973,500)
Outpatient visits 18.1 million
(17.5; 18.7) 42.2 million
(40.8; 43.7)
Self-care ill 21.3 million
(20.6; 21.9) 49.7 million
(48.2; 51.2)
*Percent Gross Attack Rate refers to the percentage of the entire U.S. population that will have a clinical case of influenza.


Based on the DHS estimates, the economic impact, in 2004 US dollars, would range from $87 billion (15% gross attack rate) to $203 billion (35% gross attack rate). These estimates include a value for time lost from work but do not include any estimate due to economic disruption or long-term health care costs.

Property damage is minimal. Service disruption, however, could be severe due to worker illness. Health care systems will be severely stressed, if not overwhelmed, and first responders are also likely to be severely strained."

"Only a relative few number of people have died in all the world since the first human case of bird flu occured. Fewer than a hundred, and all immune compromised! Only about three hundred cases of avain flu related deaths have occured between January 2004 and April 2007!"

I made a critical mistake and did not want to compromise the legitemacy of my post by not correcting it.

Above I wrote in the second sentence that fewer than a hundered persons had died since the first case was documented. I then wrote in the following line that about three hundred deaths had occured between January 2004 and April 2007. It is the second statistic which is correct, and was meant as a correction to the first. I simply forgot to delete the erroneous information.

I apologise.

the paragraph should read thus:

"Only a relative few number of people have died in all the world since the first human case of bird flu occured. Only about three hundred cases of avain flu related deaths have occured between January 2004 and April 2007!"

I screwed it up yet again. The number of people who contracted the avian flu within that timespan was about three hundred. Not the number who died of the avian flu. But according to the OP the total number of deaths dating back from 2003 to the present is only 201.

That is an average of forty people a year who died of the avian flu world wide compared to an average of several tens of thousands who die every year of the garden variety flu in the US alone.

The article said the strain recently mutated. If that is in fact true, then that could be a big concern. The past mortality rates would be meaningless. This would be a whole new ballgame!!

Wow, the evil ones have worked so long and hard to force an outcome.

That's not the point. While tens of thousands do die each year from the flu, the mortality rate is somewhere less than one percent. Nearly EVERYONE in the country is exposed to the flu each year, or several times each year. Some develop symptoms, most do not but are carriers. Most who "catch" it suffer slightly for a couple days, some more severely, even less die.

The bird flu, if it mutates to an easily transmittable human form, COULD have a very high mortality rate, hopefully not as bad as it is now (50% or more on average). It could have a far lower mortality rate. We won't know until it happens.

BUT, if the mortality rate is even as low as ten percent, and with a population of around 280 million, that COULD mean 28 millions deaths in this country alone. Also to the point, this flu would be a totally new virus, never before seen in the human population, so that means that nearly EVERYONE IN THE WORLD would get it at some point since NO ONE would have any immunity to it.

Now think what the world would be like if the mortality rate was 50% or higher?

Get it??

fuck off

Not such a vast temperature diffference for the many people already sufffering the effects of common and/or swine flu.

IF this mutates and IS spread by tourism/travel, especially planes, the mutated swine H1N1 and H3N1 will NOT be stopped by any pharma vaccine BECAUSE, they will NOT have had time ( 2-3 months ) to develope a vaccine, NOR in any sizeable quantities !

The BEST rule you can apply to this whole fiasco IS ......
If you are vaccinated, or NOT vaccinated, the DSAME NUMBER of people in BOTH groups WILL DEVELOPE the flu. Those ARE the statistics for years now !

Better to KNOW what things will STOP cytokesis (sp ?) or filling of the lungs with fluid ( You drownd in it ) like Vit.C, D, omega 3 fatty acids; what to take if you HAVE it ( the herb,scuttellara, anti viral, as a tea, which INHIBITS H5N1; green tea, antiviral and decreases fluid production;resveratol, STOPS/interfears with YOUR cells from manufactoring viral cells; Vitamine E, stops fluid production.

Also, IF you already have it, AVOID the following: Honey, chocolate, calcium, magnesium, dairy products and bananas, as they ALL cause INCREASRE in lung fluid !

Eagle

Educational bump !

Regular bump to save lives !

This same article keeps being posted on various websites. It's a few years old. All it means is the BF went through one mutation out of many it needs to go through to be communicable human to human. Note it says nothing about H1N1, and I think it would if it were current.

Also, the big threat is if H1N1 were to recombine with H5N1, which it is pretty much expected to do over this summer in Egypt or Asia.

Likely scenerio for Second Degree Doom that is almost due per the TimeTable of Doom.

freezing your chicken destoys bird flu. cooking fresh chicken at 400 degrees in a oven will kill bird flu . use a lid that seals while food cooks to hold in flavor and vitamins, a small cast iron dutch oven might work well. just put a small rack inside and on the bottom of the dutch oven to hold the chicken above of the chicken grease. pressure cookers might kill the virus also..