Bush will veto legislation to end waterboarding!

Absolutely. More wrong, in fact, because we have 220 years of principle that stands against it.

Unfortunately, this topic is no longer about torture. It's about "911 TRUTH!!!1111@#@".

I LIKE my fits of retard rage.

Now, answer the question.

Are you doing that on purpose?

GRR you can't deny 911 is what put all this torture and war business in motion

I LIKE my fits of retard rage.
i like them too. You're adorable.
911 makes me sick.Literally.
I live near the family of John Titus whose daughter died as a stewardess on flight 11.
I watched them grieve and I watched them going from "official story" people to looking at the fact that the "official story" is a pack of lies. They say that quite openly now.
i wish i never had to talk about 911 again.
My conscience makes me do it.
If you feel good about letting the lie live, well that is you. No law against it I suppose....

Sure I can. 911 is only the most recent excuse.

So, you won't answer the question.

I figured as much.

Now, don't you have any other subversive threads to destroy, FOL? You've pretty much killed this one. Hop to it.

one of the reasons bush gave for going into iraq was that saddam tortured his people but who is torturing the people now?

saddam killed his people but who is killing them now?

people were raped under saddam but don't you think more are raped now?

if the US saved them from saddam who will save them from the US?

As far as I can determine, The Good Reverend has accused me of being a disinfo agent.
If that has been the effect of what I do, I am sorry.
But I will state boldly this was NEVER my intention.
If others feel I have done this, please let me know...here or pm. Thanks FoL

Live by the sword, and then you will die by the sword.

MR. Bush

It will be what you cause to happen to others, that will come upon YOU !

No threat, from me, it is just how the Justice on high works !


Not a Pacifist TBN go along to get along, type fake Christian, here !





Glory to The God of Jacob, JESUS Christ the King.

Well, I see the bastard went ahead and vetoed the bill! May he reap what he sows!

Japanese were executed after world war two for waterboarding Americans.

Would that set a precedent to get Bush executed by a world court?

You would think so!

Bump

Speaking of waterboarding, news article today about a terror suspect unlawfully detained and tortured with this method -planetbarb


From Carol Cratty
CNN

[link to www.cnn.com]
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Lawyers for one of the administration's most prized detainees in the war on terror are challenging their client's detention as unlawful -- contending he was never a member of al Qaeda and never tried to harm Americans.

Alleged terrorist Abu Zubaydah is being unjustifiably detained at Guantanamo Bay, his lawyers say.

The prisoner, Abu Zubaydah, is one of three detainees upon whom the United States has admitted using waterboarding, or simulated drowning, during interrogation.

His lawyers are contesting Zubaydah's six years of detention and filed a lengthy petition last month with the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington. That filing was unsealed Monday.

In the filing, his lawyers say Zubaydah is not an enemy combatant and is "not a member of either the Taliban or al Qaeda" and that he "did not cause or attempt to cause any harm to American personnel or property" before his March 2002 capture in Pakistan. He initially was held by the CIA in secret facilities.

The filing also quotes former FBI agent Daniel Coleman as describing Zubaydah as a sort of travel agent for al Qaeda who "knew very little about real operations." Coleman is also quoted as calling the alleged terrorist insane.

The legal document says Zubaydah "has not been afforded any procedures that would satisfy even the most basic notions of due process" and complains about his treatment during severe interrogation sessions at CIA facilities overseas.
Zubaydah and other high-value detainees were transferred to the Pentagon's custody at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in September 2006.

One of Zubaydah's lawyers, Brent Mickum, said the government did not respond to any requests for classified information to support claims that Zubaydah is a terrorist.
Mickum and fellow lawyer Joseph Margulies had to base everything in the court filing on what is available in the public record, including numerous references to Zubaydah in the news media and in books.

After filing the petition challenging Zubaydah's detention, Mickum and Margulies traveled to Guantanamo and met Zubaydah for the first time in late February. Mickum said he's not allowed to talk about the substance of the discussions with his client or his physical condition. The legal team plans to return for a second meeting in April.
The United States has maintained Zubaydah was an important al Qaeda logistics handler.

In documents released at the time of his transfer to Guantanamo Bay, the government said he was recruited by Osama bin Laden to be a senior al Qaeda travel facilitator but that he later was a director at one of al Qaeda's training camps.
The documents said he was trained in the use of explosives and the art of forgery. The government also said at the time of his capture that Zubaydah "was trying to organize a terrorist attack in Israel."

Thankyou so much for that.

It is good to see so much 'active' passion.

When i was growing up, my dad hated the idea of Flouridated water so much that he installed a rain tank. That water was sooooo sweet compared to the crap they lot feed us.