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Does America have Gun Laws - like Australia?

 
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03/09/2008 10:16 AM
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Does America have Gun Laws - like Australia?
I tell you or what it is worth... to know, a lot of farmers hid their rifles (some were handed down as family relics). inside plastic pipes and buried them underground. The day will come in American should they enforce martial law, so prepare now before the local plumber merchant is told to keep eye open by Homeland Security for unusual purchases.

Here in Port Arthur, Australia, it was a Government set-up conspiracy to disarm the people. The authorities are becoming paranoid here, on a domestic air flight recently, a friend of mine bought a pair of kinky handcuffs interstate (with fluffy wrist bands) from a adult shop, he was detailed at the local airport with x-rays.

THE PORT ARTHUR MASSACRE CONSPIRACY
[link to home.overflow.net.au]

A Beginners Guide to Australian Gun Laws
1. The matter of gun laws was not included in the Australian Constitution when it became operative at the start of the 20th Century, hence gun laws remain within the jurisdiction of the six states (New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland, Western Australia, South Australia and Tasmania) and the two territories (Northern Territory and Australian Capital Territory). The Commonwealth (Australian) government does not have the power to make gun laws but it can control imports. Since 1991 ex-military rifles such as Kalashnikov types, and military style lookalikes such as the Ruger Mini 14 cannot be imported.

2. Major gun massacres occurred in Victoria and NSW in 1987, in NSW 1991 and in Tasmania in 1996. 150 people died in multiple death shootings alone in the decade starting January 1987. Stricter gun laws have only been made in Australia after a major gun massacre. Some states did improve their gun laws in the late 1980's up to the mid-1990's, and to a degree such improvements filtered slowly to all jurisdictions. The gun death rate was noticeably reduced by 1995.

3. The death of 35 people and serious injuries to almost 20 others at Port Arthur on 28 April 1996 prompted the Australian government to urge a meeting of the eight state and territory police ministers to introduce a new and stricter range of gun controls. Three major changes were introduced.

(a) Gun registration was introduced to all eight jurisdictions
(b) Attempts were made to have uniform gun laws throughout Australia
(c) A new standardised gun licensing scheme was put into practice.

This new scheme allowed non-self-loading guns to be readily available but placed restrictions on high capacity self-loading rimfire rifles,
self-loading centrefire rifles and shotguns and pump-action shotguns. These were the types of guns mainly used in Australian gun massacres. The basis for these changes had been laid in 1990 when the National Committee on Violence (NCV) made about 20 recommendations for improved gun controls. The NCV itself was formed as a result of the six gun massacres in 1987.

There were about four million guns in Australia. One million were no longer in the legal category so a gun buy-back scheme was introduced to purchase these. The estimated average price was $500 per gun. Hence 500 million dollars was set aside. Only 640,000 guns were offered for purchase, hence $320 million was used for this purpose. About another 40 million dollars was used for administration and assistance to gun traders. Since the 500 million dollars had come from a medical levy the balance was distributed to medical research and welfare. It should be noted that the total amount spent on purchasing guns was only about 200 million dollars US. It should also be noted that up to 40% of Australian gun owners did not obey the law, making the term 'law abiding shooters' look somewhat ridiculous.

4. Several exemptions to the gun licensing schedule were made by most jurisdictions. Members of certain shotgun target shooting clubs were permitted to use self-loading shotguns and many rural property owners and professional shooters were permitted to use self- loading rifles and shotguns.

5. In Australia, handguns have only been available to bona-fide members of approved pistol clubs and to gun collectors. None of the changes to gun laws made in recent decades have affected the availability of handguns. Non-self-loading long-guns are readily available to Australians who are at least 18 years of age, have no police record and who pass a simple shooters licence test. As Australian gun laws have become stricter in the 1990's gun deaths have lowered; never-the-less, several serious weaknesses remain within the Australian gun law system. Too many Australians still die from gun wounds.

Interested readers should have a look at our [books] on Australian gun laws. [link to www.guncontrol.org.au]
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03/10/2008 02:11 AM
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Re: Does America have Gun Laws - like Australia?
I tell you or what it is worth... to know, a lot of farmers hid their rifles (some were handed down as family relics). inside plastic pipes and buried them underground. The day will come in American should they enforce martial law,
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a good point, but why didn't you aussie's, the 2X version of the american cowboy, kick ass and take over your country?


I'm not being critical, I'm endeavoring to learne when to start shooting...
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03/10/2008 03:35 AM
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I hold a current NSW Firearms Licence/Permit (my parents own a farming property) and let me assure you that the present Australian firearms laws are total bullshit and aimed purely at disarming AS MANY Australians as possible, whilst making it as difficult and inconvienient as possible for Australians to own guns. It's reached the point where it's certainly no longer about "protecting the community" and it is now easier for the average Australian to obtain an unregistered firearm than it is to do it legally. Gun ownership has been publically villified and it's not funny, John Howard was quoted as saying something along the lines of "he won't be happy untill every gun is out of the hands of every australian", and as per usual the only people that these stupid new gun laws have affected are the law abiding citizens. Despite the unsuccessfull government attempts to disarm the population and portray gun ownership as evil and criminal, the illegal gun trade is thriving. The reality is that gun owners are normal people just like you and me. Banning guns is as stupid as trying to ban liquor: It doesn't work. All it does is drive the trade underground. Sure there are some people who should definately NOT have access to firearms, but these are certainly the minority.
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03/10/2008 08:11 AM
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It's very difficult to talk to most people about it. They are already conditioned to respond before even listening to what you're saying they have already made up their mind.
"people shouldn't have guns, they are dangerous to society they should all be banned and people that want guns should be locked away."

Now all the guns are out of the hands of the people, but now the criminals have more guns than ever.
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03/10/2008 08:13 AM
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Australia is the Illuminati's Jewel. It's their model pet project.
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03/10/2008 08:27 AM
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Australia is the Illuminati's Jewel. It's their model pet project.
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Yep, it sure is. Guns were once as easy to obtain as a drivers licence. But since the Port Arthur psyop bullshit and the untold lies we were expected to swallow, (in fact most dumb ass aussies did swallow it without bothering to address a ton of obvious discrepancies according to the idiot media clown show) guns are extremely difficult to obtain legally. And even if you do get one legally, the bullshit rules you have to follow make getting one legally offputting. If you have the right contacts though you can get any weapon on the black market. Australia and it's idiotic society are a fucking joke.
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03/10/2008 07:38 PM
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bump
it's a shame..
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03/10/2008 08:42 PM
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Australia is the Illuminati's Jewel. It's their model pet project.


Yep, it sure is. Guns were once as easy to obtain as a drivers licence. But since the Port Arthur psyop bullshit and the untold lies we were expected to swallow, (in fact most dumb ass aussies did swallow it without bothering to address a ton of obvious discrepancies according to the idiot media clown show) guns are extremely difficult to obtain legally. And even if you do get one legally, the bullshit rules you have to follow make getting one legally offputting. If you have the right contacts though you can get any weapon on the black market. Australia and it's idiotic society are a fucking joke.
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the aussies have so many pussy idiotic polly ticians, cramming bad laws down their throat...

we aint gonna let it happen here...
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03/10/2008 09:02 PM
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Which is really ironic if you look 5 years into the future and see what's happening.





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