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so is it the end times? or not?

 
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How old is your youngest?

she is eight and a half...
she is very confused..
she is very chaotic...
she has memory and power she left...
meaning, locked up tight...
it was all my fault..
my energy configuration during her pregnancy...
direct reflection of my emotional state spiritual balance at the time...

i always said i would leave the option of another one open for the right new man... well, the right man came... and he would like to see the energy of us manifest in a child... a very close friend of mine has recently become a new father to a light baby... and this very same friend who rarely dreams of me, yet was my psi partner for some years, had a three hour dream revolving around a particular age (36) and whether to have a baby or not... said multiple beings came by to say their peace on the subject after i expressed my fear that i was too old to have another... said the calculations regarding age, and entity weigh in took the bulk of the dream... seemed that i had no reason not to...

dream ended
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You don't feel like you are actually pregnant now do you? Like in the very early stages or what have you.

As for your daughter, I would tend to think that part of why she doesn't like the idea of you having another kid, is because if you do, then she's not the baby anymore. This would mean she would get less attention then she does now, given that the new life would require so much of it. Could be wrong, but just a thought.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Oh, by the way, if anyone missed it, my last post was sarcasm.
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We've been in the end times since 9/11
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I suspect it is the first woe/war/horror.
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You don't feel like you are actually pregnant now do you? Like in the very early stages or what have you.

As for your daughter, I would tend to think that part of why she doesn't like the idea of you having another kid, is because if you do, then she's not the baby anymore. This would mean she would get less attention then she does now, given that the new life would require so much of it. Could be wrong, but just a thought.
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oh, no... but i am ripe for it each month... hahaha... meaning... there have been twice where my energy could have made one, but i chose not to... i am not yet 36 anyway... i am not in a position right now where i could feel comfortable with bringing a baby into the world... must work first... and yeah, she wants to be the baby... but she is coming round... we were cutting images for our new vision board project, and she cut a picture out of a baby boy lounging and looking in a baby blue sofa... she is too old for the kind of attention she demands... her perspective need be turned around a great deal in some things... and she was the one... SHE was the one who said they come to teach adults about how to be like a little baby and smell all the flowers...
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Oh, by the way, if anyone missed it, my last post was sarcasm.
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yeah... i saw it...

;)
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some have mentioned that the place we appear to be in the biblical apocalypse is just prior to the thousand year reign of the badd'un... others have mentioned that there is supposed to be an immediate consciousness shift around the corner of four years...

some say there are holes in the ionosphere

some say the chips are coming and we shall be enslaved

some say every generation believes it is in the end times...

what say you?


I don't happen to believe the "end times" is what we've been taught in Sunday School. I believe it's more along the lines of what has been taught by people like Jordan Maxwell and Michael Tsarion...that it's the "end of an age," and we are approaching the actual "age of aquarius."
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I relate to this.

:)
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Oh, by the way, if anyone missed it, my last post was sarcasm.
yeah... i saw it...

;)
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Somehow, I knew you would.
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We've been in the end times since 9/11
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Please elaborate. Which year? Is that November 9 or September 11, or the Jewish 9th of Av?
Why is that date significant to you?
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i am not yet 36 anyway... i am not in a position right now where i could feel comfortable with bringing a baby into the world... must work first... and yeah, she wants to be the baby... but she is coming round... we were cutting images for our new vision board project, and she cut a picture out of a baby boy lounging and looking in a baby blue sofa... she is too old for the kind of attention she demands... her perspective need be turned around a great deal in some things... and she was the one... SHE was the one who said they come to teach adults about how to be like a little baby and smell all the flowers...
 Quoting: SunRa


I know it probably seems obvious, but I'm assuming you mean because of your own situation you'd rather hold off on another, and not cause of the world situation right? Just double checking that I understand you correctly.

That's real deep what your daughter said, especially when she's only 8 and a half. How old was she when she said that?
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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We've been in the end times since 9/11

Please elaborate. Which year? Is that November 9 or September 11, or the Jewish 9th of Av?
Why is that date significant to you?
 Quoting: Isaac Brock died for us


May I?

In 1901 oil was found at Spindletop.
In 2001 something happened that kept oil in US hands.
In 1908 we drove the world's first production car.
In 2008 I would suggest that the gig is up.

If 9/11 is the first horror, then there are still two more to come.
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i am not yet 36 anyway... i am not in a position right now where i could feel comfortable with bringing a baby into the world... must work first... and yeah, she wants to be the baby... but she is coming round... we were cutting images for our new vision board project, and she cut a picture out of a baby boy lounging and looking in a baby blue sofa... she is too old for the kind of attention she demands... her perspective need be turned around a great deal in some things... and she was the one... SHE was the one who said they come to teach adults about how to be like a little baby and smell all the flowers...


I know it probably seems obvious, but I'm assuming you mean because of your own situation you'd rather hold off on another, and not cause of the world situation right? Just double checking that I understand you correctly.

That's real deep what your daughter said, especially when she's only 8 and a half. How old was she when she said that?
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she was three when she told me that before she came to live with me she was on a space ship... and that she is on a super secret mission here that she cant tell me about... then came the little baby/flower smelling thing when about three and a half...

i want to be in a semi self sustainable place, if not fully... my three are in school and i have not anything to show for all my work over the years except three very well behaved intelligent loving children... which is good and all... but land with a well and some rain in its season would be well to do with too... i believe i am over my fear of bringing a child into the world during the desired rise of the fourth reich or whatever... i just desire to have a sustainable garden and lifestyle so as to be home with the child and be centered enough to unschool from birth to adult...
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That's real deep what your daughter said, especially when she's only 8 and a half. How old was she when she said that?

she was three when she told me that before she came to live with me she was on a space ship... and that she is on a super secret mission here that she cant tell me about... then came the little baby/flower smelling thing when about three and a half...

i want to be in a semi self sustainable place, if not fully... my three are in school and i have not anything to show for all my work over the years except three very well behaved intelligent loving children... which is good and all... but land with a well and some rain in its season would be well to do with too... i believe i am over my fear of bringing a child into the world during the desired rise of the fourth reich or whatever... i just desire to have a sustainable garden and lifestyle so as to be home with the child and be centered enough to unschool from birth to adult...
 Quoting: SunRa


Wow, that's even more amazing. As they say, out of the mouths of babes.....

You know I had a thought, that may help in dealing with her and the possibility of a new baby. Perhaps you could explain to her, that by having this new person in the house, that it would help her to grow up, and start to become her own person, not so independent on mom anymore. At her age she doesn't need to be so much though anyhow as you have said.

Do you feel like you could handle another child now or not? I'm getting the impression you don't think so, but I could be wrong.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Do you feel like you could handle another child now or not? I'm getting the impression you don't think so, but I could be wrong.
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i had to do what i have with my three by myself with no money period... plus, i am an empathic basket case from time to time with highly sensitive perceptual shifts... caught in the global mind/emotion of facing that which we ourselves have created...
babies take much energy... i had all three of mine in a row, one after another... it was very tedious... especially under the personal circumstances of whom i was with at the beginning... i dont have time or energy for a baby at this time... i barely have time for what is already on my plate... yes, your sense is correct... the time is not now... but maybe... in two years...

*edit...
i place much importance of the quality of raising children... it is anyone who can pretend they are a parent and go to work and come home and check over homework and make sure beds are made... it is not anyone who can really get to know and understand the child so as to help guide them in their journey upon this earth place and put it in terms that are truly helpful to them...

i used to be so arrogant
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i place much importance of the quality of raising children... it is anyone who can pretend they are a parent and go to work and come home and check over homework and make sure beds are made... it is not anyone who can really get to know and understand the child so as to help guide them in their journey upon this earth place and put it in terms that are truly helpful to them...
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I definitely agree with this, a lot of parents today I don't think know what it means to be that. They consider "parenting" plopping their kids in front of a TV for a few hours, or sending them to daycare while they go out and do their own thing. All too often it's more about them, then the kids they have borne. They don't really take the time needed to get to know their child, much less rear them and discipline them as they should.

It's no wonder so many are kids spoiled rotten, and brats to boot. They were raised that way, given everything on a silver platter, not being told no, etc. It's all they ever knew.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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Oh, by the way, if anyone missed it, my last post was sarcasm.
 Quoting: Matty Bumpo

Hahahaha.

I almost replied, thought you were giving a great example of the old energy.

And now this post, showing the new energy, you answered the theoretical thread-question very clearly in two posts, amazing. lol

Peace
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Do you feel like you could handle another child now or not? I'm getting the impression you don't think so, but I could be wrong.

i had to do what i have with my three by myself with no money period... plus, i am an empathic basket case from time to time with highly sensitive perceptual shifts... caught in the global mind/emotion of facing that which we ourselves have created...
babies take much energy... i had all three of mine in a row, one after another... it was very tedious... especially under the personal circumstances of whom i was with at the beginning... i dont have time or energy for a baby at this time... i barely have time for what is already on my plate... yes, your sense is correct... the time is not now... but maybe... in two years...
 Quoting: SunRa


I can completely understand your feelings for waiting for another, but at the same time there is a risk there I think of waiting for a time that never actually comes. I mean who knows what things will be like 2 or 3 years from now, or if we'll even be here then. Looking at it from that perspective, I sort of feel that you should do it while you still have the chance.

Not to come across as rude or uncaring or anything like that mind you, but that's kind of how I see it.
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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interesting...

but it has already been decided... from the other side... ether plane... destiny?

i shall have my last child in two years...
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interesting...

but it has already been decided... from the other side... ether plane... destiny?
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I'm not so sure about all that, while there are no coincidences and things do happen for a reason, I think on some level we do create our own destiny. Each situation, brings with it different choices, each one taking us down a different path. We can make a good choice, a bad choice, or one that isn't really one or the other. Our life then bears out the result of those choices.

If you really did want to, you could have the baby now. You don't neccessarily have to wait 2 years, because of a dream someone had or whatever.

Not all dreams are indicative of reality anyway. Sometimes they can just be a result of what a person may be thinking at a particular time. Case in point, I had known a girl not too long ago who I thought for sure I was meant to marry.

One afternoon I had a dream that I was talking with her, and that I had told her we were getting married on such and such a date. At the time I thought it was a sign (one of many) that this was meant to be. But as it turned out things didn't work out for various reasons, so in essence the dream was just that, a dream created by my own thoughts at the time.

Perhaps your friend was thinking about a baby when he had his dream?

BTW, kind of off topic but what's PSI stand for?
No one is perfect. A babe before walking will first stumble and fall many times but NEVER gives up until he succeeds.

Always remember, ultimately, to never follow any person's belief. Your relationship with God is between you and God.

If nothing else, remember this: religion = subservience, control and conformity, the same template as EVERY government

"Most believers would kill truth if truth threatened their religion." L. K. Washburn

"This crime called blasphemy was invented by priests for the purpose of defending doctrines not able to take care of themselves." Robert Ingersoll

"If anyone wants to know how God feels, it's a warm light as if the sun is poking through dark clouds and lifting your spirits with pure joy."
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I think we are living in the End Times. I think it started when Israel became a nation again & retook Jerusalem. And they've been fighting to keep it ever since.

I think Israel is where the major events of the End Times will take place, so therefore that's where we need to keep watch. I think they will be invaded by a coalition of Arab & other Muslim nations again; perhaps this time led by Russia.

The USA will not come to Israel's aid this time. For whatever reason, this time Israel will have no willing allies to defend itself. Somehow, the USA- Israel's closest ally, will be either unwilling (due to an unfriendly president?) or unable (due to internal problems?) to come to Israel's defence. Israel will fight this battle alone, and will win it with divine assistance alone.

I think this war will really spark the beginning of sorrows in the End Times. Everything from this point forward will just get worse and worse. It could develop into WWIII. The USA will probably have its hands full with a total economic collapse and/or worse by then.

Then enters upon the world stage the man that people will believe will solve all the world's problems...

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There have always been agenda’s. Each side calling the other side evil, each side with their champions, each side believing their answers is the one that are from the true GOD.

Many are born hear with the words already formed in their minds, their position solidified, their side chosen. IT has been this way for a long time, yet we are feeling it more in each generation, as each proceeding generation has laid foundations for the next, each time with greater effort and more energy used for manifesting competing intentions of existence.

Each day they grow their circles of influence, yet in each growth a compromise, like politicians trying to bring more into the fold by broadening the agenda. Each compromise coming with a cost, each cost paid for in sacrifices of unimaginable proportions.

The once many bannered fields are now falling behind the banners of a few, and those who manifest easiest with group thought find there lives less complicated, yet still frustrating, since they too have compromised to be of one affiliation or another, bending their energies into the conformity of the side they have chosen, often sacrificing a former agenda for what they felt was the lesser of evils.

Those like myself grow fewer in each generation as we grow more and more tempted to choose a side, and become less capable of holding the center. Soon there will be to few of us to matter and the middle will collapse and be gone, this is when the change will commence in full.

There are beings so old I am not sure they were ever corporeal, powers so grand that the mind has little capacity to grasp the true scope of their nature and power, and still each of us is needed, each one of many needed to slowly tip the scale one way or the other.

You ever notice how all these beings professing love and truth as their guiding light have such difficulty getting along, it would seem that love and light alone would make them work together. This seldom happens though, some blame it on ego, some say it is fraud, some say it is the misguided travels of the soul, or just karma. One thing is sure though entities professing that love is the answer have a great deal of misunderstandings between them. Could it be all those aligned with these different agendas all believe they are of love and light?

The times are changing, the fast and furious pace setting more and more entities on edge as they struggle to keep up with the frantic energy that drives them constantly and unceasingly towards their goals. Hidden beneath the surface of every desire is another desire, and beneath that a grander desire, and behind that the agenda, the greatest of desires.

Compassion and forgiveness can show us each other’s spirits and souls, they are great tools, yet even these great weapons have not been able to bring about the desired results many hoped they would. Like a peace accord signed by leaders that could not deliver their peoples, compassion and forgiveness are failing to garner supporters in great enough numbers to turn the tide.

This is my world, and I was born to be one of her Champaign’s, tarnished, and blemished, she is still the greatest of beauties to me, and as long as I am here I will do my best to fulfill the position I agreed to hold in this world, bringing the messages and simple understandings I was here to bring. Forgive each other, have compassion for each other, in this there is peace.

I will miss this world when it is my time to leave; yet many of us know that this is probably our last trip here, as our energies will no longer fit within the agenda of the planet. We will move on, some as victors whose gifts or skills are no longer needed some, as the vanquished that are no longer desired. I am not sure which I will be, given the role I play but, I can since that the climax is nearing and the center is soon to be no more. Maybe this generation, maybe the next, to many this might seem to be a long time frame to others it is like moments away.
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Cool or cool.
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some have mentioned that the place we appear to be in the biblical apocalypse is just prior to the thousand year reign of the badd'un... others have mentioned that there is supposed to be an immediate consciousness shift around the corner of four years...

some say there are holes in the ionosphere

some say the chips are coming and we shall be enslaved

some say every generation believes it is in the end times...

what say you?
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Some also belive the bible is a lie. freewill my ass on a predetermind future.

the paths will split like atlantis "sank"
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Cool or cool.
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how about not cool lol
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Interesting that no one on this thread has mentioned that this is the beginning.

We're seeing the end of the age of darkness, the end of death, the end of the exploration of good and evil. We've experienced enough evil that we understand it well.

This marks the beginning of the age of light and of life. Soon it will be time to have some fun and learn all there is to know about joy.


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Interesting that no one on this thread has mentioned that this is the beginning.

We're seeing the end of the age of darkness, the end of death, the end of the exploration of good and evil. We've experienced enough evil that we understand it well.

This marks the beginning of the age of light and of life. Soon it will be time to have some fun and learn all there is to know about joy.


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not on this thread, but many that post here champion the no duality theory, it is one of my favorites
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We have about 138 years yet.
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Interesting that no one on this thread has mentioned that this is the beginning.

We're seeing the end of the age of darkness, the end of death, the end of the exploration of good and evil. We've experienced enough evil that we understand it well.

This marks the beginning of the age of light and of life. Soon it will be time to have some fun and learn all there is to know about joy.


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And when I was 4 years old Santa, the easter bunny and the tooth fairy were all real too.

And George Bush is a fine, upstanding patriot who cares for the American people.
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Interesting that no one on this thread has mentioned that this is the beginning.

We're seeing the end of the age of darkness, the end of death, the end of the exploration of good and evil. We've experienced enough evil that we understand it well.

This marks the beginning of the age of light and of life. Soon it will be time to have some fun and learn all there is to know about joy.

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Actually, a couple of people have noted that this is the beginning. Its an important distinction. The end of the old and the beginning of the new ... when we stop fearing THE END, we finally can embrace THE BEGINNING!
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Interesting that no one on this thread has mentioned that this is the beginning.

We're seeing the end of the age of darkness, the end of death, the end of the exploration of good and evil. We've experienced enough evil that we understand it well.

This marks the beginning of the age of light and of life. Soon it will be time to have some fun and learn all there is to know about joy.


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 388132


Amen to that, spring of 2010

Exodus 12:1-2 1THEN Yahvah spoke to Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying, 2This month will be to you the beginning of months; it will be the 1st month of the year to you.





GLP