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July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August

 
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July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.




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Thanks for this information. Will it be WW 111?
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Pluto three times in one year ,,is that normal
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So for someone who knows nothing about astrology, what does this mean?
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Re: July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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SUPER PERIGEE FULL MOON THE NEXT DAY. MEGA EARTHQUAKE BETWEEN
THE 10TH AND THE 15TH! ON HI OR LOW TIDE! 7 MIN. PROB. AN 8-UH
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Re: July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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HOW LONG DOES THE 2ND RETURN LAST IF IT GOES BACK ON DEC. 29TH

FOR UH THIRD RETURN?
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On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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SUPER PERIGEE FULL MOON THE NEXT DAY. MEGA EARTHQUAKE BETWEEN
THE 10TH AND THE 15TH! ON HI OR LOW TIDE! 7 MIN. PROB. AN 8-UH
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Thanks for this information. Will it be WW 111?
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It looks like the February return was the unofficial start of what the elite want to be WW3, though my hope is that it is world wide revolution against our oppressors, not invading other countries.

It could be that Biden resigns, dies, or something significant happens to remove him from office. Uranus shakes things up. It is conjunct the astral North Node, not the USA natal North Node (my bad), but the Uranus/North Node conjunction will be conjunct the USA planet Vesta. Vesta rules Divine feminine/gender politics. Conjunct Uranus, the Uranus transit might have something to do with gender politics (though I personally hope it means Big Mike will be exposed).
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Pluto three times in one year ,,is that normal
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Pluto retrogrades once a year for five months. Pluto retrograde 2022 began on April 29 at 28° Capricorn and ends on October 8 at 26° Capricorn. The US Pluto is 27 degrees Capricorn, so the retrograde moves it one degree beyond Pluto. As it moves forward, it will touch the USA Pluto, forming the conjunction.

When Pluto goes into retrograde in 2023, it again moves back into Capricorn. Sometime toward the end of September 2023 (?) (EDIT - October 11, 2023), Pluto will again conjunct the US natal Pluto.

Transiting Pluto retrograde is a time of reflection about power and control issues. Normally it doesn't create much energy, but coupled withe USA Pluto return, it looks like some form of revolution/revolt will take place, or society will begin to look at ways to collectively reject the current power structure.

The US natal Pluto is conjunct the US natal moon, so all of these energies are amplified. Transiting Pluto conjunct the natal moon brings major life changing experiences deeply felt at the emotional level, bringing up intense psychological experiences. It often strip our emotional security blanket, forcing a change in home and family. Combined with the Pluto return, the US chart clearly shows the collapse of US society as we know it and a shell-shocked population that loses its emotional (and physical) security.

Pluto can be ruthless, creating an effect whereby you (or in this case the US) experience others trying to overpower you or manipulate you or you try to over power and manipulate others.

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Re: July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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HOW LONG DOES THE 2ND RETURN LAST IF IT GOES BACK ON DEC. 29TH

FOR UH THIRD RETURN?
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Holy shit it does a final retrograde conjunct on my birthday...

Interesting
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NOT RETRO FOR THE ELECTIONS BUT, RETRO FOR NEW YEARS! INTERESTING.
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Good stuff right here
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My USA natal chart is based on July 2, 1776, 4:15 p.m.

July 4 was simply ceremony, but they finalized the draft of the Declaration of Independence on July 2nd and wrote it on parchment on July 3rd.

The time is important because it determines the Ascendant, which is the energies projected. This timing puts the US Ascendant on the cusp of Sagittarius (outgoing, don't call me-I'll call you, fire energy). It places the US Sun in the Solar 8th house of taxes, inheritance and other people's money. To me, that makes sense given the document they signed rebelling against authority. It puts Venus at 0 degrees Cancer on the cusp of the 8th house but still technically the 7th house, along with Mars, Uranus and the Part of Fortune in the 7th house of contracts and unions as well.

I selected 4:15 because it was the end of the day, and about the time the Mason Jars would have reached a conclusion and made a blood pact. It aligns the houses to historical accuracy based on the actions of the country over 250 years.

Using this chart, that makes the natal US Pluto and Moon conjunct. It also means the USA Progressed Lunar Return (every 27.5 years) is conjunct Pluto and the Moon sometime in the first week of August 2022. (Vedic astrology shows major astrological events July 31/August 1 2022, fwiw.)

In the progressed chart based on 7/2/1776, the progressed moon conjuncts the USA natal Moon and Pluto in the 2nd house of money during the first week of August 2022.

The Progressed Moon in Capricorn can turn visions into reality. It also creates an emotional state of being overwhelmed with worry about the future. The focus is stability, but often driven by anxiety or fear of the future.

The Progressed Moon in the 2nd consolidating financial security. This period reveals how capable you are in earning and spending money, and what is its true value and purpose.

The progressed Moon conjunct Pluto creates a need to purge the emotions that have bound one to a "fated" situation.

It doesn't mean there will be a revolution or market collapse on this day, but there are likely events that will eventually be seen as the triggers for these changes.

(Edited becasue I used wrong USA chart.)

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Re: July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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SUPER PERIGEE FULL MOON THE NEXT DAY. MEGA EARTHQUAKE BETWEEN
THE 10TH AND THE 15TH! ON HI OR LOW TIDE! 7 MIN. PROB. AN 8-UH
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Thank you for posting that.

There s a guy named Joseph Tittel on YT who has scary, accurate predictions. (I think he GLPs.) I seem to recall mega earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as part of the July forecast.
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So for someone who knows nothing about astrology, what does this mean?
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Well Pluto is the Roman God of Death.
Maybe this means the death of the US.
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Some how saying Big Mike and Uranus in the same quote turns my stomach.
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Thanks for this information. Will it be WW 111?
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It looks like the February return was the unofficial start of what the elite want to be WW3, though my hope is that it is world wide revolution against our oppressors, not invading other countries.

It could be that Biden resigns, dies, or something significant happens to remove him from office. Uranus shakes things up. It is conjunct the astral North Node, not the USA natal North Node (my bad), but the Uranus/North Node conjunction will be conjunct the USA planet Vesta. Vesta rules Divine feminine/gender politics. Conjunct Uranus, the Uranus transit might have something to do with gender politics (though I personally hope it means Big Mike will be exposed).
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Because of the unusual 222 numbers, I'm looking for Kamal Harris to become President.

Simple Gematria:

President Xi Jinping = 222 (China)
Premier Su Tseng-chang = 222 (Taiwan)

President Isaac Herzog = 222 (Israel)
President Ebrahim Raisi = 222 (Iran)

President Kamala Harris = 222 (USA)


P.S. The 222 prophecy just came true for Marine Le Pen. I thought it was for President of France, but it turns out she did become President of something.

Assumed office 28 June 2022:

President Marine Le Pen = 222 (President of the National Rally group in the National Assembly in France)
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I write legal / law drafts all the time... but never send them.

Drafts have no standing in law... only the final document does.



The actual Declaration was signed in the "wee hours" of the morning on July 4th.

I have used 2:15AM on July 4th, 1776, with much success.

In fact, i do a yearly review of the USA's chart on or about New Years Day to get an idea of the coming year.

On New Years Day 2001, I predicted a terrorist attack on the U.S. for the 2nd week in September to a student of mine.

Suffice it to say she called me that morning at work, all excited, and reminded me what i had said 9 months earlier (as i had long since forgotten)

Check out 2:15AM OP!

Uranus on the ascendant in Gemini... Sun in Cancer in the second, and more...


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I heard this on the Jeff Kuhner show this morning. Pluto is thepunisher right?
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With Pluto close to Uranus the US is fucked.
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Pluto is all about upheaval and transformation. Revealing of secrets. New spiritual ways developing.
Uranus is about electricity, vibration, brotherhood, and new ways of doing things.
The north node is where you are headed.
The US Pluto return is about transformation of your country and setting a new course for the next 200+ years. The last time it was at these degrees of Capricorn was during the American Revolution. This will include a digital component because Uranus is the natural leader of Aquarius which is overseeing this crypto digital revolution.
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On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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HOW LONG DOES THE 2ND RETURN LAST IF IT GOES BACK ON DEC. 29TH

FOR UH THIRD RETURN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46661189


Holy shit it does a final retrograde conjunct on my birthday...

Interesting
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Same
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So for someone who knows nothing about astrology, what does this mean?
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Pluto's "return" typically means the death of empires and/or war.

I'm banking on both.
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I checked, and the Russian tanks actually did roll into Ukraine on February 22, 2022.

"On 22 February, video footage shot in the early morning showed Russian armed forces and tanks moving in the Donbas region.[140] The Federation Council authorised the use of military force outside Russia.[141] Zelenskyy called up army reservists;[142] and Ukraine's parliament proclaimed a 30-day national state of emergency.[143][144] Russia evacuated its embassy from Kyiv.[145] DDoS attacks widely attributed to Russian-backed hackers[146][147] hit the websites of the Ukrainian parliament and executive branch, and many bank websites also.[148] Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) denied reports of Chinese military espionage on the eve of the invasion, including on nuclear infrastructure." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


I always remember the July 12 date, because two week before that date in 2006, the start of the Israel-Lebanon War, I had a vision of the Islamic Antichrist.

I've had three visions, the guy behind the 9/11 financial crash, who looked Russian to me, the Islamic Antichrist, and the U.S. President during the nuclear battle of WWIII.

I had the 9/11 vision about 2 months before 9/11, and I warned my folks to get their money out of the stock market. I first picked up on 9/11 around 1997.


If the 222 prophecies do come true, there'll be war between the Chinese and Taiwan Presidents, and the Presidents of Israel and Iran.

Snowden is in the 222 prophecies, as is Trump, but not as President.
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third return ww3
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I checked, and the Russian tanks actually did roll into Ukraine on February 22, 2022.

"On 22 February, video footage shot in the early morning showed Russian armed forces and tanks moving in the Donbas region.[140] The Federation Council authorised the use of military force outside Russia.[141] Zelenskyy called up army reservists;[142] and Ukraine's parliament proclaimed a 30-day national state of emergency.[143][144] Russia evacuated its embassy from Kyiv.[145] DDoS attacks widely attributed to Russian-backed hackers[146][147] hit the websites of the Ukrainian parliament and executive branch, and many bank websites also.[148] Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) denied reports of Chinese military espionage on the eve of the invasion, including on nuclear infrastructure." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


I always remember the July 12 date, because two week before that date in 2006, the start of the Israel-Lebanon War, I had a vision of the Islamic Antichrist.

I've had three visions, the guy behind the 9/11 financial crash, who looked Russian to me, the Islamic Antichrist, and the U.S. President during the nuclear battle of WWIII.

I had the 9/11 vision about 2 months before 9/11, and I warned my folks to get their money out of the stock market. I first picked up on 9/11 around 1997.


If the 222 prophecies do come true, there'll be war between the Chinese and Taiwan Presidents, and the Presidents of Israel and Iran.

Snowden is in the 222 prophecies, as is Trump, but not as President.
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P.S. The "555" in my current User ID number means "major change."

My User ID number is different each time I connect up to the internet.

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I checked, and the Russian tanks actually did roll into Ukraine on February 22, 2022.

"On 22 February, video footage shot in the early morning showed Russian armed forces and tanks moving in the Donbas region.[140] The Federation Council authorised the use of military force outside Russia.[141] Zelenskyy called up army reservists;[142] and Ukraine's parliament proclaimed a 30-day national state of emergency.[143][144] Russia evacuated its embassy from Kyiv.[145] DDoS attacks widely attributed to Russian-backed hackers[146][147] hit the websites of the Ukrainian parliament and executive branch, and many bank websites also.[148] Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) denied reports of Chinese military espionage on the eve of the invasion, including on nuclear infrastructure." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


I always remember the July 12 date, because two week before that date in 2006, the start of the Israel-Lebanon War, I had a vision of the Islamic Antichrist.

I've had three visions, the guy behind the 9/11 financial crash, who looked Russian to me, the Islamic Antichrist, and the U.S. President during the nuclear battle of WWIII.

I had the 9/11 vision about 2 months before 9/11, and I warned my folks to get their money out of the stock market. I first picked up on 9/11 around 1997.


If the 222 prophecies do come true, there'll be war between the Chinese and Taiwan Presidents, and the Presidents of Israel and Iran.

Snowden is in the 222 prophecies, as is Trump, but not as President.
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P.S. The "555" in my current User ID number means "major change."

My User ID number is different each time I connect up to the internet.

hf
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This was so strange that I had to log back on to mention it.

As I was writing the above post I got a notice on my phone about a movie I had ordered call, "The Call Me Trinity."

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Re: July 12: Pluto goes retrograde, conjuncts USA natal Pluto for a second return. P11 Update for August
On July 12, Pluto moves back to conjunct the US, creating a second Pluto return (the first was in February).

Uranus conjuncts the North Node (great change, revolution, war) while 8th house (debt. the economy) planets are triggered.

On December 29th, Pluto will again retrograde to conjunct the US natal Pluto for a third return.



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SUPER PERIGEE FULL MOON THE NEXT DAY. MEGA EARTHQUAKE BETWEEN
THE 10TH AND THE 15TH! ON HI OR LOW TIDE! 7 MIN. PROB. AN 8-UH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46661189


Thank you for posting that.

There s a guy named Joseph Tittel on YT who has scary, accurate predictions. (I think he GLPs.) I seem to recall mega earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as part of the July forecast.
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oh...UH, IM MOSTLY WRONG.....MOSTLY..MOST-LY...UH CAPMAN.
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NOT RETRO FOR THE ELECTIONS BUT, RETRO FOR NEW YEARS! INTERESTING.
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