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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80876882 United States 06/23/2022 07:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! I've seen fish around 20 feet long in the great lakes. Can't catch them though. Someone told me they're sturgeons. I've tried to catch them on a baited hook, they swim on by. Just go for a row in a dinghy on a calm day. Eventually you'll see tails and fins floating out of the water. Anyone else see those? Can confirm what they are? [link to oodmag.com (secure)] The late Ted Holiday wrote two excellent treatises on the phenomenon: The Dragon and the Disc and The Goblin Universe. In the first book he held a rather beneficent view of these lake monsters, but as he researched more deeply, he came to the same conclusions in his second book that researchers such as the late John Keel and myself reached: that these are manifestations of evil, and not to be trifled with. One thing that he emphasized regarding these manifestations: they were often observed in bodies of water that were far too small to support or accommodate them. Much in the samecway as the food needs of a breeding population of Sasquatch could not be supported in many areas where they are seen, so it is with lake monsters; both are ephemeral, and likely interdimensional. Both books are out of print, but I believe that they are available on Kindle. Get hold of the second book if you can get only one. Its very possible there are portals on or above the water of the Great Lakes, and what is being seen is actually from a different time. Just saying... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83740466 United Kingdom 06/23/2022 07:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! I've seen fish around 20 feet long in the great lakes. Can't catch them though. Someone told me they're sturgeons. I've tried to catch them on a baited hook, they swim on by. Just go for a row in a dinghy on a calm day. Eventually you'll see tails and fins floating out of the water. Anyone else see those? Can confirm what they are? [link to oodmag.com (secure)] The late Ted Holiday wrote two excellent treatises on the phenomenon: The Dragon and the Disc and The Goblin Universe. In the first book he held a rather beneficent view of these lake monsters, but as he researched more deeply, he came to the same conclusions in his second book that researchers such as the late John Keel and myself reached: that these are manifestations of evil, and not to be trifled with. One thing that he emphasized regarding these manifestations: they were often observed in bodies of water that were far too small to support or accommodate them. Much in the samecway as the food needs of a breeding population of Sasquatch could not be supported in many areas where they are seen, so it is with lake monsters; both are ephemeral, and likely interdimensional. Both books are out of print, but I believe that they are available on Kindle. Get hold of the second book if you can get only one. Its very possible there are portals on or above the water of the Great Lakes, and what is being seen is actually from a different time. Just saying... Earth and the solar syatem move constantly though and huge distances are covered in a single day. Going back in time would land you in space if you cleared the earth and any rocks etc. Luckily spacetime as a concept is totally wrong. There is no time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82874400 United States 06/23/2022 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grew up n the finger lakes region. Fished them all for over 30 years. There are some lunkers, for sure. Caught some myself. "Monsters" though? Uhh, no. Any fisherman worth his salt would laugh in your face at the mention of any lake monster. They simply don't exist. Oh and Nessy was proven to simply be a group of sturgeon. And how long was that bullshit story of the loch ness monster been told. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82671292 United States 06/23/2022 08:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! Lake Michigan for sure has something down there. If Loch Ness and these other puddle lakes have something then the Big Blue does for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82671292 United States 06/23/2022 08:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! I've seen fish around 20 feet long in the great lakes. Can't catch them though. Someone told me they're sturgeons. I've tried to catch them on a baited hook, they swim on by. Just go for a row in a dinghy on a calm day. Eventually you'll see tails and fins floating out of the water. Anyone else see those? Can confirm what they are? [link to oodmag.com (secure)] The late Ted Holiday wrote two excellent treatises on the phenomenon: The Dragon and the Disc and The Goblin Universe. In the first book he held a rather beneficent view of these lake monsters, but as he researched more deeply, he came to the same conclusions in his second book that researchers such as the late John Keel and myself reached: that these are manifestations of evil, and not to be trifled with. One thing that he emphasized regarding these manifestations: they were often observed in bodies of water that were far too small to support or accommodate them. Much in the samecway as the food needs of a breeding population of Sasquatch could not be supported in many areas where they are seen, so it is with lake monsters; both are ephemeral, and likely interdimensional. Both books are out of print, but I believe that they are available on Kindle. Get hold of the second book if you can get only one. Its very possible there are portals on or above the water of the Great Lakes, and what is being seen is actually from a different time. Just saying... Yes the Great Lakes triangle exists !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83524796 United States 06/23/2022 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! I've seen fish around 20 feet long in the great lakes. Can't catch them though. Someone told me they're sturgeons. I've tried to catch them on a baited hook, they swim on by. Just go for a row in a dinghy on a calm day. Eventually you'll see tails and fins floating out of the water. Anyone else see those? Can confirm what they are? [link to oodmag.com (secure)] The late Ted Holiday wrote two excellent treatises on the phenomenon: The Dragon and the Disc and The Goblin Universe. In the first book he held a rather beneficent view of these lake monsters, but as he researched more deeply, he came to the same conclusions in his second book that researchers such as the late John Keel and myself reached: that these are manifestations of evil, and not to be trifled with. One thing that he emphasized regarding these manifestations: they were often observed in bodies of water that were far too small to support or accommodate them. Much in the samecway as the food needs of a breeding population of Sasquatch could not be supported in many areas where they are seen, so it is with lake monsters; both are ephemeral, and likely interdimensional. Both books are out of print, but I believe that they are available on Kindle. Get hold of the second book if you can get only one. John Keel is a huckster and barely believed his own drivel. The level of ignorance displayed here is appalling. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83524796 United States 06/23/2022 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grew up n the finger lakes region. Fished them all for over 30 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82874400 There are some lunkers, for sure. Caught some myself. "Monsters" though? Uhh, no. Any fisherman worth his salt would laugh in your face at the mention of any lake monster. They simply don't exist. Oh and Nessy was proven to simply be a group of sturgeon. And how long was that bullshit story of the loch ness monster been told. So, because you or your cronies have never seen such a thing, they don’t exist. Go back to swilling cheap beer and gutting fish, and leave the mysteries of the planet to others. It’s for the best. You couldn’t handle the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83524796 United States 06/23/2022 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dunno, but my grandmother showed me a newspaper clipping from the 1940's when I was a kid of a mermaid that washed up dead on a California beach. I still remember its teeth and how evil it looked! It was very small, less than 2 feet long. But it was real and had long black hair. Quoting: FightForGod! Yes, real mermaids aren’t the lovely, half-human females popular culture, as popular culture depicts them, but much more like what was in that clipping. They’re from the same source as lake and sea monsters, and just as diabolical. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82874400 United States 06/23/2022 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grew up n the finger lakes region. Fished them all for over 30 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82874400 There are some lunkers, for sure. Caught some myself. "Monsters" though? Uhh, no. Any fisherman worth his salt would laugh in your face at the mention of any lake monster. They simply don't exist. Oh and Nessy was proven to simply be a group of sturgeon. And how long was that bullshit story of the loch ness monster been told. So, because you or your cronies have never seen such a thing, they don’t exist. Go back to swilling cheap beer and gutting fish, and leave the mysteries of the planet to others. It’s for the best. You couldn’t handle the truth. 1. I don't drink. 2. Bet you couldn't gut a fish if your life depended on it. How about you go back to trying to convince people that the blurry picture of a log you have is bigfoot, and crawl back in your faraday caged bed with you tin foil nightcap on and get some rest. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83524796 United States 06/23/2022 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grew up n the finger lakes region. Fished them all for over 30 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82874400 There are some lunkers, for sure. Caught some myself. "Monsters" though? Uhh, no. Any fisherman worth his salt would laugh in your face at the mention of any lake monster. They simply don't exist. Oh and Nessy was proven to simply be a group of sturgeon. And how long was that bullshit story of the loch ness monster been told. So, because you or your cronies have never seen such a thing, they don’t exist. Go back to swilling cheap beer and gutting fish, and leave the mysteries of the planet to others. It’s for the best. You couldn’t handle the truth. 1. I don't drink. 2. Bet you couldn't gut a fish if your life depended on it. How about you go back to trying to convince people that the blurry picture of a log you have is bigfoot, and crawl back in your faraday caged bed with you tin foil nightcap on and get some rest. 1. Dope, then? 2. Fished all my life, son. You need to get out more. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78965855 United States 06/23/2022 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was fishing Lake St Clair in MI about 20 years ago with my buddy who was part of the Bassmasters. He would put us on small mouth beds where we would jig and hook small mouth. Fun to catch... We switched to spinners and I attached a "Big-un" spinner bait - I think that was the brand - to my line. I hooked into something in deeper water. I thought I had snagged a log as the line was just dragged to the bottom and my pole was bent. It slowly let "loose" and what rose to the surface was a huge "log" bigger then the 20' bass boat were were on. I went to try and unhook my spinner lure and only then did I realize it was a fish!! My bassmaster buddy was at the front of the boat watching. When he realized what it was he dropped his pole, said "Holy shit!!" and turned to come to the back of the boat. The fish made a huge roll, snapped the line and was gone! I will never forget that experience! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82874400 United States 06/23/2022 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Grew up n the finger lakes region. Fished them all for over 30 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82874400 There are some lunkers, for sure. Caught some myself. "Monsters" though? Uhh, no. Any fisherman worth his salt would laugh in your face at the mention of any lake monster. They simply don't exist. Oh and Nessy was proven to simply be a group of sturgeon. And how long was that bullshit story of the loch ness monster been told. So, because you or your cronies have never seen such a thing, they don’t exist. Go back to swilling cheap beer and gutting fish, and leave the mysteries of the planet to others. It’s for the best. You couldn’t handle the truth. 1. I don't drink. 2. Bet you couldn't gut a fish if your life depended on it. How about you go back to trying to convince people that the blurry picture of a log you have is bigfoot, and crawl back in your faraday caged bed with you tin foil nightcap on and get some rest. 1. Dope, then? 2. Fished all my life, son. You need to get out more. You sure like to project there kiddo. I guarantee I have been "out" longer than you have been alive. So shut you little pie hole and go see if mommy has warmed your hot cocoa yet. |
VISITOR User ID: 78037273 United States 06/23/2022 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dunno, but my grandmother showed me a newspaper clipping from the 1940's when I was a kid of a mermaid that washed up dead on a California beach. I still remember its teeth and how evil it looked! It was very small, less than 2 feet long. But it was real and had long black hair. Quoting: FightForGod! a "starbucks" syrene. lures men into her trap through seduction, then eats them. enjoy your coffee at the sign of the witch |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76811476 United States 06/23/2022 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the record, I am an extremely experienced fisherman, Great Lakes, Florida Keys billfish, etc., and have caught almost everything that swims. Here is my story. I was fishing in Lake St Clair, at the mouth of the Detroit river. I was in waders fishing a rockpile off a park that is in the area. We were casting bomber minnows, and often caught walleye this time of year at night. This night it was absolutely dead calm, not a ripple, dead, dead calm. I could hear noises across the lake from Canada, miles away. We basically figured out after a while, the fish would not bite until a wave came buy to stir things up. So, we would wait for a boat, freighter wave, whatever to roll in, and when they did, we would cast as fast as we could and almost always hook up. The fish were waiting for the minnows to get stirred up. Well, that is a side story, the fishing part. The monster part is this. I was standing in the water, casting during one of those dead calm periods, just to try and do something, even though no wave was on the way. Like I said, so calm, and the lake can carry voices for miles on nights like this. Well, I heard something off of what I would guess was somewhere near the tip of Peche Island. Hard to describe with words, but I will try. I heard a splash. It sounded like somebody dropped a car from 20 feet above the water. It was like a big fawooooomp, and then a lingering after splash. The aftersplash lasted for I would say 7 seconds. Well, it was 30 years ago, but I remember it clearly and I guarantee, it happened, witnessed by the 2 of us, something we will never forget. If I had to guess, it was one of two things. I have heard stories of catfish in that area. There is a deep spot called the sturgeon hole there, so of course, sturgeon are there too. I have heard of divers saying they almost swam into the mouth of what they at first thought was a cave, but it was actually a catfish, so big, it was like a cave. No rod and real is going to land one of them they would say, and it as more than one diver thru the years telling the same tale, so the story goes. So imho, it was either a giant catfish, or a giant sturgeon that I would guess from the splash would be over 2000 pounds. Catfish rarely jump, and sturgeon do often, so my guess, a 2000 pound 15-20 foot long sturgeon. |
MountainTux NLI User ID: 82391005 Canada 06/23/2022 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Giant Sturgeon in the lakes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73150321 I don't know about 20 foot long ones, that would be extremely big. I've seen 7 foot Sturgeon in fairly small streams before tho. You catch them by sight, see em and float the bait into their mouths basically. Maybe they can get massive out in the lakes but don't think I have ever even heard of one that was 20 foot long, pretty sure I would remember that. And they don't really go up on the surface, they're basically bottom feeders. Actually, White Sturgeon, the most common across North America, are known to grow up to about 19 3/4 feet, and over a ton in weight (1400lb.) I assume those would be the ones that are over 100 years old. Interesting read for you... [link to www.rivermenrodandgunclub.com] ad ignorantiam - The assumption of a conclusion or fact based primarily on lack of evidence to the contrary. Usually best described by, “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82666218 United States 06/26/2022 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was fishing Lake St Clair in MI about 20 years ago with my buddy who was part of the Bassmasters. He would put us on small mouth beds where we would jig and hook small mouth. Fun to catch... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965855 We switched to spinners and I attached a "Big-un" spinner bait - I think that was the brand - to my line. I hooked into something in deeper water. I thought I had snagged a log as the line was just dragged to the bottom and my pole was bent. It slowly let "loose" and what rose to the surface was a huge "log" bigger then the 20' bass boat were were on. I went to try and unhook my spinner lure and only then did I realize it was a fish!! My bassmaster buddy was at the front of the boat watching. When he realized what it was he dropped his pole, said "Holy shit!!" and turned to come to the back of the boat. The fish made a huge roll, snapped the line and was gone! I will never forget that experience! That’s awesome! Any guesses about what it was? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82666218 United States 06/26/2022 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the record, I am an extremely experienced fisherman, Great Lakes, Florida Keys billfish, etc., and have caught almost everything that swims. Here is my story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76811476 I was fishing in Lake St Clair, at the mouth of the Detroit river. I was in waders fishing a rockpile off a park that is in the area. We were casting bomber minnows, and often caught walleye this time of year at night. This night it was absolutely dead calm, not a ripple, dead, dead calm. I could hear noises across the lake from Canada, miles away. We basically figured out after a while, the fish would not bite until a wave came buy to stir things up. So, we would wait for a boat, freighter wave, whatever to roll in, and when they did, we would cast as fast as we could and almost always hook up. The fish were waiting for the minnows to get stirred up. Well, that is a side story, the fishing part. The monster part is this. I was standing in the water, casting during one of those dead calm periods, just to try and do something, even though no wave was on the way. Like I said, so calm, and the lake can carry voices for miles on nights like this. Well, I heard something off of what I would guess was somewhere near the tip of Peche Island. Hard to describe with words, but I will try. I heard a splash. It sounded like somebody dropped a car from 20 feet above the water. It was like a big fawooooomp, and then a lingering after splash. The aftersplash lasted for I would say 7 seconds. Well, it was 30 years ago, but I remember it clearly and I guarantee, it happened, witnessed by the 2 of us, something we will never forget. If I had to guess, it was one of two things. I have heard stories of catfish in that area. There is a deep spot called the sturgeon hole there, so of course, sturgeon are there too. I have heard of divers saying they almost swam into the mouth of what they at first thought was a cave, but it was actually a catfish, so big, it was like a cave. No rod and real is going to land one of them they would say, and it as more than one diver thru the years telling the same tale, so the story goes. So imho, it was either a giant catfish, or a giant sturgeon that I would guess from the splash would be over 2000 pounds. Catfish rarely jump, and sturgeon do often, so my guess, a 2000 pound 15-20 foot long sturgeon. Amazing story thank you for typing that up and sharing. Do you think there were larger populations of these mega fish 100 years ago? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82666218 United States 06/26/2022 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! Maybe the Great Lakes but not the small inland lakes that the articles back in the day wrote about. That seems unlikely |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82669140 United States 06/27/2022 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! How could a salt water creature make it in a freshwater lake?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77913764 United States 06/28/2022 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! Yes there are beasts from eons ago that survived the earth changes and dwell in freshwater habitats. “Life….ah….. finds a way” as a famous scientist once said. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77763483 United States 06/30/2022 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A shit load of people saw big ass sea serpents in the Great Lakes over the last century. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82668706 Granted many of the sea serpents people reported back in the 1900s might have been to promote an area lake or bump circulation of newspapers… there seem to be too many to be all hoaxes. [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] Some of the lake monster reports came from reliable sea farers and we’re consistent across decades. Interesting to think what could be lurking in the deep recesses off the Great Lakes! There is a second part to the article now out: [link to theobservermagazine.substack.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83771180 United States 06/30/2022 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83524796 So, because you or your cronies have never seen such a thing, they don’t exist. Go back to swilling cheap beer and gutting fish, and leave the mysteries of the planet to others. It’s for the best. You couldn’t handle the truth. 1. I don't drink. 2. Bet you couldn't gut a fish if your life depended on it. How about you go back to trying to convince people that the blurry picture of a log you have is bigfoot, and crawl back in your faraday caged bed with you tin foil nightcap on and get some rest. 1. Dope, then? 2. Fished all my life, son. You need to get out more. You sure like to project there kiddo. I guarantee I have been "out" longer than you have been alive. So shut you little pie hole and go see if mommy has warmed your hot cocoa yet. Oh look, ignorance on parade. So how long have you been “out”? You’re referring to the closet, of course... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78965855 United States 06/30/2022 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was fishing Lake St Clair in MI about 20 years ago with my buddy who was part of the Bassmasters. He would put us on small mouth beds where we would jig and hook small mouth. Fun to catch... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78965855 We switched to spinners and I attached a "Big-un" spinner bait - I think that was the brand - to my line. I hooked into something in deeper water. I thought I had snagged a log as the line was just dragged to the bottom and my pole was bent. It slowly let "loose" and what rose to the surface was a huge "log" bigger then the 20' bass boat were were on. I went to try and unhook my spinner lure and only then did I realize it was a fish!! My bassmaster buddy was at the front of the boat watching. When he realized what it was he dropped his pole, said "Holy shit!!" and turned to come to the back of the boat. The fish made a huge roll, snapped the line and was gone! I will never forget that experience! That’s awesome! Any guesses about what it was? The only thing I could think of it being was a Sturgeon. I can still see it in my mind all of these years later. It was cool and rather creepy at the same time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81526592 United States 06/30/2022 12:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the record, I am an extremely experienced fisherman, Great Lakes, Florida Keys billfish, etc., and have caught almost everything that swims. Here is my story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76811476 I was fishing in Lake St Clair, at the mouth of the Detroit river. I was in waders fishing a rockpile off a park that is in the area. We were casting bomber minnows, and often caught walleye this time of year at night. This night it was absolutely dead calm, not a ripple, dead, dead calm. I could hear noises across the lake from Canada, miles away. We basically figured out after a while, the fish would not bite until a wave came buy to stir things up. So, we would wait for a boat, freighter wave, whatever to roll in, and when they did, we would cast as fast as we could and almost always hook up. The fish were waiting for the minnows to get stirred up. Well, that is a side story, the fishing part. The monster part is this. I was standing in the water, casting during one of those dead calm periods, just to try and do something, even though no wave was on the way. Like I said, so calm, and the lake can carry voices for miles on nights like this. Well, I heard something off of what I would guess was somewhere near the tip of Peche Island. Hard to describe with words, but I will try. I heard a splash. It sounded like somebody dropped a car from 20 feet above the water. It was like a big fawooooomp, and then a lingering after splash. The aftersplash lasted for I would say 7 seconds. Well, it was 30 years ago, but I remember it clearly and I guarantee, it happened, witnessed by the 2 of us, something we will never forget. If I had to guess, it was one of two things. I have heard stories of catfish in that area. There is a deep spot called the sturgeon hole there, so of course, sturgeon are there too. I have heard of divers saying they almost swam into the mouth of what they at first thought was a cave, but it was actually a catfish, so big, it was like a cave. No rod and real is going to land one of them they would say, and it as more than one diver thru the years telling the same tale, so the story goes. So imho, it was either a giant catfish, or a giant sturgeon that I would guess from the splash would be over 2000 pounds. Catfish rarely jump, and sturgeon do often, so my guess, a 2000 pound 15-20 foot long sturgeon. Amazing story thank you for typing that up and sharing. Do you think there were larger populations of these mega fish 100 years ago? I have spent my life on LSC, and know the history well. There are pictures of what looks like logs piled up on the bank of the Detroit River, but they were not logs, they were sturgeon, but they used to burn them like logs, circa end of the 19th century. By the 60's, sturgeon, whitefish, and even the rare and seldom talked about Lake St Clair lake trout, were very rare or in the case of the trout, totally extirpated. The lake had a permanent population of lake trout once, you hever hear about, that was commercially fished out of existence. I am happy to say, there are trout and salmon in the lake, at least at times now, whitefish are again spawning in the Detroit river,and maybe elsewhere, and there are a TON of sturgeon in the St Clair river, lake and Detroit river now. As far as the question, where there bigger fish once. Almost certainly were more numbers of them in most cases, and old pics and reports of sturgeon in the 300 pound plus range, but as far as 2000 pounders, only undocumented stories of those huge ones, but I think they did, and still do exist. I heard that one 30 years ago per my story that sounded to me, and I am an engineer so pretty good at judging, to be in the 2000 pound or bigger range. Another side story. I once was fishing in the indian reservation of the LSC delta. They had some gill nets in the Chematogan channel, and I and a buddy would pull them up to see what they were getting. It was like in March, so that time of year, besides the suckers and the like, there were many pike and steelhead. But one time, there was a net full of a fish, I had no idea what it was. I even called the DNR, but they blew it off as some crazy story, useless .gov as usual. Anyways, the fish was colored and striped exactly like a yellow perch, similar shape too and size, maybe a tad bigger, but it had a little sucker like mouth on the bottom of its face. The indians would not have been happy to see us messing with their nets, so we quickly plucked one out to see what it was, and took it home. Its flesh was not like a perch at all, it was very oily, so we did not try to cook it or anything, but it had that bright 2 tone green, with yellow and orange on the fins and belly. I forget today what I figured it out to be exactly. I think I determined, some fish I think from Europe and Black Sea, like the now prevalent gobies, and there were hundreds of them in the nets that one day. I have never seen them again, and the DNR thought I was nuts, haha. So yes, there are many mysteries in those lakes, even until this day. |